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Townsquare Media, Inc. (TSQ)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 9, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Townsquare's Third Quarter 2019 Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and your participation implies consent to such recording. [Operator Instructions] With that, I would like to introduce the first speaker of today's call, Claire Yenicay, Executive Vice President. Ma'am, you may proceed.

Claire Yenicay

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, operator, and good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Townsquare's third quarter financial update. With me on the call today are Bill Wilson, our CEO; and Stuart Rosenstein, our CFO and Executive Vice President. Please note that during this call, we may make statements that provide information other than historical information, including statements relating to the company's future prospects. These statements are considered forward-looking statements under the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projections. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on current conditions but are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that are detailed in the company's annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC, and we incorporate these by reference for this call. We may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA; adjusted EBITDA, excluding political; and adjusted operating income and make certain pro forma adjustments. Such non-GAAP financial measures should be used in conjunction with all the information contained in the quarterly and year-end reports available on our website. We do not provide reconciliations on forward-looking statements due to the inability to estimate certain components of forward-looking statements that are not available without unreasonable efforts. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Bill Wilson.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Claire, and thank you all for joining us this morning. We are pleased to share another quarter of strong financial results with you today and to confirm that we remain on track to having a breakout 2019. Let me start by first sharing with you that both net revenue and adjusted EBITDA exceeded the guidance that we laid out on our previous earnings call. In the third quarter, Townsquare's net revenue increased a very strong plus 7.9% ex-political over the prior year, plus 6.2%, including political, and our adjusted EBITDA increased an impressive plus 12.9% ex-political and plus 6.7% including political over the prior year. Just like in Q1 and Q2, this quarter's strong revenue and EBITDA growth was driven by the consistent strength of our advertising and Townsquare interactive segments. It is also worth noting, that we ended the third quarter with 4.7x net leverage, our lowest net leverage ever and we continue to make reducing our net debt a priority. We believe Townsquare's strong Q3 and year-to-date results demonstrate that our local-first strategy, combined with our talented team's execution is accelerating our transformation from being a leading traditional radio broadcaster to being a premier local media and entertainment company proudly focused on markets outside of the top 50 cities in the U.S. As I’ve shared previously, we are very confident that our marketing and advertising solutions are differentiated from our competition in our markets, are very effective and powerful to help local clients achieve their goals and grow their business, and as a result, enable us to aspire to be not only the number one radio broadcaster, but also the number one Local Media Company in the markets we choose to operate in. Given the strength of our Q3 performance, as well as our outlook for…

Stuart Rosenstein

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. As a reminder, over the past 2 years, we’ve completed several divestitures and discontinued certain portions of our Live Events business as we reoriented our business to our local media platform. The results of these Live Events businesses have been reclassified to discontinued operations for the current and historical periods, and these results can be found in our quarterly filings on Form 10-Q. All of the financial results, we will discuss today, are related to continuing operations. Please refer to the tables included in our earnings release, which provide GAAP results and pro forma results as well as our non-GAAP performance measures. For the quarter ended September 30, 2019, net revenue increased 6.2% to $112.6 million as compared to the third quarter of 2018. As Bill noted earlier, this exceeded our previously issued guidance range of $109 million to $111 million. Excluding political revenue, which declined approximately $1.7 million as compared to the prior year. Total net revenue increased 7.9%. Townsquare Interactive net revenue increased 26% in the third quarter, and direct operating expenses increased 21.5%, translating to an adjusted operating income increase of 36.8% compared to the third quarter of the prior year. Townsquare Interactive's third quarter operating margins expanded to 31.5% as compared to 29% in the prior year period. Advertising net revenue increased 5.2% in the third quarter as compared to the third quarter of last year. Excluding political revenue, advertising net revenue increased 7.3%. The increase in advertising revenue was driven primarily by Townsquare Ignite, which continues to be our fastest growing product. Advertising direct operating expenses increased 6.3% in the third quarter due to the continued investment in our product and sales team for Townsquare Ignite to support our revenue growth. Adjusted operating income for this segment increased…

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Stu, and thank you to everyone who dialed in this morning. I also want to take the opportunity to, again, thank the amazing and talented Townsquare team across the country for their hard work each and every day that is driving our strong results. You matter. We are very pleased with our performance in Q3, as well as year-to-date, and our ability to once again raise guidance for the full-year. We look forward to finishing the year on a high note as we are on track to delivering the strongest year-over-year adjusted EBITDA growth, in a non-political year, in our company's history. We hope that you agree that Townsquare is not a traditional radio broadcaster, but it has evolved to be a premier local media and digital marketing solutions company with a thriving digital business that has net revenue growth in excess of 20%.We are hyper-focused on super serving our local clients and helping their businesses grow through our local-first strategy, while at the same time, delivering results for our shareholders. As always, please do not hesitate to call us to further discuss our business or ask any questions. I look forward to speaking with our investors at every opportunity. And with that, we are now happy to open the call for questions. Operator, will you please open the lines?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instruction] Your first question comes from the line of Michael Kupinski with NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

