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Tecnoglass Inc. (TGLS)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, May 12, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Tecnoglass' first quarter 2017 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Rodny Nacier, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Rodny Nacier

Analyst

Thank you for joining us for Tecnoglass' first quarter 2017 conference call. A copy of the slide presentation to accompany this call may be obtained on the Investors section of the Tecnoglass website at www.tecnoglass.com. Our speakers for today's call are José Manuel Daes, Chief Executive Officer, Chris Daes, Chief Operating Officer and Santiago Giraldo, Deputy CFO. Moving to slide two. Before turning the call over to José, I would like to remind everyone that matters discussed in this call, except for historical information, are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our future financial performance, future growth and future acquisitions. These statements are based on Tecnoglass' current expectations or beliefs and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may vary in a material nature from those expressed or implied by the statements herein due to changes in economic, business, competitive and/or regulatory factors and other risks and uncertainties affecting the operations of Tecnoglass' business. These risks, uncertainties and contingencies are indicated from time-to-time in Tecnoglass' filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The information discussed during the call is presented in light of such risks. Further, investors should keep in mind that Tecnoglass' financial results in any particular period may not be indicative of future results. Tecnoglass is under no obligation to and expressly disclaims any obligation to update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, changes in assumptions or otherwise. Now, I will turn the call over to José Manuel, beginning on slide number four. José Manuel Daes: Thank you Rodny and thanks everyone for participating on today's call. I will begin with a review of our first quarter highlights, Chris will then discuss our operating highlights in…

Chris Daes

Analyst

Thank you, José Manuel and good morning to everyone on the line. Moving to our first quarter 2017 result summary on slide number five. We have grown our business significantly since 2014 with majority of that growth coming from the U.S. During the first quarter, we grew topline revenue by 3.1% compared to the prior year period. This growth was mainly attributable to the addition of one month of GM&P revenues in the U.S., which more than offset a shift in the timing of three large commercial U.S. projects in our backlog to subsequent quarters during the year and the late construction activity in Colombia. U.S. based revenues were 70% of total sales, compared to 63% in first quarter 2016. Adjusted EBITDA of $13.7 million continue to represent a strong margin at 20.9% of sales driven by our low cost vertically integrated operations. That being said, compared to the prior year quarter, EBITDA and the associated margins were adversely impacted by higher fixed cost to support our unchanged 2017 growth expectations, which should drive margin expansions as we progress through the year. Moving to our backlog on slide number six. Demand for our products was strong throughout the quarter resulting in a healthy backlog at quarter end up 23.1% to a record $474 million compared to $385 million at the end of the prior year quarter. These backlog growth includes a $50 million contribution from the GM&P acquisition and an expansion of legacy backlog by $39 million year-over-year. For a more balanced comparison, we also show fourth quarter backlog on a pro forma basis to demonstrate the significant traction for our products and services during first quarter. It is important to note that we have revised our first quarter 2016 pro forma backlog to $444 million versus the prior stated…

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Thank you Christian and good morning to everyone on the line. Turning to our U.S. market update on slide number 12. During the first quarter, we continued to broaden our customer relationships and strengthened our presence in new markets across an increasingly diversified footprint. Our backlog is benefiting from our expanding reach to new markets and project types including multifamily, office buildings, high-rises and hotels. Underlying U.S. demand is strong and reinforced by a positive outlook suggested by the ABI index for the sixth consecutive year, especially in our key regions. Additionally, SMI data continues to suggest a mid single digit growth environment for 2017 nonresidential spending. Turning to a Colombian market update on slide number 13. Underlying market dynamics are consistent with expectations at the beginning of the year with GDP growth outlook at about 2.3% for the year. In Colombia, sales were down during the first quarter of 2017, mainly due to delays in construction activity which we expect to create pent-up activity ramping up revenues over the rest of the year. Overall, builder sentiment remains strong and we expect economic activity in the future to rebound nicely as we move through the balance of the year. However, due to the first quarter impact, we believe a flattish market is a fair assumption in Colombia for 2017, which implies some acceleration of activity for the remaining of the year. Moving to our financial highlights on slide number 15. During the first quarter 2017, we operated on our cost structure built out to support our 2017 growth objectives with revenues expected to ramp up as we move through the year. Gross margin was primarily impacted by a higher mix of engineering and installation revenue from GM&P along with a $1.6 million in higher D&A expense resulting from the robust…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Jeremy Hamblin with Dougherty & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Good morning guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to first explore some of the revenue trends and you saw a pretty massive acceleration, 25% growth in the United States. In terms of thinking about that and looking at your backlog moving forward, is that is probably a good benchmark to use for what you are thinking on U.S. growth for most of this year? We looking at 25% just in your U.S. business? And in conjunction with that, should we be thinking that going forward, roughly two-thirds or more of your business is going to happen in the U.S.?

