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WSFS Financial Corporation (WSFS)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 24, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the WSFS Financial Corporation Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to Chief Financial Officer, Dominic Canuso. Sir, you may begin.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Thank you, Shelby, and thanks to all of you for taking the time to participate on our call today. With me on this call are Rodger Levenson, Chief Operating Officer; Art Bacci, Chief Wealth Officer; Steve Clark, Chief Commercial Banking Officer; and Rick Wright, Chief Retail Banking Officer. Mark Turner, our President, Chairman and CEO is unable to join us on the call today as he is travelling internationally. Before Rodger begins with his remarks, I would like to read our Safe Harbor statement. Our discussions today will include information about our management’s view of our future expectations, plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ material – materially from historical results or those indicated by these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, the risk factors included in our Annual Report on Form 10-K and our most recent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, as well as other documents we periodically file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that read, I’ll turn the discussion over to Rodger Levenson.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Thank you, Dominic, and thank you to everyone for your time and attention today. We are pleased to announce a very strong quarter for WSFS with reported earnings of $28.7 million, or $0.89 per share. Earnings per share grew 39% when compared to the second quarter of 2017. These results represent an ROA of 1.65% and a return on average tangible common equity of 20.61%. Our performance this quarter was a reflection of significant organic revenue growth, which was balanced between our fee and spread businesses, good loan and deposit growth and solid credit metrics. Core results, excluding securities gains and corporate development costs in both quarters were modestly stronger than the reported results. Core net interest income growth of 12% versus the same quarter in 2017 was directly related to a 4.10% net interest margin combined with a 7% annualized growth in both total loans and total customer deposits for the quarter when compared to the first quarter of 2018. As detailed in the earnings release, the reported net interest margin increased 17 basis points and on an organic basis increased 13 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2017. An 11 basis points of this increase was a result of being well-positioned for the higher short-term rate environment. While we are pleased with the growth in our margin, we expect to see the already competitive deposit pricing environment intensify in the coming quarters. Combined with ongoing commercial loan pricing pressure, likely higher deposit betas should offset the full quarter impact of the June Fed funds target increase of 25 basis points, as well as potential additional 2018 rate hikes. As a result, we see a net interest margin that will likely be in a range plus or minus around 4.05% for the second-half of 2018. Loan growth…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Catherine Mealor from KBW. Your line is now open.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning on a great quarter and also Rodger on your new job role.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Thank you, Catherine.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

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Richard Wright

Analyst

Catherine, this is Rick Wright.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Hey, Rick.

Richard Wright

Analyst

How are you? Spring EQ is a Philadelphia-based company that sources home equity loans digitally across the country. We have a 20-year relationship with one of the principles involved there. And we have a forward agreement with them, as well as a small warehouse line that we participate, and we also agree to provide them wherewithal to get started. So we did – the underwriting standards are the – are principally the same as we use for our core generated business here. And we would expect that we’re going to continue over the next 12 to 18 months to take in about as much as we’re doing now from them.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay. And what are you buying from them? Are they also national credit, or you concentrating more of what you’re purchasing in your end markets?

Richard Wright

Analyst

At the moment, they’re pretty much national. They come from 30 different states. We’re looking to perhaps revise that a bit in and try to focus a little more in our footprint. But at the moment, we’re taking them pretty much across the country.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Yes. And Catherine, this is Rodger. I would just reiterate what Rick said, it’s all down to our underwriting standards. And the profile of the loans geographically would be what you would expect from a company that’s in the early stages of its start-up, and it’s worked out to be very consistent with the original plan. And we’re really pleased with how that relationship has progressed.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay, thanks. So – and would you say how much of the can with all of the consumer growth tied to this?

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

A lot of it. I think, we grew about $36 million for the quarter. We – about $24-ish million was from Spring EQ, $2.5 million was, what I would call, core footprint growth. And then we have another thing that we’re doing with a company called LendKey that sources us student loans in sort of an expanded footprint of ours and that grew about $5.8 million.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay. Do you say about $20 million, $24 million a quarter coming from this Spring EQ relationship, is it correct?

Richard Wright

Analyst

We’re – I would say, $10 million-ish a month is about what we’re getting from them growth.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay. Sounds great. And then separately on the commercial side, what is your outlook for commercial growth in the back-half of the year, given more competitivepricing and the outlook for CRE pay downs to continue to be a headwind? It seems like the origination growth was still really strong this quarter?

Steve Clark

Analyst

Hey, Catherine, Steve Clark here.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Hey, Steve.

Steve Clark

Analyst

How are you?

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Good.

