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Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 1, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Cactus Q2 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Alan Boyd, Director of Corporate Development and Investor Relations.

Alan Boyd

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning. We appreciate you joining us on today's call. Our speakers will be Scott Bender, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Jay Nutt, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us today are Joel Bender, President; Steven Bender, Chief Operating Officer; Steve Tadlock, CEO of FlexSteel; and Will Marsh, our General Counsel. Please note that any comments we make on today's call regarding projections or expectations for future events are forward-looking statements covered by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to review our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements. In addition, during today's call, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. With that, I'll turn the call over to Scott.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Thanks, Alan, and good morning to everyone. We generated substantial free cash flow during the second quarter despite the [ existences ] caused by tariffs and commodity market weakness. We also announced a transformative acquisition of a controlling interest in Baker Hughes’ Surface Pressure Control business. Our Spoolable Technologies business outperformed profit expectations in the quarter and our Pressure Control product sales remained strong relative to declining activity levels. I'd like to thank our Cactus associates for another quarter in which we remain focused on safety and execution for our customers despite the challenging business climate. Some second quarter total company financial highlights include revenue of $274 million, adjusted EBITDA of $87 million, adjusted EBITDA margins of 31.7%. We increased our cash balance to $405 million. And yesterday, we announced that our Board approved an 8% increase in our quarterly dividend to $0.14 per share. I'll now turn the call over to Jay Nutt, our CFO, who will review our financial results. And following his remarks, I'll provide some thoughts on our outlook for the near term before opening the lines for Q&A. So Jay?

Jay A. Nutt

Analyst

Thank you, Scott. As Scott just mentioned, total Q2 revenues were $274 million, a sequential 2.4% decline and total adjusted EBITDA was $87 million, down 7.6% sequentially. For our Pressure Control segment, revenues of $180 million were down 5.5% sequentially, driven primarily by lower revenue in our rental business, where pricing often weakens disproportionately when overall demand softens. As we've demonstrated in the past, we will continue to selectively deploy rental equipment when returns meet our threshold. A less favorable product mix compared to the first quarter resulted in slightly lower product revenues in the period, though our product sales decreased less than the decline in the average U.S. land rig count, a testament to our strong market position. Operating income declined $12 million or 22.1% sequentially with operating margins compressing 510 basis points and adjusted segment EBITDA was $11.7 million or 18% lower sequentially with margins decreasing by 450 basis points. The operating margin decline was primarily due to the lower operating leverage, higher product costs due to tariffs, which particularly impacted our results in June and the lower revenue contribution from our higher-margin rental business. In addition, we recorded $5.1 million of legal expenses and reserves in connection with litigation claims, which represented an increase of approximately $2 million from the first quarter. For our Spoolable Technologies segment, revenues of $96 million were up 3.9% sequentially on higher domestic customer activity in the seasonally stronger second quarter. Operating income increased $4.2 million or 17.5% sequentially with operating margins expanding 340 basis points due to the improved operating leverage and increased manufacturing efficiencies following our investments in the same. Adjusted segment EBITDA increased $4.4 million or 13.2% sequentially, while margins expanded by 320 basis points. Corporate and other expenses were flat sequentially at $9.6 million in Q2, which included…

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Thanks, Jay. I'd like to take a few moments to discuss our latest understanding of the tariff impact on our business and the corresponding weaker-than-anticipated Pressure Control margin performance in the second quarter. On June 4, the Section 232 tariff rate on steel and certain steel derivatives was unexpectedly doubled from 25% to 50%. This resulted in an increase in the tariff rate applied to goods imported from our Chinese manufacturing facility from the minimum 45% incremental rate discussed on last quarter's call and reflected in our guidance affirmed on June 4 to what is now an incremental 70%. As a result of the general tax, tariff uncertainty and this change, we broadened our supply chain to other higher-cost jurisdictions, including the U.S. to ensure certainty of delivery for our customers. These higher cost materials turned through our inventory faster than we had anticipated, resulting in depressed margins as we exited the quarter. In light of recent announcements, we must now modify the statement we made last quarter regarding our expectations that sourcing from Vietnam going forward would put us back into the same tariff position we have been operating under for the past several years. Considering the recent doubling of the Section 232 tariffs, we now believe that the rate applied to most imports from Vietnam could remain at 50% despite the recently published rate of 20%, an absolute increase of 25% over the Section 301 rate that applied to our imports from China since 2018. This increased rate has not changed our planning to heavily utilize Vietnam for our U.S. imports given the challenges of scaling U.S. manufacturing and the cost competitiveness of Vietnam. We continue to work with our vendors and our customers to neutralize the impact of these increased tariff-based rates going forward. I'll now touch…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel.

