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Silicom Ltd. (SILC)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 26, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Silicom Third Quarter 2023 Result Conference Call. All participants are present in listen-only mode. Following management formal presentation instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. You should have all received by now the company's press release. If you have not received it, please contact Silicom's Investor Relations team at EK Global Investor Relations at 1-212-378-8040 or view it in the News section of the company's website, www.silicom-usa.com. I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Kenny Green of EK Global Investor Relations. Mr. Green, would you like to begin, please.

Kenny Green

Management

Thank you, operator. I would like to welcome all of you to Silicom's third quarter 2023 result conference call. Before we start, I would like to draw your attention to the following safe harbor statements. This conference call contains projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future performance of the company. These statements are only predictions and may change as time passes. Silicom does not assume any obligation to update that information. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected, including as a result of Silicom's increasing dependency for the substantial revenue growth on a limited number of customers in the evolving cloud-based SD-WAN, NFV, and Edge market; the speed and the extent to which solutions are adopted by these markets; the likelihood that Silicom will rely increasingly on customers which provide these solutions in these evolving markets, resulting in an increasing dependency on a smaller number of larger customers; difficulty in commercializing and marketing of Silicom's products and services; maintaining and protecting brand recognitions; protection of intellectual property, competition; the disruptions to our manufacturing; sales and marketing; development and customer support activities; the impact of the war in Ukraine and the war in Israel; rising inflation; rising interest rates; volatile exchange rates and commodities prices; as well as any continuing or new effects resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic and the global economy uncertainty, which may impact customer demand through exercising greater caution and selectivity with their short-term IT investment plans; as well as other factors discussed in our annual report on Form 20F and other documents filed by the company that may be subsequently filed by the company from time-to-time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, following the company's disclosure of certain non-GAAP financial measures in today's earnings release, such non-GAAP financial…

Liron Eizenman

Management

Thank you, Kenny. Welcome to our financial results conference call discussing our third quarter 2023 results. Our third quarter's revenues were $30.1 million. This is in line with the expectations that we announced last quarter. In terms of profitability, we reported a third quarter net profit of $2.1 million and a third quarter earnings of $0.30 per diluted share. I would like to spend a few moments discussing the very limited visibility we are currently experiencing in the market, the factors currently at play which are impacting us as well as our expectations for the short and mid-term. As I'm sure you remember, since the global COVID shutdown three years ago in 2020, supply chains around the world became tight with very limited availability, especially of electronic components. Silicom, like many other companies, leveraged strong balance sheets to put in the increase and maintain high inventory levels of components. This was to ensure that we could continue to build the products that our customers need in a timely way, maintain strong business continuity, and most importantly, keep our clients happy with continued top quality service provision. Similarly, over the past two years, our customers ordered a high level of our products for months, so they can manufacture products for their customers in turn. And this ordering, a good portion for inventory, drove above average demand and a high backlog for our products in both 2021 and 2022. However, the second half of 2023 has seen a reversal in this trend. The supply chain's tightness has abated and customers which has built-up significant inventory are now drawing on their existing stock of our products where possible, and currently do not need to order significant quantities for months. Another impact is related to industry and economic headwinds facing our customers that began…

