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BlackRock TCP Capital Corp. (TCPC)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 27, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. Welcome everyone to BlackRock TCP Capital Corp's Fourth Quarter and Year-Ended 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the Company's formal remarks. [Operator Instructions] And now, I would like to turn the call over to Michaela Murray, a member of the BlackRock TCP Capital Corp Investor Relations team. Michaela, please proceed.

Michaela Murray

Analyst

Thank you. Before we begin, I'll note that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements based on the estimates and assumptions of management at the time of such a statement and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Any forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of today and are subject to change without notice. Additionally, certain information discussed and presented may have been derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. Accordingly, we make no representation or warranty with respect to such information. Earlier today, we issued our earnings release for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2024. We also posted a supplemental earnings presentation to our website at tcpcapital.com. To view the slide presentation, which we referred to on today's call, please click on Investor Relations link and select Events and Presentations. These documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the Company's Form 10-K, which we filed with the SEC earlier today. Please note that we will shortly issue a corrected, earnings release due to a typographical error. The third sentence of the third paragraph under Consolidated Results of Operations has been corrected to refer to unrealized losses rather than unrealized gains. Our NAV and other statistics are presented correctly throughout. I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Phil Tseng.

Phil Tseng

Analyst

Thank you, Michaela, and thank you all for joining our call today. I will discuss our results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. I will also describe how we are approaching our portfolio construction and investments to return the portfolio to historical above-market returns, as well as outline a shareholder-friendly change we have implemented. I'll then turn the call over to our President, Jason Mehring, to review details of our investment activity and provide comments on the market environment. Last, Erik Cuellar, our CFO, will provide financial results before we open the call up for questions. We're also joined today by Dan Worrell, our Co-CIO. We are optimistic about our future and confident in our strategic plan to successfully navigate the challenges presented in 2024. Full year 2024 adjusted net investment income was $1.52 per share as compared to $1.84 per share in 2023. Annualized net investment income ROE for the year was 14.5%. The declines in net investment income and ROE primarily reflect the impact from lower base rates, and an increase in non-accruals and expenses versus the prior year. Fourth quarter adjusted net investment income per share was flat with last quarter at $0.36. At the end of the quarter, non-accruals represented 5.6% of the portfolio at fair market value as compared to 3.8% in the previous quarter. NAV per share was $9.23 compared to $10.11 per share, reflecting incremental investment portfolio markdowns, the largest of which were Razor, Securus and Astra. Our results were also impacted by market conditions, including tighter spreads as a result of the continued slower deal environment and declining interest rates. The vast majority of our portfolio continues to perform well and in a way that is reflective of our 12-year history of consistently delivering attractive returns as a public company.…

Jason Mehring

Analyst

Thanks, Phil. I'll start my comments with a brief overview of our portfolio. At year end, our portfolio had a fair market value of approximately $1.8 billion invested across 154 companies in more than 20 industry sectors and with an average position size of $11.7 million. 91.2% of our portfolio was invested in senior secured loans, 94.5% of which were floating rate. Investment income was distributed broadly across our diverse portfolio with more than 77 of our portfolio companies each contributing less than 1% to the total. At quarter end, the weighted average effective yield of our portfolio was 12.4% compared to 13.4% last quarter. New investments had a weighted average yield of 10.8%, while those that we exited had a weighted average yield of 14%. These statistics reflect decline in base rates and some spread reduction during the period. In addition, a portion of our repayments in the quarter were from higher priced second lien deals that we have not emphasized more recently. While overall M&A volumes remained below expectations, we continued to see a healthy flow of new investment opportunities in the quarter and took a highly selective approach to investing, emphasizing seniority in the capital structure, portfolio diversity and transactions where we are a lender of influence. We deployed a total of $121 million of capital during the quarter into nine new and nine existing portfolio companies. All of our new investments were first lien loans and at quarter end, 83.6% of the portfolio was in first lien loans, up from 81.3% in the prior quarter. In several instances, we chose not to maintain our involvement in deals that were repriced at lower yields or that were amended to include weaker covenants where we believe the risk outweighed the potential reward. As a result of our focus…

