Good morning. My name is Kelly and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Shopify Fourth Quarter 2017 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Katie Keita, you may begin.

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We are glad you can join us for Shopify's fourth quarter 2017 conference call. We are joined this morning by Tobi Lütke, Shopify's CEO; Harley Finkelstein, our COO; and Russ Jones, our CFO. After prepared remarks we will open it up for your questions. We will make forward-looking statements on our call today, statements that are based on current assumptions and subject to risks and uncertainties, that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. We undertake no obligation to update these statements, except as required by law. Information about these risks and uncertainties is included in our press release this morning as well as in our filings with regulators in Canadian and the United States. Also, our commentary today will include adjusted financial measures, which are non-GAAP measures. These should be considered as a supplement to not as a substitute for GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations between the two can be found in our earnings press release, which is available on our website. And finally, note that because we report in U.S. dollars, all amounts discussed today are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise indicated. With that, I turn the call over to Harley.

Thanks, Katie and good morning everyone. 2017 was undoubtedly our best year yet and then only because it was another year of exceptional growth, it was also a year of immense learning that led to a lot of progress. Progress across our product lines, progress geographically across the globe and progress on how we do things internally across our organisation. I couldn’t be more proud of the team at Shopify for all the growth we’ve accomplished together in what’s been a formative year capped off by another successful quarter. Our number one priority in the fourth quarter as with every fourth quarter is to do every possible to power our merchants to their biggest selling season. So many of us at Shopify had been immersed in commerce or self and this helps build incredible empathy and know what our merchants need to thrive. We go to great lengths to make sure our merchants have everything they need to be successful, either by building it ourselves, enabling partners to build it, or by connecting merchants to those with the expertise. I believe that there is no other platform in the world that cares as much by merchant’s success as we do at Shopify. And this is why Shopify is doing well, because we make it possible for our merchants to do well. We saw proof points of this across the business in the fourth quarter, from our platform to our partner community to Shopify Plus. Let’s start with our platform. For the past three years we have continued to build new ways for merchants to expand their footprint by selling anytime anywhere. Two years ago, less than half of our merchants were using more than one channel to sell and this past quarter that number is closer to 60%. When you…

Thanks Harley. I’ll second Harley’s assessment of 2017 as their best year yet, just because of the excellent growth in every sense of the word, and also because we achieved both adjusted operating profitability and positive operating cash flow for the full year, thanks to a very strong fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter, revenue expanded 71% year-over-year, nearly the same pace as in Q3 to $222.8 million. Subscription solutions revenue grew 67% to $93.9 million. Monthly recurring revenue grew 62% and ended the quarter at $29.9 million. We ended 2017 with more than 609,000 merchants on the Shopify platform. Subscription solutions revenue growth was about five points higher than the monthly recurring revenue reflecting the faster growth in apps revenue as well as the seasonal impact of the variable component of plus pricing, which does not get reflected in recurring revenue and which was not a factor in last year’s fourth quarter. Even so Shopify Plus merchants continue to expand their share of monthly recurring revenue to 21% of overall MRR were $6.3 million compared with 20% of MRR or for Q3 of 2017 and 17% a year ago. Merchant solutions revenue grew 74% to $128.9 million, addition of new merchant selling on the platform double digit GMV growth for existing merchants and incremental revenue from shipping and capital which are still ramping all contributed. GMV grew to $9.1 billion up, $3.6 billion or 65% from last year’s fourth quarter. Of the billion in GMV over the Black Friday and Cyber Monday weekend, we had peak volumes of up to 1 million in sales per minute. The enormity of this form a platform standpoint cannot be overstated and we are very proud of our infrastructure and support teams that made this holiday period such a resounding success for our…

Thank you, Russ. All right, Kelly can we open the line for questions after I remind everyone that please limit yourself to just one question so everyone can have a chance to ask.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jesse Hulsing from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Yes, thank you. Harley, it seems like the efforts around Plus are going to intensify and I’m wondering if you look over the next few years, what’s the vision for Plus? Do you intend to compete in the IR 1000 IR 500 level of retailer against demand ware and hybrids and kind of the incumbent e-commerce tax spenders is that the intention here, or is it just to ensure that the merchants that you’re currently supporting can scale to any level? Thank you.

