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Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, May 9, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Visteon's First Quarter 2013 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Before we begin this morning's conference call, I'd like to remind you this presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results and conditions but rather are subject to various factors, risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in these statements. Please refer to the slide entitled Forward-Looking Information for further information. Presentation materials for today’s call were posted on Visteon's website this morning. Please visit www.visteon.com/earnings to download the material if you have not already done so. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Scott Deitz, representing Investor Relations for Visteon Corporation. Mr. Deitz, you may begin.

Scott Deitz

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Thank you, Montserrat. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate everybody taking the time to join us for our review of the first quarter of 2013. We'll provide a recap of our results and insights associated with our overall performance and some sense of what we see ahead. As Montserrat mentioned, the presentation deck associated with today's call is posted on the Visteon website within the IR section. And again just a reminder that our website is visteon.com. Also the 10-Q was filed earlier this morning with the news release. With us today are Tim Leuliette, Visteon President and CEO; and Jeff Stafeil, Visteon's CFO. I'm pleased to report that Visteon's Vice President and Treasurer, Bob Krakowiak, is also joining today's call. I'm delighted to report that Bob will be adding Visteon Investor Relations to his day-to-day responsibilities in the next few days. Just by way of background, it's been my pleasure to advise Visteon on IR during the past 13 months in the role I play at Fleishman-Hillard. And I'm grateful to have had this opportunity and to talk with and get to know many of you in the process. I've known Bob for many years. We worked together elsewhere. And I can report firsthand that his business credentials are solid and that he has a passion for and understands the best practices associated with IR. Bob joined Visteon in early 2012. He has successfully led the treasury function and managed several value-creating financial actions. You will absolutely benefit from Bob's more than 20 years of senior financial, operating and engineering leader. He is a dear friend and absolutely a rock-solid pro. The transition of IR to Bob will be orderly. It begins today, and I'll continue to remain in the background and provide help when called upon. A more formal note will come out with his contact information. Now on to more important things on to the call. As you'd expect, following Tim and Jeff's prepared remarks, we'll turn to your questions. Again thanks for joining us. And now I'll turn it over to Tim.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

Thank you, Scott, and again welcome, everyone. And let me say thank you to Scott for the support you've given me since my arrival. And Bob, thank you for taking on the assignment. We look forward to our future together. Let's start with Page 2 of our deck and the highlights of the quarter. We are not where we want to be long term. We have not achieved the operating performance or the revenue stream we want to achieve and can achieve. But for the first quarter of 2013, for the 9 months into our journey here, this is a good quarter. Let's start by looking at revenue of $1.9 billion. That's driven by obviously the things you would expect, strength in Europe -- excuse me, strength in Asia and strength in North America. But fundamentally here, I think an important element for investors to know is that excluding Interiors, which we talk about separately, the remainder of Visteon saw revenue in Europe up year-over-year. And we're seeing that impact, and I'll talk a little bit about this later, of technology and obviously content changes increasing our revenue across the board. EBITDA was strong at $170 million for the quarter. On a net income basis, you see that we have had a tax proceeding that was favorable to us. We continue to work through the process, where we deal with a lot of foreign jurisdictions over time. We are comfortable at receiving and getting some adjustments in our tax position, which occurred this year -- or this quarter, which was a favorable event, and we generated some good cash. We generated cash, not only on an adjusted basis but including the free cash flow after looking at things like transaction and restructuring expenses. So from that perspective, I think, a…

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · UBS

Great. Thanks, Tim. I'll start on Slide 15, where we present our key financial results for the quarter of 2013 compared with the first quarter of 2012. As Tim said, clearly you can see we had a good quarter to start the year as we meaningfully improved versus prior year on all our key metrics. As we explained on prior calls, our financial results are impacted by a number of items that make year-over-year comparisons difficult. The adjusted financial information presented on this slide excludes these items. As non-GAAP financial measures, this adjusted financial information is reconciled to U.S. GAAP financials in the attached appendix on Pages 27 through 29. I will discuss all these metrics more on the following pages. Turning to Slide 16. Taking a look at our consolidated sales and adjusted EBITDA. Sales were $1.9 billion during the first quarter of 2013 or $139 million better than the first quarter of 2012. The increase was driven by higher sales in Asia, North America and South America. Meanwhile, our adjusted EBITDA was $170 million in the quarter, up $27 million versus the first quarter of 2012 and primarily reflects higher volumes, partially offset by increased product development cost. Product development cost increased $14 million year-over-year, reflecting investment to support future growth, as well as lower engineering recoveries from our customers. The recognition of engineering cost recoveries tends to be uneven throughout the year and were low in the first quarter of 2013. For the full year, we are still projecting slightly over $100 million of recoveries, of which approximately 12% were received in the first quarter. Commercial agreements, which had a material impact in the fourth quarter of 2012, were significantly less than the first quarter. In total, commercial agreements benefited first quarter by $7 million, $2 million…

