Taseko Mines Limited (TGB) Q2 2025 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Taseko Mines 2025 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. With that, I will turn the call over to Mr. Brian Bergot. Sir, you may begin.

Thank you, Jeannine. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining Taseko's Second Quarter 2025 Conference Call. The news release and regulatory filing, announcing our financial and operational results, was issued yesterday after market close and is available on our website at tasekomines.com and on SEDAR+. On the call today is Taseko's President and CEO, Stuart McDonald; Taseko's Chief Financial Officer, Bryce Hamming; and our COO, Richard Tremblay. As usual, before we get into opening remarks by management, I would like to remind our listeners that our comments and answers to your questions will contain forward-looking information, and this information, by its nature, is subject to risks and uncertainties. As such, actual results may differ materially from the views expressed today. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, I encourage you to read the cautionary note that accompanies our second quarter MD&A and the related news release as well as the risk factors particular to our company. These documents can be found on our website and also on SEDAR+. I would also like to point out that we will use various non-GAAP measures during the call. You can find explanations and reconciliations regarding these measures in the related news release. And finally, all dollar amounts we will discuss today are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise specified. Following opening remarks, we will open the phone lines to analysts and investors for questions. I will now turn the call over to Stuart for his remarks.

Okay. Thank you, Brian, and welcome, everyone, to our second quarter results conference call. I'll start with an update on our operations and projects and then pass it to Bryce for a closer look at our Q2 financials. It's been a busy few months for us, and generally, I think we're making good progress across our business with a few significant milestones achieved at our projects recently. It's also been an interesting time in the copper markets globally, and the picture for U.S. copper tariffs is now clearer. I'll come back to that topic in a minute. But I want to start with a Gibraltar update. So as noted in our last quarter's earnings release, our mining rates at Gibraltar were impacted earlier this year by challenging conditions in the upper benches of the Connector Pit. In the second quarter, mining advanced into better ground and mine tonnages increased dramatically to a total of 30 million tons for the quarter. That's 31% higher than Q1, and in fact, the best mining quarter in the last 4 years. As a result, we continue to expect a strong rebound in production in Q3 and then even better production in the fourth quarter, continuing into 2026. In June and July, production was more than 35% higher than in April and May, as we started to access this higher-grade ore in the Connector Pit. Second quarter copper production was 20 million pounds, which was the same as the prior quarter and in line with plan. Copper grades were 0.20%, and recoveries were 63%. We're through the worst of a low-quality ore and steadily transitioning into better grades with less oxidation, which will also result in higher recoveries. Moly grades and recoveries are also expected to improve significantly in the second half. Total cash costs, or C1, reported at $3.14 per pound in the second quarter, will also decline in the second half as production levels rise. We reported copper cathode production at Gibraltar in the second quarter as well, as leaching operations commenced on 1 of the 2 leach pads, and the Gibraltar SX/EW plant was restarted in late May. After a quick ramp-up, the plant operated at steady state for most of June and July up until a couple of days ago, when a transformer issue took the plant down. That issue has just been diagnosed yesterday afternoon, and we expect 6 to 8 weeks of downtime for that plant. It's a short-term issue with less than 1 million pounds of production impact. On the plus side, we've continued to see positive ore reconciliations in the Connector Pit to more oxide ore than expected. And we're now thinking that SX/EW plant could run for at least 15 years and possibly longer. Turning over to Florence now. As we highlighted with our recent construction update, the project continues to advance smoothly on schedule and with costs continuing to track in line with our previous guidance. Really happy with the work that's being done by our Capital Projects team and the key contractors on site. With the overall project completion over 90%, activities will soon be shifting to commissioning. Key systems such as the electrical substation, which was completed last month, are now starting to be released from the construction team and placed under the control of our growing operations team. All of the wellfield drilling that was planned for the construction phase is now complete, and electrical and pumping equipment is being installed into the wells. The next key milestone will be the initial injection of solutions, which we're targeting to achieve in September. And this would allow enough time to acidify the wellfield and produce first copper cathode before the end of the year. Through the first 18 months, construction CapEx is tracking in line with updated guidance we issued last year. At the end of the quarter, USD 239 million has been incurred, leaving only about 10% of the total capital outstanding. The team is now working on the detailed operating plans for the ramp-up next year, which will require additional wells to be drilled to get us to the -- up to the design capacity for the plant of 85 million pounds per year. So all this to say, America's next new copper mine is advancing smoothly and nearing completion. We're not there yet, still a lot of work to be done, and we're entering a critical phase here over the next few months to get the startup. Obviously, the recent copper tariff news has driven a lot of volatility in the COMEX copper price with metal traders and other financial speculators trading into the COMEX market and then rapidly exiting as the COMEX premium disappeared with the tariff announcement last week. Despite all the headlines, the LME copper price, which is the global benchmark, has remained stable and strong. For the U.S. copper market, the current administration is clearly incentivizing U.S.-based manufacturing of finished copper products. This is a very positive development for Florence, which will soon become one of the few U.S.-based suppliers of refined copper. The U.S. will remain a net importer of cathode in the coming years, and our Arizona-based operation will have a significant geographic advantage in delivering refined metal to the growing U.S. manufacturing base. And just a reminder that at a copper price of USD 3.75 per pound, that's the price used in our last technical report, Florence has an after-tax NPV of USD 930 million. At today's price of around USD 4.40 per pound, the NPV is closer to USD 1.2 billion to USD 1.3 billion. That's not yet reflected in Taseko's equity, but we're working hard to unlock that value over the next year. In the longer term, Taseko has other growth assets in our portfolio, and we've had some significant developments on those projects in recent months, which I'll touch on now. The New Prosperity Agreement announced in June was a very important milestone for the company. And I think it came as a surprise to the market even though we've been making good progress towards an agreement over the previous year. The dialogue actually started about 5 years earlier. So it was certainly a lengthy process, and I want to recognize the commitment and perseverance of both the Province of BC and the Tsilhqot'in ’in National Government to complete that deal in June. The agreement allows all 3 parties to turn the page on a historical conflict and move forward in a constructive way. It ends years of litigation while providing certainty as to how the significant copper-gold deposit at New Prosperity could be developed in the future. Taseko has received a $75 million cash payment from BC in exchange for a 22.5% equity interest in the project, which has been placed into a trust for the Tsilhqot'in Nation. The trust will only transfer this interest if the Tsilhqot'in consent to pursue mineral development on the property. BC and the Tsilhqot'in will now enter into a land use planning process, and so the door remains open to future mine development, but only with the consent of the nation. Taseko retains 77.5% ownership of the New Prosperity mineral rights, and we can divest some or all of that interest at any time. I believe if we're patient, there will be a further opportunity down the road to realize significant value from this world-class asset. For our Yellowhead project, we recently announced the results of an updated technical study with significantly improved economics as well as the formal commencement of the environmental assessment process for the project. The new technical report includes updated CapEx, operating costs and long-term metal price assumptions and describes a mine that would produce 178 million pounds of copper annually over a 25-year mine life at a cash cost of around $1.90 per pound average. At $4.25 copper, the project has an NPV of CAD 2 billion and an after-tax IRR of 21%. That's not bad for a project that we acquired for only $16 million just a few years ago. When you consider the production profile, the mine life and the project economics, Yellowhead stacks up very well against all the other North American copper development projects, and we will continue to derisk the project as it moves through the permitting process. In early July, the initial project description was accepted by the BC Environmental Assessment Office and the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada. Project is also advancing through the early stages of the Simpcw First Nation's assessment process, and we continue to have an active and ongoing dialogue with them. We've also held a number of well-attended open houses in local communities with more planned as part of the EA process. We have a few years of permitting and engineering work ahead of us at Yellowhead, and we'll continue to maintain a disciplined approach to project spending during that period. So we've got lots on the go and exciting times ahead for our North American copper business. I'll wrap it up there. I want to thank all of our shareholders for their ongoing support. And I'll now pass the call over to Bryce for a financial update, and we can then open up the line for questions following that. Over to you, Bryce.

