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Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 2, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Green Plains Inc. and Green Plains Partners Second Quarter 2022 Conference Call. Following the company's prepared remarks, instructions will be provided for Q&A. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I will now turn the call over to your host, Phil Boggs, Executive Vice President, Investor Relations. Mr. Boggs, please go ahead.

Phil Boggs

Management

Thank you, and welcome to Green Plains Inc. and Green Plains Partners second quarter earnings call. Participants on today's call are Todd Becker, President and Chief Executive Officer; Patrich Simpkins, Chief Financial Officer; and Leslie van der Meulen, EVP Product Marketing and Innovation. There is a slide presentation available, and you can find it on the Investor page under the Events and Presentations link on both corporate websites. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements, which are predictions, projections or other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could materially differ, because of factors discussed in today's press releases and the comments made during this conference call and in the Risk Factors section of our Form 10-K, Form 10-Q and other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Todd Becker.

Todd Becker

Management

Thanks, Phil, and good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today. Our second quarter financial and operating results further positioned the company to succeed in our transformation as we start to gain volumetric critical mass in the last few quarters of 2022, heading into 2023, where we believe we will hit critical inflection points that are proof we are executing on all phases of our plan that we've laid out to you and begin to demonstrate what is possible with our modernized and upgraded platform. Years of planning and execution on our modernization plan have enabled us to run at 97% of operating capacity in the quarter, the highest since Q4 2013 and we believe we could still go higher as we continue to optimize the plants that recently started back up in quarters where we don't have turnaround scheduled. During the second quarter, we achieved EBITDA above our indications on the prior call. Overall, EBITDA was $84.4 million, including $27.7 million of COVID relief from the USDA. Even without the payment, our EBITDA from operations was over $56 million as margins remained strong and the team executed well to deliver the results we reported this morning. Our financial results also benefited from our natural gas hedging strategy which we had been mentioning on the calls since late last year. On paper, consolidated margins continue to be positive into the third and fourth quarter with risk mainly from the physical corn markets historically high basis. Although, we have seen some signs of weakness in some of the geographic areas where we operate, but we are closely watching that and the conditions of the U.S. corn crop. Driving demand remains volatile and could impact overall usage in the last half of the year, but margins have remained steady through…

Patrich Simpkins

Management

Thank you, Todd, and good morning, everyone. Green Plains consolidated revenues for the second quarter were just over $1 billion, $288 million higher than the same period a year ago, driven by higher prices for ethanol, distillers grains, corn oil combined with significantly higher run rates. Our plant utilization rate improved year-over-year to 96% run rate during the second quarter, comparing favorably to the 79.9% run rate reported in the same period last year. The completion of our modernization program and a focus on continued production improvement reduced fixed cost absorption and will help improve margins long-term. For the quarter, we reported net income attributable to Green Plains of $46.4 million or $0.73 per diluted share, compared to $9.7 million for the same period in 2021. EBITDA for the quarter was $84.4 million, inclusive of the USDA COVID payment of $27.7 million, compared to $50.9 million for the same period last year. For the quarter, higher production run rates, improved corn oil yields and contribution from protein sales allowed the company to exceed prior year same period performance, which included optimization and mark-to-market gains. For the period, we realized a $0.28 per gallon consolidated crush, significantly higher than the first quarter, but lower than the prior year. Our ag and energy segment also came in higher versus 2021, due to improvements in our merchant activities, as well as higher realized margins in our grain handling business. For the quarter, our SG&A costs for all segments was $30.1 million, compared to $23.4 million in Q2 of 2021. The increase of approximately $6.7 million is driven by a number of factors with the majority coming from increased personnel costs, driven by higher headcount and wage pressures along with higher professional fees in support of our transformation. We expect SG&A to remain higher…