Great, thanks for the question. As you recall the reason we initially bill Plus was really for these home-grown success stories. I guess one of the things that we are quite pleased with is that a lot of other merchant that have existing businesses and other platforms including some of the big ones you mention have migrated over, so we’ve now had migrations from all the major platforms, equity enterprise platforms to Shopify Plus. Now that being said, what were are also seeing is that a lot of these bigger merchants, larger merchants are beginning to act a lot more entrepreneurial, so the stuff that we are producing across our platform integrations to things like Instagram or Apple Pay Integrations are things that even the largest merchants on the planet are looking for as well. So there’s no particular priority to go after the IR 1000, but we are seeing some of those merchants come to us as well. And I think they will be furthered by the fact that this year we are putting a lot more effort on not just the service we get around Shopify Plus but also for the product offering, and you’ve seen some stuff come out recently like Shopify Flow as well as wholesale that gets us closer there, but there is no priority to go after those big IRR 1000 in particular.

Thanks you, Jessie. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Nikhil Thadani from Mackie Research Capital. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Thanks guys, just a quick one for us. How should we think about the gross margin going forward especially on the subscription solutions line? Thanks. Tobi Lütke: Yes, so in subscription solution as is typical Q4 goes a little bit lower than Q2, Q3, that’s in part just because of the higher volume and so additional hosting cost associated with that. The one thing that we did in Q4 is because we are seeing our move to the cloud in both successful and we are able to pass through than we originally expected is we accelerated some depreciation on our data centers and you’ll see that again hits sort of the first half of next year. Overall I would say that initially having the cloud will be slightly more expensive than doing own data centers, but as we optimize those we do expect to see improvements over time. The nice thing about the move to the cloud is that it gives us more flexibility in terms of geographic coverage as well as reduces the capital that we need to spend on the data center, so overall net net it’s going to be a pretty positive impact, but on the margin specifically in the short term you can see a little bit of a dampening there.

Great, thanks Nikhil. Next question please

Our next question comes from Monika Garg from KeyBanc. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Hi, thanks for taking my question. To our merchant’s end of 2017, 609,000 which actually accelerated year-over-year, could you talk about what led to acceleration of merchant additions on the platform? Thank you. Tobi Lütke: Again as we saw throughout the year, we are really seeing very strong merchant growth and I think part of it is our ability as Harley talked about adding some of the bigger merchant to the platform. But more importantly, I think the ability to reduce the learning curve and in the case of some of the stuff we’ve done such as a furlough [ph] reduce the investment that it takes to be an entrepreneur is allowing more people to try out their ideas on the platform itself. And then last thing I would say is our international progress is been faster than we originally anticipated, so a good area of investment as we move forward.

Great, thank you Monica. Next question please

Our next question comes from Darren Aftahi from ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions, [Indiscernible].I’m just curious, you talk about the overall Tam of the business, but I’m curious with the 4600 plus customers ending the year. What are your thoughts on how big that opportunity is? Thanks. Tobi Lütke: I think in general Tam and determining our Tam has probably been the most difficult thing for us to do even at the time of IPO itself. And that continues to be challenging, because every time we turn around there is a brand new opportunity that presents itself. And so, certainly on the Plus side, the momentum we’re getting there, we expect that to continue. As I mentioned before, international continues to grow and we’re seeing more and more varied type of entrepreneurs that are now moving to the platform. So, we always had a big TAM and we’ve always said that we think it's understated. And I think what we are seeing now is that gets proven day-in and day-out.

Great. Thank you, Darren. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Michael Nemeroff from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. It’s for Russ. My question is on profitability. In Q4 you generated a non-GAAP operating margin greater than 5%, while you were growing greater than 70%. I know you said, Russ, the Shopify is a growth company. But at what level of growth or what size is the business before you either let more profitability come through? Or you just can't control the profits from occurring? Because as we look out several years into our DCF value the shares, the terminal multiple is swayed meaningfully by a margin. Do you see, Russ, Shopify becoming a 20% to 30% non-GAAP operating margin business over the next five to 10 years?