Scott Deitz

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Thank you, Jeff. Montserrat, I see we've already got 5 people who have jumped in, eager to ask questions. Let's poll the audience for others.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Colin Langan with UBS.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

Any color on the latest status of the Interior sale? Is that progressing well? Do you think you'll be able to get that done by the end of the year?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

As you know, when we get to the M&A side of the story, we typically do not get public about that until there's something to announce. Obviously, I think the fundamental position on Interiors was stated on our strategic template for 2013, which was to divest Interiors. And I think that is -- you can assume that, that's our work plan. And when there's something to announce, we will.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

Okay. And any thoughts -- I mean, you highlighted pretty clearly in the presentation the very big disconnect between Halla share price and your price. Any thoughts of what might be driving that? I mean, it does seem very unusual.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

It is and it isn't. I mean, I kind of chuckled the other day. I noticed 2 events. One was that they talked about Chinese vehicle sales, which impact not only YFV but Halla quite significantly. We're up 17% and our stock never moved. And then there was 165,000 new jobs in the United States. The whole market went up, including us. For that, we still, I think -- and part of our message, and you've heard this from me in the past, is that there still is a U.S.-centric view of the auto stocks, and that's 9% or so of our revenue base in absolute sense. So I don't know if yet we've convinced or connected or communicated effectively enough about the non-U.S. portion of our business and how important that is and how that's a growth and driving story. I think it's a part of the maturation of the investment base and it's part of the maturation of probably the investment cycle here in the U.S. to be more Asian-focused. It's going to take some time. And all we can do here is highlight that and make sure every time we talk that people understand the underlying value components of this stock and this company. We are an Asian story. We will be an Asian story. And we are more driven by the expansion and growth of Asia than we are whether there was 160,000 jobs created 1 month or not in the United States. But at this point, we're still -- our stock is being driven more by the latter than the former. We will continue to communicate. We will continue to tell that story. And hopefully at some point, they start to connect.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

Okay. And what about looking at the opportunity to cut SG&A? It sounds like a lot of actions were actually taken in the first quarter. How much more is there to go? Or are we going to see it now kind of run the year now that the actions are taken?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

When you get back to -- and I'll turn this over to Jeff for color. But when you go back, we did lay out a template back, I think, at the Deutsche conference in January 15 of a kind of a footprint of where we're going to take SG&A. You saw that I think SG&A was down, I think, 50 basis points quarter-to-quarter, year-over-year. As we grow, we obviously pick up some SG&A, but we still have a target and a game plan to deliver on that. And Jeff, you want to expand upon that?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · UBS

Yes. I'd say in total there's more room for us definitely to decrease our SG&A base globally. I'd say over the coming quarters, there will be a little bit of noise as we look at SG&A as a percentage of sales and in total as we look to make Halla more independent and absorb the extra facilities they have and take away some of the admin we probably have in other regions of the world. But I'd say the Deutsche Bank presentation and the road map we created for SG&A on that page is still probably the best document we have to give you insight for our intentions.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

We see -- just to finish. We see no reason why we still can't continue down that path. The growth is good and the growth brings with it some SG&A, just by definition. But our game plan is still in place. And you saw some actions there in the first quarter. Those actions are not just at the working level but up through all the way through the corporation. I think the fact that since December 31 we have reduced the corporate officer account by 30% is a statement of our desire to address all aspects of that cost base and we are continuing to do so.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

And in the Electronics book, you mentioned that it was impacted by the allocation of some overhead that was formally in Climate. So is that, that you're getting a better understanding of where the costs actually reside? Or is that still trying to allocate between the buckets, where those SG&A costs...