Erik Cuellar

Analyst

Thank you, Jason. Let me begin with our financial results for the quarter. As Phil noted, adjusted net investment income was $0.36 per share for the fourth quarter and $1.52 per share for the full year 2024. As detailed in our earnings press release, adjusted net investment income excludes amortization of the purchase accounting discount resulting from our merger with BCIC and is calculated in accordance with GAAP. A full reconciliation of adjusted net investment income to GAAP net investment income, as well as other non-GAAP financial metrics, is included in our earnings release and 10-K. Gross investment income for the fourth quarter was $072 per share. This amount included recurring cash interest of $0.52 nonrecurring income of $0.06, recurring discount and fee amortization of $0.03, PIC income of $0.08 and dividend income of $0.03 per share. Fixed interest income for the quarter was 10.5% of total investment income. Operating expenses for the fourth quarter were $0.32 per share and included $0.21 per share of interest and other debt expenses. As of December 31, 2024, the Company's cumulative total return did not exceed the total return hurdle. And as a result, no incentive compensation was accrued for the three months ended December 31, 2024. Additionally, as Phil mentioned, our advisor has agreed to waive 1/3 of our base management fees for three quarters beginning on January 1, 2025, and ending on September 30, 2025. Net realized losses for the quarter were approximately $3,000 or less than $0.01 per share. Net unrealized losses in the fourth quarter totaled $72 million or $0.85 per share, primarily reflecting unrealized markdowns on the three investments Phil discussed earlier. The net decrease in net assets for the quarter was $80 million or $0.89 per share. As of December 31, 12 portfolio companies were on non-accrual status, representing 5.6% of the portfolio at fair value and 14.4% at cost. As Phil noted, we are working closely with our borrowers, their creditors and sponsors to resolve issues with the best possible outcomes for our shareholders. The remainder of our portfolio is performing well. Turning to our liquidity. Our balance sheet position remains solid, and our total liquidity increased to $615 million at quarter end with $519 million of available leverage and $92 million in cash. Unfunded loan commitments to portfolio companies at year end were 8% of our $1.8 million investment portfolio or approximately $144 million including only $62 million of revolver commitments. Net regulatory leverage at the end of the quarter was 1.14x which is within our target range of 0.9x to 1.2x. We have ample financing options to fund new investments with our diverse and flexible leverage program, which includes three low-cost credit facilities, three unsecured note issuances and an SBA program. The weighted average interest rate on debt outstanding at the end of the quarter was 5.2%, down from 5.4% at the end of the prior quarter. Now, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to open the line up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from Finian O'Shea with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead, Finian.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

On the dividend and the specials, can you give some color on your spillover now, I apologize if you gave that already, and what the target level will be?

Erik Cuellar

Analyst

Yes, Fin, I'll address first the spillover. We -- as you recall, we declared a special of $0.10 in Q4 of 2024. We did not distribute the full amount. We probably have about $0.10 or so of carryover from the prior quarter into this quarter, but I'll let Phil address the dividend level.

Phil Tseng

Analyst

Yes, Fin, we really try to be very thoughtful here on the regular dividend level. Our approach was to really think about a sustainable level based on the earnings power of the portfolio today. But there are a number of considerations that we had to make in coming up to this decision. Obviously, the ongoing impact of base rates coming down, they're lower today than they have been over the past few years. And of course, the current spread environment, it's been tightening, I think as most in industry have come to recognize. And so, as we rotate the portfolio over time from repayments into new deployments, we are seeing some spread compression there. And of course, our non-accruals will end up yielding less interest income. So, what we really want to do is try and be thoughtful here around a true sustainable regular dividend level, and that's where we arrived. But of course, we understand that we do want to provide strong total shareholder returns here and therein lies our approach around the specials and the guidance accordingly for Q2 and Q3.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

And just sort of a platform question, I'm not sure to what extent you can discuss, but we've all seen the BlackRock HPS acquisition, and it appears that TCP will be a unit roll-up to HPS, and that means your investment portfolio management, et cetera, function becomes part of theirs. So, do you have any, like should we brace for any strategic change in, say, your investment strategy or anything like that?