Steve Clark

Analyst

Our expectations for the second-half of the year kind of remain consistent with what we previously communicated kind of mid to high single-digit growth in commercial loans. We’re feeling very good about our pipeline. As Rodger indicated and about 90-day weighted average of $150 million and that’s the highest it’s been since this time last year. So we’re optimistic about the second-half of the year.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Great. Okay. And then one just small follow-up. The other non-interest income was up a little bit more than last quarter, I think, up about $1 million. Anything in there that we should know about that’s driving that increase?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Catherine, this is Dominic. A good portion of that…

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Hey, Dominic.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

How are you?

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Good.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

A good portion of that increase is coming from non-bailment fee income from Cash Connect. So their total cash management services, which is the repackaged armored car carrier services, insurance and other logistics and software offerings.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Got it. So that’s a good run rate to grow from here then?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Correct.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay, great. Awesome forecast. But thanks for that – or congrats on a great quarter. I appreciate it.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Thanks, Catherine.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Russell Gunther from Davidson. Your line is now open.

Russell Gunther

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, guys.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Good afternoon, Russell.

Russell Gunther

Analyst

Just wanted to circle back to the margin guidance that was provided – caught some of this. But if you could just kind of flush out your assumptions in the back-half for Fed fund increases, which are kind of modeling internally for deposit betas to step-up and then the purchase accounting accretion there, a lot of moving parts, but just some help on the assumptions would be great?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Sure. This is Dominic. And first I’ll level set the second quarter performance. As Rodger mentioned, the 4.10% net interest margin included about 6 basis points of outsized purchase loan accretion. So we would see is a normalized NIM for the quarter around 4.04%. And what we’ve observed through the cycle to date is a deposit beta of about 20%. And again, as Rodger mentioned, we anticipate that to increase back towards the historical average of 50% over the next few rate increases. So we actually see that 4.04% to maintain, while we see potential benefits from the rising rate environment, primarily one more increase this year in September, that is likely offset by the continued runoff of the purchase loan accretion, the runoff of the reverse mortgage portfolio and the rising betas that we anticipate.

Russell Gunther

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you. And then on the expense side of things up a little bit relative to what I was looking for appreciate the performance on continued operating leverage and recommitment to the sub-60% efficiency. But is there anything in that, call it, $57.4 million core that is either seasonal in nature or may not run rate going forward?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

This is Dominic. And we actually do see the second quarter as a healthy run rate for the business. We are pleased with the high-50 and would expect us to maintain through that. As we mentioned in both the release and Rodger’s comments, a good portion of the growth that we saw in non-interest expense was performance-based variable comp and earn-out, that is associated with the strong revenues generated. So we expect both to continue and us to deliver our guidance of below 60 efficiency ratio for the full-year.

Russell Gunther

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks, Dominic. And then just last one for me is on the growth in both CDs and brokerage CDs, assuming that it’s kind of captured in the margin guide. But sort of what’s the trajectory for those deposit buckets and just remind us of your strategy on the funding side there?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Sure. The first thing I would note is, we’re very pleased with the growth in the deposit – the core customer deposits. In the second quarter, we were evidence of our strong brand and presence in our market. We were able to grow our non-interest bearing deposits very helpfully, given the rising rate environment, along with the purposeful increase in our CD portfolio. We foresee both continuing to grow. We look to remain competitive with both our money market pricing and our CD promotions to ensure our customers have competitive rates with us. And so we would anticipate that to continue and to deliver the mid to high single-digit growth that we offer.

Richard Wright

Analyst

And I would add just, Russell, on – broker deposit is just another vehicle that we used to fund the balance sheet growth, including Cash Connect. So I think what you see there is what you should expect to see for the remainder of the year.

Russell Gunther

Analyst

That’s very helpful, guys. Thanks so much. That’s all I have.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Frank Schiraldi from Sandler O’Neill. Your line is now open.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

Hi, guys, good afternoon.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Hi, Frank.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

Just a couple of questions I had left. In terms of you think about this, I don’t know if you’d call it credit sponsorship. But when you think about the Spring EQ and LendKey, those relationships, where do you see this – those balances potentially growing to in the near-term as a percentage of loans or of consumer? And what is – what’s the appetite for growth there?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

So I’ll kick it off and then I’ll let Rick add some color. First, on the Spring EQ relationship, as Rick mentioned, we have a long-term relationship with the principle – the key principle of this entity. And so we have always viewed this as an opportunity to partner with them at the early stage of their growth, hopefully learn some things about how to offer home equity products digitally and make an equity investment, as Rick discussed. But then at some point as they got bigger and more traction, we would expect that relationship to change as they got more access to capital and warehouse lines and other things. So for the foreseeable future certainly through the next year or so, the numbers that Rick outlined to you would be our continued expectation. Some point beyond that, we’d probably go down a little bit depending upon their success rate and kind of where we’re positioned in the marketplace. And that was always been our expectation kind of help them get started for a period of time and then they would move on and we would then hopefully at some point monetize our equity investment in the company and also gain some learnings from that relationship. LendKey has been a partnership, which we’ve had for a number of years. It’s really our primary student lending product. As Rick described, it’s basically in footprint, although that’s a little bit expanded from where our physical footprint is. And we would expect that to continue to grow at the rate that it’s been growing over the last couple of years. We’re pleased with that partnership. We look at student lending as an important part of our consumer lending offering and would expect that to continue longer-term.

