Rusty Rush
Analyst · Credit Suisse
It's not what I expected, Jamie going into - I could tell you back in September and August, it wasn't what I expected, August-September area. But as the quarter unfolded and we got through the end of really in the middle of November, it - December was a difficult month. It really was. I guess to add color, not that it helps, I've done a lot of checking around the country over the last month because I saw what was happening especially in December. And I don't think I was alone from that perspective. It was a little more, as I said, it was the parts and service. I mean, we had some timing issues on truck deliveries. I mean you saw how big Q3 was, right? Q3 was a big quarter, it was our biggest quarter of the year, I bet, biggest ever. And so - and then, to be honest with you, I'll talk about Q1 in a minute, but we had some timing of deliveries that came in a little quicker than we anticipated in Q3. So I mean we were under 3,000 units from a truck perspective. But it was - and so I knew we were going to be off and truck sale is not quite that much going in, but it was parts and service decline that got my attention really in December. And we always have some sense on decline. This was just exasperated a little more and especially in December. December was a very difficult month. I will say this, it's the trough. Okay. I'm confident in that, from that perspective, as we go forward. Sequentially, we're going to be up in parts and service. Now whether we're up at the same rate as we were in '19 Q1, you know, it's sort of - a lot of handled out right now. It's unfolding out in front of us, but it's - I feel better, I feel a lot better now than I did on December 31. At the same time, you know it's - my window out there is not - I can't look out that far and see as well as I would like to. At the same time, January was for sure a better month than December and we're working our way through February, and at the same time, I feel better than I did. That will be a trough, from a parts and service perspective, and I'm not going to - but your comment about, you know, should we look at that going forward, the whole quarter, I would tell you, I don't expect to do - I can't explain how much better. How's that? That would be the way I would view it right now, when I look forward and when you talk about - you asked about energy also. Energy for sure, while it doesn't have the same effect on the company it had four years ago, it has an effect, realizing, we're still in Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, New Mexico where there is a lot of energy business going on. So we were from the peak, say our peak quarter in ' 18 to a peak to a trough, which was Q4 of '19, we're down, we're going two-thirds, got it? We got to just pass 56% from the peak quarter in '18 to where we were, and Q4 was the trough. So I can't see it getting any worse than that. At the same time, we will have a few headwinds in Q1 and Q2 because it continues to drop throughout the year, I mentioned that on the other calls, right? It continued when I was on the Q3 call as it was down more than Q2. Q2 was down more than Q1. Now, I do believe it's bottomed. Okay? From the reports I'm getting that does mean it's great. But it's bottomed. So really, I don't make much more - one direction to go hopefully. I hope that's the case. And that's up with that area, but we do have some sequential headwinds Q1 and Q2 were better than Q4. So, that's one of the reasons why I'll just go and start - I'll just talk like I like to. But if you know me, that's one of the reasons, when I look at early in the year from a parts and service perspective, I'll get it after - probably flat to last year. And there is a possibility of a slight down - slightly down, just because of those headwinds as the other markets I talked about in my call a minute ago, were seeing stabilization and I believe they're going to come back and the seasonality that we get pickups in will happen. It's just as - any real growth that we have in parts and service will probably be towards the back of the year, the second half of the year. Now I'd like to be surprised in the second quarter, but I can't sit here and say, I believe, we can - I still have - I have confidence that we can maintain where we were last year with some pick up in the back half, because when you can go look at other folks reports, they might tell you one thing or another. But most people what was - you can't get and - people - the different research firms that will project that parts and service are calling for flat, okay, this year. And when you think about it, you think about the magnitude of the fleet, right? I mean we just freshened up this fleet. 2019 was the second biggest year in history, okay, and '18 was no slouch. So we freshened everything up and when you've got oversupply out there, folks may not spend on the fixes, but you add that - we've got [indiscernible] we could generate acceptances and what's going on in the world. It's just because - it's just an industrial - our industry goes through these corrections every now and then and that's what we will be correcting over the next - I don't think it's going to be lasting forever, but over a lot of this year. From a truck per sales perspective, the industry will be leveling out and taking, it's not doom and gloom, it's an industry thing, I believe, it's driven. And for us there's some exasperation because of the oil and gas sector. But at the same time we have gone and worked on our G&A. I mean I'm getting out ahead here. If I'll wait for people to ask questions, I'll just rabble up everything I got on my mind. But again on the truck side, I did say I think we can take some market share with a smaller market, we always have. This we've done it every time historically, so you know, I don't have the backlog. What I have is - you get more hand to mouth, but I feel pretty good about it so.