First of all, congratulations on your impressive results. I just wanted to kind of cross-off a couple of things, Political in the third quarter was $635,000, is that right? That number?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Michael. Good morning. Yes, that's correct.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And then if you -- just kind of going on your debt reduction, obviously, you're paying down debt pretty impressively here. Can you talk about your targeted debt leverage?

Stuart Rosenstein

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Hey, Michael. Thanks. Yes. We are targeting in the near-term -- near to mid-term in the low 4s. We hope to get to there by the end of next year.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Got you. And then are there M&A opportunities at this time?

Claire Yenicay

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Mike, it's Claire. There's not that much in the M&A pipeline at this time.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And then can you give us a sense on the revenue growth rate for Ignite in the quarter? How did the segment perform relative to the previous quarter? And does the company plan to break out that segment in the future?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Hey, Michael. Thank you. As we've talked about, that’s our fastest growing segment of our business, currently, in terms of Ignite and the Digital Growth. It accelerated in terms of dollars and percent from a year-over-year basis in Q3 versus Q2, and we see that continuing in Q4. As you know, we don't break that out specifically today, but it's part of our advertising revenue, which in Q3, was up 7.3% ex-political. And as I noted on the call, we had a very strong broadcast quarter, that's why we shared the Miller Kaplan data, but Ignite was the primary driver of that 7.3% growth. And we expect that going forward. As you also know, Michael, we've stated on the call again, that we know and believe that division will be $100 million, and we updated that forecast now to 2 to 4 years from now.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Got you. And then the company has a very innovative approach to its website with content that targets it demos and its radio stations and creates a significant amount of original content that you mentioned on the call. So excluding Ignite, can you give us a sense on what your other digital businesses did in the quarter? And maybe even if you kind of exclude AnalyticOwl. I'm just kind of interested in what your websites contributed? And then also, if you can just give us a sense of what core advertising did, excluding Digital in the quarter?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Got it. So I will try to cover some of that. But to your point, our content strategy is specific to the platform. So we create specific content for our on-air broadcast and then for our own websites as well as for our video network and social platforms. And as I noted on the call, in September, and then actually continued in October, but for September, we had our largest online audience ever in the company's history, with over $20 million local unique visitors going to our local radio station websites. When you added our national sites like Taste of Country and XXL and PopCrush and Ultimate Classic Rock, that number was $40 million. So monetizing that inventory as well as from a streaming perspective, which we call our Digital O&O, which is in essence, 1 of 3 buckets. There is TSI, there is ignite, and then our owned and operated Digital that make up our Digital revenue, which I stated on the call, this year, we expect our digital revenue to be $150 million in total for the year. I would share with you, we don't break it out, that's obviously part of our advertising segment, but that was high single digits growth in terms of monetizing our own digital assets. I'm not sure if I hit all your questions, happy to answer if there's any others.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Yes. And I actually always take some of those offline. But again, congratulations on the quarter. Those were my questions. Thank you.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instruction] Your next question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

James Goss

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Okay. Thanks. As you were talking about some of the successes with Ignite and Interactive, it strikes me that Interactive probably is more appropriate from the smaller markets you are dealing with, whether you own them or not, Ignite could actually be applicable to some larger markets as well, it would seem. I'm wondering if -- I know Claire just said that there's not much available in the pipeline in terms of M&A., but if -- would your sites include something any markets larger than the ones you intend to, if you do scan the markets for available M&A? And how large a market do you think this process would work?

Stuart Rosenstein

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

As you know, Jim, and I appreciate the comments. The -- our focus is on markets outside the top 50 markets in the U.S. and when we're looking at M&A, and we also look at sales channel for Townsquare Interactive outside of our local market footprint. We focus on markets outside the 2 -- top 50 based on our product suite, our customer service, we feel we are differentiated in those size markets, and that's where we are focused from an operational standpoint as well as from an M&A standpoint.

