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Titan International, Inc. (TWI)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, May 4, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Titan International Inc First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. During this session, all lines will be muted until the question-and-answer portion of the call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, certain statements made in this course of the conference call are considered forward-looking statements for the purposes of the Safe Harbor provisions Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and reflect the company’s or management’s intentions hopes, beliefs, expectations, or predictions for the future. The company’s actual results may differ materially from the intensions, hopes, beliefs, expectations and predictions contemplated in these forward-looking statements. As a result, other various sectors included those discussed in the company’s latest Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, to this remark, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures, which are intended to supplement, but not be a substitute for the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The earnings releases which accompanies today’s call contents financial and other quantities information to be discuss today, as well as the reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to be most comparable GAAP measures. And it’s available with the Investor Relations section on our website. Please note this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to introduce Titan President and CEO, Paul Reitz.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Good morning everybody and thanks for joining us. I am going to start off with a few highlights of our business this quarter then I’ll turn it over to Jim for financial review and of course we’ll then giving your questions. Cyclical market downturns are never easy and when you find yourself in the middle of one, it can seem like the clock is stuck in place. The duration and severity in this current downturn make it one of the most challenging we've experienced in the history of our company. Therefore makes it really sweet for us to be able to announce this morning and after 18 consecutive quarters of year-over-year decreases in net sales, that our sales increased 11% this quarter start 2017. Along with that 11% gain in sales we recorded a 40% increased in our gross margin and over 20% in EBITDA. So we’ll let Jim talk further about that, but again it’s a really nice start for us in 2017 and nice to break that streak. I believe that [Audio Gap] aftermarket. As a result, our Q1 2017 aftermarket gains in North America offset that OEM decreases, resulting in a net overall gain for our North American tire business. Next over the past couple of years, we’ve been positioning our undercarriage business to capture additional aftermarket business. We have built a good foundation that's really build upon the strong OEM quality brand we have with our ITM products. And then on top of that, we’ve made investments to improve our distribution channel and that’s really positioned us some of the solid gains that we’re now seeing. We believe there is more opportunity ahead of us in both of those areas. So on top of those specific gains, we continue [Audio Gap] spent too much time focusing…

Jim Froisland

Management

Thanks Paul. I'll begin with the reminder that the results we are about to review were presented in our news release issued this morning and they're discussed in more detail in our Form 10-Q which was also filed this morning. Let's start with the income statement. Net sales for the first quarter of 2017 came in at just over $357 million. This was up more than 11% or almost $36 million from a year ago. As Paul mentioned this is a first year-over-year increase we have seen in 18 quarters adjusted for acquisitions. Also sequential net sales grew over 16% from fourth quarter fiscal year '16. Here is what this meant in terms of segments all segments net sales were higher when compared to the same quarter last year. These increases in net sales were largely driven by higher volume in agriculture and the consumer segments as well as overall favorable [Audio Gap] over prior year comparable. The North American region grew as sales growth in aftermarket tires outplaced OEM declines. As Paul stated the bright spot for this segment was once again in Latin America where net sales continue to rebound in the first quarter over the prior year first quarter with 102% increase. We believe our market share in this region continues to increase and we are seeing in this in the results from this region. In addition to triple-digit increases in agriculture net sales, we realized in Latin America we saw double-digit increases, again this quarter in Russia at 39% and Australia at 47%. Our agricultural segment gross margin improved to 147 basis points in the first quarter to 12% on net sales with most geographical region showing improvements over the same period a year ago. North America improved 93 basis points in spite of significant headwinds…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Joe Montella of Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

Joseph Montella

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

I want to focus on the gross margin, your two main segments. I was wondering if you could take us through the puts and takes for the Ag segment and construction for gross margin. Obviously, better than I expected. So if you could take us through sort of volume mix, material, and then looking at second quarter and beyond, with rubber prices actually have turned down since peaking in the first quarter and the price increases that you implemented on April 1, is it fair to expect gross margin expansions year-over-year to be even better than what we saw on the first quarter?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Go ahead Jim. I will jump in with some of the comments about the margin.