Thank you, Stuart. I'll provide some additional details on the financial aspects of the second quarter. Sales in the second quarter totaled 19 million pounds at an average realized price of $4.32 per pound, generating revenue of $116 million for Taseko. Lower sales and a stronger Canadian dollar contributed to the lower quarter-over-quarter revenue. Net income for the quarter was $22 million or $0.07 per share, and that's mainly driven by unrealized foreign exchange gain on our U.S. dollar-denominated debt with the strengthening Canadian dollar at quarter end. On an adjusted earnings basis, we posted a net loss of $13 million or $0.04 loss per share. As Stuart mentioned, mining rates at Gibraltar in the second quarter were significantly higher than the first quarter. This increased total site cost to $117 million. Despite the increase in mining rates, strip ratio was lower as a result of a larger portion of the mine tons being oxide ore, and that oxide ore was placed on the heap leach pad. Stuart mentioned the positive ore reconciliations we've been seeing. Capitalized strip for the quarter was slightly lower. It was $31 million, and it remained elevated as waste tons as the sulfide ore tons were above the average strip ratio for the Connector Pit. We expect that strip ratio to decline significantly in the second half of the year now that we have opened up access to the ore in Connector. Cost on a per pound basis for the quarter were $3.14 per pound. That's based on copper produced. This was higher than the previous quarter, and it was due to lower capitalized stripping and lower moly production. It is also impacted by costs associated with the oxide ore that are added to the heap leach pads, which is left inside operating costs, for which production comes in future periods. So it skews that ratio by about $0.40. Adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter was $17 million and was impacted by lower production and sales volumes and higher costs associated with the mid-grade stockpiles, which have a higher cost on a per pound basis. At Florence, we incurred $33 million of construction costs in the second quarter as construction has now passed peak spend. To date, $239 million has been incurred on the construction of the commercial production facility, which is still tracking towards our revised estimate and guidance, which was at $232 million plus up to 15%. So we're heading towards around $265 million for total construction costs. Quarterly operating costs have been increasing as management continues to build out the operations team and prepares for commissioning a ramp-up later this year. We ended the quarter with cash, consistent with the first quarter with a balance of $122 million, and that leaves us current liquidity of just under $200 million after factoring in the $55 million that we've drawn revolving credit facility that's with National Bank and ING. Our quarter end cash balance also includes that $75 million payment from the BC government as part of the New Prosperity Agreement that we reached in June. And just a reminder of our copper price protection in light of some of the volatility that we've seen, we still have in place the minimum price of $4 per pound, and that's protecting 54 million pounds of production for the balance of 2025. So we are actively looking to extend our price protection into 2026, and we've been watching the copper market closely, looking for opportunities to fix that at a reasonable price, and that's primarily to cover the ramp-up of Florence that we have into the first half of next year. So with that, I'll turn it over to the operator for any questions. Thank you.

