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Q1 2011 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 21, 2011

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to The New York Times First Quarter 2011 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] For opening remarks and introductions, I'd like to turn the call over to Ms. Paula Schwartz, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Paula Schwartz

Analyst

Thank you, Keisha, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our First Quarter 2011 Earnings Conference Call. We have several members of our senior management team here to discuss the results with you, including Janet Robinson, President and CEO; Jim Follo, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Scott Heekin-Canedy, President and General Manager of The Times; and Martin Nisenholtz, Senior Vice President of Digital Operations. All of the comparisons on this conference call will be for the first quarter of 2011 to the first quarter of 2010 unless otherwise stated. Our discussion will include forward-looking statements, and our actual results may differ from those predicted. Some of the factors that may cause them to differ are included in our 2010 10-K. Our presentation will also include non-GAAP financial measures, and we have provided reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures in our earnings press release, which is available on our corporate website at www.nytco.com. Now I will turn the call over to Janet.

Janet Robinson

Analyst

Thank you, Paula, and good morning, everyone. Our operating performance reflects the continuing transformation of our company, which intercepted with an important milestone in the first quarter. While the challenges for our company and for the larger economy are not yet behind us, the recent launch of subscription packages on NYTimes.com and across other digital platforms bring our plan for a new revenue stream to life. While the advertising marketplace remains challenging, we are confident that the path we have been pursuing to transform our company is the right one. Our properties are well-positioned to continue to capitalize on the digitization of our content, and this provides us with another reason for optimism about the future of our company. In the first quarter, we continued our focus on core initiatives, including maintaining an unwavering commitment to our brand promise of high-quality journalism across properties, highlighted recently by our four Pulitzer Prizes, two for The New York Times, one for The Boston Globe, and one for our regional newspaper, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, the first time in more than a decade that all three of our news units have won Pulitzers in the same year. Executing on the further monetization of our digital offerings with the introduction of NYTimes.com subscription packages at the end of March, a historic development for our company. Maintaining discipline on expense controls, even as we have taken out nearly 30% of our cost base over the past four years, and managing our asset portfolio to maintain its alignment, with our core operations and strategic initiatives, leading to our opportunistic divestiture of some small portions of our investment portfolio in the first quarter. The advertising marketplace faced increased pressure in the first quarter, reflecting the uncertain economic environment, recent global events and secular forces. The volatility we saw…

James Follo

Analyst

Thanks, Janet. Our emphasis on expense control remains a strategic underpinning of the business, and we will continue to pursue opportunities to aggressively reduce costs. As Janet mentioned, we have taken nearly 30%, or $850 million out of our cost base over the past four years, all while maintaining the high quality of our award-winning journalism. This quarter, we are cycling against an 18 [ph] decline in our operating costs in the first quarter of 2010. Operating costs were flat in the quarter despite higher promotion and newsprint expense, which were offset by decreases in various other expenses. While further expense control efforts have become more challenging, we remain focused on managing our expenses to identify further efficiencies in our operations and to respond to the secular changes in our industry. Getting to the special items, our first quarter earnings were favorably affected by $0.02 per share from the sale of a portion of the company's interest in the job listing aggregator, indeed.com. EPS in the first quarter of 2010 had been favorably affected by $0.04, or gain from the sale of an asset at one of our paper mills, in which the company has an investment, and unfavorably affected by a $0.07 tax charge for reduction in future tax benefits for retiree health benefits, resulting from the federal health care reform legislation that was enacted in March 2010. Severance costs increased by $500,000, but were minimal in both the current and the prior years at less than $1 million in each quarter. Depreciation and amortization was $29 million in the quarter, compared to $30 million in last year's quarter. In 2011, we expect depreciation and amortization to be between $118 million to $123 million. Newsprint expenses increased by 13% in the quarter, with a 16% increase in higher pricing,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Alexia Quadrani with JPMorgan. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: Thank you. The first question is just on the 100,000 subs [subscribers] that you highlighted in the release. Am I right in assuming since they're paid subs, they do not include any benefit from the Lincoln promotion or overlap with print subscribers?

Janet Robinson

Analyst

That's correct, Alexia. That is above and beyond the more than 100,000 that we've signaled in the press release. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: And then those revenues are obviously included in circulation revenues, is that fair?

James Follo

Analyst

Well, they will be going forward. I mean this is a second quarter issue.

Janet Robinson

Analyst

Yes. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: Okay. And on about.com, you mentioned the ramp up in investment spending there. Could you, I guess, quantify that, or give us a bit more color? How should we, maybe, be thinking about profitably of About going forward?