Jim Froisland

Management

Sure. So first of, in terms of the segments, as I said, we were up $35.7 million in sales and that was in all segments. But again, I mentioned agricultural was driven by volume as well as price mix and currency. Earth construction was primarily pricing mix was a little volume down, negative decline and a positive currency. And then Consumer, that was driven by volume and currency. So that's the drivers for the top-line. In terms of the raw materials, I guess, clearly, the rubber prices were up over 40% and then we saw some increase in the steel, and as Paul mentioned, the price increase went into effect in the first part of April, so.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes. I'll take your question about margins improving later in the year. The answer to that is yes. And I made a comment earlier, I said, generally speaking always, which sounds kind of ridiculous using those two words in the same sentence. And the reason why I did is because history has shown that we always end up recouping the raw material cost. I used the phrase generally speaking, because you never know if your competition is going to do something irrational and stupid. I think with the raw materials increases that we've seen being as significant as they were over the last six months, now it is stabilizing, but we've seen competition, generally speaking act very rationale thus far with the increases they put in place in April. With our OEM customers, we do have contracts in many cases that we'll see repricing in July at the start of the third quarter. So to answer your question, yes, we would expect gross margins absent the raw material fluctuations that we saw in the past six months improve as the year progresses.

Joseph Montella

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

And then, so continuing with that one variable that's tough for us to sort of handle on is mix, and I do know some of your products to have higher margins and some have lower margins. So it sounded like, I think, you did highlight that mix was sort of favorable in the first quarter. How do you think about that going forward? Is that mix sort of sustainable or were there certain, I don't know, large mining tires or even on the Ag side certain products that you may not tend to see strong going forward in the near-term at least, or how do you think about mix going forward?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes. That's a good question. And the two areas that I would highlight on mix that we've seen improvements, didn't just happen overnight. And that would be, first with our ITM business, our undercarriage business. We made a strategic effort to change our mix from where it's historically been 75% OEM to get it more around the levels of 60%, 65% OEM based. And so we made that strategic move a while back to make investments to improve our distribution channels with the aftermarket, which as Jim highlighted does involved holding more inventory that you see in our working capital. But we've been working on that an issue for a substantial period of time, getting the foundation in place and we're starting to see that take hold as the OEM market for our segments remains challenged. The aftermarket does present some opportunities. And so we've benefited in our undercarriage business along with our North American tire business has seen a mix shift, where as we've stated publicly before, we're typically in recent years been about 60% OEM. We're seeing that shift to be about 50-50 between OEM and aftermarket. And again, that was driven by some strategic decisions we made mid-part of last year to really change our positioning within the market to go capture more in the aftermarket. So to answer your question, I do believe it sustainable, again, not just because the market has shifted that way, but because the strategic moves that we put in place going back and in some cases going back two years ago.

Jim Froisland

Management

The other thing, Paul is mentioning the LSW, we're continuing to see double-digit increases in that, which is a nice thing to see in terms of our margins and the mix, et cetera also.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes. That's really good point. But this is probably our first call in long time and we didn't mention LSW in any of our comments, which I'm glad, Jim, you put that up there. That continues on a very positive trend, top line, bottom line and its helping us in many aspects of our business, not just with the direct sales of LSW, but with what it does to our overall brand and the residual sales you get from the strength of your brand.

Joseph Montella

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

And then I wanted to ask you on SG&A. So in terms of these legal and professional fees that you sort of cite as onetime, number one, is any of that going to sort of somewhat bleed into to the second quarter? I realize it's going to sort of go away or your expectations are it's going to going away at least by -- maybe the second half of the year. And number two, aside from those legal and professional fees, I know one of your goals and I don't know how far you're in terms of planning is to reduce SG&A sort of maybe across the board, taking a hard look at SG&A, the core SG&A, and start trying to take that down as much as possible. Where are you with that? And if you can quantify anything that would be great, but in just overall SG&A.