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. Thanks, Patrich. Okay, so let's get into it again this quarter. Our progress since we began our transformation has been remarkable, but in some ways, we are only getting started as we believe what we are doing with our company is in the early innings of what is truly possible. Our plant utilization levels and corn oil yields are hitting new highs. This is important, as we have said many times, our modernization of the Gen 1 platform was in preparation for our technology transformation in order for the Gen 2 technology platform to run every single day. The financial transformation to recurring, predictable, growing and non-volatile cash flows is predicated and the total production unit running well, operating safely and protecting our team members at the same time. Despite, gasoline usage being depressed by high prices at the pump, we have seen ethanol blending remained strong, and at time, some of the highest levels ever as a percentage of the gallon. We are still the most affordable clean octane molecule on the planet and having the ability to sell E15 year round for the fourth straight summer. With potential growth and state and national low carbon fuel standards, we will continue -- we believe this will continue to provide tailwinds to the Gen 1 business. It looks like Congress might be on track to pass the clean energy bill that has potential to be positive for many aspects of what we do at Green Plains. As proposed, the legislation will extend the dollar per gallon biodiesel tax credit for two more years, which impacts positively our low carbon renewable corn oil, create a clean fuel production credit starting in 2025 for all renewable fuels depending on greenhouse gas emission levels, create a new tax credit for sustainable aviation…

Operator

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Jordan Levy with Truist.

Jordan Levy

Analyst

Good morning, all. Can you hear me?

Todd Becker

Management

We can hear you. Thanks, Jordan.

Jordan Levy

Analyst

Clearly, nice, clean quarter you all put up, both from the higher crush rather than just operationally. It looks like it was a really clean quarter. I wonder if we compare this to 2Q '21 where we saw kind of a similar margin environment. Can you maybe walk us through how you're thinking about GPRE today compared to a year ago, both operationally and from a financial performance perspective? And what I'm getting at here is, I know you all don't breakout High Pro and the other segments just yet, but what are sort of the parameters we should be looking at to track that all the work you all are doing and have done and continue to do in the transformation or starting to flow through to the results there?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. I'll talk a little about and let Patrich talk more specifically, but Q2 last year included some one-timers from optimization and mark-to-market. This was a much cleaner quarter, just kind of shows the capability of our system, higher operational run rate, better contributions from corn oil, better contributions from protein and all of our initiatives that are taking place. So I think when you look at it, it's really -- we don't really compare those two very well. I think what you're seeing is the future of our company. This quarter versus last year at the same time you saw a lot of noise that was still happening within our business. I think our ability to increase the capabilities of the plants that we have, even back then some of those plans weren't even online or they were online at a very low operating rates. So I think really where we're at today going forward is that what we had said is we got to have a really strong Generation 1 platform so that Generation 2 can be built and operate and succeed every single day, and that's really what we're seeing. So from the technology side, we have more deployments coming on. And we have Shenandoah and Wood River running at full quarter. And overall, I think the company is in a very different position than it was a year ago.

Jordan Levy

Analyst

That's great. Maybe as a follow-up, if we can jump back to a release few months back with the Riverence announcement. I know you mentioned in your prepared remarks the feed mill you're starting to do the work on. Maybe if you could just walk us through some of the timeline there and then the implications of that partnership both with Riverence and with other customers in the aqua space?

Todd Becker

Management

I think the key point there is they're great partner, good friends of the company. We're working together on best outcomes for their production using our products in many different ways and working together on developing those rations. And I think what we get out of that, they have some of the leading genetics, if not, the leading genetics in salmon in the world and we get to see how our product performs. And if you've been to Shenandoah, and many of you have on the call, we're actually doing trials right now on those products. So what that really did is it garnered attention globally from the industry and we've seen our related activity accelerate because of that with large players around the planet that need alternatives to what they've had in their rations before to feed whether it's a variety of aquaculture species. So I think what it did is it put us on the map to say we have unique solutions for the global aquaculture industry where they can get into plant-based corn fermented products that we've shown in the past on some of these calls and in our investor meetings. What it looks like when you feed a product like this from flesh to performance to feed conversion ratios to the ability to start to reduce their dependence on soy and the anti-soy nutritionals. And I think it was just the first step in a multi-step process, but it really put us on the map from that perspective. I think what's unique about Green Plains, and I said it in my remarks, was because we do own the technology, we can do different things with this technology that really nobody else can in the world. Whether we want to increase our yield of pounds per bushel or increase protein or additional characteristics. We can start to maneuver back and forth on all of those depending on the customer needs. We have a lot of interest in this product and aquaculture globally and especially towards the 60% protein because of that announcement.