Operator

Operator

Jeremy?

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Can you hear José?

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

I cannot.

Operator

Operator

Give me just one second. José Manuel Daes: It seems like we have a telephone problem, sorry. Jeremy, how are you? Good to hear from you.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

I am well. Thank you José Manuel. José Manuel Daes: Listen, Jeremy. We expect the business in the U.S. to keep growing as we are proliferating new markets, as I have been telling you. Now we have work in New York and Boston. We have work in the West Coast in California and also in Washington state. So we expect business in the U.S. to keep growing and that's a fair assumption.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

So in terms of the total portion of business though, are we looking at, maybe 65% to 70% going forward? José Manuel Daes: Yes. 65%, yes.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. José Manuel Daes: 65% to 70% on every quarter. And even though we are closing a lot of businesses also in Colombia, but when you take the whole picture, it will keep the same proportion.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of thinking about just the next quarter, obviously, your guidance implies some pretty significant revenue acceleration. How does the flow of revenues, Santiago, look for the year? I mean, are we looking at $95 million to $100 million in Q2 and then accelerating further from there? Or can you give me anymore color on how Q2 trends are tracking?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Yes. Actually, Jeremy, it's going to be back-loaded into the second half. So we are expecting for the second quarter is closer to the $85 million figure and then ramping up over the last two quarters. And that's partially related to the backlog shift that we discussed earlier. So we think that sequentially, Q2 is going to be stronger and then Q3 and Q4 are going to be the strongest to get to the guidance that we provided.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. So we are looking at -- is the breakdown for Q3 and Q4 relatively equal?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Yes.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Or is it slanted a little more towards -- okay. José Manuel Daes: So it is going to be Q3 and Q4 are going to very strong, because as I have been telling you, three to five large jobs in the U.S. got delayed and instead of starting in December, January, they are starting in June, July. And they will end up in June, July next year. So the second, the third and fourth quarter are going to be our strongest this year. They are usually the strongest, but the four is a little less than the third. But this year, I believe we are going to be along the same or maybe even more the fourth quarter.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. And so can I assume that you are going to do at least $105 million then in Q3 and Q4? José Manuel Daes: Of course, we hope so. We need to do it.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

