Martine A. Rothblatt
Analyst · Wedbush Securities
Thanks, Liana. Nice to hear to voice this morning, thanks for following us these years. We do look forward to continued growth in our Remodulin and Tyvaso outside the U.S. You're very much up-to-date on the figures. They've been in the range of around 15% FUS for Remodulin. But I think we're reaching an inflection point on that, a very positive inflection point. And that inflection point is the result of 3 different events outside the U.S. First of all we just recently achieved, after years of perseverance and persistence, approval for IV Remodulin in Europe. And I think this is going to be the same game changer in Europe that it was in the U.S. Just yesterday, it's interesting, John Ferrari and I were talking about the early years of Remodulin in the U.S. and how in the first 2 or 3 years when we only had subcu, growth was frankly fairly modest in the 2002 to 2005 timeframe. And then there was something about the IV approval, not only did it create a whole new area of revenue growth among IVs, but it also had the -- somehow had the effect of supercharging the subcu growth, as well. And I think we're going to see the same thing happen in Europe. With the approval in Europe, it takes another half year to 9 months to get all of your reimbursement approvals for the different countries. Those will be dropping into place during the balance of this year. So I think 2013 is the first full year of IV revenues that we'll see in Europe. And I believe it's going to have the same kind of transformative effect for Remodulin in Europe that it had here in the U.S. So that's one positive inflection. The second one is, we are feeling very confident that we are now within 12 months of receiving Remodulin approval in China, in the People's Republic of China. And as we all know from reading the newspapers and magazines and whatnot, the Chinese market for pharmaceuticals is growing very, very rapidly. I, for example, this is an anecdote, I was surprised to read in The Economist last week, that China's now the #1 market in the world for luxury goods. And you wouldn't really think that, but more Rollses and Bentleys are sold in China than in any other country, and on and on with other luxury goods. Well in a -- it's somewhat somber but, nevertheless, realistic sense, something like Remodulin is a luxury good for people with pulmonary hypertension because it is an advanced therapy, it's a pricey therapy. But we think that the fact that, over the past several years, we built up a great network of relationships with all of the main pulmonary arterial hypertension prescribers in China, those were amongst our lead enrollers in our oral treprostinil trials, that we know the prescribers, their centers very well. We have a great reputation with all of them because of all of the open-label continuation patients that we've kept going on oral treprostinil over in China. And I think, it all bodes very, very well for the take-up of IV and subcu Remodulin in China. It's, of course, also crucial that we will -- I think wise not to try to be an expert on distributing drugs in China ourselves, which would be, I think, a fool's errand. And instead we linked up with the #1 drug distributor in China, Wi's [ph] Pharma, and they have definitely been preparing the ground for the launch of the drug and I think they're excited about a fast take up. And last but not least, the third transformative event for Remodulin FUS, comes from Japan. And Japan is a pretty mature parenteral prostacyclin market. The best data we have is that upwards of $100 million a year of sales are being booked for epoprostenol, which is the generic -- the tradename for Flolan over in Japan. And we've had to do the normal and customary things one has to do to get a drug approved in Japan. We had to, for example, do a special substudy, if you will, just in patients of Japanese ancestry, that's one of the requirements. We did that, very pleased with the outcomes and now we're in the regulatory process. We're looking at a 2013 approval in Japan, launch in 2014. And there, I think, we could reasonably expect the same experience that we had here in the U.S. where we took 80% of the market from Flolan because of the startlingly better convenience and safety advantages of Remodulin compared to Flolan; with regard to the subcu, there's no risk of subcutaneous infections through an open intravenous line. And we think our 2-line interruptions, we have the long half-life associated with Remodulin not giving rise to a risk of abrupt rebound hypertension that you have with Flolan, with just a couple minutes' half-life. So these are all very important advantages of Remodulin. So I think the bottom line answer to your question, Liana, is that the future prospects of Remodulin FUS are very good.