That's always been our sort of inspirational goal. And if you look at both Q3 and more importantly Q4, I think we had a nice check-in on that achievement. And so, yes, I do think we'll get there, but really given our sort of market and competitive position and what we’re seeing in commerce right now in the sort of that short to midterm our focus is really going be on continue to grow the number of merchants on the platform and our share of wallet, because we think creating a bigger piece of pie positions us much better once we want to sort of move more towards achieving longer-term profitability goals.

Thanks.

Sure. Thank you, Michael.

Our next question comes from Bhavan Suri from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. This is actually Vinay on for Bhavan. So I know you don’t guide the merchant count, but just thinking more generally and going forward given your guidance, do you think there's an opportunity in the market to sort of perhaps almost double your merchant count over the next three or four years? Or going forward in 2018, 2019, 2020 should we see sort of a dip in that merchant count considerably and then more an increase from ARPU and Plus year on? Thanks.

Yes. So, I think as we’ve talked over at least the last sort of 12 to 18 months, the MRR is actually more important than the merchant count itself, but given the opportunity that we’re seeing we expect strong -- continues strong growth on the MRR front and really Plus with its higher price points contribute nicely to that. And so, again, we just see a strong performance over the period of that you talked about there.

Got it. Thanks.

Thank you. Our next question please.

Our next question comes from Sam Kemp from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you perhaps call out what percent of GMV is now coming from Plus merchants or perhaps Plus and Advanced merchants? Thanks. Tobi Lütke: Yes. That number continues to grow. So if you combine the two together which is the right way to look at it because we do get Advanced Merchants moving up to Plus as part of their upgrade path. It continues to be over 50%. And that number continues to grow. And so, they do have a very meaningful impact on the GMV which is why providing other merchant solutions to get even their share wallet an area focus for.

Thanks, Sam. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Ross MacMillan from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thanks so much. Two if I could. Just maybe for Russ, as you -- obviously you’re adding merchant to the terrific rate, just curious what you're seeing on the cost to acquire those merchants? And is that moving down as you acquire more of the entrepreneurial type of merchant? And then second question, I’m just curious what the view on the drop shipping environment is going to be like over the next 12 to 18 months. There’s been a lot of articles on that. And how you think the drop ship world is going to sort play out here in the in the next 18 months or so? Thanks.

So I'll do the first one and I think Tobi can give you a better view on drop shipping. So, if you look at our CAC, it continues to remain relatively flat overall because we’re also getting larger merchants and looking at other ways to invest there. But the LTV has gone up. So if you look at our LTV to CAC, we actually have seen improvement there. And with that I’ll turn it over to Tobi for the drop shipping. Tobi Lütke: Hi, everyone. Yes, the drop shipping question is coming up, we honestly vested sort of debate out there about it and we’re looking at it with some amusement because I think the -- there’s a lot of industries that go through a similar move transition as retailers. So what the drop shipping really is, is just like you don’t want own or have the inventory. So you know like I started Shopify about 14 years ago with the snowboard shop. And one of my biggest optical we have almost like I had to purchase a snowboard which I have put my garage before I could mail them out. And the best thing possible at this point would have been if I could just simply get myself there to do maybe [Indiscernible] and then the manufacturer will send snowboard directly. In fact even if you look back in sort of retail history, everyone who at [Indiscernible] that Nike started as the centrally drop shipping product from Japan, right. So it has a long history of people trying to approximate that what we now have sort of product type as drop shipping through computer talk to each other directly. So, it’s really no different than people use to put on datacenters and like host their servers and now they’re moving to a cloud, people use to build their own warehouses and now their products are moving to the cloud. It’s a wonderful way to start a business that’s leading to great entrepreneurial activity because they just lower the bar; every time the bar lowers that means more people are going to try it. Every time once you will try it there’s going to be a total --- but more people will succeed, big bet what you see. In fact we impact by making about stuff better for folks and given them the advice they need along the way. And so it’s very, very positive development for the market and I do think that’s a surprise amount of auto opinion putting around on this, I think it’s a – that’s sort of will be great.