Eran Gilad

Management

Thank you, Liron, and hello everyone. Revenues for the third quarter of 2023 were $30.1 million, a 23% decrease compared with revenues of $39.2 million as reported in the third quarter of last year. Our geographical revenue breakdown over the last 12 months was as follows. North America, 82%, Europe and Israel, 15%, Far East and rest of the world, 3%. During the last 12 months, we had two 10% plus customers and our top three customers together accounted for about 35% of our revenues. I will be presenting the rest of the financial results on a non-GAAP basis, which excludes the non-cash compensation expenses in respect of options and RSU's granted to directors, officers and employees, acquisition-related adjustments, as well as lease liabilities, financial income. For the full reconciliation from GAAP to non-GAAP numbers, please refer to the press release we issued earlier today. Gross profit for the third quarter of 2023 was $9.3 million, representing a gross margin of 31.1%, and compared to a gross profit of $14.1 million, or gross margin of 36% in the third quarter of 2022. The higher portion of Edge Systems sold in the quarter, combined with recent higher price pressures from customers, mainly a result of the macroeconomic slowdown, pushed this quarter's gross margin below our expected range of between 32% and 36%. We are currently investigating the specific impacts of various factors on our future gross margin and intend to provide an updated gross margin expected range with the release of the next quarter results. Operating expenses in the third quarter of 2023 were $7.4 million compared to $6.9 million as reported in the third quarter of 2022. Operating income for the third quarter of 2023 was $1.9 million compared to operating income of $7.2 million as reported in the third quarter of 2022. Net income for the quarter was $2.1 million compared to $6.9 million in the third quarter of 2022. Earnings per diluted share in the quarter were $0.30. This is compared with earnings per diluted share of $1.01 as reported in the third quarter of last year. Now, turning to the balance sheet, as of September 30, 2023, the company's cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities totaled $67.3 million with no debt or $10.11 per outstanding share. During the third quarter, Silicom purchased approximately 144,000 shares at a cost of $3.9 million under the 15 million share repurchase plan we announced earlier this year. In total, Silicom has purchased an aggregate $48 million in share buybacks in recent years. As mentioned by Liron, based on our strong balance sheet and improved cash position, we intend to continue repurchasing our shares at full pace. That ends my summary. I would like to hand back over to the operator for the question-and-answer session. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. The first question is from Alex Henderson of Needham & Company. Please go ahead.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Great. Thanks operator. Hey guys. So, a lot of moving parts here. Can we start at the upper end of that discussion with respect to the ability to sustain profitability? I think you guys have had a track record over an extremely long time of maintaining profitability even in the toughest of events. Yet, when I put in the midpoint of the guide for the fourth quarter, and don't change anything else in the model, even with a 33% gross margin, I'm getting a very slight loss per share based on the prior operating structure. So, as we're looking into the fourth quarter and into the '24 timeframe, is it fair to say that you guys are going to do whatever it takes to not produce a loss on a quarterly basis and sustain your profitability track record?

Liron Eizenman

Management

Hey Alex, so maybe I'll start with the end. I would say on a manual basis we still plan to be I’d say break even or profitable, right. That's our goal on an annual basis and it does not mean that we will do everything we need to do in order to be there, because our plan based on the analysis we've done is that we can continue and develop the product that we need and continue to do everything that we need to do in order to grow the company in 2025 and beyond, and we don't want to sacrifice that. That's extremely important for us, but we took steps, we took a lot of steps in order to manage our cost to make sure that even at the estimated 2024 numbers or the plans that we have in mind we will be -- it will be on an annual basis, be break even or profitable.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Right. So, it does sound like you think that there is a risk that you could go to a lost position to on a quarterly basis over that time frame. Is that a fair statement?

Liron Eizenman

Management

It is possible, when we are looking mainly on the annual level. And as we said during the first part of this meeting, as we go into this situation with $65 million in the bank, we feel comfortable with that. So overall, we feel that we are getting into this bad situation in a reasonably good position.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

So there is a risk of losses on a quarterly basis. Okay. So in that context, obviously the yen’s fallen out a bit and OpEx should benefit from the yen. The shackle has fallen out a bit. It's down quite a bit partly because of the conditions, macro conditions partly because of interest rates, partly because of the war. And that should help your numbers. When will that start to benefit to the cost side?

Liron Eizenman

Management

Basically already. I mean in Q3, we've seen again there was some increase from Q2, but the impact of the last two weeks obviously were not something you've seen in the Q3 numbers. But overall we think, yes, obviously it will impact the numbers from Q4 and beyond.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

The company made a couple of comments on the call here. One, was the GM potential reset and the other one was the strategic review of your customers. What portion of the customer base do you think is at risk of a strategic review potentially shifting to integrators? And how much of a lag would that create in your -- in the timing of purchases if that occurs with those customers? Can you quantify a little bit around that what portion of the business is related to it?