Richard Wright

Analyst

This is Rick Wright, again. I – the only color I would add is Spring and LendKey much like SoFi and Zenbanx are things that we try really hard to learn from, because as the digital changes are happening in the marketplace, we just want to make sure that we are agile enough to do what we need to do. And so I think the learning part of this is probably almost equally important to us as the balance sheet activity.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

Sorry. It sounds like you guys covered some of that before, I might have missed it. But – and then just the other question was on Cash Connect. Is there – as we think about kind of returning that business to where it has been maybe on a legacy ROA, legacy return levels, should we think about – is there the ability to pass on some of the higher funding costs to customers in the legacy business, or is there really more now just about retooling away from that cash heavy business? And if so – or either way, I guess, can you just share with us the kind of start-up expense that might be running through that pre-tax income level at this point that might as you build out that new business may dissipate to a certain degree?

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Sure, thanks. This is Dominic. First, I’ll start off by saying Cash Connect in its 20 years history has evolved at various points as the market has shifted. And this is another time, which we believe we will successfully position ourselves for the future. With bailment as the primary revenue source, most of that is already passed on through the bailment pricing structure to our customers. What we saw in the second quarter year-over-year was 17% fee income growth, primarily driven by bailment, along with improvement in our TCM penetration in our existing customer base, along with the very healthy growth of smart safe. That resulted in a 10% net revenue growth and that reduction was really a result of some pricing pressure and pricing concessions on some customers in the quarter as a result of the rising rate environment. We still believe that there’s still upside and strong growth from bailment business. But as you mentioned, we are focused on diversifying through the TCM product or the bundling of armored carrier services, insurance and optimization and reconciliation software with our customers, growing that penetration by 40% year-over-year along with a 68% growth in our smart safe revenues versus the second quarter of last year. In fact, year-to-date, we’ve grown the number of smart safes in the market by over 20%. So we are in the midst of reinvesting in that diversification within the business. And we expect that to pay off over the next year as we return the margins back towards the historical average of 1.30% to 1.50% ROA. Thank you.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Austin Nicholas from Stephens. Your line is now open.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Hey, guys, good morning.

Dominic Canuso

Analyst

Hey, Austin.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Good morning.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Most of my questions have been answered. But maybe just on the corporate development costs, can you remind us what costs are included in there? And any expectations for those in the back-half of the year?

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

So Austin, it’s Rodger. So as we’ve said previously, 2017 was a year of optimizing prior acquisition and investments and we would begin the process in 2018 of doing more prospecting. So the cost that you see there are the costs of prospecting for some potential corporate development activities. And as a reminder, on the traditional bank side, we said that’s – our focus continues to be on continued investment in Southeastern PA. And we’re also looking on fee-based side to supplement those businesses with smaller bolt-on acquisitions, primarily in the wealth space where we think we have a tremendous amount of opportunity. So the cost that you would see in there would be kind of a normal cost of that prospecting and talking to potential interested parties.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Understood, thanks. And then I guess, is the efficiency guidance, does that include the corporate development costs, or does that exclude them?

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

So that efficiency ratio that we offer below 60% is on a core basis. So it excludes securities gains and corporate development costs.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Understood. Okay, great. And then maybe just one last one on the relationship with SoFi. Could you give us some color on how that’s performed or any kind of color on the financial impact that you’ve seen so far? And any developments beyond the cash management account that was announced, I think, at the end of last year, would be really helpful?

Richard Wright

Analyst

There really – this is Rick Wright, again. There really hasn’t been anything significantly new on that. We are still trying to help them launch their money market product. It is still in beta. They’re expecting to launch it later this year. We have a situation with them or an agreement with them that we receive a small amount of expense reimbursement for this at this point. But there’s really nothing material that that’s happening with SoFi to us.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Understood. I hope that’s all the questions I have. Thanks, guys.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Thanks, Austin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back to Rodger Levenson for any further remarks.

Rodger Levenson

Analyst

Thank you, again, everybody, for joining us today Mark, Dominic and I will be on the road in the coming months, and we look forward to seeing many of you at that time. Thank you and good day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This concludes today’s program. You may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.