James Follo

Analyst

I think the investments at About are fairly modest, and we have a great deal of flexibility in the cost structure there. So even as we make some investments, I think we have some room to continue to produce very, very good operating margins. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: Okay. And then just lastly, just trying to get a sense of your commentary on print advertising in the second quarter. You said April was looking more like the trends in Q1. The comps do look a fair bit tougher in Q2 but even with that, should we assume sort of the that minus 7 decline area?

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Alexia, this is Scott. I think the way to look at the second quarter is to go back and understand what happened in the first quarter, and this is -- Janet noted this in her remarks. We saw an increase in total combined advertising, print and digital, in February after a slight decline in January, and then a significant decline in March, which we attribute to a change in the business climate that seemed to be tied to turmoil in the Middle East, the spike in oil prices, and the concerns about the implications of the crisis in Japan. We've seen -- the climate seems to be moderating with respect to those factors in April, and some help [ph] that they'll continue to moderate, influencing what we might expect for revenue in the second quarter. But I think we're prepared to make that statement, only with regard to what we've seen so far in April. And I think what we saw in March is a lesson and a good example of what happens in this advertising marketplace, that the things that are happening in the larger economy and global marketplace can quickly have impact on our results on advertising spending, contributing to the volatility in the marketplace, and the lack of visibility. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: Okay. Thank you. Just on that same topic, the auto classified number, which obviously was a highlight in the first quarter, did you see some weakness in that in March as well, along with the rest of the business? Or did that sort of stay strong?

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Well, at The Times for the automotive category as a whole, which includes our national brand advertising, we started to see some signs of that in March, and anecdotally we heard from auto manufacturers that they're viewing this environment with escalated gasoline prices and high prices in oil. They're viewing this marketplace now with a caution that wasn't there earlier in the year. Alexia Quadrani - JP Morgan Chase & Co: Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you,.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Craig Huber with Access 342.

Craig Huber -

Analyst

I got a couple of housekeeping questions. First, this pension contribution of $54 million, do you anticipate having to make another contribution, or you make another contribution later this year?

James Follo

Analyst

Craig, the $54 million included certain amounts -- lesser, the lesser portion that was certain amount that are required to be paid into certain union pension plan. The bulk of it was a discretionary contribution, we were just really being opportunistic. We will likely leave our options open. We've essentially made all our required commitments to the plans as of today all the way through the end of 2012. So I think we will reserve the right to be opportunistic as we do that. But, again, as far as I said, we're not required to make anything for the next -- balance of the next years.

Craig Huber -

Analyst

And then my other question, on this JV line, you lost, I think it's five point -- you lost money in that line, yes, about $5.7 million. How much of that, Jim, was from this amortization that you guys had a book related to this Liverpool Football Club acquisition, doing what Sports Ventures did? Could you ballpark that for us on quarterly basis?

James Follo

Analyst

Let me just say that's -- I mean last year, the joint venture line had a fairly large gain, so if you would exclude that gain, which is about $12.7 million, we lost about $3.6 million in the quarter. So I'd rather not be precise in this. This is a private company, really high-profile private company. We'd rather not get involved with some of that. But I'd say the performance of our -- we do expect the performance of our Forest Products Group to improve throughout the year. And a fair amount of that additional loss would have come from that issue. But I don't want to be more precise than I’ve just given you.

Craig Huber -

Analyst

Okay. Then if we jump over to about.com, if we could, do you think the entire 10% decline in about.com's revenues in this quarter was all tied to pay it's click advertising with Google? The changes there, like, it's annualized in the middle of this year?

James Follo

Analyst

No. Obviously, the CPC performance at About is affected by a number of factors, including ones we have been talking about now for a couple of quarters. We referenced it -- I think Janet referenced the design change to AdSense that was mandated last year. But in the quarter, we also saw some weakness on the display side. We had a very, very significant comps to overcome in the quarter. I think we were up 30% in that range last year. And as others have said, the climate, the advertising climate for display was mixed in the quarter, as some of the macroeconomic events affected the selling environment. So the combination of that, as well as the CPC impacts affected the 10% decline.

Craig Huber -

Analyst

And then also, what happened in your Regional Papers? They're down 9%, 10% in the ad revenues in the quarter. So I'm sure a little of that was Easter effect, but anything else here?

Janet Robinson

Analyst

It's predominantly retail that has shown softness on the regional side. There was some telecom softness as well, Craig. On the flip side, as far as the positive categories, though, digital is coming on quite strong in regard to the regionals.

Craig Huber -

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from John Janedis with UBS.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

Thank you. Janet, over the past couple of quarters, you've really called out the third month, meaning, I guess first, December and then March, as being particularly weak. If you think it's possible that maybe some of your larger national advertisers, more retailers are concerned about their expenses, so they're maybe pulling back? I think you referenced Japan for March, but any other possibilities, given what you saw in December as well?