Jordan Levy

Analyst

That's great. I'll take the rest of those -- rest of my questions offline. Thanks, guys.

Todd Becker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Adam Samuelson with Goldman Sachs.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yes, thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Todd Becker

Management

Good morning, Adam.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Good morning. So Todd, I was hoping to maybe talk a little bit about some of the actions in Congress right now. And as you look at your network today that clean fuel producers' credit in 2025, what do you think the CI score of the footprint would be or could be at that point when you factor in Summit and the sequestration there? And just to confirm, because you can't -- my understanding is you wouldn't be able to double dip between 45Q and between fuel producers' credit just the legal entities would be separated so that you could still participate in both programs as needed economically?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. I'll just talk a little bit about the CI score, and we have Devin Mogler here who is our Government Relations VP as well, I think may be comment a little bit on that as well while you asked the question. So from a CI perspective, we know the first step that we're going to do is reduce the CI because of carbon sequestration. And obviously, whether it's on a pipeline or whether it's direct inject, whether it's in other products, whether it's something like that, our CI starts to go down significantly. And then beyond that, even on some of our products as well, we're seeing opportunities around taking some of our platform and doing something called institute fermentation which reduces CI scores on a portion of that into an advanced biofuel opportunity as well. And that's happening in Gen 1 right now, which is not commonly known in the world, but the Gen 1 platform will start to produce probably across the board in many plants, some advanced biofuels as well because of how fermentation has been changed over the years. So from our standpoint, when we look at Congress and what they're talking about, obviously, the biodiesel extension is helpful to renewable corn oil. The sustainable aviation fuel, we strongly believe and have a great conviction now that corn ethanol -- ethanol-to-jet and alcohol-to-jet is going to become more of a reality I think than people are giving this industry credit for. And obviously, $85 really allows us to focus on projects that we may be -- we're on the edge of being successful too now can be very successful. Things like our Eastern plants where maybe we didn't have perfect geologic formations underneath the plant, but now you can start to thinking about piping at five or 10 miles to a better geologic formation because of the tax credit allows you to do that, and I think that's beneficial to us as well. So when we kind of get to 2025 just on the base business, a lot of our plants that are on pipelines or doing projects could be going from an average score of 65 or 70 down to an average score of somewhere between kind of 30 and 40 for this before we even get started on other opportunities like the way that we produce energy, combined heat and power is a topic. We have basically to take ingredients that we produce or maybe sell cheaply to convert that into energy. Those are all on the verge as well. So this industry is decarbonizing right in front of our eyes and it might be take a few more years, but I would say this industry is somewhere going to be somewhere between zero to 35 on average overall. Devin, you want to talk a little bit about the clean production fuel credit?

Devin Mogler

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Sure. And so as Todd mentioned, after two years, the biodiesel tax credit shifts from $1 across the board to being based on greenhouse gas reductions. And so that further advantages our DCO. So it gets the CI credit not only at the federal level for being low CI waste oil as well as a California or Canada or Washington State Oregon credit as well. So believe there's a lot of upside there of being able to double dip on that low CI of DCO.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

But just to be clear, the ethanol as well would qualify that you sell just generically apart from just the renewable diesel from corn oil?

Devin Mogler

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Correct. With a low enough CI as long as it has greater than a 50% GHG reduction, it can qualify for that program as well in addition to any California credits.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yeah. Okay, perfect. That's just I guess my questions. I'll pass it on. Thanks so much.

Todd Becker

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Kristen Owen with Oppenheimer.