Jim Froisland

Management

This is Jim. Sure. First, your first question is, there is going to be a carryover in the second quarter? No, these were truly nonrecurring. It related to, I guess, carryover -- we had to go through with that material weakness, which we talked about, which was a huge effort, glad to have that one behind us. But there was audit cost as we -- what it was a month ago, that we finished our year-end. So we had the professional fees -- extra professional fees. So that's not going to happen again, number one. Number two, we have the ITM transaction and there were some carryover on that. That will not go into second quarter. So to answer your question, no, we don't see -- they were truly one-time events. And your second part of the question is, I'm very pleased that the material weakness is behind us and I'm excited about -- its given me time and our team to help to push the business forward profitably. And this whole business improvement framework, I'm not going to get into a lot of details, but that's been in the company prior to coming. It's very successful, as Paul mentioned and quite frankly. It's taking a look at your processes, building a solid foundation, so that you can build a house upon that foundation. I was a carpenter when I was going through college, and you go to have a solid foundation. The same thing is for back-office. And we certainly have built -- the one thing good about material weakness, you go to get down in the weeds and look at the foundation and start building processes. So I got a good review of all the processes. That's first base. Second base is, all roads lead to people and systems. So that's what I'm focusing on now. Our systems, I'll just say this, old. And the nice thing about that is we can leapfrog, and I've done this before in many companies. You can leapfrog forward into, I guess, it's 2017, we're talking about here. So I'm excited about that. And early indications, these are big numbers, we have, I call it profit leaks, but the committee, one of the four committees that we kicked off and announced last quarter is the profit leaks committee and it's dear to my heart. And the lists are coming in and it's nice because we meet on a regular basis, and we share ideas, best practices. Not only external, but internal, and it's nice to see people say, you did that, and they say yes, and they say well geez, maybe I should take a look at it. So you're really starting to see fruits for that, and you’re going to see that come out in the next three quarters. Some of it's hits right away, but other times it takes investment of people and time.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Joe, we nicknamed Jim, The Viking. And so if he shows up on your store caring a club than you know his presence is going to be felt where [indiscernible].

Jim Froisland

Management

Just to give you a little detail. My cousin investigated the family tree and I don’t know, if people out there watch the history channel on the Vikings, but I'm related to Ragnar Lothbrok.

Joseph Montella

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Well, I'll certainly keep an eye on my back then. Last question, I’ll get back in queue. Just wondering if you can give an update on the North American OEM part of the business. You said that was still sort of dragging and the aftermarket actually offset that, but are the declines slowing year-over-year? And can you see at what point in time is it end of the year fourth quarter. When do you see OEM in North America returning to growth?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

It's a great question that I would say -- I would answer this way, I wish, I knew exactly when it was going to get better just like anything in life, if you could forecast it than I wouldn’t be sitting here on this call today. But I would characterize it this way, what we see is not much change and that's both good and bad. It's good, because, to answer part of your question, we don't see things getting worse. We see some aspects of the market are positive, where inventory is correcting, dealer channels are starting to improve, used prices are getting stronger. But then on the flipside, you still see there is a lot of grain in storage. There is some equipment especially on the large horsepower that's not moving very well through the used channels and it's causing some hard burden with dealers. So I would just say, this quarter at this point in time it's not much has changed. And so, like we said, we re-emphasized our business in other ways. I don't think the OEM market is going to get, I don't see there is a big risk for a significant downturn in the OEM market. I just, all the facets of the business are not pointing in that direction. But as far as seeing some leading indicators just like win, it's going to get better. I don't think we're seeing those signs yet either. But it's not a of question of if, it's a question of when, it will to get better. And I think that's specifically for North America to answer your question. But you're going to see other parts of the world that the OEM market is doing much better. Obviously, in Latin America it is some of the European pieces are looking a little bit better, but specifically, North America, I think, it's basically much of the same, as what we've seen before.

Joseph Montella

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Okay. Are we at single-digit declines in North America OEM or where are we at?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

You were around that ballpark, yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Larry De Maria of William Blair. Please go ahead.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

Few questions. First, really it's the SG&A costs which you guys discussed, but just give us what should be the run rate going forward? The normal run rate, is it in that $35 million range or where we should we think about that going forward?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

I think if you back out the nonrecurring that I talked about. I think 35 million is probably a good number. But it depends upon again the profit leaks and what we see good progress in that. And so, I would say that's probably a good ballpark figure, but we're always looking for continuous improvement as it is done on the cost of sales line.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

Secondly, on the [indiscernible] OE, which I guess is probably going to get worse from here. Can you just tell us, what were maybe year-over-year orders for North American OE up, down, flat, so we can just kind of gauge that?

