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LiveRamp Holdings, Inc. (RAMP)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 7, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to the Acxiom Fiscal 2017 Second Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mrs. Lauren Dillard, Senior Director of Investor Relations.

Lauren Dillard

Analyst

Thank you, Abigail. Good afternoon and welcome. Thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal 2016 second quarter results. With me today are Scott Howe, our CEO; Warren Jenson, our CFO; and Travis May, the President and General Manager of our Connectivity Business. Today’s press release and this call may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a detailed description of these risks, please read the Risk Factors sections of our public filings and the press release. Acxiom undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to any of our forward-looking statements. A copy of our press release and financial schedules, including any reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures is available at acxiom.com. Also during the call today, we will be referring to slide-deck posted on our Web site. At this time, I will turn the call over to Scott Howe.

Scott Howe

Analyst

Thank you, Lauren. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. I'm pleased to report another solid quarter highlighted by three key themes; first, strong financial results, driven by continued top-line momentum; second, exciting product innovations, including the recent launch of LiveRamp IdentityLink; and finally, solid execution against our key growth initiatives. I like our business rhythm right now. Each of our businesses is performing well, but has room for improvement. Each of them understands their risks and opportunities, and each is focused on better execution day-by-day. Notably, each business also has an opportunity to expand the breadth of how clients are using their products and services. LiveRamp is building out new and different use-cases, and expanding its identity resolution services to new market segments. Audience Solutions continues to broaden the coverage of publishers and platforms that are ingesting Acxiom data to power targeted marketing. And Marketing Services is focused on adding two its client roaster and expanding the ways in which marketers engage with Acxiom. I will now review each of our businesses in more detail, beginning with connectivity. Connectivity had an impressive quarter, and our results continue to demonstrate the network effects we are experiencing. Despite headwinds from the first-party GMS transition, total revenue grew 49% and LiveRamp closed another strong bookings quarter. If you turn to slide three, I will update you on our key metrics for Q2. We signed dozens of connectivity deals in the second quarter, and added more than 40 new direct customers. In total, our direct customer count grew to roughly 345. We generated approximately $33 million in revenue during the quarter, up 49% compared to prior year. And, we exited Q2 with a revenue run-rate of approximately $135 million, up from $120 million at the end of Q1 and up 50% year-over-year.…

Travis May

Analyst

Thanks, Scott, and good afternoon everyone. I'm excited to talk to you today about our launch of IdentityLink. Simply put, our launch of IdentityLink is the biggest that we've made since we founded the LiveRamp business, and is best to power for the future of marketing. Marketing today is exceptionally fragmented, and a typical retail customer journey has been driven by specific catalog visit the Web site for the retailer, see a search ad, see a mobile ad, a Facebook ad, and a programmatic display ad, see a TV ad, and finally visit the store and purchase the product. Even within digital, the number of marketing applications have exploded from just over 2,050 platforms in 2011 to over 3,500 platforms in 2016. This explosion of data, channels and mediums, has resulted in increasing complexity and decreasing consistency in the customer experience. IdentityLink solves for this complexity. It enables our clients to resolve the hundreds of different identifiers for consumers used across all these touch-points to a real person in priority case way, and it activates that understanding across the marketing ecosystem. If you’ll turn to next slide, this is a great example of what our market specific clients already leveraging the capabilities of IdentityLink. In this example, our client first send PRM data to LiveRamp. We mask that data to IdentityLink and on-board it to several digital marketing platforms that the client works with, its DSP, its GMP, as well as premium publishers like Pinterest and Snapchat. Post campaign impressive data is collected by DoubleClick and Adobe and sent to LiveRamp. Within that, the impression logs to IdentityLink and send the data back to other clients’ in-house analytics team. At the same time, Adobe is also sending data back to LiveRamp and that data is heading back to IdentityLink and…

