Evan Russo
Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open
Yes. Hey, Brennan, good morning. Yes, look, as we said, the non-comp came in about $130 million in Q4. We continue to focus on maintaining the cost discipline as we talked about throughout the year. This year, non-comp increases reflected a couple of things. One is the continued rolling in of our technology investments, as well as some additional marketing and business development as we started ramping up more marketing in the middle of this year. It was offset, and as we mentioned, by a couple of other items, most notably, lower pension costs in this year versus last year. Last year, Q4, we had some higher pension costs that got accrued in that quarter. And this year, we had less pension costs that accrued. So I guess that's one component. But I'd say it's a combination of the cost discipline that we've been working through throughout the year. But on an ongoing basis, I think we expect to remain at elevated levels for the next few quarters, as we've mentioned, as we continue to roll in our technology projects, we expand hiring and continue to grow our real estate, our footprint or grow our real estate footprint for the expansion as we invest in the future. I think, look, Brennan, it's always important to remember our spending in our non-comp, the way we think about it is, it’s very much strategic spending. We're creating a stronger platform, a stronger more vibrant platform to accelerate growth. So I think this quarter was a good quarter. We got a couple of components in there that were helpful. But I think it's sort of in-line with the way we've been managing costs throughout the year.