Kristen Owen

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Great. Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. Wanted to ask a little bit about the 2022 outlook that you provided last quarter, the 140 to 160 corn oil, 40 to 60 protein. How much of that roughly would you say we've captured to date? And I'm really just trying to think about sort of the exit velocity of that business as you get these additional facilities online in the back half of the year. And what that means for those businesses in 2023?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. I mean, we're still basically on track to hit within the ranges of those numbers, subject to obviously, we want to make sure the plant start-up well. Corn oil pricing still remains not -- it's off highs, but overall, still remains at a premium to soybean oil today in the market. And I think with more plants coming on in the last half of the year and into next year, I think will continue to remain strong relative to soybean oil pricing. And we have a great product with a low carbon score and we're seeing a lot of strong demand from that. From the protein standpoint, we're really focused on the scape velocity out of 2022 into 2003. When we leave the year, we will have about 560 million gallons of our 950 million gallons converted and operating into 2022 -- 2023, sorry, and more coming on in 2023. So when we are start to look at our 2023 outlook, our corn oil volumes will go up, our protein volumes go up. And that's really when we start to see critical inflection points, especially if we can get our partnership in North Dakota started up in middle of next year, get Superior online as well as quickly as we can. We're learning how to build these a lot better, faster, quicker and potentially even cheaper with some of the material pricing coming down. So right now, we remain on track with our guidance through 2024 and 2025. And we're seeing some things even within that that makes us very confident we can hit those numbers and beyond.

Kristen Owen

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

That's really helpful, Todd. I wanted to ask one follow-up question related to the Riverence agreement. You sort of talked about what that means for this particular market. But I'm just wondering what the cadence of customer conversations has been like since you made that announcement? You touched on it briefly this particular market, but I'm just wondering what the cadence of customer conversations has been like since you made that announcement? You touched on it briefly in your prepared remarks, but just wondering if you could expand on that for us? Thank you so much.

Todd Becker

Management

Yes, thanks. I'll talk a little bit about it and I'll let Leslie. We are basically now because of that announcement, it's really -- that is a really important just on its own merit. I mean, I think the partnership is extremely valuable to both parties. I think what we're doing in potential product development is going to be valuable. But what it allowed us to do is really kind of go around the world and talk about and meet with players that need replacement protein products, as you see reduction in production, whether it's going to be from the Black Sea, whether it's going to be from South America. We're seeing some of the true colors of the protein markets collide especially what we're seeing in fish meal as well with Peru and some of the quotas there. So as we indicated, we have -- from that we are in process of finalizing several distribution agreements that we believe will complete -- it will not only be completed over the next several weeks, but we'll start to execute on those. And those are everywhere from South America into Southeast Asia into the Mediterranean and Africa, as well as even in Mexico that we're working on distribution agreement. Those are countries that Green Plains has a nice reach around the world, but we're not in country storing and distributing products. And so we found great partners around the world that have great customer context, whether it's going to be an aquaculture, swine and other areas and pet even in some markets then now we can really move our product more efficiently and quicker into markets. And so it really led to the reach out back to Green Plains from global customers wanting to see the results from trials in aquaculture, wanting to see the positive results that we get in the pigmentation and sometimes the opposite from ingredients derived from corn. So I think generally, it really has led to expanded activities, not only in-country distribution agreements, but really with some global players that are looking for alternative protein ingredients. Leslie, I'll just close on that.

Leslie van der Meulen

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Yes. I think the other thing to recognize is that the Riverence agreement and announcement came on top of our 60 pro announcement from early this year. So when we made the decision that we wanted to go deep in aquaculture, because we see the tremendous growth opportunity, a lot of things have been set in motion. So to put it in a positive perspective, it was really more a positive tidal wave that is coming to us from the response from not just the critical players in the feed industry, but just the embrace to continued development on the ingredients by doing the test, as Todd mentioned, showing data for growth, absorption, digestibility. So everything came together really nicely. So it's another piece of confirmation. And that partnership, yes, it really shows how participants in the value chain can really deliver better quality ingredients and better quality fish.

Kristen Owen

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Great. Thank you so much.

Todd Becker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Manav Gupta with Credit Suisse.

Manav Gupta

Analyst · Credit Suisse.

Hi, guys. I want to quickly revisit this entire reconciliation bill, climate bill. Finally, it looks like the administration is doing lot more on to fight climate change. And there are multiple provisions in there, blenders' tax credit extension, sustainable aviation fuel and 45Q credits. Now you are directly impacted by BTC or directly impacted by 45Q credits. Help us understand, when you look at that bill, which are the things which excites you the most and you think GPRE benefits the most from?