Liron Eizenman

Management

How to give a number, but I would say it's not very big, but it's also not negligible. I mean we've seen those as trends not necessarily decisions that already been made completely, because those -- in some cases those are debates that are happening in certain companies, and in some cases it maybe decisions that have been made, but were not implemented yet. And as we know, sometime decisions not been taking and eventually not fully implemented, but we see it as some kind of phenomena that we see with several customers because of what happened during the COVID and the shortages in the company. So I hope that answers the question.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Well, actually it doesn't give me a lot of information. I was hoping you could give a little more granularity. Is it 10%, 15%, 25% of your customers are contemplating that kind of transition or is it zero to 5%, because it really is an important point. If it's a large percentage of your customers, i.e., 15%, 20%, 25%, that could cause some delay in the timeline for their ramping of their projects. So we can't analyze this externally. You need to give us some sort of detail around it?

Liron Eizenman

Management

You're right. I would say that I would estimate it at about $5 million annually.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Okay. So it's not a large factor. It's a more modest factor.

Liron Eizenman

Management

Yes, and still I would say this is at risk. I mean, it's not that we're losing those $5 million.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Yes, I don't really understand it, but for $5 million is moving the needle when you're having a $10 million, $15 million, $20 million swing in the fourth quarter. So that parameterizes it. And on the GM side of it, can you give us a little bit of more detail on what you think the reason for that 31% number was and is that a function of manufacturing variance? Is it a function of change in pricing? What caused that and how much at risk is our model, which is sitting at $32,900 gross margins in ‘24, should we be thinking of $31 million, $32 million or is that still $32,900, still an okay kind of calculus? And I know you don't want to give specific guidance, but you need to give us some guide where else there?

Liron Eizenman

Management

So number one is, and that Eran spoke to that is the mix of products. As we see that more edge products are being sold compared to the overall revenue that we have in the company, and those products usually have lower GP than we see the impact more and more. We also feel price pressure from customers due to the economic situation and the situation that has changed now that components are readily available, but it's very easy. So, I mean, we do feel the price pressure from companies. So those are the main two factors that I would say for that. It's not that something change dramatically in the way that we manufacture. I mean, it's pretty much the same, but the overall two factors of price pressure and the mix of products is causing that.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

So in the interim between now and when you can give us more consistent, complete guidance on what you think that guideline should look like for gross margin from the prior guide, I think was with $32 million to $36 million. Is it reasonable to think that the modeling that we're currently carrying of $32,900 is a viable number or should we be thinking of a range of $31 million to $33 million kind of thing, which in case we need to make some adjustments?

Liron Eizenman

Management

So we're looking to that. I mean, that's what Eran in his part talk about is that we're looking into that. We're investigating. We're trying to analyze that as best as we can and we would provide an update once we feel that we know what is the range we can get.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Well, Liron, we really need some guidance here. You're doing a major reset here on these numbers. And I think you need to step up to the plate and give us at least a preliminary thought on whether that band has to come down, at least over the short-term?

Liron Eizenman

Management

It will be lower. That's probably something we can say right now. But I think it will be responsible to give a number without doing the full analysis on our side, understanding exactly what we think it will be. And once we do that, we will come and then provide it.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

So let's talk about the commentary about the growth rate. '24 being a difficult year and then returning to growth. Your business is down quite substantially from recent levels. You're running at the fourth quarter, I call it $80 million to $85 million in run rate revenue. Is that kind of what we should be thinking about in the first half of '24? And then if you've evaluated your customers' inventory levels, it's one thing to say '24 will be difficult, but is it for the full-year of '24 or do we start to recover in the back half? Again, we really need some guidance here given the scope of what your reset looks like here. I think the investors deserve that.

Liron Eizenman

Management

The problem is the very low visibility that we have and the economic headwinds that we're seeing all around the world, this is impacted and it's not allowing us to see a very clear picture for all of 2024, not even for the first quarter of '24. I cannot tell you exactly what I'm expecting to see there. And yes, it's very limiting us from coming and saying something very definitive on 2024, apart from the fact that yes, we think it would be a challenging year due to all the reason that I provided before.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Ross Taylor of ARS Investment Partners. Please go ahead.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

Thank you. And I second the idea that obviously the sooner you can get clarity to investors, the better things will be for shareholders. At the end of the quarter, what was the inventory level?