Phil Tseng

Analyst

Yes, that's a fair question. The HPS headline has been out there since BlackRock agreed to the acquisition of HPS back in December. I don't expect there to be meaningful change. I can't really go into much detail around the transaction, given that it hasn't closed yet, and we expect it to close at some point in the middle of this year, subject to regulatory approvals. But our team is laser-focused on business as usual, particularly our existing portfolio, and seeing this portfolio through some of these performance-related issues. But I think, importantly, Finn, the acquisition of HPS does highlight BlackRock's deep and growing commitment to private credit and direct lending, particularly in the U.S, as you know, given their scale. And I think it will bring very much expanded resources to our business, including a network of borrower relationships and enhanced sourcing capabilities as well as just broader private credit expertise to our platform. So, we're very excited. I think one of the compelling aspects of the transaction is how complementary the HPS, U.S. Direct lending business as well as the BlackRock private market businesses are. So, I know we're excited. Our team is excited. And I think if understanding how to get the benefits of a larger platform that we've experienced to-date as being part of the BlackRock platform is any indication, but we're very much looking forward to having HPS as part of that.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

And is your like, just a sort of follow-up there. When BlackRock acquired TCP, I think you're in some blanket co-invest order where you see everything and your Board is entitled to claim everything that fits the mandate. Is that, like should we assume that that applies that, for example your funds and the HPS funds will be together in a co-invest order, but perhaps as you point out, like to be determined if there's cross pollination of deals?

Phil Tseng

Analyst

We look forward to providing more details at a later date closer to when the deal comes to a close, but at this time we can't make comments.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

And I understand you're being as open as you can on the assets. But I mean, what level of confidence should we have that this is it, so to speak, in terms of the write downs, right? I mean, obviously, the Amazon aggregators have been a problem for a while and SellerX might be improving, but Razor was a big markdown. So, I mean, how much confidence should we have that that the NAV well, there can be volatility to your point. It's not an even pathway, right? But that this is a realistic, floor level or is there just more things we should be worried about in the portfolio?

Phil Tseng

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

Yes. Robert, that's a fair question. We're obviously laser focused on trying to manage the existing non-accruals and the positions that have shown meaningful markdowns. The Razor markdown, which was the vast majority of the markdowns for the quarter, did come as a surprise to us. Partly, there was an expectation that the recent equity investor that came in just about two quarters ago was going to continue supporting the business, but that went into different direction, hence the meaningful markdown. Aside from that, most of the markdowns came from the existing cohort of assets that have been on the list, so to speak, on the non-accrual list in particular. So, outside of those names, will there be ongoing markdowns or potential non-accruals, there may be, but I think it's largely been centered around the assets that we've been discussing.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

I appreciate that. If I look at, one of the new ones, Renovo. Remodeling, I have to assume that there's exposure to lumber tariffs and maybe remodeling products from China and maybe China tariffs as well. But so, what's the -- it was seeing slower demand, but now maybe faces tariffs going forward as well. So, I mean, what's the risk on something like that, that there's incremental deterioration and that's just obviously a new non-accrual rather than the existing group to your point that a lot of the issues have been restricted to that, but there are some new ones?

