Thierry Bernard
Analyst · BNP Paribas
So different questions. I will start with QIAstat and then move to Q3 and versus Q4. QIAstat, I wouldn't say Odysseas, that we are more exposed to respiratory panels than our competitors. Respiratory panels in syndromic testing account for roughly 65% of the total volume of testing. So it is clear that everybody is sensitive to a stronger flu season or a weaker flu season. Q2 is never -- if you look at our trends in testing for QIAstat over the last years, a very strong quarter for respiratory. Why? Because you are coming out of winter, but in the Northern Hemisphere. And at the same time, you are not completely in winter in many other parts of the world. So this explains the weaker numbers on respiratory. It is true that for the last 12 months, us, but also our competitors are seeing weaker flu season. At the same time, and this is the objective of our strategic vision of developing the menu of QIAstat, we are extremely pleased by the very good growth of GI. The relevance also, you have seen the cyclospora example that I gave today. We have meningitis developing very well, especially in Northern Europe, but also starting in the U.S. And we will have for the second half of the year, the BCID panel because as we said today, blood infections are key issues for customers. We now have that blood culture panel CE marked. We expect to have it FDA approved during the fourth quarter of this year. This will help the growth. A second good factor that will help the growth in end of Q3 and Q4 is that there will be a winter again in the Northern Hemisphere. The problem is not that much to know whether it's going to be a strong flu or weak flu. There will be flu. And here, we will be relevant. And here, you will see an acceleration of our respiratory testing. In the U.S., which remains the main market for syndromic testing, as you know, we have taken significant decisions from an organization standpoint, new sales, salespeople on the field, more specialized, new leadership. This is starting to pay off. And indeed, to your point, where we have the largest volumes of customers, we start to see a good uptake of our QIAstat Rise instrument in North America. So that's the context for QIAstat. And this is why we are confident in a double-digit growth for the second half of the year for QIAstat. Now coming back to your point on Q3 versus Q4. I mean in Q3, we will continue. We have no reason to consider that, for example, Sample tech will slow down. We believe that Sample Tech will continue to perform well because, again, in Q3, we will be more uptake -- we will see more uptake of our new launches, and we see the continuous development of parse. Digital PCR will continue to perform well. Overall between Q3 and Q4, you will see a continuing good development of capital sales and consumables, and this will be also strengthened by the launch of our new set of panels around gene expression. At the same time, as we disclosed today, we know that Q3 will be impacted by a very strong comp on QuantiFERON, especially on North America from Q3 of 2025. This is how we see the development of Q3 versus Q4. Obviously, if we can beat our target for Q3, we will do it. But it's, I think, a very mature and realistic analysis to set that guidance for Q3 and also that acceleration for Q4.