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Marriott Vacations Worldwide Corporation (VAC)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 23, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Marriott Vacations Worldwide Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Jeff Hansen, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Jeff Hansen

Analyst

Thank you, Diego, and welcome to the Marriott Vacations Worldwide second quarter 2015 earnings conference call. I’m joined today by Steve Weisz, President and CEO; and John Geller, Executive Vice President and CFO. I do need to remind everyone that many of our comments today are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings, which could cause future results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward-looking statements in the press release that we issued this morning, along with our comments on this call, are effective only today, July 23, 2015 and will not be updated as actual events unfold. Throughout the call, we will make references to non-GAAP financial information. You can find a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures referred to in our remarks in the schedules attached to our press release, as well as the Investor Relations page on our Web site at ir.mvwc.com. I will now turn the call over to Steve Weisz, President and CEO of Marriott Vacations Worldwide.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our second quarter earnings call. Our second quarter performance was a continuation of what you have come to expect from us over the past several years. Our key metrics have continued to improve and our portfolio continues to expand with new destinations fueling our longer-term growth strategy. So let me spend a few minutes providing color on how we achieved our results, then I’m going to hand the call over to John to provide more details around those results and other areas of our financials. Adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter was $58 million, an increase of $1 million over the second quarter of 2014. Total company contract sales, excluding residential, increased $1.3 million, a 1% increase over prior year to $166 million. This was driven by our key growth segments of North America and Asia Pacific, which together grew contract sales in the quarter by almost $6 million or roughly 4% offset by $4 million of lower contract sales in our Europe segment. VPG improved slightly to $3,404 and tours again maintained their string of year-over-year improvement of 1.2% over the second quarter of 2014, as we continue to drive tour flow through programs designed to increase first-time buyer tours as well as to encourage our owners to increase their point levels. One of those programs, which we have talked about before, is the call transfer program with Marriott International. To-date, we have seen very positive sales metrics from these transfers and our work now revolves around expanding this program to increase our sales opportunities going forward. Additionally, we have had success building our future tour growth with our Encore Program, which allows someone who is not ready to purchase at the time of the tour to buy a…

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. The second quarter was another strong quarter of positive results, in line with our expectations with adjusted EBITDA coming in at nearly $58 million, an increase of $1 million year-over-year. Adjusted development margin was 21% for the company, in line with our full year target of 21% to 22% and for North America, adjusted development margin was 23%. VPG continued to grow reaching $3,404 in the second quarter and rental margin continued to perform well, up $4 million year-over-year. Contract sales in our North America segment increased $5 million or 3.4% to $151 million, driven by continued growth in both tour volume and VPG, which grew at 1.2% and six-tenths of a percent, respectively. VPG growth in the second quarter reflected improved closing efficiency and higher pricing, offset partially by a decline in the average number of points purchased. The decline in points purchased was a result of an increase in tours and sales to existing owners in the current period, which typically have lower average points per contract. This increase was driven by enhancements to our owner recognition levels that we introduced earlier this year that carried over into the second quarter. Adjusted development margin in the quarter was $32 million, down $3 million year-over-year. Second quarter adjusted development margin percentage was once again strong at 23%, however, this quarter’s margin percentage was down roughly 330 basis points from the second quarter of 2014 with roughly 90 basis points driven by higher product costs true-ups in last year’s second quarter. The remaining 240 basis points of decline related to sales and marketing expenses. As you know, in the latter part of 2014, we began ramping up our investment in new programs to help generate future incremental tour volumes, particularly as it related…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first comes from Steven Kent with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst

Good morning, Steve.

Steven Kent

Analyst

Good morning. A couple of questions for you. First off, the VPG number which gets a lot of focus from us and investors always shows some amount of volatility, and I just wanted to know – just review again, it sounded like there was a mix issue. Can you talk a little bit more about that and what drove the trends there? I know you’ve talked to it, but I still don’t understand it. And then maybe most importantly how do you measure yourself, your management team and your executives? Do you measure yourself on tour flow, on sales, on VPG? How are you compensated and how should we start to think about so many of these variables that are going to be moving around? And then one other thing which I don’t think you talked to today but I know you’ve talked to us in the past about is the ability to recycle or capture inventory from some of your existing owners and what initiatives do you have on that front?