Jim Froisland

Management

I would say it's down a little bit, kind of similar to what we said before, Larry. We offset the modest declines in the OEM business with the aftermarket. So I would say the order trends in -- at this point are pointing downwards with the OEM piece of our business. But it's still sporty. There are some parts of the OEM business that are looking better, there is other parts that they are still working through some inventory corrections, inventory issues. So, yes, but to answer your question at this point, it's down a bit.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

The four divestitures go, obviously, the ITM processes long over at this point. But, I guess, I would hope there was still negotiations based on the folks actually submitted data. So, and did they update on any divestitures and prospects of actually moving ITM still at this point?

Jim Froisland

Management

Look, the ITM business is really performing well. As we talked about on the last call, the special committee of the Board along with the full Board, we made the decision not to sell ITM, the trend lines that were already in place, that were positive, continue on that path. I think the investments we've made on the business, it's really positioned ourselves well. I see some further opportunities for us to continue improving on that business. So as far as the divestitures speed goes, my discussions with the management team of ITM have been let's keep the pedal to the metal and keep this moving forward in a positive direction. So from my perspective, Larry, there is no thoughts on divesting it and certainly believe that there's some really good opportunities ahead for us with that business.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

And then last question. You guys keep talking about that business improvement framework. Could you just remind us exactly kind of the impact, I think it's going to be $7 million a quarter, but I'm not sure. But just going forward maybe through this year then even annualizing to next year, how do we think about the actual dollars as they flow through on -- just what you guys are doing on bips [ph]?

Jim Froisland

Management

With bip I think, there is two parts answer of that question. One, we did a really good job under bip, getting our business units to focus on the -- really the gross margin. Focus on what's going on at the plant, at the plant level. And what that's done is allowed us to make a decision on a timely basis, that as the market goes through cyclical terms. We've been able to keep up with our cost control and our overall level of expense at the plant level very well through bip. And like we said, this quarter it is $7 million, I think, you would see trend line that well continue on that level. But then as the business starts to improve, you may see that number actually, go down a little bit as we have to start investing again back in bringing people on board and as Jim mentioned earlier increasing inventory. So I think what we're doing is shifting a little bit away from bip, like I said, which was plant level specific. And as Jim mentioned forming, what we're calling a profit leak recommitted to focused on our operating expenses at the SG&A level specifically. What happened over the last couple of years is, we're going through material weakness period. As you're looking to sell of ITM, you got a number of distractions that as you'd seen, we've all seen, if costs, our SG&A costs are expected to creep up to a level that historically doesn't fit to Titan culture. If you look at this business, I mean, we've been 7% to 8% SG&A company going back a long time in our history and I'm excited to have Jim on-board. As he mentioned in his comments, he is now has the time with his team and my team to really focus on the operating expense side of this company. And we lost that focus over the last couple of years, being in the material weakness was a big hit to us from that perspective. And so we're kind of shifting that focus away from bip and getting into the operating expense line. And certainly, we'll be talking more about that as we move forward. Our entire organization is going to be focused on how we can reduce SG&A, and some of these one-time events that we had not continuing in the future will be part of it. But it needs to go deeper into that. We got to make some structural changes to our SG&A to get it in line with what historically Titan has been.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

So can you get to 7% or 8% by 2018 or is that too much work to do?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Well, it depends how big of Viking club is. We might have to put some spice on the end of it Larry and we have to start swinging a little harder. We'll give more specific projections on that. I think, at this point, Larry, let Jim and I continue on the path we are and definitely when we get into the tail end of the year, we'll be able to really pinpoints what those projections are for 2018. And part of it is the variable side of SG&A, the other side that is the fixed side of SG&A. And all SG&A becomes variable at some point, but it doesn't quite work that way in reality. So that's what we got to spend some time focusing on is, what part that fixed SG&A can we attach and we get the structure really position better for 2018.

