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The RMR Group Inc. (RMR)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Dec 12, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to The RMR Group fourth quarter and year-end 2017 conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Bonang, Senior Vice President. Please go ahead.

Timothy Bonang

Analyst

Thank you. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. With me on the call are President and CEO, Adam Portnoy, and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Jordan. In just a moment, they'll provide details about our business and our performance for the fourth quarter and year-end fiscal 2017. They will then take questions. I would like to note that the recording and retransmission of today's conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Also note that today's conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on RMR's beliefs and expectations as of today, December 12, 2017, and actual results may differ materially from those that we project. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to the forward-looking statements made in today's conference call. Additional information concerning factors that could cause any differences is contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC, which can be accessed from our website, rmrgroup.com, or the SEC's website. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward-looking statements. In addition, we may be discussing non-GAAP numbers during this call, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin. A reconciliation of net income determined in accordance with US Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP, to adjusted EBITDA and a calculation of adjusted EBITDA margin can be found in the news release we issued this morning. And now, I'd like turn the call over to Adam to begin our review. Adam?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thanks, Tim. And thank you to everyone for joining us this morning. For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2017, which ended on September 30, we reported net income per share attributable to RMR of $0.31 per share and ended the fiscal year with assets under management of approximately $28.5 billion, a $1.6 billion increase from the same time last year. It's also worth noting that we expect to end the calendar year at close to $30 billion in assets under management as a result of recent acquisitions by our client companies, most notably GOV's acquisition of First Potomac Realty Trust, or FPO, on October 2 for approximately $1.4 billion. I'm pleased to report that the integration of FPO into our real estate management services platform, as well as the onboarding of a number of talented employees has gone very well. We are realizing the synergies and operating leverage we expected heading into the acquisition, and believe this transaction will be accretive to RMR's operating margins in fiscal year 2018. From an operations perspective, at our managed equity REITs, we arranged over 1 million square feet of leases during the quarter at a weighted average lease term of approximately eight years. We also supervised approximately $18 million in capital improvement at our managed equity REITs during the quarter. Some highlights from the most recently reported quarterly earnings from our managed equity REITs includes the following. HPT reported a 4% year-over-year increase in normalized FFO per share and further strengthened its balance sheet through a $400 million offering of 3.95%, 10-year unsecured seniors notes. During the quarter, HPT also acquired 16 hotels for $231 million. SNH continued to generate stable operating results despite continued headwinds facing the senior living industry. SNH recently closed a put under agreement, five medical office buildings for…

Matthew Jordan

Analyst

Thanks, Adam. And good morning, everyone. As Adam highlighted earlier, we reported net income attributable to RMR of $5 million or $0.31 per share this quarter. Management services revenues were $44.3 million this quarter, which represents a $550,000 increase on a year-over-year basis, primarily due to business management fee growth at the managed equity REITs. Management services revenue decreased $400,000 on sequential quarter basis, primarily due to lower construction volume at GOV and the related reduction in construction management fees. As a reminder, we are only able to record GAAP revenues for incentive fees at December 31 of each year. If September 30 had been the end of the measurement period, we would've earned $63.6 million incentive fees as it relates to the measurement period that ends December 31, 2017 or $84.8 million on a full year basis. Through the end of November, three of our managed equity REITs have continued generating a total return that exceeds their respective benchmarks. The incentive fees due as of November 30 would be approximately $142 million on a full year basis. Turning to expenses for the quarter, total compensation and benefits expense was $27.2 million, comprised of $23.9 million in cash compensation and $3.3 million in non-cash share-based payments. Cash compensation of $23.9 million represents an increase of $1.1 million on a year-over-year basis and $150,000 on a sequential quarter basis. Both increases are primarily driven by personnel-related costs associated with headcount additions, bonus costs, and merit increases over the course of fiscal 2017. Overall, we continue to recover approximately 37% of our cash compensation from our client companies. Non-cash compensation of $3.3 million this quarter reflects the annual grants of restricted share awards by RMR in certain of our client companies. The restricted share awards vest in five tranches with the first…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mitch Germain with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Mitch Germain

Analyst

Good morning, guys. How are you?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Good morning.

Matthew Jordan

Analyst

Good morning. Just a quick question on – just in terms of kind of the strategy going forward, Adam, you've been able to create a lot of diversification of revenues without a significant investment by you guys, right? A lot of that was just kind of growing AUM through using the mechanisms that you already kind of have at place. So, just a question about capital allocation strategy and, obviously, the cash balance continues to grow, we've got some incentives, obviously, that Matt referenced. How should we think about when cash hits a certain point where you start to consider special dividends or other mechanisms of utilizing that cash?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Mitch. It's a great question. It's something I can tell you we spend a lot of time thinking about. First off, I'll make a couple of points. One, yes, we are tracking the incentive fees and where cash is, but we really don't know until the end of the year. So, a lot of what we've been thinking about is, obviously, speculative. We really can't do anything until we know where we are at the end of the year. That said, also important to reiterate for everybody that, of course, everyone knows I'm a very large shareholder of the company myself. I am highly aligned with shareholders and clearly would benefit from any sort of one-time dividend or change in dividend policy that we could consider. So, that all being said, I think, generally speaking, our thinking around growth and deploying or using cash hasn't really changed over the last several quarters. And you'll hear me say the same thing I've said in prior quarters, which is that we have a preference for using excess cash to invest in growth initiatives that will increase fee revenues for RMR. That all being said, if we're unable to invest in growth initiatives or run out of opportunistic ways to do that, yes, I think we would think about a dividend. We would think about the dividend. But I will tell you – I think it's important to point out, the way we're thinking more about the dividend is if we were to make any changes around the dividend, I think we're more focused on, would we change the rate of the dividend – the regular dividend rate rather than any sort of one-time dividend. I think that's the way we have thought about it, or are thinking about it now especially. But that all being said, I still want to reiterate, we are still very focused on trying to come up with ways, if we can, to accretively deploy that capital in growth initiatives that generate additional fee revenue. So, that's where we're at.