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · UBS

Yes. And Colin, that's our major opportunity and sort of short-term obstacle as well. But we have a large pool of corporate overhead that as we have discussed in the past existed to support a much larger Visteon. Historically, all of that overhead was allocated to every business, including historically, we allocated quite a bit of it to Halla, even though Halla never paid for a lot of those expenses. What we have done now is we just allocate to Halla what they actually pay for and what we have agreed documents with Halla to pay for, for services provided. And although we've cut the pool, there's just more that has to be allocated to both Interiors and to Electronics right now. We've left a small residual in corporate, but we think that there's quite a bit more opportunity to continue to reduce that overhead burden over time. But some of that will take a little bit of time.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · UBS

From a business unit perspective, Colin, and again I think Jeff mentioned earlier, as you create a standalone-capable Halla Visteon, it picks up some of this infrastructure cost before it is reduced at corporate level. There's some noise quarter-to-quarter. But ultimately, it's a very simple mathematical exercise. They pay for it and it's here, or they don't pay for and it's gone. And there will be a very small, very focused corporate group left necessary to manage these businesses. But the product lines have to carry it. And as you go quarter-to-quarter, there's some noise as we continue the process of cleanup. But it's clearly in line with our objectives. And I don't see any -- or any reason why that the goals, as we said, that we outlined in the Deutsche conference can't be met.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan. Ryan Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: All right, okay. So my first question just simply relates to the decision to only reaffirm full year guidance. So 12 of the 14 auto parts companies that we cover and that have reported 1Q earnings thus far have beaten. But only 3 of them flowed through that beat to the full year. So it's certainly understandable not to raise guidance, whether it's just because it's only 1 quarter under the belt or there's a lot of macro uncertainty out there. But given the magnitude of your 1Q beat, I think some investors might wonder why you didn't flow at least some through. So it might be helpful if you could just provide a little bit of color there, whether the decision is some sort of reflection of pulling earnings ahead or significantly different than expected earnings cadence relative to Street, or is instead just simply related to conservatism.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan

Again thank you for the comments, Ryan. And let me say this that 1 quarter is -- does not make a year. And I think all of us here looking at the dynamics of the macro environment, not specifically Visteon itself but looking at Europe and looking at Asia and everything else, have said look, we're very pleased with our first quarter. We're very happy with that first quarter. It was much stronger than we expected. Let's sort of just take a deep breath. Let's see how the second quarter progresses. And then we'll go forward. We do have and did establish, I think, a fairly broad range of performance targets for the year. And so therefore, there was -- it wasn't exactly a specific target. We did have a broader range, and I think we're comfortable with that range at this point. But I would suspect that at the end of second quarter, that will be a good time for us to go back and reassess our guidance and clearly we'll do so. But I just think it's part of the scar tissue of history and time is not to go jump around every quarter and move guidance. Let's just sort of get another 3 months under our belt, then we'll go back and take a look at it. Ryan Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay. That's great. That's actually really helpful, what I was looking for. Next question is just you repurchased way more stock than we'd expected during the quarter, really almost half of your authorization. So should the faster pace be interpreted as potentially hinting at any potential increase to the authorization? What are the latest terms? And what's the latest thinking in terms of the timing of remaining purchases and whether you might in fact maybe be wanting to do some more beyond that?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan

Jeff?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan

Yes, I mean, I thought we saw there was an opportunity in Q1. We felt that as we had put out some fairly strong guidance at the beginning of the year, we thought the time was right to jump on, I'd say, a larger share repurchase during the quarter. And we were happy that it executed well. Right now, I'd say our plans haven't changed. We still have a fairly large sizable authorization of another $125 million. We have quite a bit of time to do it, but we'll continue to be opportunistic as we look at it going forward. Ryan Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay. Great. And then just maybe a final question. To follow up on the earlier question about that dichotomy between the trend in HVCC and VC share price, you mentioned that communication and investor education is sort of currently the primary tack that you're taking. But are there any other potential actions, other potential levers that are within your control that you think might also be helpful? So for example, a potential Hong Kong listing, which is, I think, maybe had been bandied about from time to time. Is there any thought that something along those lines could potentially accelerate the appreciation, not just for Halla but for your other significant Asian assets as well? Any updated thoughts there?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan

I guess, I will stick with the comment that I've made, I think, here consistently, and that is we will pursue all options to optimize shareholder value. And that includes where we list, how we list, all aspects should be on the table because there's no reason in the world that our shareholders should carry a penalty because of perhaps where they list. I think the issue here is we focus first on education, we focus first on communication. But I don't want to take any cards off the table at this point.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Brian Johnson with Barclays.