All right. Okay. José Manuel Daes: And we need to be on time on the job. So if we don't deliver those amounts, then we are going to be late. And we are never late.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. And the delays, now I also saw though that your international businesses or your business in Colombia and Panama was down in the first quarter. You mentioned some delays in the U.S. projects. What are you seeing in those local markets in Colombia and Panama as well? José Manuel Daes: Somehow, everything turned out to be the same way. In Panama, we got a slump like for three, four months. We didn't close any business and now we are closing a lot of business. But when you close a business, you have to do the shop drawings, you have to talk to the architect, many, many, many things that are open items. And then to deliver, in three to six months you start delivering the job. So what happened in the U.S. happened also in Panama and in Colombia. But by the same token, we see a lot of quoting going around. We are closing a lot of business. Our backlog is coming up. And at the end of the day, that means that we are going to deliver one day or another. So the third and fourth quarter are going to be strong and we look for 2018 to ramp up a lot too.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then in the last call. I think you mentioned that there was a little softness in the high-end luxury market in Florida. Wanted to just see if you could make a comment on whether or not you have seen some improvement in that end market? We are hearing that there has been some improvements in that market overall, which I think is encouraging for your business. But can you comment on that? José Manuel Daes: Yes. That is true. And that is the reason why a few of the jobs got delayed. For example, flat iron, which is around $20 million business got delayed. Now in the third or fourth quarter, we are going to be delivering around a month or two we start delivering the first windows is our goal. It is on a land which is a landmark because it's a job designed by a famous architect on the beach. Already got the approvals, already got the financing and by the end of the year, we are going to start delivering. And like that, I can imagine like five or six buildings in Miami bought. Let me tell you this, to my surprise, there are 20 new buildings going up, but for residential but rental. And this rental buildings, for example, Panorama, is an 87 floor building and is the highest, the tallest building south of New York and is already up all the way and is all for rentals. And the same person, the same owner is going to do two more buildings and we are already talking to them and both are around 80 to 100 floors.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Well, that's great to hear. I wanted to then shift gears to the new markets that you mentioned, which sounds very exciting and thinking about Europe and the Middle East and obviously lots of construction activity and pickup in those markets. You mentioned that you have staffed a sales branch out of Italy. How should I be thinking about the margins for that business given that it's a little bit further away for you to deliver? I am assuming that the product that provided to those regions is also coming out of Barranquilla. Are the margins going to be the same? Are they going to be a little bit lower little, a little bit better? Can you speak to the margin profile of that business that you are winning in Europe and the Middle East? José Manuel Daes: Okay. Well, let's talk about the Middle East, the one that we already closed. That business has the same margin as every other business. Believe it or not, from Barranquilla to Doha, which is the port in Qatar, we are paying only $1,000 more per container than to Miami. And so it is a minimal amount compared to the cost of the goods in the container. So the margins are going good. The margins are the same. At the beginning, for example, in Europe, the first or the second building are going to be a little lower margin in order to get in because a newcomer is not easy to get a business unless you show them a reason why. But after that, the margins in Europe are much better because they have triple panes, double insulated and then they have this really well-designed country walls and that cost a lot of money and since our labor is very cheap, it makes our margins improve.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then in terms of the, you mentioned the residential business. I recognize that's still a relatively small piece of your sales, but it sounds like that has seen some traction. Can you just speak to the end markets on your residential side in Florida? How attractive they look? The type of growth that you are expecting this year and next? José Manuel Daes: Yes. Well, the products have been so well received that we are seeing every month an increase in orders of around 20% to 25%. Even though it is very little, we were expected to sell around $10 million this year. I believe it's going to at least 40% to 50% more than that. And for next year, if things keep coming like this, we expect to do around $24 million to $25 million in that line. Our product, we believe is much better than the competition. The only thing is that we don't have a track record and people tend to prefer the track record business because they know they deliver and delivery is important in this business. But we are penetrating and that line in two, three years is going to be at least 20% to 25% of our business.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Right. Shifting gears a bit. Santiago and Christian, if you could talk a little bit more detail about the solar project, the $15 million investment? You mentioned that the natural gas savings could be 20% or more. What does that amount to on a cash savings basis? And then what would the cost tax savings be over time on an annualized basis?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Yes. Jeremy, so this is basically, the 20% that you are mentioning of the overall annual cost ends up being about $0.5 million for the first year. So that's basically based on the first phase, which we have now completed. The idea would be to complete subsequent phases. So for 2017, what we are estimating is between $400,000 and $500,000. But after a couple of years, that amount could be substantially higher. And the first phase has performed well. So the intention is to move forward with the second phase, which we are expecting to start next month and complete within the next three months. So it's a substantial saving amount on our SG&A.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

So it could be over $2 million long-term on annualized savings, it sounds like?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Overtime?

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Yes.

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Right now we just completed three megawatts of our project that is 15 megawatts. So right now it's just a portion of what the overall project could end up being.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

And then the savings on the tax side?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

Yes. Basically, you get to write off 50% of your investment price and that tax savings, we are going to realize in 2018. So for your model, you wouldn't assume any tax savings for 2017, but that will be done for next great.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Great. And then the GM&P acquisition, I wanted to see after you a couple of months here of absorbing the deal, what types of synergies on the revenue front and what types of savings are you seeing from that deal?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