James Goss

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Okay. It does seem that with the sophisticated data capture that you're able to do. It makes me wonder if you might have a greater appeal to some national advertisers. Radio is traditionally more of a local revenue base, but to the extent that you can contribute to national reach for national spot and some of those other areas, do you find that to be a greater opportunity than has been true in the past?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Yes. I think the short answer is yes, we find it as a greater opportunity. As you know, Jim, our national revenues is less than 10%. It's a very small part of our company, but to the point you're making, the fact that we’ve first-party data and over the last 4 to 5 years, built a data management platform to create those insights. We've used that with national campaigns in our national team, but where we see, I would say, outsized opportunity and differentiation is in these markets that we are operating in, because quite honestly, nobody has that level of data and insights that we're providing our clients as well as our sales teams.

James Goss

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

And to the extent that you've taken Townsquare Interactive outside of markets where you -- in which you have stations. Do you think there's a potential to do the same with a Townsquare Ignite and Blueprint and AnalyticOwl, some of the other things you've been doing to increase your sophistication?

Stuart Rosenstein

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Exactly. I think we see that as a significant opportunity as we look at 2020 and beyond. As we shared on the call, and as you know, Jim, half of our Townsquare Interactive sales are in our local radio markets and half are outside of our markets. So we kind of broke it down on this call, and I think we broke it down on our call earlier this year, with over 18,000 monthly subscribers paying us, on average, over $300 a month. We've got 9,000 in our markets, 9,000 outside. We look at the universe in our markets in terms of ideal customers. So we track that based on the number of employees, annual revenue, certain verticals. Our sweet spot in our markets is about 500,000 SMBs, as I just said, we're under 10,000. And then if you look outside of our markets, still looking at markets with less than 1.5 million population factoring in all the variables that we have. We see a population of SMBs of 5 million. And again, we have less than 10,000. So for Townsquare Interactive, that's why we're confident, and currently won a $65 million annualized run rate. We know we will be at $100 million in a few years, but that's really just a starting point, and we will continue to grow from there. To your specific question on Ignite, we are actually starting to test selling that from our Charlotte based inside sales office. I would say it's too early to share any specifics on this call, but I would say, to your point, we know and we see early evidence that, a, there is work outside our local market footprint; and b, to your earlier point, we could sell this in larger-sized markets. There is obviously more competition in the top 50, but we've seen some opportunity to sell it, nonetheless, in larger markets.

James Goss

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And one last question. Political, last year, I think, did you say $10 million for 2018? And I'm wondering what your expectations are for 2020? Do you feel it would be more or less in the presidential year than a non-presidential year?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Yes. So in general, we do $10 million and $3 million on off years in terms of millions. So given that we are outperforming this year in Political, as Stu outlined on the call, our year-to-date numbers are our expectation for Q4. My expectation, based on some of the things like we just talked about, our data squared and first-party data that it will be a great year for us in 2020 from a political perspective than it will be prior presidential years in terms of revenue.

James Goss

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

All right. Thanks very much.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Jim.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is a follow-up from Michael Kupinski with NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you. I'm sorry for a couple of additional ones here. Can you talk a little bit about the sequential monthly revenue growth in the quarter? Was the performance pretty even throughout the quarter?

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Yes. Yes, I haven't -- we look at it quarter-by-quarter, we actually look at it more from an annualized basis. But no quarter in -- no month, in particular, in the quarter, outperformed or underperformed. We had stable performance throughout. And really, one of the best quarters we've had in quite some time from a broadcast perspective, we see that sequentially improving quarter-over-quarter. So nothing from a monthly standpoint that stands out, Michael.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Got you. And it would seem that you have pretty favorable momentum going to the fourth quarter, and with your political advertising guidance, which was actually a little higher than I expected for the fourth quarter, it seems like you might be a little conservative with your guidance for Q4. I mean can you just kind of give me your thoughts about that, because your guidance for political seems a little stronger than I would have expected.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

We feel great about Q4. I think as you've seen, we obviously are providing guidance, we’ve 100% confidence in. So if you want to call that conservative, I will leave that to you, but as we continue to do throughout the quarters we beat and raised our guidance or achieved throughout this year. So we are confident, and we think we are setting the right expectations and look forward to closing out the year with momentum and continue into 2020.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Got you. Thanks. That’s all I have.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we’ve reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I would like to turn the call back to Bill Wilson for closing remarks.

Bill Wilson

Analyst · NOBLE Financial. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, operator. I just want to thank everybody for dialing in this morning and taking time to learn more about Townsquare. I'm very proud of our results. I'm very proud, incredibly proud of the Townsquare team across the country. We are quite confident as we just talked about in our outlook for the rest of '19 and importantly, 2020 and beyond. And if you have any questions at all, I encourage you to reach out. And we are available any time to talk to all of our investors, and I look forward to doing so. So thank you, everybody.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.