Great. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Gus Papageorgiou from Macquarie. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yes. Thanks for taking the questions. Just once your MD&A attribute to the increase in gross margin to subtract capital and drop by shipping, I’m just wondering how you especially on capital, how you see demand for services that capital and are there any gaining factors that you had last year that you've been able to remove going into 2018? And so your cash advances I think running around $40 million a month, I can’t remember exactly, but how you see that progressing through 2018?

Yes. Combine the two new areas of shipping and capital, grew over 300% year-over-year and in terms of capital some of the things that are on the roadmap there is in addition to doing cash advances potentially we’re looking at flexible loans expanding that to merchants outside of the U.S. as well are all good things there. In terms of shipping I mean, sometimes we get asked what inning do we think in. We are on some of the things. I’d say capital; we’re in a very early inning there. I would say on shipping we’re basically just completing batting practice. So we haven't really started the game and some of things that we announced in the second half of 2017 really help position us for shipping. But it's also an area where if you look at our merchant they're probably spending most of their time on fulfilment related activities. And so the extent that we can simplify that and reduce the cost of that not only can they pass that on to their customers to sell more, but they can free up their time to really focus on again ways to grow the business. So both of those had a strong impact in 2017, but they're still very early stage and so we see lots of great growth going forward.

I think you roll that capital into other geographies in 2018?

That is the plan, yes. Now each geography has their own regulatory requirements and so there is work to be done there, but certainly from a demand point of view similar to what we saw with our U.S. merchants, it's difficult for these particularly newer and smaller entities to be able to get working capital financing, so it's such an important piece of what we can offer.

Great. Thank you for answering questions. Tobi Lütke: And since you asked about the entire year, I think just for cash advances, we said this before, but we entered the year, this cash advances being like computer assisted but mostly manual process and this is now taking over the algorithm from machine learning almost completely. So that’s another thing that’s what’s gating initially and now is wide open.

Thank you.

Thank you, Gus. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Tom Forte from D A Davidson. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking my question. So, Shopify was one of the first platforms to allow merchants to accept Bitcoin. So given the movement we had in Bitcoin, I was wondering if you could comment on adoption rates, the number of merchants accepting Bitcoin and if they're seeing meaningful sales coming in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general? Thank you. Tobi Lütke: It’s true. So we integrated Bitcoin as sort of it makes sense partly because we have a strong belief that very bright future in the ideas behind Bitcoin. I think its well-documented at this point the particular implementation of Bitcoin has also some issues before it can really be use for transferring money. Right now it's a good store value, well, very volatile still value but that's what people intent to use for multiple speculations. Almost no one use Bitcoins around because depending on how the netbook is doing. Like I recently did a $30 donation somewhere and it cost be $29 for in fees, so not very good for moving money around. There’s a lot of effort like neglecting that netbook and always kind of things that they are doing, but it’s all these reasons not much is happening, so I think as it come to cyptocurrency and commerce, the best way to think about it is lots of innovation that will lead to the things that we’ll use in the future has now happened. There is a brainstorm about exactly how to implement and scale it. And we are going to be super prepared for welcoming everyone once they want to use this and once the buyers are ready to use it and ones the fees come down and the confirmation rates are quick and everyone has figured out how to deal with refunds and these kinds of things. There’s a lot of things credit card obviously do that, but its go van and cyptocurrencies and have to be re-implemented. So we’re not just observing this. We’re like really active participants in these conversations and so we’ll be ready. There’s plenty of people have enabled accepting Bitcoin, but its very sporadic for them to actually get any Bitcoin vantage, people do it for novelty rather than because it makes a lot of sense.

Great. Thanks Tobi.

Thanks Tom.