Todd Becker

Management

Well, I mean, you basically mentioned what's really exciting about that bill. It just basically cements the fact that the ingredients we're making and the products we make are in demand and decarbonization is the path forward. And so we focus on obviously lowering our carbon scores across the board on all of our products. In low carbon corn oil, it's going to be low carbon proteins, we're going to have low carbon sugars, sugars going into clean chemicals, green chemicals. I mean, all of this is basically telling us that we were ahead of our -- in our thought process around investing behind these products across the board. And from the standpoint of alcohol-to-jet, that's probably the one that I think is really underplayed relative to what this -- our company and even this industry, because this industry capability is to really make alcohol sustainable aviation fuel a reality. There is only one industry that can gain critical mass to give you -- to give the world significant quantities of sustainable aviation fuel, and that's going to be ethanol and that's going to be the alcohol and ethanol industry and the alcohol we produce. Now technologies have to continue to get pulled forward, but whether it's what you've seen out in the market already or what are things that are in the background, because there's other technologies that I think you're going to see it get pulled forward. There is going to be multiple opportunities to create a sustainable aviation fuel from alcohol as well. So I just think when you look at all of this, even the infrastructure on E15 and higher blends, the $500 million allocation there, and we continue to press and try to get MLPs even though somewhat a nascent industry today of MLPs, there has been some talk of even going to renewables in MLPs, as well and we continue to press forward on that. So I think across the board, generally very positive to ourselves, our industry, others that make renewable diesel any company that really can benefit from any of these, including carbon capture. Devin, you want to add anything else on that?

Devin Mogler

Analyst · Credit Suisse.

No.

Manav Gupta

Analyst · Credit Suisse.

Perfect. A quick follow-up here is, I think on the last quarter call you were very clear that as you took this transfer or make it process, there were initial parts where there was a negative cost absorption and one -- that was one of the reasons your earnings were coming in a little weaker, both in 4Q and 1Q. And what you had indicated was that the majority of that negative cost absorption part had already been done. So when you look at 2Q, it looks like it's in line. And I'm just trying to understand, does that statement still stands true that a majority of that negative cost absorption associated with the transformation process is now behind GPRE?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes, I think that is correct. In general, we had absorbed a lot of negative cost as we're modernizing our plants so that we could set ourselves up well to execute against our transformation, because of Generation 1 plant has to run every day, has to run well and has to run towards at lower cost. And so that's the reason we've spent a lot of time and money on getting our plants with high energy use down to lower energy use. Now, I still think from the standpoint of where the industry is today and where we're at today, we've seen significant inflation in some of the chemicals that we use. So I think some of that ultimately as inflation subsides over time will come back down. That has driven the general cost of the industry higher. Labor costs obviously had gone higher, probably it won't reverse. And then some other things that have inflated during the last couple of years, potentially will drive costs lower. But it's really for us it's about running these plants as hard as we can every single day, making sure whole platform runs well. As the wet miller say, say it's all about grind baby grind. But from a dry mill standpoint and what we do in conversions, we look a lot like a wet mill after our conversion that means you have to grind every single day as hard as you can, and the plants for the most part are fully set up to do that. We have some final little things that we continue to work on that seem to stay a little bit longer. But overall, our modernization program is effectively complete, but it's never done. I think we're going to continue to see where we can drive cost more out of it in the future.

Manav Gupta

Analyst · Credit Suisse.

Thank you for the detailed response. Congrats on a good quarter. And we all hope that we'll pass this goal, we can decarbonize faster. Thank you.

Todd Becker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Hi, everyone.

Todd Becker

Management

Hey, Eric. How are you?

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Hey, doing well. What about you?