Warren Jenson

Analyst

Great, and thanks Travis, and good afternoon everyone. In my portion of the call today, I'd like to first run through the quarter, then talk about each of our segments, and finally provide an update on our full-year outlook. A few highlights from the quarter. First, this was another strong quarter for the Company, and the trend-line continues to move in the right direction. Revenue was up 5% as reported and up 11% adjusted for items. Excluding items, total revenues increased 5% or more in six of the last nine quarters, and also in each of the last four. I'm also pleased to share that in the quarter revenue increased in each of our segments. Our adjusted gross margin has improved in each of the last nine quarters, and was up more than 300 basis-points in Q2. And in nine of the last 10 quarters, our adjusted EBITDA was up on average double digits year-over-year. Both Connectivity and Audience Solutions continue to demonstrate the power of their respective models. Connectivity revenue was up 49% and LiveRamp products revenue was up 68%. Audience Solutions revenue grew 9% in total and digital data revenue was up over 100% again this quarter. Our presence in the ecosystem also continues to expand. Today, our data products are available at over 130 digital destinations, up from 50 a year ago. And LiveRamp's network is now well in excess of 400 integration partners. International, International had another nice quarter. In fact excluding items, revenue increased 17%, driven by strong double-digit growth in Europe, and specifically in the UK and Germany. In summary, more work ahead, but this quarter marks another strong data point in the formation of a meaningful trend. Now, I'll discuss our second quarter results in more detail, starting with slide four. Our summary…

Operator

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Kip Paulson with Canton Fitzgerald. Your line is open.

Kip Paulson

Analyst

First, Audience Solutions revenue continued to accelerate the quarter, now positive 8.9% growth. Any update on your $50 million digital revenue target for fiscal ’17? And then second, the Audience Solutions gross margins actually picked-up materially in the quarter, already up to 61% versus 60% to 65%, I believe you’re targeting for the segment. Is long-term gross margin target now closer to connectivity 70%? Thank you.

Warren Jenson

Analyst

I’d be happy. And then Scott may want to jump-in and provide some color, and I’ll bounce around each of your questions. Our long-term goal remains gross margins in the 60% to 65%. I think it's important that we establish a framework of being able to demonstrate that before we want to think about raising our long-term guidance. Digital revenue, pretty much right on track, I mean we don’t intend to give that as a routine guidance measure. But we’re right in that for the year.

Scott Howe

Analyst

Yes. And then in terms of just overall revenue tracking, I mean, hats-off to Rick Ervin and his entire team. I mean, they've done a really nice job of transforming that business. And they've done it in a couple of ways. One is by freshening the data sets such that even our existing legacy manufactured data has greater appeal, but more importantly by tapping into new distribution channels. And so the digital data growth represents one aspect of that. We're not going to be satisfied until if you were to look at say the media metrics top 100 publishers, we want every single online publisher, every single cable provider, every single platform to have APIs into our data, such that you can purchase those audiences or purchase that media and then audience basis using data as opposed to just on a broadcast basis. That's really been the main focus of that business over the last year, and we expect that continuing that focus can unlock future growth for us as well.

Kip Paulson

Analyst

And then just one more, if I could, as far as connections per customers, I didn’t hear that in the prepared remarks this time around. But how many were there, and what was the growth rate year-on-year? Thanks a lot guys, and congrats on the quarter.

Scott Howe

Analyst

Yes, so let me just make sure I have the right number. So this is connections per customer. So for LiveRamp customers, I think what I had said last quarter, and correct me if I'm wrong here. A year ago, we were at about 1.2 average connections and that was across, say the 100 direct advertisers that we had greatest line of sight to, and those are the direct advertisers through LiveRamp. And typically what was happening there is with someone activating Facebook with their typical first-use case. Now, the latest number that we've pulled, and so this might be a couple of months old here, is a little bit north of eight. And what's good about that number is the new activations are still just doing one or two. And so what it suggests is that without a whole lot of push, because we haven’t really been accelerating, hiring aggressively behind our clients service business or really making this a point of emphasis. Almost organically, folks have decided that their targeting efforts work and then they've expanded. And so, not on a big bully kind of grown up in technology businesses and seen the classic S-curve all my life. And so going from one to eight is fantastic, but we think overtime, there is even greater jump to be made, we think on average a Fortune 1000 advertiser has 300 to 500 different partners when you add-up all their different cable providers, their online publishers, their email programs, their site personalization and there is the call centers. And so what that would suggest is we are still in the very early stages of expanding share of wallet with our clients. So, we think that gives us some room for growth there overtime.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dan Salmon with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Dan Salmon