Our next question comes from Deepak Mathivanan from Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is actually Aki on for Deepak. Two questions if I may. The first question is sort of big picture. In terms of your GMV it almost approaching at $30 billion revenue run rate. Just want to see what you would call out as a primary drivers of that, you know, one or two things you would want to call out on that. And then secondly in the merchants solutions business your gross profit growth slightly decelerated, I mean, its strong about 100%, but just wondering is it just tough comp, so is there anything else you don’t want to call out on that front? Thank you.

Yes. So in terms of the GMV, I mean, a number of factors go into that. One is a lot more merchants on the platforms. So as you’d expect their selling activity increases that number. This success we’re having on Plus, again we’re bringing these larger brands over a number of them are doing in excess of 100 million a year in terms of GMV. And then just for the existing merchant base. So merchants for example had been on the platform as of or before December 2016. Those merchants every month of 2017 grew by 20% are more for every one of those months. And so, again the existing merchants are doing much better as well on the platform and we continue to do things to help this. So I expect that the number to continue. In terms of the merchant solutions, I mean on the payment side in terms of merchant penetration we’re at a very high number there. Capital and shipping as I talked about we’re in sort of early periods there, and so overtime we expect to see those start to have a more meaningful impact.

Great. Thank [Indiscernible]. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Brian Essex from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi. Good morning and thank you for taking the question. I was wondering if I could dig in subscription solutions revenue a little bit. It looks like MRR has been at a better pretty stable growth rate for the year, but subscription solutions revenue accelerated. So maybe implying that some of that acceleration may be due to non-recurring items or easier comps. And I guess if we parse that out could you --- maybe Russ, could you give us little bit clarity in terms of what’s driving that acceleration? Was it change in shop, plus pricing doing that or there are other items that are kind of pushing that subscription solutions growth rate higher than MRR growth?

Yes. So there are two reasons that we saw particularly in the fourth quarter those sort of subscription solutions growing faster than the MRR. One is the sale of apps and so that continues to be very robust. Then we’ll continue to be robust. The second one which had a meaningful impact in relative to other quarters in Q4 was the new variable pricing for Plus. So it’s about 3x higher in Q4 than in Q3. Again in terms of the overall number not a material amount, but certainly up a positive impact in that quarter.

Great. Thanks, Brian.

Our next question comes from Kevin Krishnaratne from Paradigm Capital. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi, there. Good morning. Just on the Plus investments for 2018, how do we think that both the growth there sales and marketing versus R&D spend? And then on Plus usage, I’m curious to know if you’re seeing any difference in the type of apps taken by Plus versus non-Plus merchants, and if there’s any opportunities to maybe acquire a buildout those offerings as part of the Plus offering?

Hey, there, its Harley, I’ll take that question. So in terms of expense was spend on Plus, as I mentioned earlier, I think that in the early days of Plus you really did focus on just giving amazing service whether its having dedicated account reps, making sure that our merchants have everything they need when it comes to Shopify. But on the product side I think that this is where you’ll start seeing a lot more products coming out around the Shopify Plus specifically for these larger enterprise like merchants, and that's me that is new to us. In terms of the apps you’re correct, I mean, some of the nuances and complexity of what these larger merchants need things like cross-border tax compliance and things of that nature it just not something that smaller merchants require and so we created a partner program specifically for apps that larger merchants need and that's still in its early days, but we’re seeing a lot of great companies come to the table to offer their services for our Plus merchants.

Thank you.

Thanks, Kevin.

Our next question comes from Todd Coupland from CIBC. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yes. Good morning everyone. I wanted to ask about international. What countries will be the focus in 2018 in terms of expansion? And now that you have a few quarters of strong international growth, would you expect those merchants to be a tailwind to GMV growth in 2018? Thanks.

So the focus in terms of country priority Germany, France, Japan, Singapore or kind of sort of Tier 1 and then we expect to grow from there. Now in some of these merchant will be earlier merchants and so potentially a little bit of an impact in GMV, but net-net good additions and with the data that we gather as part of that clearly will be able to use that to help these merchants as well.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Suthan Sukumar from Eight Capital. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Good morning, guys. I just have question on eBay challenge you guys launch recently. Can you speak to some of the recent traction that you’re having on the channel and what other types of channels that you may look ahead to integrate over the course of fiscal 2018?

