Earnings Labs

Vista Gold Corp. (VGZ)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Mon, May 1, 2023

$2.12

-3.64%

Key Takeaways · AI generated
AI summary not yet generated for this transcript. Generation in progress for older transcripts; check back soon, or browse the full transcript below.
Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Vista Gold's First Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Today is Monday, May 1, 2023. It's now my pleasure to introduce Pamela Solly, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Pamela Solly

Analyst

Thank you, Jenny, and good day, everyone. Thank you for joining the Vista Gold Corp. first quarter 2023 financial results and corporate update conference call. I'm Pamela Solly, Vice President of Investor Relations. On the call today is Fred Earnest, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Doug Tobler, Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results, performance or achievements of Vista to be materially different from results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such statements. Please refer to our most recently filed Form 10-Q for details of risks and other important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to Fred Earnest.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Thank you, Pam, and thank you everyone for joining us on the call today. During the first quarter, we completed an internal scoping study to evaluate the technical and economic merits of smaller scale development alternatives from Mount Todd, while preserving the opportunity for subsequent expansion or stage development. The work completed in the study leverages off of the 2022 feasibility study and gives us confidence that a smaller and easier to build initial phase of the project is viable and economically attractive. We recently announced results of the Mount Todd surface exploration program, the retirement of two of our directors and positive recommendations from the Northern Territories mineral development task force regarding the Northern Territories royalty structure. The strategic process with CIBC Capital Markets is ongoing and we continue to take actions to implement cost reductions, which have had a positive impact on our quarter and financial position. Vista continues to have no debt. We remain committed to the health and safety of our employees and to environmental stewardship at Mount Todd. There have been no loss time incidents this year and the site has now achieved 523 consecutive accident free days. I will discuss these topics in greater detail later in the call, but will now turn the time over to Doug Tobler, our CFO, for a review of our financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2023.

Douglas Tobler

Analyst

Thank you, Fred. Today, I'll provide a brief recap of our results of operations for the first quarter of 2023 and discuss our financial position as of March 31. Vista Gold's financial statements and MD&A are included in our Form 10-Q that was filed last Friday, and is available at either sec.gov or sedar.com. I'm pleased to report that our results were in line with management's expectations for the quarter, and recurring costs are tracking toward our objective of achieving a 7% reduction compared to our 2022 results. From an overall perspective, we reported consolidated net losses for the three months ended March 31, '23 and '22 of $2 million and $300,000, respectively. The higher loss for the current quarter resulted from a few main components. First, we had a one-time gain of $2.9 million during the first quarter of 2022, which was realized as we closed out the sale of our interest in the Awak Mas project in Indonesia. There were no similar items this year. Offsetting this change in realized gain, we saw substantially lower expenses during Q1 of 2023. Notably, Mount Todd exploration and holding costs decreased by $1 million from $1.8 million reported for Q1 of '22, down to $800,000 for Q1 of '23. This related largely to having completed the drilling program and the Mount Todd feasibility study last year, plus overall reductions in our recurring costs in Australia. Our administrative expenses were also down to $1.2 million for the current quarter compared to $1.4 million for Q1 of 2022. Turning to our financial position. Our balance sheet remained in good condition at March 31, 2023. We ended with cash of $6.6 million and maintained our position of having no debt. That concludes my remarks for today. I'll turn the call back to Fred now.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Thank you, Doug. I'll begin with a review of our ESG initiatives and performance, then review our first quarter 2023 achievements, and conclude with an outlook for the remainder of this year. We have established a record of environmental leadership in the Northern Territory. We continue to maintain this leadership position through the execution of our site management plans. With the wet season recently concluded, I'm pleased to report that even with significantly higher than normal total rainfall, we had no unplanned discharges of water from the site, and we're in complete compliance with our environmental obligations. As noted previously, our team in Australia has now completed 523 consecutive days with no lost time accidents. We are very pleased with our safety-oriented culture and the accomplishments of the team. We continue to maintain a strong working relationship with the traditional owners at Mount Todd. As many will know, we have agreements in place with the Jawoyn people and work very closely with them, and the leaders of the Jawoyn Association Aboriginal Corporation. Presently, we are collaborating with the board of the Jawoyn Association to finalize a cross cultural training program for employees and contractors at Mount Todd. We also work very closely with leaders and stakeholders in the Katherine area, and more broadly in the Northern Territory. I am pleased that our social license is firmly in place and strongly supported. We continue to aggressively pursue best governance practices across our organization, and are pleased with the inclusive atmosphere that is part of our culture. I note that during the quarter, we announced the retirement of two long serving directors, and the resizing of our Board. More on that in a moment. Moving on to some of our accomplishments during this quarter. In March, we announced the completion of an…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Your first question is from Heiko Ihle from H.C. Wainwright. Please ask your question.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Hi, Fred. How are you?