So far we are still integrating the operation, Jeremy. We think we can save some SG&A basically, by integrating both operations. But the business are different in the sense that what they do provide is installation, engineering and designing which is not something that we have on our end as far as Tecnoglass goes. So the main synergy are going to come just from the administrative side and the selling side more than the operation itself. Right now for the first month, we are incorporating these savings into the results that you saw. Hopefully, as we move through the year, that's going to be ram ping up.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. And then just one more and I will hop out of the queue and let others ask questions. In terms of CapEx, your CapEx is down meaningfully. What is the CapEx guidance for the year? And what's you depreciation and amortization guidance for the soap?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

So basically we had estimated maximum of $10 million for the year. So if you see our results for the first quarter, we are definitely in line with those projections. We ended up with about $2 million, which is mainly associated with the solar panel project completion and very little maintenance CapEx. As you know, our equipment is less than five years old. So our maintenance CapEx is very limited. Given the fact that we are going to move forward with the second phase of the solar panel project, I think it's a fair assumption to assume maximum CapEx of $10 million for the year.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

And depreciation and amortization?

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst

About $4.5 million a quarter. So I will tell you, about $17.5 million for the year.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks guys and good luck this year. José Manuel Daes: Thanks Jeremy.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Rygiel with FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning gentlemen. Nice quarter. José Manuel Daes: Good morning Alex. How are you?

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Very good. José Manuel, could you expand a little bit upon how we should think about the timing of revenue from your new office in Italy as it relates to demand coming out of Europe and the Middle East? What should we be looking for in 2017? Is there a target that maybe we can look for in 2018? And then I have a follow-up. José Manuel Daes: Well, let me tell you, 2017 in Europe is going to be nonexistent because within the time that you quote you know all the engineering and the final design assist, you are going to be delivering at least in March to June of 2018. So we don't expect any business for this year. We expect around $10 million to $20 million for next year in Europe. And then on, it's going to go higher and higher. So we show that we can perform and that we can do the buildings, people will get more confident and we will get a lot more business. Now, in the Middle East, we already have a business and we expect this year to deliver $30 million and next year we hope to get at least another $20 million or $30 million from the Middle East. But that is uncertain. Until you have the business you cannot, but we expect around $20 million to $30 million a year from the Middle East in the next two to three years every year.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

That's great. Could you also address raw material cost inflation, if you are seeing any? And any thoughts of that developing over the next 12 months?

Chris Daes

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

This is Christian. We actually don't see any -- the only price going up is aluminum and we have already signed a deal for aluminum for all of 2017. We bought ahead of time around 700 tons of aluminum, which is what we consume every 700 hundred tons per month. That is what we take every month. And so the price is fixed. And we are not taking an increase in the price. Obviously, we are closing now having into account the new price of aluminum which is around $1,900. And in regards to glass and all other materials, we have stability for at least the next 12 months. There is no problem. We are right on track. And we expect to, with the ramp up of sales, invoicing now in second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter to start seeing all the benefits of this.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

And lastly, as it relates to the three to five projects that experienced some delays, was there anything common with regards to those delays? Was it weather-related? Permit related? Or financing related? José Manuel Daes: Well, there were a few reasons why they were delayed and each one is different. For example, the one in Brickell, which is Flatiron, they had some design changes because of the market change. So they delayed a little bit that job. It's already going up. Then the one in Paramount which is a huge tower in downtown Miami, they were having problems with the financing or not problems, delayed financing and finally they got it and they are they are going up also. We are released to deliver the windows. You can see the building going up. 8701, which is designed by Renzo Piano, the Italian architect, until they reach 70% of sales, the bank wouldn't give them the financing because of the tight conditions now implied by the banks in Miami. And now they reach their target. So the bank gave the financing. Many things, but the buildings are going up and we got the jobs that we already working on the windows to be delivered between June and July and on.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

That's great. Thank you very much. Nice quarter.

Santiago Giraldo

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks Alex.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of a question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back to José Manuel for closing comments. José Manuel Daes: Well, thank you everyone for being on the call. We are very enthusiastic to reach this year's targets. As we said before in the last call, this quarter was going to be the slowest one. The second quarter is going to be better and the third, the fourth are going to be record quarters for the company. And we believe that 2018 is going to be a record year too. We have many things going that we cannot share right now, but sooner than later we will. Keep it up. Thank you for being on the call. And thank you for investing with us.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and we thank you for your participation.