Larry De Maria

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead

Can you just let us know of the percentage, what we stick [ph] was variable?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

I don't think, I don't have information at this point. I don't think Jim and I are at that point, Larry.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Stephen Volkmann of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Maybe just to stay on this SG&A thing just for a second. I am sort of feeling like going forward, not quite sure, how to say it, but historically, I think, probably you mentioned sort of 7% to 8% SG&A, but you may not have had the full complement of systems and checks and balances that you will necessarily needed, and obviously, you're building those in at this point. But that made me feel like the going forward SG&A rate would probably be a little higher than had been historically, as you sort of grow into your sort of more modern footprint, is that the right way to think about it or it sounds like maybe you think there is still opportunity there?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

There's opportunity. We didn't have a material weakness before the last couple of years, so even though we ran lean at 7% to 8% from both internal and external perspective, we were getting the job done. Yes, over the last couple of years in remediating material weakness, we wandered down a path that did influence our SG&A negatively. We built up an infrastructure as a global company as you mentioned that is bigger than what it was before, when we were at that 7% or 8%. And I think that's what we really got to focus on the fixed side. The footprint we have is probably because of our IT systems, is largely than it needs to be because we don't have the IT bandwidth in place at the centralized level. So we end up doing a lot more additional work at the business unit level. And so I would think that's what I mean by structure, that's where our additional costs are coming in. So to stay out of the material weakness we have to invest more, spend more time, I should say, on resources at the business unit level, because we don't have the centralized IT systems that can keep us out of the material weakness. And so I think that's were, Jim had mentioned in his comments, the focus on IT, that's going to be a big part of our plan going forward. And that's why, at this point, it's not something that Jim and I can just rattle off and give to you today, but we need to make some investments there, so that we can run more of a centralized approach for IT systems that structurally allow us to change things at the business unit level. So those are kind of how the pieces fit together.

Jim Froisland

Management

Yes. This is Jim. There'll be some additional investments or costs as it relates to IT. But I've been in CIO and CFO positions. And as I said earlier, all roads lead to people, and technology and I also said, we can leapfrog and I've done that before. So I'm excited about that. These profit leaks are really just looking at the cherry tree and saying, well maybe that one is easy to pick and some of these aren't. Some of them are more long-term definitely the systems. But we're going to be looking at vendors next leak exactly. So we're moving that along, the project is labeled GLH. And there was a car named after GLH. So I'm not going to say what that stands for, but we're moving fast down on that path. And as I said, looking at processes and streamlining them, the packages we're looking at, we're looking at the best practices and so I'm excited about that.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Okay. And then different topic, but I think Paul you mentioned that like price mix was positive 3% or 4%, I don’t know the exact number. But I'm curious, how should we be thinking about China tariff in regard to that. Is that part of what's driving this or is that just too smaller a piece of market to have a major impact, or how do we think about that?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes the price mix improvements we have seen are driven by the mix between OEM and aftermarket. The Chinese tariff is would certainly help in the regard that it keeps the marketplace competitively positioned on an even basis. So with the tariffs already being in place like they were with China, the recent announcement basically said, look, the tariffs are going to be in place, but at an even stronger level. So I think what that does is that cements a good level playing field in the marketplace for the OTR tires. And then as you know, as we mentioned earlier, the India and Sri Lankan case, that we got the tariffs put in place, that at a more modest level, but that helps us on the Ag side of the business where the Indian and Sri Lankan manufacturers focus more abroad, where the Chinese business is more the off road OTR construction business.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Okay. So it doesn't sound like we should be baking in continued improvement from this level in terms of the price cost mix?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Not from the -- the tariffs certainly helped, there is no doubt about that they helped. But the price mix improvements that you're seeing are driven by mix shift within our own organization between aftermarket and OEM.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got it. Okay. And then my final one is just on the rubber price issue. Will there be some residual impact in the second quarter? And then you sort of come back to breakeven in the second half. Is that the right way to think of it?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes, it is Steve and that's why we kept talking about the fact that the contracts reprice twice a year. So yes, what we experienced in Q1 will have some residual that continues through Q2.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Alex Blanton of Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

I just want to focus on the two items that you mentioned, earlier the lack of your -- the lag in the price increase of $9 million, and let's call it $6 million of legal fees that are non-recurring. If you add those up and assume a 30% tax rate, you broke even in the quarter if you exclude those, is that correct? It's about $0.18 a share, the two combined?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

I would agree with your math, Jim?