Liron Eizenman

Management

It's written on the balance sheet, so it's $63 million.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

So right now you have $63 million in inventory. Do you think that inventory is all, is money good inventory?

Eran Gilad

Management

We believe so, yes.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

Okay. So what we're looking at is a case where you've got $63 million in inventory, $67 million in cash, which is, I saw my check adds up to $130 million. With the stock trading in the mid-16s right now, you've got an enterprise or market cap of about $112 million, which basically indicates that the market is saying that your business has a negative value, ex the inventory and cash. Couple of questions, a philosophical question which Silicom even when it was kind of hitting on all cylinders, struggled to get a valuation that would match what one would think it was worth on the numbers. Obviously, there's a lot of questions around the business here. I would assume that, you seem to believe you can well, next year might be a tough year to make money in part because you're investing in a business during a down period, that you believe you can return to some level of reasonable profitability in the past you were making, when you were doing in the low 20s and in revenues you were making about a $1.5 a share. How do you see the future when you have a market that literally basically says that the company itself as an operating entity, it's not worth less. It's actually worth less than zero?

Liron Eizenman

Management

We are running the company in the way that we believe will generate the most value to our shareholders in the long-term and that means that we need to keep developing product. We need to keep focus on our customers. We need to make sure that we manage our cost in a way that will allow us to make the investments we need in order to achieve all of that and that's what we're planning to continue in doing.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

How much do you see needing to invest over the next year in this effort?

Liron Eizenman

Management

Not sure that I fully understand the question but I mean the investment that we do will be across the board. We need to develop products, we need to have sales people going and then fetching new customer, new opportunities and maintaining our customers. We need Project Managers to make sure everything runs. We need the operations people. We need to run the company and we need to invest in inventory if we need to do that. So I mean in all of those aspects when we decided on the cost savings program that we did in order to reduce our cost. We took all of that into account to make sure that we have a company that is laser focused on the areas that we define as our growth areas and any area which is not in this focus area was reduced in order to make sure that we are focused on the area that will get us to grow back again in 2025 and beyond.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

Okay, and at this stage you have a lot of -- you've had a lot of wins, you continue to put wins up. But yet what you're seeing is you're seeing difficulty in getting those wins to convert to revenues. Looking at that as a setup have you seen a period like this in the past in your industry?

Liron Eizenman

Management

Well, I think that there are a few famous points in history when things went wrong. But yes, I mean the crisis and Silicom has been in business for many years. Obviously, 2008 was a tough point in time, 2001 was a tough point in time. So yes, I mean we were dealt in the past with such situations and in previous times, we did not enter into this position with $65 million in cash. But every crisis is different, every situation is different. And from here we believe that we have the right pipeline, we have the right team and we're entering with a position that will allow us to go back to grow in 2025.

Eran Gilad

Management

Okay, well obviously the sooner you can get investors and shareholders information on how you see things, obviously if the industry is itself opaque, it's going to be hard to give us insight. But as I said, it seems the market right now is pretty much giving up hope in this company. And it strikes me as there's a tremendous amount of value in this business. It's made good money in the past. It should be able to make good money in the future. It's just a matter of you being able to, I think convince or bring to the market the information to show us that this is an inning, not a game. So valuable pass and we'll move forward. Thank you very much.

Ross Taylor

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. This concludes the question-and-answer session. Before I ask Mr. Eizenman to go ahead with his closing statement, I would like to remind participants that a replay of this call will be available by tomorrow on Silicom's website www.silicom-usa.com. Mr. Eizenman, would you like to make your concluding statement?

Liron Eizenman

Management

Thank you, operator. Thank you everybody for joining the call and for your interest in Silicom. We look forward to hosting you on our next call in three months’ time. Good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes Silicom's third quarter 2023 results conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may go ahead and disconnect.