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Rocky Brands, Inc. (RCKY)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 25, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Rocky Brands Second Quarter Fiscal 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Brendon Frey of ICR.

Brendon Frey

Analyst

Thanks everyone for joining us. Before we begin, please note that today’s session including the Q&A period may contain forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on information and assumptions available at this time and are subject to changes, risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially. We assume no obligation to update such statements. For a complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties, please refer to today’s press release, and our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our 10-K for the year-ended December 31, 2016. I’ll now turn the conference over to Jason Brooks, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Rocky Brands.

Jason Brooks

Analyst

Thank you, Brendon. I’m excited to be addressing this audience for the first time. With me today is Tom Robertson our Chief Financial Officer. I’ve been with Rocky Brands for 20 years. This company and its people are incredibly important to me, so I was extremely honored to have recently been appointed Chief Executive Officer. I know, I am new to the analysts and investors listening today, so I look forward to getting to know you in the coming months. Before we get into a review of our second quarter results, I would like to take this moment to talk about my experience at Rocky Brands, review my first sixty plus day as a CEO, and outline why I am bullish about the outlook for the company. I started with Rocky as an independent sales rep in 1997, and over the past two decades, I’ve held various VP as sales roles, before transitioning into a more senior position including Senior VP U.S. Wholesale, President U.S. Wholesale sales, and most recently President core-brands. I had the good fortune to work in several different areas of the businesses during my career, which I believe will benefit the organization as we continue to execute the growth and profit improvement strategies currently in place. Since assuming the role of CEO in mid-May, I spent the majority of my time meeting with senior management team to review the primary growth objectives for each of the three major segments; wholesale, retail, and military. Based on these conversations, combined with my experience and knowledge for the market places we operate in, here are the biggest opportunities I see for our business. Starting with our largest segment, wholesale, we have the good fortune to own some of the most authentic brands in work, western, and outdoor categories. Through…

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Thanks, Jason. Net sales for the second quarter were $58.5 million compared to $62.6 million in the corresponding period a year ago, a decrease of 6.6%. By segment, wholesale sales for the second quarter decreased 10.5% to $37.1 million compared to $41.5 million last year. Retail sales for the second quarter increased 5.8% to a $11 million compared to a $10.4 million a year ago, and military sales were $10.3 million versus $10.7 million for the same period in 2016. Gross profit in the second quarter increased 11.7% to $18.2 million, or 31.1% of sales, compared to $16.2 million, or 26% of sales for the same period last year. The 510 basis point increase was driven primarily by a significant improvement in both the wholesale and military segment margins. Gross margins by segment were as follows: wholesale 31%, up 330 basis points versus last year, retail 42.6%, down 190 basis points versus last year and military 19.2% compared with 1.4% a year ago. The increase in wholesale gross margins were driven by the combination of better full price selling, less discounting and the discontinuation of a lower margin private label program. With respect to our military segment obviously we are up against an easy comparison from a year ago. That said, this quarter’s military segment gross margins were well above historic highs due to a couple of temporary factors. We manufactured a small high margin order for the U.S. military during the second and also gained increased efficiencies in our Puerto Rican facility. Thanks to higher volumes of our commercial military production. For the year, we still expect military segment gross margins to be in a mid-teen range. Selling, general and administrative expenses decrease 15.4% to 15.9 million or 27.2 percent of sales for the first quarter of 2016 compared…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jonathan Komp with Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead with your question.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Hi Jason, and thanks for the high-level comments about the broader strategies. I’m wondering if you could just spend a few more minutes maybe talking about, as you’d see the lay of the land today, maybe drill down a little bit more into some of the strategic directions you see going forward and if you have any initial milestones or timelines on any changes if any that you plan on implementing?

Jason Brooks

Analyst

Hi, Jon, it’s nice to talk to you. Let’s see, so I don’t have any strategic milestones as of today. Tom mentioned one in particular and that was the Creative Rec L.A. office. We felt like we needed to do something there, so that one was pretty critical. We are in the process of looking at this strategic direction for the company over the next year or two and five, and we’ll be putting that together over the next couple of months. In regards to the marketplace, retail is still an interesting position right now. I think most retailers we’re finding are in a pretty good inventory position, but they’re very conservative in what they’re buying and they’re buying a lot closer to what their needs are at once. So, for instance, the Georgia Boot brand, we saw a pretty decent -- I don’t know if it’s decent. We saw an increase in Georgia, and the Work market seems to be going well. Western is kind of up and down, it really depends on if it’s men’s or women’s or if it’s more work western. So, we’re seeing some interesting things there, and then obviously Amazon is really affecting that market in a big way also.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay. I wanted to follow-up there. I had a couple of questions on the wholesale growth. In the quarter, I know you’ve called out or Tom might have called out the discontinuation of the private label sales being the headwind. And I’m wondering first if you just quantify how much that was in the prior year, just trying to normalize and get a better sense to the growth rate excluding that when you look at this year?

