Roger S. Penske
Management
Well, I think number one, I think focus by our team is key. The fact that our Premium/Luxury, obviously, is a key part of our business, and when you look at Premium/Luxury, we actually get an 8% margin, and when it blends through, we're down, really, at 7.5%. So I think it's mix. I think it's leasing, which gives us an opportunity to get a little more margin, where we do a leased product. And the good news is these are -- with the pull-aheads, there's some incentive to the customer base. So I feel that's probably driving our New Car margin. And, certainly, we always say feel pressure in some of the areas in the -- internationally, where they give us higher targets, but I would say overall, the guys have managed that quite well. On the Used Car side, we've really had good luck. We've been up across the luxury, the volume foreign, and the domestic and giving us a nice increase, 10 basis points. So margin and CSI are the 2 things, I guess, they're my first words out of my mouth everyday when I'm talking to the team. And I think they've responded well, but you've got to continually manage it. I went back, I think I mentioned in my recent remarks that if we go back to the third quarter of 2008, you really -- there's really no -- very little difference: $2,802 per unit, and it's $2,791. In fact third, quarter of '09, if you go back, it's actually $2,721. So we've held that margin, had a little bit of support and help when Toyota and Honda had short supply. I think, we had a holiday there with all of us getting the benefit of those grosses. They've come down more normally. And on the Used side, we're within $100 of where we were back in the third quarter of '08. And today, we're selling more lower-priced used cars. So obviously, holding this margin we think has been a good job by our people. So overall, I think it's focus. Number two, I think the mix of our business is key. And the other thing that's turning out to be a benefit to us is -- now, is we're starting to get the rental cars coming off of rent out of our 2 major locations, Tennessee and Indiana. That's providing us with some good used cars, which had been inspected properly for resale, so that gives us a chance. We get the benefit of the captive finance companies' rates -- current rates, and in many cases, the extended warranty. So, overall, it's -- I think those are the key things that are driving it.