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

We are very well. Thank you, Heiko.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Excellent. A few weeks ago, you put out some release about surface exploration for additional gold targets at Mount Todd. And particularly at one point you mentioned 4 grams per tonne gold at the Irwins. Can you just sort of walk me and the other participants in this call for your plans there for the rest of the year, or in general I guess with exploration?

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Absolutely, Heiko. The work that we've done on the exploration licenses has started with a very broad ranging surface geology mapping. We have followed that up with magnetic surveys to some high level geophysical work to identify those areas where we see magnetic anomalies which are typically associated with intrusive, and hence the heat engine for gold deposits in the district. And then we follow that up with surface soil sampling on a grid pattern. And the initial work that is completed is done on a very broad spacing. And then as we have interesting results, we close in the spacing of the grid. We began to undertake some of that work of closing the spacing in last year. And these are soil samples collected on 25 meters centers and 100 by 100 grids sometimes. And the bottom line is that the results that we achieved while anomalous were very encouraging. Typically, as you're aware, we often see soil sample results in the parts per billion range. And that's very interesting when we see those results in the very surface soils to have soil samples in the four parts per million or 4 grams per tonne range is particularly interesting. And we'll be doing some more work in the areas of some of these higher grade samples, as well as continuing to reach out and close in spacing where we've had other results in the past. Our team last year also did some mapping of outcrops and collecting rock chips and we will be undertaking more work in those areas as well. Again, as I indicated this year, our target will be to spend the amount of money required to meet our exploration commitments to maintain the exploration licenses in good standing. We believe that this work continues to demonstrate to potential partners and others who would be interested in attraction [ph] at Mount Todd that there's tremendous exploration upside. And we continue to be very bullish about the work that's going on. Again, this will be grassroots level exploration. We have not yet progressed any of these targets to the point of bringing in a drill rig.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Helpful. Okay. Gold is at just under 2,000 right now. At some point, a trend becomes maybe the new normal. Walk us through the potential and what you see implications wise given the potential for a smaller scale development that you released about two months ago for the site? The way I look at it is for $250 million, I can build 150,000 to 200,000 ounces in production. Somebody is missing something. And maybe can you go through some color what you think the market is missing or misunderstanding or not giving you enough credit for?

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Absolutely, Heiko. The feasibility study that we completed for Mount Todd evaluated the Mount Todd project at a 17.5 million tonne per year rate, 50,000 tons per day. And all of the engineering and the designs associated with the feasibility study were targeted and undertaken with the idea of designing a project that would be very attractive to a senior gold producer. The capital expense of building that initial project while a large number for us at almost $900 million was actually a very capital efficient number, actually in the lowest quartile on a per ounce of gold produced over the life of the project basis compared to our peers. However, the fact remained that it was a very large number. And so with the feedback that we received from the process that was initiated by CIBC Capital Markets a year ago, we undertook an internal level scoping study to evaluate what a project that's built at a smaller scale and more to, I think the best term would be fit for purpose design level might look like. I and several members of the team visited some smaller scale Australian operations the middle of the year last year, and formulated some ideas about what the standards might look like and what a typical mid tier or smaller Australian company would use as a design criteria. We then brought in a new engineering firm who had not been extensively involved in the design of the feasibility study plant to redesign the process plant area using concepts that we gleaned from visiting other operations. This has allowed us to design an operation that smaller could be built more quickly and more efficiently. And as we indicated, at this smaller scale, the capital cost is estimated to be less than $350 million. Now…

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

That's helpful. I appreciate it. I'll get back in queue. That was very extensive answer, and I'm grateful. Well done getting all this ad hoc here. Thank you.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Thank you, Heiko.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Your next question is from Adrian Day from Adrian Day Asset Management. Please ask your question.