Brian Arthur Johnson - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

I want to focus, as opposed to just generally praising your business, on the Climate business. So stipulate that everything everyone else said, I just said. But in particular in Climate, those of us who were out in Korea saw a very impressive factory there. And I'm wondering this year-over-year margin improvement. How much is just from the volumes coming in off of your customers? And how much of it is from the early days of applying the Lean Manufacturing disciplines we saw in Korea to some of the Visteon factories that have now come under Halla management control?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Brian, a very good question. I would say very little of that is reflected in the quarter. But the plans -- a lot of the quarter was getting that transaction done and the teams integrated. And that's gone exceedingly well. And I'd say they've also put together very nice plans to go and address a lot of opportunities to bring up the margin, especially at, we'll say, the new plants that they just bought from Visteon. A lot of those plans are really under way and start to bear a little bit of fruit in the second quarter but really will start to pick up pace farther into the year.

Brian Arthur Johnson - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Okay. And any kind of internal goals or goals you can share with us on [indiscernible] beyond the original synergies?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Yes. Brian, we provided some guidance back on the original strategy, I think, of 100 to 150 basis points of margin improvement. And I think that's still our goal. And I think it's still realistic as we look at it today.

Brian Arthur Johnson - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Okay. But as I recall, was that a lot from -- how much of that 100, 150 was SG&A and redundancies versus actual Lean Manufacturing improvements?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

I think we said gross margin, so no SG&A in that number.

Brian Arthur Johnson - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Okay. And second, you kind of had a comment buried down there on Electronics and kind of taking into account the cockpit electronics businesses. Does that indicate any kind of shift in your thinking on Electronics from maybe being a seller to a potential consolidator? Or is that just kind of noting what you said all along that this is an industry that could consolidate?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

I think there's no change in our strategic direction here. We see Electronics as being currently suboptimal in size. And that does not imply that a sell is imminent or anything else. But at this point that there's some strategic options we should probably pursue. As with all businesses here, there are both tactical and strategic needs. And in the case of cockpit electronics, it is one of the hottest areas of the automotive business. We've got a very interesting and dynamic position there and a very strong intellectual property position there. So I would suspect that over time, you'll start hearing more strategic discussion around options that we have there. But at this point, the focus on the first quarter, it was focusing some manufacturing in Europe. We need some floor space in our Climate operations. And they used to jointly produce in a single site. And we just need to focus and expand our footprint in Europe. And this is part of some relocation of manufacturing there, which will be a bit of a drag also in the second quarter but should probably be done by the end of -- by the third quarter.

Brian Arthur Johnson - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

Okay. And just one last question on cockpit electronics. Is there any way you could dimension for us or maybe name some customer or type of platforms if you have them, where you're doing reconfigurable electronic dashboards as opposed to analogs? I'm just trying to figure out what your starting point, as that moves from the center screen to flat-screen dashboards.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

I don't think we've announced the customer names, but we have announced that we have won some platforms in Europe. And I'll have to leave it at that because we don't announce unless a customer announces on that.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

But we have good content.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Brian Johnson with Barclays

But we have good content across a number of European, Japanese, Asian, North American customers, and that will be expanding going forward. I want to say that the Electronics business is a very attractive business, but it's not a business that I think that, and I want to again reinforce a statement I've made in the past, that we're not going to go leverage the Visteon balance sheet to go make a larger statement there. But we will explore other options.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Stover with Guggenheim.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

A number of them have been addressed. But I guess, 2 detail questions, and then a follow-on to Brian's line of questioning. First, are we on target for a YFV filing here to disclose the results? Any sort of time frame for that filing?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

Yes. Yes and yes. I think yes, we're on target and we have plans. And I think that timing is end of second quarter, so end of June.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

Okay. On the raw materials side, was there any impact in, I guess, I'd think about the Electronics business, but any of the businesses year-to-year?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

Not beyond noise level, nothing of significance.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

[indiscernible] well, I'd say, in the quarter.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

Okay. And then if I -- so since last quarter, I guess, just to follow on Brian's question, JCI has announced a decision to sell their electronics business, given that business is going to require, from their perspective, a significant investment to meet the future needs of customers' plans. So what do you think about that observation? And what does it imply to your sort of investment plans and kind of the slope of the investment plans to ensure that your asset maintains its relative competitive positioning?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