Todd Becker

Management

Good.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Good. So I just want to talk a little bit about clean sugars. Just curious, as you think about that, obviously, you started with high pro and you're progressing there. I mean, for clean sugars, do you expect a similar timeline in terms of when you get the commercial momentum? Is that a few years out or kind of given some of the progress you're making in other areas, does that potentially speed up the timeline on the clean sugar side?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. I think what we laid out for '24 and '25 is still hold, at least from the rollout standpoint. Clean sugar is a little bit of a longer game. We start to build our Shenandoah plant, as we speak. And we're working with large customers that need dextrose for their processes. And so the great thing about what we do is it's lower carbon. We make the exact same product that comes out of the current production of a wet mill. We can make it in 95 DE, 43 DE and give them product refined or unrefined, filter or unfiltered and we can give anything they want to do on the fly. And that's a very different a proposal than what they can get traditionally in the past at a co-location, because a lot of them don't really want some of the sugars that are only available to them. So we give them a different alternative. We're talking with customers that range from GBP20 million to GBP 30 million a year to GBP300 million a year and bigger right now as we speak. And we're trying to convince them that we are the best alternative to build their co-location site and we're starting to make great progress. In our first site in Shenandoah, the great thing is it's a great community and a great county and they give -- and with excellent workforce and that's part of when you co-locate next Green Plains, you want to make sure the workforce is there for the co-location plant and we're starting to see that as our first step in Shenandoah. So we signed our first LOI, which we're very excited about. It's a fantastic opportunity to prove out and continue to prove out our technology. We think that ultimately, as we had said, the margin structure is significantly greater in sugar than it is in protein to start. Now at 60 pro, it starts to get up there. But in terms of the first cut margin in sugar, it's still significantly better than anything we can do in protein. Again, quantities maybe a little smaller to start. But ultimately over the next kind of five to 10 years, our view is that we have -- we own the leading technology, we have a leading technology, we're willing to put our money where our mouth is, build the plant and we have significant customer engagement opportunities, both domestically and globally for these products and very excited about it.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Got it. That's great color. Maybe last one for me just turning to the renewable corn oil and in renewable diesel space. I mean, just your updated thoughts on whether you prefer long-term contracts potentially spot or a mix of both from maybe where your expectations are now knowing your work in turn something in the future?

Todd Becker

Management

There is nobody willing today and to anybody in the world that's going to say, I'll pay you this. Well, they would if it's cheap enough, but I'll pay you this much for your oil for the next 10 years. That's not what's happening in the market. It's a little bit more of what's the opportunity set, what can -- how does Green Plains -- how do Green Plains shareholders benefit from that. If I want to just sell oil and lock in price, I have three years of a forward curve in Chicago Mercantile Exchange. I can go and start to hedge oil or find somebody in the over-the-counter market to do that as well. So if I just want to hedge oil, I can do that. I want to -- I'm never worried that I won't have a home for the industry actually in general. We are not worried that we won't have a home for these oils. It's a significantly lower carbon intensity and what happens in soybean oil and other veg oils, there's only one lower than us today. I think we're going to continue to drive those carbon scores lower. We'll see what happens if carb takes a relook at that again because of the carbon sequestration, how oil qualifies in low carbon fuel markets. So we're very confident that what we have is very valuable. As we get to the end of our program, building out our own plants, we'll be pressing towards GBP400 million a year. While not the biggest in the world, we're top five of corn oil producers. And we think we provide a very strategic feedstock to somebody who wants to make it very compelling for us to lock our volumes in. But it's more -- we're not just looking for an offtake, we're looking for a partnership, we're looking for some opportunities that really drive above and beyond just out selling oil as a company, and I think we're going to get there. We continue to remain in discussions with several parties on different opportunities that we think would be beneficial, and I think it's just a matter of time. But in the meantime, look, if we stay and we don't do anything, it's going to be a fantastic contribution to cash flows in the future.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum.

Yes, understood. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Ken Zaslow with BMO Capital Markets.

Ken Zaslow

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Todd Becker

Management

Good morning, Ken.