Mitch Germain

Analyst

About a year ago, when asked the question about the different avenues of growth, you mentioned mortgage REIT and that's clearly been a success. You mentioned growing your AUM in your investment platform. That clearly was done with RIF. You're growing AUM through the ILPT-FPO deal. What am I missing? What other areas of commercial real estate interest you? Is it really more maybe an area to focus going forward would be maybe traditional office fund? Is that something that – or do you think that was somewhat accomplished with FPO?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, Mitch. I think the one area that we've talked about in the past, you're correct, we talked about the mortgages, we talked about growing the securities management platform, and we've also talked about raising private capital. And you mentioned perhaps as a way to do that around office. I think the one area we have – yes, we have been able to do something in the mortgage space. We've been able to do something in the security space. And I even said on the last quarterly call, an area that we are spending a lot of time thinking about is on the private capital side. And I think we continue to spend a lot of time thinking about that. So, that's one area -- you asking what are you missing. That's the one area, I'd say, the light on the stool [ph] that we haven't really done anything around yet. So, I'd still say that's something we're still trying to figure out how to accomplish that.

Mitch Germain

Analyst

And wouldn't that be pure third-party capital or do you think there'll be some sort of minority investment by RMR?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

I think if we were to do something, we'd love to have – we try to run, as you've seen, pretty asset light, and I think our preference would be to have third-party capital. But that being said, I think to get that business especially sort of off the ground, I think any third-party capital that came would likely prefer that RMR were to invest some capital in it. So, I think if we were to launch a strategy, I wouldn't be surprised to see some RMR capital dedicated towards it.

Mitch Germain

Analyst

Great lesson for me. Matt, did I hear you right the full – you guys get the fee on the full $62 million, not just the $50 million that is kind of owned by other investors? Is that the way to think about it?

Matthew Jordan

Analyst

Correct. The whole $62 million.

Mitch Germain

Analyst

Great. All right. Congrats, everyone, on a good year.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Bryan Maher with the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Wendy Ma

Analyst · the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Actually, this is actually Wendy Ma for Bryan's line. Good morning, guys.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

Wendy Ma

Analyst · the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

So, I just have a quick question about the incentive fee you talked about. So, you have talked about the incentive fee on a full year basis if September 30 had been the end of the measurement period. So, could you please provide little more details on that, like the breakdown amount for managed REITs?

Matthew Jordan

Analyst · the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Yeah. I guess, what I would probably say is even more relevant is where we are at the end of November, which is – I just talked about in our prepared remarks – was $142 million. All of our REITs would be paying a fee as of the end of November except GOV. SIR is outperforming its benchmark by just under 10%. SNH is underperforming its benchmark by just under 7%. HPT is outperforming its benchmark by 12.5%. So, that gets you – those three fees, SIR would pay about $25 million if November were the end of the period. And I can't stress enough, December could evolve in a way that changes these numbers. SNH would pay almost $43 million and HPT would be at $73 million, which is the cap. Was that helpful?

Wendy Ma

Analyst · the B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Oh, yeah. That's helpful. Yeah, that's enough for me. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Kotowski with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Most of my questions were asked. Just not sure to what extent you can say, but any guidance you can give on how quickly you expect the proceeds from Tremont to be fully deployed?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

When we were conducting the IPO for Tremont, we talked about having the money out roughly around six months from the close of the IPO. So, that – call it six months, a March timeframe from the IPO because we closed the IPO in September. I think we are still focused on that. There's no change we can do to be focused on that timeline.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Okay, good. And then, the reimbursable payroll related revenues, the $11.3 million, that was a bit more than we were looking for. And I'm just curious, is that – is there a seasonal component to that?

Matthew Jordan

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

No. You've got to remember, as I talked about in my prepared remarks, reimbursable revenue would also include cash and stock-based compensation. So, given the stock awards, restricted share awards we issue every fourth quarter and this quarter has $3 million of it, which includes RMR shares. 2.4 of that is recovered. So, you're going to see a significant pop every Q4 based on the way the initial tranche vests. So, if you look historically, every fourth quarter has a pretty significant impact on the reimbursable and the comp line. And then, next quarter, we should go back on a stock-based comp reimbursable line. We should get back to about 1.3 million, 1.5 million on a normalized basis. So, it's just the effects of the stock awards driving that up.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Okay. All right. Yeah, looks like it was a seasonal pattern. Okay, thank you. That's it for me.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Adam Portnoy for any closing remarks.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thank you for joining us this morning. Operator, that concludes our call.