It's a good question. We are obviously aware of the JCI announcement. Each of us in this business brings a different footprint of assets. And each of those have a different CapEx engineering mix. Our particular mix of product is more software-intensive than hardware-intensive. Our CapEx is in the 2% to 2.5% range. So when it comes to investment, we're talking about software investment, engineering investment, not capital investment. And as I've said in the past, we've got a business here that is generating, can generate 8%, 9% EBITDA margins with a 2% CapEx -- 2%, 2.5% CapEx at a 12% to 14% growth rate. That's a story that we like and we know we're competitive in and the marketplaces tell us we're very competitive, given our business awards. So we have a different footprint and a different opportunity set perhaps than JCI. They have one different than us. And everyone's got a different footprint. We're happy with what we have, except for its scale. And again, as I said, I've made a commitment that we're not going to leverage the Visteon balance sheet to solve or expand that business. But there are other ways to go get there, to increase value. We're looking at all options to increase the value. But we're very, very pleased with the reaction that business has and the competitiveness it has, given our investment footprint and engineering expense.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

I appreciate that thoughtful answer, Tim. When I think about the Electronics business, I guess, RD&E would be for me, to your point, sort of the big piece of the investment. And if there's -- from their perspective, it's a little bit nebulous, the commentary they're making. But there's a big change here in this business that would require a significant uptick in RD&E. Do you see that for your personal -- your own business as you think about kind of planning out the next 1 to 3 years?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Matthew Stover with Guggenheim

Well, remember, we're spending 12% of sales on RD&E with about 25% of that paid by the customer and reimbursed. So that's, that dynamic that you see that Jeff mentioned earlier that quarter-by-quarter, there's a lot of noise level of when those payments are received. And we don't see a need to go spend more than that. I think that's fine. Again remember, a lot of our engineering footprint is in India and other locations, it's not in the United States.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Just a couple of follow-ups. On the currency, I guess, it was a positive in the quarter. I'm on Slide 16. But you mentioned, Jeff, that you had some hedges that mitigated some of the moves there. And I'm just curious if the won stayed where it is now and based on what you've already have in place, would this be a significant part of the bridge for the full year?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

I don't think it'll move too much, and I don't have -- where are we, KRW 1,091? Is that the current rate? Yes, we have a fair amount hedged for the year, Kirk. So such that from a transactional standpoint, it might move margin around a little bit, but it shouldn't move our nominal EBITDA around too much.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Okay. Great. And then with respect to the guidance on Slide 23, I guess, the adjusted free cash flow guidance excludes restructuring and transaction-related cash, and I see the restructuring payments down below. What are the -- what amount of transaction-related cash has been excluded?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

It's on the bridge. I don't know if I have the number in my head. But I think if you look at the bridge in the appendices, you'll see it.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Okay. It's back there. Okay. And then the EBITDA guidance, is there any way that you -- I know you don't disclose the equity income and the minority interest that are embedded in that. But is there any kind of directional guidance you can give us from where we are?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Can you repeat that question again? I'm sorry, I was looking through to find your first question.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Sorry, the adjusted EBITDA guidance includes, as you know, equity interest and minority interest. And I know you don't disclose those pieces of the adjusted EBITDA guidance. But I'm just curious if you could talk a little bit about direction.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

I think we've given you a couple of pieces that I can help guide you to, Kirk. There's one -- there's a bridge in one of the appendices where we gave you an estimate of our expected increase in NCI year-over-year. And then I think at the Deutsche Bank conference, we said YFV was going to be up but only slightly this year in PAT primarily because of the launch expenses associated with the $1 billion or so revenue that they're launching here. So I think you can probably piece those things together to back out those from our guidance.

Scott Deitz

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Montserrat, this is Scott. I think I'll jump in and thank all of the participants, and thank you and your team for managing the call so nicely. With that, I'll turn it over to Tim for final thoughts.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Thank you, Scott. And again I want to thank all of you for your interest and support here at Visteon. I will say this, we're on a journey here. We have both a litany of tactical and strategic requirements that we are continuing to address as we go forward. We're at a stage where I will sit back and say I'm pleased with the team and the performance to date and Q1 was a solid quarter, but we're by no means done. And so we look forward to seeing you. I know we're going to be doing a tour here a bit, and we'll continue to have that open dialogue with you going forward. But we look forward to a good year and a good Q2. And we look forward to seeing you again. So thank you very much.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst · Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group

Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, with this, we conclude today's presentation. We thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.