Paul Manning
Analyst · Boldhaven. Please go ahead
All right, let me write all those down. You had about four in there. Okay. So the first one, what gives me the confidence most simply that the level of new wins we're generating in the groups and the implementation of pricing. So across color, flavor in Asia, we continue to have really, really strong new win rates, we're still very active at customers, we're still very successfully selling our products. And to me, that is the number one thing that we can control. And if we don't execute on that, then we're not running the business properly. But we are executing on that. And that is running very, very well. And that bodes very, very well for the future. So that gives me a lot of confidence. Number two pricing, I think we've done very well on implementing pricing. We generate I was about high-single digit benefit in Q2. And we've been able to maintain that pricing in most cases and so we've been able to do that without sort of adding a lot of attrition to the business which is a very, very important factor. So those factors. Those are really the basis for my confidence, as I look to, even the Q3 and Q4, because these wins, and as I describe them, I mean, they start and then they'll run their cycles, across food, across personal care, very high-quality wins, as well. I think that's another good factor. To your point about flavors, kind of starting to see some improvement. In Q3, yes, I think flavors will start seeing some improvement in Q3. Again, a customer can't destock forever. And we're nearing the end for many. And in fact, we've already achieved the end for some particularly say in our sweet flavor categories, where I noted earlier that there's only so much a customer could have held as inventory, given the perishability limitations of those products. So that those are all positives. So I think you'll start to see some improvement in flavor in Q3. And then you had Asia Pacific for Q2. So yes, I think we effectively had a number of our customers who accelerated destocking efforts in Q2, and they moved very, very purposefully, to do so. And in a way that was very, very directed and short-term. Let's get it done and let's get it done now. So that was completed substantially among those customers in Q2. And then, color, to the last part of your question, what gives me confidence in color, say, in Q4, and beyond. If there's one very, very strong foundation to our company, it's been certainly food colors. And our personal care business, I think, in general, color is up until the start of Q2 has been running really, really high win rates, really, really high revenue. And then, destocking came very, very dramatically here in Q2. We were still up 2% but we would call that fairly substantial destocking efforts, that was about a 9%, 10% headwind for colors in Q2. So much higher than in Q1. We may have a rate that is at least that much in Q3, probably about that much in Q3. And then we think flavors, unlike color, sorry, flavors kind of lingered a little bit longer, we think colors will be a little bit shorter, but more dramatic. So, but I don't know 100%. So I think that again, I look to the very, very solid win rate. Colors has the highest win rate in the company right now. They have excellent pricing implementation as well. And their attrition is very, very manageable. So I think those are other factors that give me significant confidence in colors. And then, again, with a new product launch activity, continue to improve. Colors is also very, very well positioned to capitalize with those new wins. So I think I covered all your questions in there.