Jim Froisland

Management

Yes, simple math. That's not right. All [Multiple Speakers].

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

So that's a breakeven versus an estimate of $0.11 loss?

Jim Froisland

Management

Right.

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

And I think, some of that -- would you agree that some of that can be attributed to efficiency improvements, that you will be continuing to have an impact on incremental margins going forward?

Jim Froisland

Management

Yes. Absolutely.

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

Okay. So those incremental margins if you adjust for those items, let's say just the gross profit for the $9 million, which you make back eventually by raising price. You would -- before that adjustment on an actual basis you had 32% gross margin, incremental gross margin of 32%, but if you add back $9 million, it was almost 57% incremental margin on the gross margin line. Is my math correct on that?

Jim Froisland

Management

It seems right on the top of my head, Alex. So I think [Multiple Speakers].

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

Okay. So that’s the kind of thing we can expect going forward that sales increase, to get back to, the peak would have to almost double from last year's level. And as the sales go up you are going to add tremendous amounts of incremental profit, it seems to me. And even on the operating line if we add back the legal fees to the change there, it's about a $19 million swing, which is on the operating line of 53% incremental margin. Well my basic question is this, do you expect those kinds of incremental margins then would basically continue as this recovery goes forward?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

I think, Alex, the incremental margins you outlined, definitely that's going to happen [ph], we believe that our incremental margins will be strong because of the improvements we put in place, our plants, generally speaking across the board are more efficient since the cost of quality. But you got to look at 50% of your costs being tied to raw materials, so you can get 57% number that you quoted, that seems a little heavy as a run rate just on the fact that you got 50% of your materials costs baked in there. So I would keep that in mind as you look at run rate going forward.

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

If you'd been able to increase your prices to recover those costs, that's what it would have been.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Exactly. And that's the makeshift that we've been talking about. We repositioned the business to benefit a from a mix shift. And pricing remains challenging not because of the market conditions but because of the fluctuations in raw materials. So it's something that we watch across the Board extremely close, and it certainly will give some benefit back in Q2 and we'll benefit in Q3 as pricing adjust to the cost structure of raw materials.

Jim Froisland

Management

There is two things I would add to that, Paul. One it's a cyclical business keep that in mind [technical difficulty] fixed as well as variable costs. You mentioned materials costs, but there is labor and there is overhead. So in terms of variable, that's variable by definition and then the fix, it remains fixed relative to not fixed.

Alex Blanton

Analyst · Clear Harbor Asset Management. Please go ahead

Okay. Certainly, could you give us an update on expansion in Russia to serve the Goodyear farm tire market that you'd be getting into. What is a timing on that? When can we expect some sales from selling Goodyear branded contracts farm tires in Europe?

Jim Froisland

Management

The expansion in Russia is moving forward. I just spent a long time on the phone yesterday talking to our comrades in Russia and the gentleman from the U.S. that's leading that effort. And we got equipment in place, that is working and going through the test phases now. We still had some equipment that we need to get [indiscernible] over there. I'm looking at this being something that's -- by the third quarter we have it in place, and by the fourth quarter we can -- we will be putting product [technical difficulty] clearly, we got to run the -- we got to build the product, we got to through in internal tests and make sure we're building to right specifications. So that's why it's tough to nail down an exact timeframe, I know what I expect, but I want to allow ourselves some time because of the -- we've dove -- we've come a long way with the Goodyear brand since 2005. What we've in North America, what we've done in South America to make it the number one brand on both continents for farm tires. And so Alex, I don't want to run out there too fast before we make sure, we're building good product that represents Titan and the Goodyear brand well. So the equipment is there, it's being setup, like I said we got a little bit more still coming. But we will have the equipment firmly in place by the third quarter and then subject to some testing of the products we're building, when we release them into market. We have some other ways too that we're looking to build some products for the European market that we'll be discussing in the future, we are building some such products in other locations. So it's not just all Russia, where the European market needs will be filled from. We'll be able to come into the European markets from a couple of different perspective, not just with the product build in Russia.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Aaron Steele of Feltl & Company. Please go ahead.