[Operator Instructions] Our question comes from the line of Craig Hutchison from TD Cowen.

I was wondering if you guys could give us some commentary on what you're seeing in terms of the grades here for Q3, Gibraltar and also the recoveries.

Yes. I guess, generally speaking, Craig, we're expecting both grade and recovery to step up meaningfully in Q3 back towards reserve grade averages or better, and then, probably better than reserve grade in Q4. So yes, that's probably as much as guidance as we'd want to give on a quarterly basis. But definitely, we're seeing now getting deeper into the pit higher quality ore and higher-grade ore. So that's a positive for the second half. And you should see that level, at least maybe not the Q4 level, but the second half averages kind of continue into the first few quarters of 2026 as well. So we shouldn't see any of the -- any more of the drop offs that we've had in the last couple of quarters.

Is the higher oxide material you're seeing in the Connector Pit, does that create a risk for recoveries here, especially in Q3? Or do you feel like you're through that and recoveries are back up into the high 70s or low 80s?

Yes. It's -- we're seeing it. The oxide oxidation, it's not a binary thing. It's not black or white. It's definitely a transition. We're pretty confident in our projections. We've got a good database of -- good geological database, and we're seeing the higher grade -- we're seeing flashes of the higher grade, the better-quality ore now and certainly expecting much more of that in the coming weeks and months. So...

Okay. Great. And then on Florence, as you guys have mentioned on past calls, you're targeting, I think, production somewhere in the range of 40 million to 55 million pounds next year, if I recall correctly. Is that still the case? Or do I have that wrong?

I don't know. I think the technical report -- year 1 of the technical report was around 40 million pounds. So that's the number that we have -- that technical report number is what we have out there so far. I think as I mentioned in my remarks, we are working through a detailed operating plan now going well by well and doing projections of how the ramp-up is going to go. So I expect as we get closer to start-up in the fall, we'll have more specific guidance we can talk about 2026. But yes, what we're seeing at this point is effectively what we have in the technical report.

Okay. Maybe one last question for me. What kind of pricing are you guys seeing right now on sulfuric acid?

Richard, do you want to talk about acid?

Yes. Yes. Yes, not a problem. Yes, we're seeing in the low $200 range for sulfuric acid right now. We've been -- I think I mentioned before, we've been in conversations with a number of different suppliers and actually have secured supply for this year from 2 different suppliers. So we're seeing in that low $200 range.

[Operator Instructions] Our question comes from the line of Duncan Hay from Panmure Liberum.

A couple of questions from me. Just on the capital cost, what -- should we expect any more capitalized stripping in Q3, first of all, at Gibraltar? And then second of all, at Florence, is the remaining spend there, is that going to be weighted to Q3 and it will drop off in Q4? Or will there be a sort of reasonable -- will it be the same across those 2 quarters?

Yes. Duncan, yes, no, it's definitely -- the remaining spend at Florence definitely weighted to Q3. Q4 is more commissioning and shipping into operations. So yes, you shouldn't see much capital left -- required after the end of Q3. There's always a bit of a lag when you're talking about cash flow, right, because we don't pay our bills immediately. But in terms of CapEx incurred, mostly it will be done at the end of Q3 at Florence. At Gibraltar, capital strip, no, that will really drop off in the second half. We are really going to be mostly an ore operating below the average strip rate, so I wouldn't expect to see much or any capital strip in the second half.

Yes. Okay. And just quickly on -- I missed what you said about the SX/EW plant at the beginning. You got some downtime there. Do you -- how much are you thinking production for the rest of the year and into next year from that?

Yes. Look, I mean, we're seeing that this is potentially 6 to 8 weeks of downtime. It's just an issue that just arose, actually was just diagnosed really yesterday. So that's less than 1 million pounds of production impact here, but obviously, mostly will be in Q3. That operation -- the guidance we've talked about that operation in the past producing 3 million or 4 million pounds a year. It is a seasonal operation, so it will operate until November, December and then shut down for the winter in Q1 next year. The other thing that's happening at the SX -- at the operation is we actually have 2 leach pads and only 1 of them has been activated so far, and the second pad will come online in 2026. So you'll see a little step-up in the production in that operation next year, maybe 4 million or 5 million pounds-ish next year. That's how we're looking at it.

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to the management for closing remarks.

Okay. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, operator. And thank you all for dialing in to our Q2 earnings call, and we'll talk to you again next quarter. Thanks again. Bye.

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