Brad Dickerson
Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch
And Robbie, on the gross margin side, I guess Footwear for us kind of globally right now, our Footwear margins are at -- say, they're in the low 30s. And obviously, our ability to get to where we think we should be, probably closer to 40, maybe low 40s in the longer term, is really going to be driven by a couple of things: one being the mix of our Footwear between cleated and not cleated; and two, our ability to continue to innovate, like Kevin has spoken of, and also to produce footwear efficiently. If you look at our mix, first on the mix side, our mix today still is heavily weighted towards cleated versus non-cleated relative to a lot of other players out there. Obviously, that cleated side of our business is really, really important to our overall Footwear business from an authenticity perspective and credibility perspective, but it does come at the lowest of low margins in Footwear. So with our mix being more weighted towards cleated, that obviously impacts our overall Footwear gross margins. Over time, though, as we are able to grow our non-cleated Footwear business, specifically things like running, which we've been recently doing, we have the ability -- those are -- those commit better margins, and that should help our mix going forward, gross margins in Footwear as we sell more non-cleated footwear. And every indication is things like the Spine platform that we have and also SpeedForm that Kevin spoke of are all things that are heading in the right direction for us relative to margins that could impact mix. And obviously, just how we produce efficiently, too, the ability for us to keep gaining competencies and capabilities in the sourcing side, the product development side will internally help us do things better and produce things in a much better fashion and have an impact towards margins, too. So again, low 30s right now. We do see ourselves over the long term working our way towards more of that 40-ish to low 40s gross margin in Footwear. That will take up the ability to -- first to scale well in the non-cleated side to do that, produce things more efficiently internally. Also, I want to make sure we keep going back to the fact that even though gross margins in Footwear in the 40% to low 40s will still be below our Apparel, that when you look at the whole business model of Footwear longer term, even though you have lower gross margins with those higher price points, Footwear does give you the ability to scale and leverage in SG&A in a better fashion and that operating margin business model in the longer term should look pretty similar on the Footwear and Apparel side.