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WESCO International, Inc. (WCC)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 23, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Lisa and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Anixter Third Quarter 2018 Results Conference Call. Thank you. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Lisa Gregory, Vice President of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Lisa Gregory

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Anixter's third quarter 2018 earnings conference call. With me today to discuss our financial results are Bill Galvin, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ted Dosch, Executive Vice President and CFO. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the line to take your questions. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements in today's presentation, which are subject to a number of factors that could cause Anixter's actual results to differ materially from what is indicated here. We do not undertake to update these statements and refer you to our SEC filings for more information. Today's presentation includes both GAAP and non-GAAP financial results, the reconciliation of which is detailed in our earnings release and in the accompanying slide presentation that is posted on our Investor Relations website. Now, I will turn the call over to Bill.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Thank you, Lisa. Good morning and thank you for joining today's call. This morning I'll provide an overview of our third quarter financial performance including sales and gross margin trends. I will then turn the call over to Ted to review our financial performance in more detail and provide additional thoughts on our outlook for the rest of the year. Following our prepared remarks, we will take your questions. During our comments we will reference the accompanying slide presentation for the third quarter posted up on our Investor Relations website. As you saw from this morning's release, we had a strong sales performance achieving record third quarter sales in all segments and delivering organic growth in all segments and geographies. This reflected excellent sales execution and is a testament to our value and the value we provide our customers on a daily basis. Let's look more closely on our results beginning with sales. As you see on Slide 5, sales in the quarter increased 8.1% to 2.2 billion which is the highest quarterly sales in our history. Adjusting for the impacts from the lower average price of copper, currency fluctuations and acquisitions, organic sales increased 7.4%. This was above our outlook range of 4% to 5% and was the highest organic sales growth in seven years. Sales growth was broad-based driven by an acceleration in our complex services and global projects business, our security acquisitions and strategic initiatives in each of the business. Our strong sales performance drove solid earnings. Third quarter 2018 GAAP earnings per diluted shares was $1.40 and adjusted earnings per diluted share increased 23.8% from prior year to $1.61. Let me now review our sales results by segment beginning with NSS. As shown on slide 6, record NSS quarterly sales of 1.1 billion, increased 8.5%. Current…

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Thanks, Bill and good morning everyone. Before we move into the details, I do want to remind that today's earnings release includes non-GAAP measures which are reconciled to GAAP measures in the financial tables that accompany our release are in the appendix of our accompanying slide presentation. We believe the non-GAAP measures we disclosed provide the best representation of our ongoing operational performance. Expanding on Bill's overview of our third quarter record sales performance, our operating expense leverage also contributed to our strong bottom line growth. Operating expense of $335 million compares to prior year operating expense of $316 million. Excluding the non-GAAP operating items detailed on page 11 of our release, adjusted operating expense increased 5.8% with nearly half of the increase in spend the result of the approximately $8 million in operating expenses of the acquired companies. Current quarter adjusted operating expense of 14.9% sales a 30 basis point improvement from prior year. In addition to the acquired company's operating expense, the increase in operating expense was driven by approximately $3 million in variable expense directly related to the higher volume as well as $4 million from inflationary impacts which was primarily higher freight and medical cost and an additional $3 million from investments in our growth initiatives including our ongoing investment in technology. While still a year-over-year headwind, our initiatives to offset freight increases are beginning to mitigate the impact. In the first half of 2018 our freight expense as a percentage of sales increased by 20 basis points. In the third quarter the year-over-year increase diminished to 10 basis points due to the actions we've taken. As we look to the fourth quarter, we expect our operating expense will increase by approximately $6 million sequentially driven by higher employee benefits and technology investments. Adjusted EBITDA increased…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Shawn Harrison of Longbow Research. Your line is open.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

Good morning, everybody. Congrats on the results.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Thanks, Shawn.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Thanks, Shawn.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

Ted, I want to go back to the last comment just the OpEx investments, on a dollar basis, I think you highlighted $6 million into the fourth quarter sequentially. As you move into 2019, do you expect it to continue to grow on a dollar basis or will it begin to plateau and you'll see some offsets from some of the cost reduction initiatives you announced last quarter?