Aaron Steele

Analyst · Feltl & Company. Please go ahead

You saw good growth on the agricultural segment for the quarter, but on the volume, in the earthmoving construction, just wondering kind of what's driving that lower volume in that segment and then maybe what you see kind of some trends going for the rest of the year?

Jim Froisland

Management

I think earthmoving construction, you're seeing in the impact of the OEM market there. It's still remaining in a tough spot. You've seen some of the operators picking up their activities, parts of the aftermarket, the replacement business for mining, replacement of business for construction improving. But I think, what you're seeing there is the impact of the OEM markets still being in a tough spot. So to answer your question, if Trump gets his tax bill through and the infrastructure spending bill, maybe North America starts to taking off, we all know, we need to spend some money on infrastructure over here. But you're starting to see some projects that are in place, that was out West last week it was and you see some activity going on. So there's part of our business quite frankly, where we're increasing tooling, we're trying to build up some inventory, because we're not meeting all the demand in the market, but it's more region-specific, product-specific than it is across the board. So to answer your question, I think you're going to need something that kick starts the OEM markets for earthmoving construction. And hopefully that comes through some changes in regulation.

Aaron Steele

Analyst · Feltl & Company. Please go ahead

Okay. Excellent. And just maybe an update on the LSW plant in Brazil, is that still slated to begin production in the third quarter here. And then what are you seen result right now, obviously improving in Latin Americas, Brazil specifically and then any improving trends to call out there?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

The wheel plant we're working on in Brazil is still in progress, got a team that's focused on that. So we're preparing the equipment. Will it be operational by the third quarter, no, it won't. We're still going through some preparation on the equipment and getting it setup. I think we'll be able to outlined the timeline a little further later in the year giving everybody an update. But at this point, we got a team, it's a mix of Brazilian and U.S. representatives with some of the equipment coming from U.S. and then obviously, the knowledge we have on wheels in the U.S. So it's coordinated effort, I got a couple of guys that actually going down to Brazil in a couple of weeks and really we'll focus on what that timeline is going to look like. But at this point, Aaron to answer your question specifically, no, it will not be operational for Q3. But that doesn't mean we are moving forward with LSW effort. We do have the same team we put in the place in U.S. the griz [ph] squad that proved to be very successful in introducing LSW in the market. We're doing the same thing in Brazil right now. We've got a team that is going after the large farmers out there, which are -- I mean, those are farmers, those are large businesses. And the test results we're seeing on LSW in Brazil have been fantastic, especially considering the equipment they run down there and the way their plantations are set up. So we are moving forward LSW, we are making some investments on the tire side to be able to build LSW tires down there. The question then would just be that LSW wheels would have to be imported from the U.S.,…

Aaron Steele

Analyst · Feltl & Company. Please go ahead

And on the LSW side, as well, is there still that push to grow that into the earthmoving and construction segment as well and how those efforts continuing on?

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Yes, there is a push. I mean LSW, what it does for the farm segment, it does as well in the construction side. I mean it provides the stability and performance improvements. We're going through what we did in farm -- the early stages what we did in farm where you just continue to get product out there and get and collect the testimonials that you need to really push it out into the marketplace. So it's a different time line and what we've done with farm, meaning we had started at the same time we did farm, and farm is clearly, well beyond the testimonial phase, in fact, we're pulling on the testimonials and testing going into just focusing on selling it and marketing it. With the construction side of our business, we're still in that testimonial testing phase.

Aaron Steele

Analyst · Feltl & Company. Please go ahead

And then CapEx for the year. Is it still in that $25 million to $30 million range? And then what do I guess with the kind of lengthy process of off starting both Brazil and then the both in Russia too. Where do see kind of that range of costs coming for the year?

Jim Froisland

Management

Well this is Jim. As I said in my comments, $25 million to $30 million range, excluding Brazil, Paul just talked about Brazil. It's really in the early stages. So we could be north of the 30 million, but it really depends upon how quickly we can proceed with the plant buildout.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Reitz for any closing remarks.

Paul Reitz

President and CEO

Well, I just want to thank everybody for their attendance and participation this morning. Have yourself a great day. Thank you.