Joshua W. Sapan - AMC Networks, Inc.
Management
Got it. Okay. So, the first part of your question, really, when we make a reference to fully distributed, we're talking about AMC, and the other four channels are not fully distributed. They're not essentially in every or nearly every household that is available. So, as you know, there has been some decline in aggregate subscribers in the paid MVPD universe in America over the past few years and it moves by quarter. You'll get the best track of it just by counting, of course, from the actual companies themselves as they report because that's the purest count and not a surrogate count either through a programmer like ourselves whose sort of second party to it or through the Nielsen UE, which creates all degree in the math. The fundamental trend, which I think is important if I can just stay on what is fundamental, is there's been some erosion in the overall universe. I would say that round numbers, it seems that half of that erosion has been offset by virtual MVPDs, round numbers. And so that trend, I personally really can't predict, but I'm personally encouraged that offering Internet first, whether it's from an incumbent MVPD or a new MVPD, is attractive for multiple reasons, including price flexibility, interface, et cetera, and the MVPDs are also improving their job to their better. When you look at their interfaces, they're really getting a lot better. I'll make a self-serving point within that and then get to your second question, which is that inasmuch as there is a bit of a shift from sort of Internet first, whether it's an incumbent MVPD or a new one, and there is a re-organization and a re-election of the channels that are carried there, which there often is that we've seen, it serves us and it serves us because we have a higher bang for the buck, and frankly, a low price for great stuff. So that trend will be singularly positive for AMC Networks, singularly positive for AMC Networks. So that's just a good thing. More specifically, on your question of our uptick in subscribers on incumbent MVPDs where we get repositioned, which Sean referred to in his prepared remarks, we've come a long way and there's still headroom. So, we have some existing room to go on getting IFC, WE tv, BBC America and Sundance further, better positioned, if I can use those words, where we are carried. We just accomplished a major improvement in that regard that Sean mentioned when he talked about second quarter, which is great to see for us and it's an affirmation we think of the quality that we have, and, of course, it results in good economics. So, there's more headroom there. And a separate issue probably not to be confused is the opportunity that then goes on with virtual MVPDs and the trajectory of their growth.