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

One for Travis and then one for Scott. Travis it sounds like product has been very much in focus for you lately as you get IdentityLink rolled out and there is a number of stages to go still for that. But as you roll at the top of the Company, I am not so sure you’re keeping a close eye on LiveRamp’s international roll-out as well. Scott mentioned a couple of new wins in the Western Europe along the way. But just if you could give us a quick update on how you see the next 12 months progressing as you begin to move, expand the geographic footprint of your business? And then for Scott, you’ve always maintained that return of capital to shareholders as Warren just reiterated is important. But always willing to remain opportunistic in M&A versus three months ago, and any change, just -- and what I’m trying to get at is, as macro conditions at all I am sure tomorrow will sell the lot of macro or at least one element of macro uncertainty. But just curious on how you feel that the macro these days and your general uses of capital?

Scott Howe

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

I’ll start and answer the second question, and then give Travis a chance. And just warn him that Dan is very clearly asking you to give guidance for next year. So talk about that in broad brush terms, otherwise Warren will hit you under the table. So in terms of M&A, Dan, we’re always looking. And as I’ve always said, we’re not going to comment on, specifically, what we’re doing, either from an acquisition perspective or from a portfolio management perspective. Other than to say that if there are tires to be kicked, we will kick them. That said, I will also say that when we see an opportunity that makes sense for our shareholders, and make sense to get to kind of the strategic end-game, we’ll be very aggressive. And the one example of that that you’ve seen in the last five years with us was LiveRamp. And so one of the things as we think about the connectivity business and its growth trajectory, if we saw similar opportunities where we could rapidly close the product gap, extend our coverage through a new set of use cases, or expanding our coverage internationally, those would be opportunities that would in intriguing for us.

Travis May

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

And then adding in for international, the way I think about it is we’re following our key customers and our key partners into the markets that they care about. We’re going to keep investing aggressively to build-out the match rates and give them a product that works in those markets.

Warren Jenson

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

And then I would just add on top up what Travis said, internationally. We have just an incredibly strong relationship with the folks at LiveRamp. We have people come internationally, spend time here, train, learn the technology. And then number two, between Travis [indiscernible] and others is we’re really porting our technology over the course of this year and next that we can scale much more rapidly internationally as we move going forward.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brett Huff with Stephens. Your line is open.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open.

One question each on LiveRamp or Connectivity and then one on Audience Solutions. On LiveRamp and Connectivity, and I don’t know if this is one for you Travis or not. But it seems like the measure of the day is always match rates, and what they are and what those mean. What I found is that match rates definition vary a lot, can you tell us a little bit about how you guys think about it, how you think you fair? And then maybe give us a little insight into our match rates, probabilistic or deterministic, and do you guys win and won, do you have more depth than one versus the other?

Scott Howe

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open.

Sure. So we’re totally focused deterministic, which is different than a lot of the other match rates you might hear out there. We look at a number of different match rates, and ultimately we care about the number of people that we can reach any channel. We think about, from an e-mail address or from a name and address; how many devices can you reach, how many mobile devices can you reach, how many users can you reach, in different walk gardens, so there are end up being lots of different metrics based on what type of data the customer has and where the customers wants to be able to address their the audience. In each of those areas, I think we have a pretty wide gap between us and then Acxiom’s competitors. And we’re pretty comfortable with the investments we’ve been making, and we’ll continue to make aggressive investments and making sure that we have the best match rates in the industry.

Warren Jenson

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open.

Just to rip-off that real quickly, if I might. For those of you on the call, if you haven’t read Forster’s report, it was released two weeks ago on the identity resolution. I really think it’s must reading, because it talks about the concept of match rates probabilistic versus deterministic, and the factor for building great identity resolution. It mentions us but it mentions other companies in the space as well. And it’s really good background education. The second thing I would say is while there are some nuanced views about whether deterministic or probabilistic are better, I mean there are those would say probabilistic is just fine. And I would tell you that we generally disagree with that. And we think deterministic is far superior for a couple of reasons; number one is it generate a much better customer experience. And so the example I sometimes give, because I still look from a client who operates a theme park, if he would talk about bringing their daughter to the theme park and through the RFID reader, someone could say, hey Lauren, which is my daughter’s name, your favorite princesses is just down the street, and it's sleeping beauty and don’t you want to go talk to her. And for my daughter, that would make an incredible impact. And I would pay you almost any amount of money to give her that customer experience. However, if they greeted her at the theme park and said, hello Sally, your favorite princess, Jasmine, is down the street. It would destroy her experience. And so, you can imagine if you get it wrong, it can have a lasting brand impact on consumers. In addition, I can say with fair certainty based on the conversations I have about in the regulatory space that regardless of who wins the election tomorrow, heightened regulations are in our future for data. And if you can get HIPAA or COPPA wrong, because of bad match rates, the damages start 2,500 bucks and up in a instance. And so that adds up really, really quickly and it is super-important that if you want to stay within the law, you better know exactly how you’re matching, which I think plays to all those strength we built over the last 40 years.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open.