Jason Mehring

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

Sure, this is Jason. I'm happy to try and take a swing at the Renovo answer. And I think on that front, the underlying issues there have certainly been in part because of issues with inflation and sort of consumer appetite to bite off home projects, but there also have been some just operational sort of execution issues, which are probably easier to address. The one thing about this particular platform and something we thought about at the time of our initial investment is that the sorts of projects that they focus on are smaller dollar amount as opposed to comprehensive home redos or remodels. So, number one, it ought to be a little less volatility based on our work and our experience within that market as there is elsewhere. And then secondarily, a lot of the things that they focus on are come from, like windows, for example, come from supply chains that are domestic as opposed to coming from abroad. Now that doesn't mean that they're 100% insulated from what might happen with commodity or material prices broadly. But our current read right now is that they're not necessarily specifically in the crosshairs of trouble because of where they're getting the underlying materials. Obviously, everything related to tariffs continues to move around and we're staying on top of it, but at the moment, we don't think that tariffs are necessarily a significant new issue in the context of that specific name at the moment.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

One more if I can, and I'm going to keep my tinfoil hat in the box at the moment, but the decision to waive one third of base management fees through the first three quarters of the year, positive for shareholders, so applaud that. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but at the same time, roughly the time that's expiring is the time that the HPS acquisition is supposed to close. So, I mean, is that -- is it just coincidental or is it waiving some management fees until that close and then review the new landscape? Is that kind of what's being laid out here?

Phil Tseng

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.

I think, Robert, I appreciate your insightfulness and creativity, but I think that is looking into it a little bit too much. It's not coincidental. We did try and take a thoughtful approach to really acknowledge the NAV decline. And the management fee waiver is one of several things that the advisor's done to really try and support TCPC. As you know, there was a reduction in our management fee last year from one and a half to one and a quarter to really be more aligned with the peer universe. And then our shareholder friendly incentive structure, I think that showed its merits this past quarter. So, I think it's a collection of ways that the advisors trying to support TCPC here, but there's nothing coincidental about -- sorry, there's nothing specific to the timing on HPS or any other matters.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Hi. I applaud the -- I echo Robert in terms of waiving the management fee and also reduction of dividend. Given everything that's going on and I appreciate you guys are handling a pretty hairy situation, and you have a really large debt maturity in 2026, $325 million, that's a 2.85% note. As I recall that's investment grade. I presume you want to keep the investment grade if you're able to, but should we look for lower leverage going through the year or so or what steps should we take to watch as you prepare for that refinance?

Erik Cuellar

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Yes. As you pointed out, that really is our next large maturity. We actually have a small piece coming due in December of 2025 as well. And certainly, we'll be looking to access the capital markets closer to that date. We're definitely focused on maintaining that investment grade rating from our rating agencies. Obviously, that helps with the process as well. But when we issue those notes, it's what we on a combined basis post-merger, we believe that we're going to be doing similar sizes in terms of issuances.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Okay. So, you're currently anticipating maintaining the investment grade?

Erik Cuellar

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Yes, we continue to have close discussions with our rating agencies and we have no reason to think otherwise.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Okay. And I guess kind of a pointed question. Your NAV per share decreased 22 in 2024 versus 9% a year earlier. And is what has changed? I know there was the acquisition. Is there additional management overhead from being part of BlackRock? And if so, if that's the case, it may not be serving you guys well in terms of the performance. Anything you could comment on that would be helpful?

Phil Tseng

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Yes, I think it's the result of the broader factors that go into these portfolios. There was obviously a rapid increase in rates in the back half of ’22 and through 2023. I think that is having a significant impact on borrowers who were levered pre rate rise, for example. That coupled with a slower growth environment given the higher rates across not just the U.S. but globally. It's putting pressure on a number of these operating companies and couple that with of course higher interest burden. So, I think it's a lot of that that's come to impact these businesses in different ways and that's largely what we're seeing. So, you're right, as you mentioned a lot that was in 2024 and I think that is a reflection of that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we have no further questions. And so, I’ll hand the call back to Phil Tseng for closing remarks.

Phil Tseng

Analyst

In closing, I want to thank our entire team at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp for all their hard work and our investors and analysts for your continued trust and support. Please reach out to us with any questions. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call and you may now disconnect your lines.