Hey, its Harley, I’ll take that question. Yes. So we’re really happy with eBay channel, it’s a marketplace with a 170 million consumers that shop there. Again the strategy with channels is to make merchant can find their customer whoever they may exist. And certainly eBay is a place where lot of customers hangout. So natural progression was obviously eBay, excuse me, again one thing that I think it's Lawson times is we also have this channel SDK which means that some of the core channels we’re going to build ourselves things like eBay and Amazon because we think they’re really important, but the nice part about having SDK, it means that other marketplaces are more niche and really relevant to very -- to a smaller subset of merchants they can easily integrate into Shopify and then write to the Shopify back in our merchants can sell anywhere they want.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Richard Tse from National Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is actually Andrew for Richard. My question is actually on a take rate. You mentioned in your remarks some of the drivers to what you’re seeing that expand in the quarter. I’m hoping that you could provide some vision into the direction over the next few years just based on your expectations for new products and services scaling, and whether you expect Plus uptake to be a headwind or tailwind for that longer-term direction? Thank you.

Yes. So we did see good increase in the take rate in Q4. Q4 will always have a higher take rate just because of the nature of the volume in that period and the services that we provide. I think as we talked about part of our strategy as a company is to increase our share of wallet, and so we will continue to focus on things that do that. In terms of Plus more of the Plus merchants are actually using things like Shopify payments now. And so whether or not we will get some big merchants that have their own sort of payment gateway that corporately they need to use which could be a bit of a headwind there is to be determined. But overall we expect the take rate to improve over time.

Great. Thank you, Andrew. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Brian Peterson from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Good morning everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. So I wanted to hit on the customer cohort that you guys talk about or you referenced in the MD&A section. But it looks like the majority of the incremental revenue dollars this year came from the 2016 cohort and the 2017 cohort where the 2015 in prior were more or less stable, maybe up a little bit. What I won’t understand there is -- is there a certain point where your customers sort of just kind of grow in line with digital commerce? And when do we typically see that? And is there anything different about your recent customers that suggest that could be a longer growth tail or shorter, just curious on that dynamic? Thanks guys.

Yes. So both the 2015 and the pre-2015 cohort grew in 2017, the reason you see what you just talked about the much larger growth in sort of 2016 cohort is because that cohort 2017, that their first full year to be on the platform itself. So some of those merchants in 2016 actually joins sort of late in the year. And so you might be getting a little bit of distortion there, but overall again our monthly billing retention rate was over 100% and so we can see as we add larger and newer cohort that just becomes incremental for us.

Thanks, Russ.

And there are no further questions at this time. I’ll now turn the call back over to Katie Keita for closing remarks.

All right. Thanks Kelly. And I’ll turn the call over to Tobi for his final words. Tobi Lütke: Good. That’s a quick one. Nice work. So really, left no stone unturned, talked about fun things like Bitcoins and drop shipping and all these kind of good things. I mean, look, I think what we do here is, as always we are trying to predict where the future is going in commerce. We are doing a lot of work to so that if small merchants you have on the platform, if somehow their industry changes in some meaningful way or if new technologies happen and that they need to take advantage of that we have all of this ready at the push of a button, so that they don't have to correctly anticipate all the changes to technology landscape and so on. I think there are some – let me just point at one recent kind of example that didn’t come up, but it’s just a good example of this kind of thing which is that the recent investing in virtual reality and AR and -- this seems a little bit fancy for it, to what does commerce have to do with these kind of things? And the answer is kind of everything, we have uncovered really very interesting ways of taking where human processes of how [Indiscernible] from a shopkeeper to a buyer that happened in the current world and that people appreciate that’s how people want to shop and how to move them onto the internet and so on. That’s a little bit abstract, more concrete is something you can already see like that specifically [Indiscernible] it’s clearly how in the future a lot of such things like furniture is going to be sold. So very soon in the…

This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.