Richard J. Harshman
Analyst
Yes, well, I mean, I think that -- as we said in the earnings release that we continue to expect to see quarter-on-quarter improvement for the balance of the year. And that is based upon a continuing economic recovery, not only in the U.S. market, but at least some stability in the global markets outside the U.S. and some stability in raw material prices. One of the continuing issues that we have, especially given how the surcharges and indices work and the longer cycle times for our high-value products, in particular, not only in the High Performance Metals segment but also the high-value products in the Flat-Rolled Products segment, is it's a challenge with raw material costs continuing to fall for the surcharges and indices to match up. So we see margin compression in that kind of an environment just as we see margin expansion from a timing standpoint when raw material costs are going up. And as we look at how the surcharges work -- and they're different between the Flat-Rolled Products segment and the High Performance Metals segment. In the High Performance Metals, there is basically a quarterly lag. So if you look at some of the surcharges and indices that we do publish, at least from a public standpoint, when you look at the impact of the surcharges on titanium, for example, the second quarter surcharges are falling about 10%, a little over 10% compared to the first quarter. The first quarter fell a little over 15% compared to the fourth quarter of 2012. So I think that the comment about the second quarter is not only from a demand standpoint, especially as we continue to see the aftermarket struggling here a little bit, but also due to the margin compression because of the mismatch of the raw material indices and surcharges versus the costs that are flowing through the P&L. If we -- if the -- there appears to be some level of a bottoming forming on not only nickel and nickel scrap, but also on titanium scrap. And if that, in fact happens here in the second quarter, that will remove a headwind as we get into the second half of the year. And that, combined with a hopefully improving demand picture, will lead to quarter-on-quarter improvement over the balance of the year. I think that -- we haven't specifically given either in January a quantitative guidance or today a quantitative guidance because of a lot of uncertainties. And I think it's safe to say that the first quarter was below our expectation, heading into the year. Part of that was because, on the Flat-Rolled Products segment, the price increase that was announced and held for a very short time evaporated. And raw material cost continued to fall. And demand was weaker, quite frankly, in the -- on the aftermarket than we expected heading into the year.