That's helpful, and then second question was on Audience Solutions. There is a lot of data providers out there, I think one of the benefits you guys have is you kind of resolved it down using your various tools to one person better than others. But is there anything else about your data that as you distributed to more people that's going to keep it more unique than the other competitors out there? I mean there are some really good well funded smart competitors out there. How do you keep differentiating yourself? Thank you.

Warren Jenson

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open.

Yes, it's a great question Brett. And I think you’re going to see a bifurcation. And the good news is that we’re going to win on both of these legs of the three. And so on the one hand, I think you will see more commoditization of classic manufactured data, because as the Internet of Things comes online and more elements are available, that means more substitutes for traditional data-sets are available as well. And so to the extent that you could offer in the form of a data-store, or one shop data-store, anything that a client would ever want, so they can create their own data models, the raw data sources. And instead of building it for them, allow them to build it, we can take a small fee on that. And so, increasingly, we don’t want to just be manufactured data, we want to be the world's source for all data. And we're doing that by connecting all these data suppliers into our pipes, that's LiveRamp’s tasks. And so we think we will win their overtime. But then on the other end of the spectrum, there are increasingly an array of customers that are saying we have to be smart about how we cook our data, and we don’t have those skill sets internally to be build the next credit model, to build the next insurance model, to build the next marketing model. And so, we need better curation on top of the overwhelming array of data that's available out there. And so Rick and his team at Audience Solutions are really focused on building that curation layer and all by the way, because he is building that on top of a AbiliTec and an info based ID, it means that he can combine multiple data-sets together and build more enduring models across channels than potentially other companies can. So once again, a commoditization where we think we can play and then also an explosion in curation where we think we can play.

Operator

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

A question for you on LiveRamp, and Fast Lane, I know that a couple of years ago you used to take two to three weeks to do the on-boarding. A year ago, maybe a five to seven days, a few months ago it's probably one to three days, and now you've gotten it down to an hour. And I wanted to ask what does this mean in terms of revenue with existing customers and also new use cases?

Travis May

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

I think it allows a number of new use cases where the data can flow more in a cycle. So immediately measurement data in store can be used to optimize the campaign that can very quickly change the results and change the actual group that’s been targeted. And then a new campaign to be built based on the campaign -- based on the target audience that should be reached. So we think that by getting it closer and closer real-time, we’ll able to enable a real-time optimization of the campaign itself. And ultimately the campaigns become much more targeted.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

And then a question for us on connectivity margins, they came in stronger than our expectations. And despite the investments that you’re making in IdentityLink, just wanted to ask what was happening there, and to get some thoughts in terms of where we should think those margins, where we would expect those margins to be for the rest of the year?

Scott Howe

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

A couple of things, Bill, I would say, headline number one is, I think we’re living out to what we said we would do, which is just we’re investing. But yes, it's not going deep into the last category where we do that. So, we’ve got a lot of initiatives going on at LiveRamp and in connectivity around our match rates, our mobile match pool, around scaling, around international investments. So we are investing. I think we’re going to be slightly ahead of breakeven for the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Warren Jenson for closing remarks.

Warren Jenson

Analyst

Great. Well, thank you everybody. And Travis, it's great to having you on the call today. One thing that I would iterate that Scott didn’t mentioned. If you haven’t gone to LiveRamp and walk-through the demo of IdentityLink, you should read the first two reports, and go do that, it’s a great education. I think you will see that with literally every quarter and iteration of our model that, just as Travis said, our opportunity just gets larger. Thank you all for joining us. And we look forward to talking to you in the next couple of days. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.