Jason Brooks

Analyst

So, Tom can give the specific numbers there.

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Yes. Hey, Jon. When we look at – when we’re looking at 6/30/2016 compared to quarter-to-quarter. If we were to back out the private label business, we would have been really flat. The actual private went up couple of hundred thousand at a wholesale side. So, for the quarter it was 2.4 million for the private label.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. Okay, great. When you drill down in the wholesale performance and look across Work in Western, I’m just trying to get a better sense, and maybe this is over the last few quarters, but I’m just trying to get a better sense of the sequential trends you’re seeing on that underlying basis. So, if you think the category, they are improving or not, they are kind of what you’re seeing on that basis?

Jason Brooks

Analyst

So, I would tell you they are improving, but very, very small. We’re seeing better at-once business, our bookings, we’ve never been a big booking company. We’ve always done a lot of at-once business, our out-door business has pretty good bookings, but we’re seeing small increases there in regards to the work in the Western.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

And then, how does that translate to the way you’re thinking about the back half of the year and kind of sticking with wholesale. Just given the declines, you’ve seen in the first two quarters and I know at some point you’ll be cycling the private label when you discontinue that. So how should we think about modeling the wholesale growth the next couple of quarters?

Jason Brooks

Analyst

So, I think from the private label standpoint, I think we saw that through September 2016.

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Yes. We pretty much wrap that up at the end of our third quarter.

Jason Brooks

Analyst

And Q3, so that will still anniversary through Q3 and then that falls off in Q4. I think we’re being very cautious in Q3 and Q4. We have some good things going. We had some good products that have hit the shelves just in the last couple of weeks, some new product for fall of 2017. We’ll see how those start checking, but I think we’re being very cautious about what kind of increases we’ll see there.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay. And is the private label drag in Q3 in terms of magnitude, is that similar to what you saw in Q2?

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Yes. It’s comparable.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay, great. And then maybe shifting gears slightly just wanted to follow-up kind of stunning to see that G&A down 15% year-over-year, and I know you’ve made some structural changes to the cost of the business. I just want to follow-up because I know you also talked about investing in the brands in terms of marketing and some of the initiatives, and I want to hear how you’re thinking going forward about the G&A spend and if there’s going to be some reinvestment at some point given the discussion about some of the marketing and reinvestment?

Jason Brooks

Analyst

So, Tom, you want to get to the first part.

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Yes. So from an SG&A perspective, big reduction was mostly related to the wages and benefits obviously that we discussed related to the Q3 2016 reorganization. When you look at our SG&A spend, our advertiser or marketing spend is down this quarter, but I don’t think it’s quite as drastic as you might be thinking. So I think it’s very important to note that we are still continuing to invest in our brands and the marketing and the advertising side of it because we don’t want to loose sight of maintaining the strength of our brands.

Jason Brooks

Analyst

Yes and just to kind of reiterate that, we haven’t really changed anything in regards to our spend, in regards to the marketing, whether it’s digital marketing or traditional marketing, and we really have no intentions of doing that. Our focus is on those brands and building those brands that we have today, and we’ll spend the marketing dollars where we need to but we are going to do it in a way that we are not just kind of wasting [ph] money away. And so we are going to make sure that our brands are visible in the market place. If I stated I’m very comfortable that Rocky, Georgia and Durango have great brands in those markets, Creative Rec has a, a really strong name as well and it may have fallen off a little bit, but we need to invest there to get it back and we’re going to focus on those and support them in a way we can to make it grow.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay, and maybe last one from me then just looking at the G&A going forward, when I look back in recent history the dollars spent in the third and fourth quarter, it looks pretty similar dollar wise if I average spend grow it up to the Q2 spend then this one [indiscernible] the fake way to think about the trajectory this year and now they nearly spent about, to about 16 million of G&A in Q2 which seems well about what I have to, how are you thinking about the third and fourth quarter?

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Yes, so I think when we look at third and fourth quarter this year, I think we’ll have looking in from a dollar standpoint we’ll have some increases as it goes third and fourth quarter for us from a sales standpoint is so much stronger. So there’s obviously some variable cost [indiscernible] I’m sure, but as percentage of sales I think we’re at a good, not a good rate there.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay. Got it, thank you I will leave it there for now.

Jason Brooks

Analyst

Thanks, John.

Tom Robertson

Analyst

Thanks John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Okay, thank you. I would now like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

Jason Brooks

Analyst

So I just wanted to say, thanks for joining us for our Q2 results and we look forward to being back here in three months for Q3 and hopefully there as strong as the Q2. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.