Kenneth Zaslow

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Can you talk about the economics of high pro? How much will you actually realize in profitability of what the economics imply?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. So we initially said when we rolled out our 50 pro or basically as an alternative to soybean meal at 48 to 50 pro, we initially said that that initial margin is $0.12 to $0.15 a gallon equivalent. And we also said, when you're trying to go higher than that, it goes to a little bit higher in the low-50s, it goes $0.15 to $0.25 a gallon equivalent. And then we're still in the 60% protein in that $0.40 to $0.50 a gallon equivalent as well. And that obviously had some contribution from the oil uplift and top of that the protein -- per unit value of protein, as we said, maintains a higher value because of the finite amount of 60 pro and above versus 50 pro and below. So we're still on track for all of those. That's going to be what the product mix will be. The interesting thing what we found with our technology is that if we have a customer who says I only need 48% protein, we could run our plants a lot harder and actually increase our margin structure because when we talk about making -- and we initially said we are going to make 3 to 3.5 pounds per bushel, we are now talking to 4 to 4.5 to 5 pounds per bushel. So our yields are going higher, which then allows us to run harder. And if we see maybe a 48% protein customer in large volumes, we might make more money doing that than selling a 50% or 52% customer in small volume. So we're really starting to play around with product mix and yield and production. And that's the uniqueness of owning a technology versus buying a technology. And we have the founders and we have 40 engineers that all they do all day is build these things and add technology around these things. We get to see what the best of the best is relative to this technology. And as I indicated, we've seen yield as high as 5 pounds per bushel, which is literally unheard of in high protein relative to who we compete with around the world in corn. So we're -- it's a bit of a product mix, but overall, all of the margins are holding. And in fact, if you press harder with maybe a lesser protein, you actually could make more money because of yields. So there's a little bit of that going on as well, but we're very positive on the margin structure that we've laid out and some increases that are even going on from there.

Kenneth Zaslow

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

So my second question is, in 2023, what do you expect your product mix to be? How do you kind of give some ranges of what you think how much will be 60%, how much will be 48% and how do you do that? Is there a composite profitability that you can assign to that that would be very helpful?

Todd Becker

Management

Yes. I think that's something we'll probably work on over the next several quarters. If you look at our takeaway capacity at the end of 2022 and we're just going to start to go into negotiation season for '23 and '24 with customers. And I think it'll be a mix, probably a bigger mix still towards 50s, low-50s versus 60 for 2023. But once we get into 2024, we hope -- our goal and everything we're doing at Green Plains around this technology, around our product development, around our customer development is to flip the script in 2024 and start to produce higher levels of 60 pro versus 50 pro. And that's really when we believe 2024 will be the time when we start to get good critical mass in those higher proteins and even looking at ways that we could drive proteins even higher than that. So I think it's a bit of a mix in '23, and we'll give you more guidance on that towards the end of the year. And then '24 is when we make this -- we think we'll be able to flip that a little bit more.

Kenneth Zaslow

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks.

Todd Becker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Michael Schoeck with Roth Capital.

Craig Irwin

Analyst · Roth Capital.

It's Craig Irwin. Thank you. Todd, you were really clear in your prepared remarks that the second half of this year probably should be a pretty healthy financial outlook. But during the quarter with the geopolitical events and some of the other happenings, the volatility in corn has been a fairly active discussion among shareholders and people looking at the stock to potentially accumulate here. Can you maybe unpack for us what volatility in corn looks like, potential positives, negatives for the third and fourth quarters? Can you maybe give us a little bit of color on your position for these quarters? And how should we think about the fact that corn has been coming off since a certain country started exporting again? Is this something that maybe does help us a little bit more in the back end of the year?

Todd Becker

Management

I don't think it's just a corn story necessarily. I think when we look at corn, certainly, we had a view that overall corn -- we are fundamentally at 850 Bearish corn at that point, because we felt like Ukraine became the storage of the world and the U.S. became the residual supplier to the world and that kind of all happened. And now we've seen the market structure has come back where the job of the U.S. market again is to be the residual supplier to the world and we're seeing that in the term structure and we're seeing that in the ultimate price of corn today. Now how we finish this crop is going to be critical to the ability for the U.S. to have a good crop. And I think there is definitely areas of fantastic results and I think we've seen some probably slip in yield over the last couple of weeks, because of this weather and what you see this record heat wave that will last another five to 10-days. But notwithstanding that, the rains in the Midwest have set at least Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, South Dakota, North Dakota up well to deliver and that's kind of the most important states. I think the Mid-South, a little bit dry. But overall, we probably anticipate today yields lower than what the USDA have probably put out, had put out. But you haven't made any money in the last five years betting against the corn crop and weather. And I think that's mainly the driver here of the reduced prices overall, as well as obviously you start exporting out of the Black Sea, you've got tens of millions of tons of more corn hitting the market. On top of that, as we had said earlier, the Russian…

Craig Irwin

Analyst · Roth Capital.