Stephen David Gengaro

Analyst

I think 2 things for me. I think, first, you mentioned that it sounds like June was kind of felt the brunt of the tariffs, but you still guided Pressure Control margins pretty flat in the second quarter. Can you just sort of maybe provide a little bit more color around how that's achieved sequentially? Because I'm just thinking June was probably worse than the average in the quarter you just reported.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

You would be correct. So I'd tell you there really were a couple of factors, Stephen. The first one was this unexpected doubling of Section 232 for which the administration gave absolutely no notice. So when we prepared our guide for June, we didn't anticipate that 232 was going to ratchet up by 25 absolute points. So that impacted both inbound goods from Vietnam and inbound goods from China. So that was clearly not anticipated. I think the second point is that we had begun to look for alternate supply chain sources and that was primarily in the U.S. And the U.S. supply chain, as you know, is higher cost than our imported supply chain, but we still believe it was below what the fully tariff amount would have been. And I think the last was we had anticipated pushing through some cost recovery initiatives only to see oil prices implode in April and May, which actually caused our customers to request price relief rather than entertain cost recovery requests. So we had to put that on pause for a bit. So those are the 3 contributing factors.

Stephen David Gengaro

Analyst

Okay. And then the other question I had is sort of bigger picture, like when we look at the world, I mean, oil prices are relatively high. I mean, I know the strip is may be a little lower than the spot price. But when you think about it and you talk to your customers about the next several quarters, what do you think they're looking for to lead to some confidence to ramp activity? Because I feel like the oil price backdrop is not that bad, the rig count just kind of keeps shrinking.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Yes, Stephen, I'm not really sure that our customers are as responsive today as they had -- as they were 5 years ago to more robust crude prices because you're entirely right. I think that, that range of $65 to $70 is certainly providing very reasonable returns. But they're so focused right now on capital discipline and returning cash to shareholders that nobody wants to be the first to announce CapEx expansion. Having said that, it's undeniable that the gas market is expanding. I think our gas rig count is up 50% since January, which is, of course, diametrically at odds with our oil rig count. So unfortunately, for us and maybe the rest of the industry, with some exceptions, gas still makes up a much lower percentage of our total rig count. So I guess the short answer is, yes, we're going to see some expansion with gas, but it's starting at a much lower base. And I don't think we're going to see a significant response to oil prices.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from David Anderson of Barclays.

J. David Anderson

Analyst

So your product lines in the U.S. are leveraged across drilling, completions and production. It sounds like completions was the weakest for you this quarter as rentals were really kind of taking a hit. I was wondering, could you kind of walk me through your views on the second half about how those 3 components are trending? I mean, should we expect production to hold up stronger? Do you think completions might be a little bit stronger than drilling? You're indicating maybe the rig count declines are kind of behind us. Can you just walk me through kind of how those 3 things are kind of driving the second half?

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

First, I would probably expand on your conclusion that it was completions or frac activity that mostly impacted our results. But I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that our production business was also beginning to soften, not as significantly as our frac-related business. So then in answer to your question about the rest of the year, I think our team believes that completion activity or frac-related activity is going to decline more significantly than drilling activity. So as I mentioned, we're already, as of today, 12% below in terms of frac crews. I said at least 10%, but the number is actually 12% today below the frac crew count in the second quarter of this year. And I really don't see that situation improving very much. Unfortunately, as frac activity wanes, so does the subsequent production activity because if we don't frac a well, we can't put a production tree on there. Now I think we've got quite a few locations that may have been fracked and don't have production trees. So production activity, I don't think will suffer to the same degree as frac-related activity.