Adrian Day

Analyst

Yes. Good afternoon. I've actually got two questions to follow on from Heiko's. The first one is, can you quantify the cost of the exploration that you intend to do this year?

Douglas Tobler

Analyst

Yes. Hi, it's Doug Tobler here. It will be in the range of about $200,000 as part of our planned spend.

Adrian Day

Analyst

Okay. That's not a lot.

Douglas Tobler

Analyst

Yes. Well, it's surface work. There's no drill rig, so similar size and scale.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Yes, you can get a lot of surface soil sampling done for $200,000, Adrian.

Adrian Day

Analyst

Okay, good. Let me just type that. And then the second question, so it's been a little over a year since the definitive feasibility study. And I'm wondering if you can reflect or let us know the reactions you've had from companies or reaction you've had, I should say, both to the DFS and also to the scoping study? Are there things in the reaction that have pleased you? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but the number of companies, the variety of companies, or whatever? And are there things about the reaction that have frustrated or disappointed you?

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Well, that's a very interesting question, Adrian. From day one, we have dealt with a headwind of people who remember Mount Todd from 1996-97 when it was operated in a gold price environment that the gold price was in the range of $300. And the operation shut down and the company who owned it went into bankruptcy. We've made a very significant investment. We very systematically and methodically completed test work and drilling and engineering. We've obtained all of the permits. We've worked hard on our social license. And I think that the gratifying thing for everyone here in the Vista team is that as we've gone through the due diligence process with a number of companies, the work that has been completed has been validated. The technical designs, the process flow sheet, the work that we've done to address how we crush and grind the hard rock that Mount Todd is so widely known for have all received very strong endorsement from companies who have taken the time to look at the data and review the test work. We've had companies come in and drill at their own expense to obtain fresh rock for their own metallurgical testing programs. And they have essentially confirmed that with our proposed flow sheet that the numbers -- the recoveries that we're proposing are quite reasonable and achievable, that the process flow sheet should function as we expect it to. Companies with much greater, larger resources, more people have been very complementary of the work that we have done in the local community to garner support for the project and to earn our social license. They are very respectful of the work that we've done with the Jawoyn Aboriginal people. And so the process that we've gone through has been the confirmation that…

Adrian Day

Analyst

Okay, that's really helpful. Thank you.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Thank you for the question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions].

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

Jenny, it appears that we have no other questions.

Operator

Operator

Yes, sir. There are no further questions at this time. Please go ahead.

Frederick Earnest

Analyst

All right. Well, thank you everyone for taking time to join us for this update and discussion of our first quarter results. We're very excited about the implications of the recommendations of the Northern Territory's mineral development taskforce, the potential impact of reducing the effective ad valorem rate from 7% to 9% that we saw in the feasibility study under a different royalty regime to something more competitive with other jurisdictions has tremendous impact for the project. As we've discussed in response to questions, the field exploration programs will be kicking off soon with the onset of the dry season. We're very pleased with the progress that's being made at Mount Todd in those regards. We're very pleased with our track record for environmental compliance, health and safety of our employees. And we look forward to moving forward with the newly configured Board of Directors as we seek to and focus on maximizing shareholder value. Again, we reiterate that our work with CIBC Capital Markets is focused on generating the realization of the maximum value, full value for the Mount Todd project, and that we'll continue to hold the line on that. While there were questions about developing Mount Todd at a smaller scale, I wish to reiterate that we have no intentions at this time to develop Mount Todd on our own. We see that there's better ways to generate value for shareholders through being patient and waiting for the right transaction. With that, I'll conclude our remarks. We thank you for your time and interest. We invite you to seriously consider either increasing your position in Vista Gold or initiating a holding, and we look forward to seeing all of you and meeting you and having you as shareholders. And with that, we wish you all a pleasant day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now ended. Thank you all for participating. You may all disconnect.