Yes. No, that makes a lot of sense. My next question is about corn fermented protein. So in your press release you are very clear that you expect this current quarter to be one of your strongest in new orders. I assume that maybe predominantly 50 pro, maybe a little bit of 50 pro, but more importantly, would you expect these to be announceable orders or orders that we might have to wait until the next earnings call to hear about? And is there a possibility we start to hear about tonnage commitments in these different contracts?

Todd Becker

Management

I think the thing we have to do is be very careful about what an announceable order is, because we announced our pet food relationship. And anybody that makes any product with any protein now is trying to steal the business away, but we have a great relationship with them. So we don't want to just lay out our playbook to everybody in the world to see where we're going to sell this product. I mean, we have product moving into many markets globally, and I'll let Leslie just talk a little bit about that. But I mean, we have now great momentum coming into this quarter, whether it's going to be a 50 pro. If somebody wants a little lower with higher yield, we can do that. If you want 60 pro, we can do that. I think we're going to see a variety of orders come in this order -- this quarter not just for nearby, but also for the -- really what we're waiting for is the programs to start to kick off for 2023 and the campaigns, and that's really what we're setting ourselves up for. But I think we could see strong interest in our 60 pro product for 2023 volumes. I think we'll have very strong interest in our 50 pro plus product for later in the year in 2023 volumes and we've been setting ourselves up. Remember, we haven't had any product to sell. We've had Wood River and Shenandoah. And they always want customers that buy high value products. Don't want -- they want to see the production of running before they give you big orders that are bigger than what you can produce today. And I think we're finally able to show these customers globally that we can provide a volume into 2023 that have never been available before. Leslie, you want to talk a little bit about maybe some of our progress we're making specifically in some countries and without kind of giving our whole playbook away?

Leslie van der Meulen

Analyst · Roth Capital.

Yes, let me try. I think the point you're making here and I would like to echo that, it's imperative for us that as we've established and positioned ourselves to build very strong and deep relationships with some of the major players in the world, again, those names would not come as a surprise to you that they also have a certain sense of view on their own proprietary diets. And as we're trying to help them, it's to our advantage to really become a nutritional partner to them that solves problems, because when we move into a diet, other people move out of the diet. So it's a very delicate balance that we're trying to address here. We understand of course that the market would like to see all of this broken out. But for us, it's really that go and deepen those relationships. You can imagine that the multinational companies, feed companies in the world have markets that we can access today. Some of them that need some more development for tomorrow. But it's -- we started this journey several years ago. And I mentioned earlier in response to your other question about the aquaculture progress, it's really picking up. So we have to respect the fact that some of our partners are even saying we want to benefit from your technology platform, from your ability to make our products better, but it's also not something that they want to announce immediately due to, as I said, the aforementioned position in the market.

Craig Irwin

Analyst · Roth Capital.

Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And now I'll hand the call back over to President and CEO, Todd Becker, for any closing remarks.

Todd Becker

Management

Hey, thanks everybody for being on the call. As you could see, we're making great product -- progress and product, by the way. So we are really optimistic for our departure out of 2022, operating well over half or over half our platform with more coming on in 2023. And I think that's really when we will start to see the critical mass that we need to start putting up good results in all of our segments, including our corn fermented protein, our Ultra High Protein production. We are seeing great evolution of this product, innovation around this product, customer acceptance of this product and we could see inflection and almost to a point where we know in 2023 when we really start to see a different Green Plains appear in your eyes. So until then, as I said, we're in great financial shape, should finish the year with positive margins. We got to watch some things to make sure that. But based on today's market, it's there for us to deliver. And we have a lot to do, but right now we're executing well. So thank you for your continued support, and we will talk to everybody next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlmen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. And you may now disconnect.