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Shawn, I think we will definitely see the benefit of the of the cost take out associated with restructuring initiatives and with the remainder of that benefit through the first half of next year. But we will continue to invest in innovation and our technology investments to improve the cost of our experiences as I refer to in my comments. It's a little to say what we think the full impact to that will be for 2019 going forward, but I think as we continue to drive growth across each of our businesses, we ought to able to drive operating expense leverage but from an absolute dollar standpoint. We would expect some of these investments to continue in the next year.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

I guess, in addition to the top line growth, may be your comment and Bill's comment that we'll start to see some gross margin expansion here into the fourth quarter. And then in 2019, how much gross margin expansion are we talking about it, is it 5 basis points or is it 10 basis points, because for better or worse, it's been a while since we've seen gross margin expansion.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Sure and great question. Again, I'd say, it's a little premature to comment on how much more for 2019, but we do expect see improvement here in Q4. We feel as we saw the trends across each of these three businesses, we think we clearly hit bottom in both NSS and EES. We do still have, as you saw in the numbers for UPS, we do still have a bit of a challenge there with a lot of the fixed price contracts and so forth and so live factor in passing on some of the price increases from products takes a little bit longer in that business. But I think we should see some gross margin improvement in the fourth quarter compared to Q3 at least in the 10 basis points to 20 basis points range.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

And Shawn, this is - as you know, this is something we've been working on for quite a while and it's not what we would consider quick hit things into long-term strategy of driving improvements across a lot of facets of the business. So, we're optimistic as we said in our notes that we're starting to see some of that benefit, and of course, that's a big part of the strategy and the plan for next year.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

Okay. Then lastly the OEM business, you highlighted the strength quarter, I know that business is tied to auto demand to an extent and we've seen weakening production globally. Are you seeing any weakness in the business? Or you seeing some offsets with share gains and expanded relationships that would mitigate some of the lower global auto production that's occurring?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yeah, it's good question, Shawn, we don't have the auto pieces is a big mix for us in that business, the market that we've seen a little bit of weakness is more on the chip manufacturing side of that which is a typical market phenomena right now. But there is strength in all - in so many of the other aspects and industries we're serving in that, that we're feeling pretty good about our approach and strength in that business.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Yes. And just to add to that Shawn. We clearly are taking share in that segment. So whatever weakness there is relatively speaking on auto as Bill said which is a smaller part of that OEM business and the weakness in the chip side and to clarify, when we say in the chip side, we're selling to the companies that manufacture equipment, OEM equipment into the chip manufacturers. We're not selling directly to chip manufacturers. But the growth that we've seen in our market share across virtually every other segment in that OEM space is more than offset some weakness in a couple of those areas.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

And Shawn, I'd also add that as we talked in the past, the focus on this services that we are providing to that industry is not - is a very strong part of that value proposition to that market. So, we are feeling good and we'll continue to look to invest and grow in that area.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

Perfect. And once again, congrats guys on the results.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yeah, thanks Shawn.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Allison Poliniak from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Mike McGann

Analyst

Good morning. This is Mike McGann stepping in for Allison. How are you?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Good morning, Mike.

Mike McGann

Analyst

Just a couple of quick questions, you guys cited project visibility. EES segment looked really positive from a leverage standpoint. I was hoping you could touch upon maybe any product scope changes you are increasing - or seeing with the tariffs either positive or negative and how that playing out for the balance of the year and maybe into 2019?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yeah, as it relates to the projects, Mike, I would tell you that the tariff play that we see comes from supplier impact on their products. We're not getting direct impact on it as we said in the notes; I think though that the time which we get notifications from the suppliers and that business allows us to move a lot of that price into the market. There is some elasticity to that where there's a time frame when our inventory might be in different price and whatnot, but we are typically able to manage through that and since we've started seeing some of that volatility and not just in tariffs, but in freight costs and things like that. We've been working really hard to move that into the market on a quicker time basis. So I think we'll have that cadence down pretty well and be able to manage through that.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Yeah, and Mike, maybe just to add another twist to that, If you think about what impact might higher tariffs have on the volume of project activity, we are not seeing any noticeable impact or decline or softness in project activity due to the impact of tariffs on the input costs. Now, ultimately, it could - it could ultimately reach that at some point because who knows where the end game is on tariffs which based on what's actually been implemented into the marketplace at this point in time, we don't see or anticipate any negative impact on the overall demand side.