J. David Anderson

Analyst

All right. Let's shift to much more positive things, Middle East. Middle East acquisition, I'm really -- love to know a little bit about how -- now you've kind of been in here a little bit and I'm curious how you're going to approach this. We've watched you grow the Pressure Control business in U.S. land essentially from scratch to a dominant share position. Clearly, you've done a great job whipping spoolables into shape, but this business in the Middle East is a different story. By all accounts, it's been essentially orphaned under the prior owner. I was wondering if you could kind of walk us through about turning something like this around. Where do you start? What's the process on something like this? How are you sort of thinking about it right now? Really appreciate it.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Wow, David. Sorry. It's going to be -- to maybe offer my opinion about how Baker has run the company. So let me first say that Baker has done a significant job in improving the results of their international business over the last 2 years. So kudos to them. They made some very, very difficult decisions in terms of closing down the less productive manufacturing facilities. I'm looking at my General Counsel here to make sure -- you're trying to -- you're not kicking me, are you? So kudos to them. I think that in general, we operate with a much flatter organization. I mean that's undeniable, you can imagine. We operate with a much flatter organization than any of our large competitors and Baker is no exception, nor is FMC or Schlumberger Cameron. So I think that the culture is going to be significantly different. I think the next area of emphasis will clearly be on our supply chain philosophy, which again, Baker has done a remarkable job in improving their cost structure for their products. But I still believe that we do a much better job, particularly in an environment that's not plagued with tariffs. So I think you could look for supply chain. I think you can look for organization and cultural changes. Frankly, I'm excited about the opportunity to enhance that business. I also think you're going to see the same degree of focus that we've brought to the U.S. market on the international market where that has not been the case.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Arun Jayaram from JPMorgan Securities.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

So is it fair to say when you guys came out with your early June kind of update to the market on Pressure Control margins in that 33%, 35% range that it didn't factor in maybe 2 things. One is the increase in Section 232 tariffs as well as some of the legal costs that Jay mentioned in his opening remarks. Is that fair?

Jay A. Nutt

Analyst

I mean it is fair, but I'd say, there's more than just that. There's the Section 232, which was significant. But there also is our cost recovery efforts were paused because of the implosion in crude prices.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Got it. Got it. That makes sense. That makes sense. And maybe just as a follow-up, and I don't want to spend too much time on this, but maybe you could just talk a little bit about the legal or the legal charge that you took, it looks like something in the Q around an ongoing situation with Cameron. Maybe you could just describe -- provide an update on that and thoughts on do you expect any more cost to put in the model as we think about the back half of the year?

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Will, what can I say on that?

William D. Marsh

Analyst

Well, I think we can start by letting them know the trial was delayed. We'll have some further disclosure on that in the 10-Q. So a lot of those expenses were gearing up for trial, which was delayed at the last minute. So there will be some more expenses in the back half of the year, but it's just hard to predict how the litigation may go.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Okay. And just what is the nature of the dispute?

William D. Marsh

Analyst

It's -- as we disclosed in the Q, it's an IP disclosure around the SafeLink -- IP dispute around the SafeLink product.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Gruber of Citigroup.

Scott Andrew Gruber

Analyst

It's good to hear, Scott, that PC margins should be troughing. I think that means you expect maybe some improvement into '26, even in a soft drilling market. Is that fair?

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

That's fair.

Scott Andrew Gruber

Analyst

Okay. And some color on...

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

We don't normally give guidance that far out, but all things being equal, that's very fair.

Scott Andrew Gruber

Analyst

No, I know. But you can appreciate there's a lot of moving pieces right now, and obviously, we just see the margins. But if we just assume drilling is kind of flat with the normal seasonality across 4Q, 1Q, but can you just provide a little more details on what could drive kind of grind higher in the margins? Is it tariff surcharges being passed along? Is it Vietnam ramping up? Just some more color on what could drive some improvement.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

You're paying excellent attention. It's more expansive cost recovery benefits. It is the migration to Vietnam. So even though Vietnam currently is 50% incremental, it's still below the absolute 95% coming out of China. So that certainly is a tailwind for us. I think it also has to do with -- and we haven't disclosed the impact of that. But if you followed us from the very beginning, we're pretty aggressive in terms of rightsizing. And so you'll begin to see the benefits of that rightsizing as they flow through our P&L. So it will be pretty significant.

Scott Andrew Gruber

Analyst

Got you. If I could sneak one more in. When do you think Vietnam will be in a position to fully take on the former Chinese mode?

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Yes. We believe that that will be the coming summer.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Scott Bender, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.

Scott J. Bender

Analyst

Thank you all first for joining us. It's been pretty active Q2, as you know, both in terms of navigating this macro environment and the tariff environment as well as, of course, the announcement of the Baker deal. I think if we've learned anything, and I hope you have as well, it's the importance of this international diversification. So while international won't be immune to some of these oil price swings, they're going to be -- it's going to be far more stable and certainly long term, a much more resilient market than the domestic market. Although honestly, I am pretty optimistic about the U.S. Our market position is strong. Anyway, thank you very much. Everybody, have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.