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst

Okay. Let me – kind of in a reversal, this is Steve, let me kind of address two things. First of all, how do we measure performance, compensate people within the organization, et cetera? Clearly, within the sales and marketing organization, which is obviously where the question is centered around, they are based on several different things. They’re based on total volume and they are based on costs. At the end of the day, VPG is a quick way of looking at how you manage costs going forward. Obviously, if your VPG or the amount of volume that we get per tour goes up given the fixed cost nature of many of these tours, then as a result you get better gearing effect and better leverage and therefore your costs go down. So that’s a way in which they’re looked at. More broadly, the entire management organization is looked at from a development margin standpoint as one of the metrics that we focus on as a way of judging the annual performance targets, et cetera. As far as the question about what’s going on in terms of what’s driving VPG, keep in mind that there’s several different ways you think about this. Most importantly, it’s probably the mix of tours that you get between existing owners and first-time buyers. As I think we said before, first-time buyers have a tendency to have a higher volume per contract but a lower VPG and existing owners have the converse. They have a lower average contract but a higher VPG. And the determinant factor in both of those things is closing efficiency or the rate of the percentage of which you close. It’s just how it all mixes together to be honest, Steve, in this particular period. The other thing I’d point out is that while the VPG of only six-tenths of a percent growth in the quarter, it’s on top of 5% growth last year in the second quarter and 8% growth in the second quarter 2013. And year-to-date, our VPG is up 2.7%. When we started the year, we said we thought VPG growth would roughly be in line with inflation. I think we’re right on target with where we thought it would be. There will be some ebbs and flows on a quarter-to-quarter basis but I don’t think it’s of a material nature that one quarter is up or down. You may recall into the first quarter, it was up rather substantially.

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst

And then I think on the last question, Steve, you had just on recycling inventory, we’ll probably buy back whether that’s through COA defaults, which is a pretty low percentage of the inventory we buy back but more opportunistically in terms of owners that are looking to sell their time share. We’ll spend $50 million to $60 million this year and that will be at a product cost when we resell it significantly less than, call it, the 29%, 30% product cost that you see in our P&L from a system-wide perspective. So I think that pace probably seems about right. Obviously, as we continue to grow and the system continues to grow, it might increase but not necessarily greater than a percentage of the growth in the system, if you will. So, I mean that’s how we think about recycling that inventory.

Steven Kent

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Christopher Agnew with MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Hi, Chris.

Christopher Agnew

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Thanks very much. Good morning. I wanted to ask about rental income and you had a strong quarter and I think you talked about benefitting from opening two new phases. So can you just help me think through how those new phases impact the outlook for the rest of the year? And then is it fair to assume as you continue to add additional phases over the next couple of years that you’ll likely get a similar benefit when those are opened? Thanks.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Yes. So the first part of your question is obviously we opened the third tower in Las Vegas and the ninth phase of our project in Shadow Ridge late in the second quarter, early third quarter of last year. So, as we start to get towards the end of this year there will be more comparability between available inventory in the system than what there was in the first two quarters of the year, because that didn’t exists in the first two quarters of 2014. Having said all that, as we continue to add new projects, new phases, et cetera, there comes unsold developer inventory that we can put on the shelf and rent and I think as you saw in our Investor Day, we saw that there was some very meaningful improvement and what we think the rental results will be on a going forward basis. But one caveat in all that is when you have unsold developer inventory, you do have an offset in the rental P&L which is for unsold maintenance fees. Those maintenance fees are attached to every single week, whether it’s sold through an owner or that whether we own it. But on a net basis, we believe that there will be improvement in the rental margin going forward.

Christopher Agnew

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Got it, thanks. And going back to VPG a little bit, I don’t know how big the Encore Program is but I know you called out that that has higher VPG. Is that something that’s – I don’t know if you can give us some sort of context on the size of that, but is that going to be a driver of improving mix going forward?

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Well, we’re very pleased with the production of Encore packages and what that really translates to, Chris, is that there is – when someone takes a tour today, for whatever reason they choose not to purchase, we give them an opportunity to come back for another vacation with the notion, as it was mentioned in my remarks, that should they choose to buy when they return, then we take the cost of that package and we net it against their purchase price. That pipeline of potential tours coming from those Encore packages continues to grow. The one downside is we don’t know exactly when people will choose to plan their vacation, so we can’t exactly say, well, we know that this person who bought today will tour in six weeks or whatever it is. But we’re very encouraged by that. While we don’t disclose the premium that we get in VPG of Encore packages, let me just say to you that it is materially higher than what we see on a general average basis keeping in mind that some Encore packaged tours are included in our quarterly VPG announcement anyway.