Mike McGann

Analyst

All right. And then just second one from me, I'll hand it over. In terms of the sales guidance, great outperformance this quarter increased the bottom end of the range for the full year. I'm just wondering what were the big surprises? And then heading into the Q4, the comp is tougher, billing days look the same, but - I mean, is this - are you firmly - you think that the top end of this full year range now considering the momentum or - what are the puts and takes there?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yeah, Mike, I think you read it right. The top comps from last year put us in a pretty strong need to have good growth in the fourth quarter, right. So when you average that out and add that in, you look at it and say okay, that means the trends will continue on similar basis and translate based on that comp from fourth quarter last year into the range that we provided.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Yeah, and I would just add to that. Yes, I think you said it right Mike, the number of days in each quarter is identical year-over-year, so there isn't a projected impact of shipping days, but Q4 from a seasonality standpoint always is a little weaker than Q3, not just because there is projected to be won by shipping day, but just the seasonality within UPS. There's less project spend by the big utilities due to colder weather and then also to a certain degree in EES as well from a project spend standpoint. But despite that to Bill's point, the projected growth that we're talking on here in Q4 on top of last year's Q4 growth would deliver a cumulative two year growth pretty much identical to what we had in Q3.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yeah, Mike just one more color on that in the NSS business too you see a lot of retail companies that shut down projects in the November, December timeframes obviously getting ready for their busy season, so you will see that kind of impact, but again based on everything we're seeing in the trending of the business, we're comfortable on the range we provided.

Mike McGann

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of David Manthey from Baird. Your line is open.

David Manthey

Analyst

Good morning. First question, the third quarter OpEx being flat quarter-to-quarter despite adding 8 million from acquisition was a pretty good outcome I think. But I'm a little surprised by you saying that you think SG&A now is going to be up by 6 million into the fourth quarter. I assume that includes 2 million of benefits from the restructuring. It just seems like trends that we haven't seen historically normally seems like the pattern is flat to down slightly on the weaker revenue quarter. Can you talk a little bit about why you think operating expenses are going to be up in the fourth quarter?

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Sure Dave, certainly a valid question. First off, the medical expense will be up even further in the fourth quarter. So we've got not only the trend continuing here, what we saw in Q3, but on a year-over-year basis will be up a couple of million dollars more and that's a reflection of the broader inflation from a medical expense standpoint. And again despite all the initiatives that we have and I think we do a pretty good job in managing the structure of our programs and plans. This is the broader medical cost inflation. In addition to that as we mentioned just a moment ago, we do expect to continue our investments in driving innovation and technology and that might sound like a little bit different terminology than what we said in past years. We've been referring to our digital marketing initiative which we said would be many year investments and platforms and so forth, but it's really broader than that if we look at trying to further improve the customer experience whether it's the online experience, whether it's mobile apps et cetera that we believe are so critical in enabling us to provide the value add services that we do for our customers.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

David, I'll add another piece to that too. As you saw in our notes the EES business has had tremendous expense control if you will, but at this point you see effect of growth we're experiencing there. We need to invest more in that growth and when we saw as a positive for us long-term, but it's definitely an area that we got to put some focus on to continue the trend.

David Manthey

Analyst

So as you think about these investments, do you view them as the cost of playing the game or do you view them as you're giving out in front and they're going to translate to faster sales growth and more profitable growth? It sounds like some of these things you're talking about, I'm not clear that they're going to drive incremental profitable growth for you, am I hearing that wrong?

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Yeah, I'll tell you, if you want to be in this game you'll have to provide better tools to the customers. So we are looking at this as necessary to give the type of experience that customers are requiring in the market we're in today and I think it's a common shift you in the distribution business anyways. Everyone's looking at more efficient ways to do that and we have to invest in technology to do that. We think long-term that puts us in a growth position as well as long-term Dave we've talked getting more expense leverage and part of that is also using systems to allow that to happen, but that happens overtime. So I think it's the combination of those things.

David Manthey

Analyst

Okay and Bill you mentioned expense leverage and earnings leverage and when you look at the current quarter, there wasn't a whole lot of it and I'm just wondering as you think about the outlook for 2019, are you going to hit an inflection point here that if you continue to grow mid-single digits you can start to see that 1.5 to 2 times leverage again or is there some reason that the tariffs and some of these investments and things that you won't be able to achieve that level?

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Yeah, Dave, let me take a shot at that. So in the quarter we did have about 30 basis points improvement in the operating expense as a percent of sale. Going forward, with these kinds of investments we're talking about, I don't think we're going to be in the 1.5 to 2 range. I think it will be aimed at mid single digit top line growth. I think it will be more in the 1.5 type of range, but not pushing to it.

David Manthey

Analyst

Okay, thanks very much guys.

Theodore Dosch

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we have no further questions in queue. I will turn the call back to the presenters for closing remarks.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Great, that concludes today's call. If you have additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to Ted or Lisa. As always, thank you for listening to today's call.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.