Christopher Agnew

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Okay, got it. Thanks. And then final question and I apologize if I missed this, but John can you recap just around the accelerated share repurchase program? I’m not sure I missed your point there?

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Sure. Right at the end of the first quarter we did accelerated share repurchase of about $30 million and those programs have a tail on them, right, with the counterparty to buy their shares back. Typically, they don’t take the full period of time. This one went out the full 60 days. So for all intents and purposes we were really out of the open market buying even after the window opened up until late May. So, call it the 15 million that we bought back in the quarter was really the last month of the second quarter. So I think you got to look at it like the 30 million ASR that we did pull forward I think from a timing. That’s why from a year-to-date, we’re at call it 66 million. We’ve returned another 60 million in our two dividends. So on a full year run rate basis, you’re looking at we’re on track to return over $160 million, $170 million based on the current run rate. So I wouldn’t over read too much and it was our point in the buyback activity in the quarter.

Christopher Agnew

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · MKM Partners. Please state your questions.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bob LaFleur with JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Hi, Bob.

Robert LaFleur

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Hello. A question about the margins. John, you talked about the upward drift in sales and marketing as a percentage of revenues being related to ramping up your tour generation. I just wanted to kind of talk about that going forward, because it seems to me as you start adding these new properties to inventory and start building new sales centers, you’re going to have some additional upward pressure on that before the sales sort of catch up with the costs. So I was just wondering if you could talk about the dynamics going forward of sales and marketing.

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Sure, and Bob this is something we’ve been talking about. We’ve been successful over the last years. We’ve been ramping up the tour flow. We’ve had good VPG growth and that’s helped, as Steve described, how you’re more cost effective in terms of marketing and sales with better VPG. But the guidance we gave for the full year, the 21% to 22%, assume not only this investment but also there’s going to be as we’ve talked about start-up costs related to the new sales centers. We’ll articulate those. That really wasn’t a big impact here in the second quarter, but that is going to be some of the headwinds for the full year as we move to start to open those late this year, early next year. But to Steve’s point in his comments, we’ve included that in that 21% to 22% guidance for the year. So it’s something we said we’re going to continue to try and maximize, but on the flipside if we start to grow the top line and drive top line sales growth, we’ll drive the overall development margin in terms of growth. But it’s always that balance.

Robert LaFleur

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Are those additional costs related to sort of ramping up the tour flow? Were they sort of one-time in nature and does that recede a little bit once you kind of hit a pace or is that something that’s going to be consistently in that number going forward?

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Clearly, as we have continued to ramp things up, Bob, on a comparable basis to same time last year, yes, we’re spending more energy, more effort and more cost in trying to dial those things up, particularly as it relates to things like the call transfer program that we did with Marriott, which didn’t really pick up enough steam until last summer and then it began to grow further as we got into this year, et cetera. There will reach a point of equilibrium I believe where the cost going on and the cost coming off will kind of offset each other. So I think it’s more of a – we’ve gone from having limited new growth opportunity over the last several years in opening up new sales centers, et cetera, to kind of getting into the growth business once again. So there is some attendant related start-up activity that goes along with that, but I think you’ll start to see it level out.

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

And you also get the tours start showing up and the sales associated, which once again allows us to leverage the fixed portion of our marketing and sales costs and drive margin.

Robert LaFleur

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Okay, thanks. And one quick follow up on COGS this quarter. You were up, looks like 50 basis points company-wide and 90 basis points in North America. Was that the comp to the true-up last year or was there just a mix issue? What’s going on with COGS this quarter?

John E. Geller, Jr.

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Yes, it was the product costs true-up. That was about 90 basis points in North America. So last year had a benefit, if you will, versus this year. So just timing.

Robert LaFleur

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Okay, that’s all. Thanks, guys.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please state your questions.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I’ll turn the conference call back to management for closing remarks. Thank you.

Stephen P. Weisz

Analyst

Thank you very much for your questions and for your attention. Let me just close by saying we’ve had a solid first half of the year. I look forward to reporting on our continued success as we progress through the remainder of 2015. Thank you for your participation on the call today and your continued interest in Marriott Vacations Worldwide. And finally to everyone on the call and your families, enjoy your next vacation. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.