Janet Robinson

Analyst

Well, it's hard to say universally, what all national advertisers do in regard to the quarterly spend, but I'm certain that most look at their spend during the course of the quarter, and ask whether or not they should spend that particular month or save their dollars for future quarters. And I think that it's not only dependent on the macroeconomic trends as we've noted, but also in regard just to their own advertising flight packages. I think anecdotally, as we look at some of the national advertisers -- I'm going to have Scott jump in here too in a moment -- anecdotally, as we look at the conversations that we're having with many of the national advertisers, it's clear that the second half of the year is a very strong retail time, and many of the advertisers, both national-based like our luxury goods and our retail side, really have to gear up for that period of the year. So that those retail trends, and that branding trends on some of the national side, really dollars can be saved for that flight of spending as opposed to earlier in the year.

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Let me just add to Janet's comment about the end of quarter part of your question. I don't have any specific information from March or December, but I did have conversations last year at the end of Q2, where I spoke with advertisers who said that the Greek debt crisis created uncertainty about their companies' performance, and they got requests to pull back on their spending. And that just adds to the point that I've already made, that all businesses I think, are very sensitive to possible shocks to the economy, and they react quickly, and I do think we experience the effects of that. With regard to Janet's point about Q1 and possible implications for the rest of the year, I'll reiterate that visibility isn't good, but we do have some anecdote here and there that gives us a sense of the flavor of what might be in the pipeline. Luxury advertisers, as a kind of a broad generalization, captures three or four of our categories, international fashion, American fashion, fashion jewelry, cosmetics, had collectively, in aggregate, a good Q1. And in conversations with them, we understand that they think that the same dynamics will be in place for them at the rest of the year. And along with some department stores have indicated that the second half, that we might expect to see some increases in their spending. So I think that's kind of the next point that Janet was referring to.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

Thanks. And Scott, is the luxury category, is it like around 12% of your advertising at this point for the New York Times? Is that a good ballpark?

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Yes. That's a pretty good number.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And Jim, to clarify, is your operating assumption that newsprint producers will announce the further price increase, and that they stick maybe this year? Because it feels like other folks out in the marketplace don't believe that and I just want to make sure I reconcile what you're talking about in terms of the view.

James Follo

Analyst

I think they're, on the market view, I think it's still that we could see some further price increases in the second half of year, although that keeps on getting pushed out, I admit. I mean I think the view is that it will be early this year, and that has not happened. There has been some capacity that's been taken out recently which will go towards tightening the markets, so I think a cautious view would be that there could be some. But I do agree that it's much less certain than it was earlier in the year.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

And then just maybe one last quick one. Just back to the paid digital subs, I'm not sure if you have the data, but were the majority that 100,000, were they people that hit the pay wall and then paid? Or was it just folks who more or less just signed up when they saw the promotion? Or maybe can you tell us, to what extent that the actual paying subs are starting at a $20 rate versus maybe the $0.99 user?

Janet Robinson

Analyst

We're not going into the specifics of the 100,000. What we have said, we'll reiterate, that it's more than 100,000. We're very pleased, it's above expectations. It's definitely contributing. We see an uptick in the increase to home delivery. What we will say is that very early on in the conversion, and it is extremely early, we are encouraged by the results that we're seeing from promotional offers that were out there, converting to full payment. We're not going to break out the 100,000, because it's so early in the process. But as we noted, John, as this initiative evolves, we're going to continue to give information to outline the progress that we're making.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Doug Arthur with Evercore Partners.

Douglas Arthur - Evercore Partners Inc.

Analyst · Evercore Partners.

Yes. Jim, did the timing of the pay wall launch, did it impact costs and how much, particularly in the SG&A line in the quarter? I mean you made reference to the $13 million incremental promotion for the rest of the year, I guess. I'm just particularly curious on SG&A.

James Follo

Analyst · Evercore Partners.

It should not be a factor in the first quarter. It would be relatively minor. That $13 million would be on a run rate basis meaningfully above the first quarter expense.

Douglas Arthur - Evercore Partners Inc.

Analyst · Evercore Partners.

Okay. Because I mean SG&A was relatively flattish year-over-year, but it did uptick quite a bit as a percent of revenues. So is the implication that you've kind of squeezed all the costs out of the SG&A that you're likely to do this cycle?

James Follo

Analyst · Evercore Partners.

Well, look, I did suggest that we did have a timing issue in the first quarter related to print circulation marketing. That will reverse itself in the second -- kind of, remaining three quarters of the year. Look, we acknowledge that having taken out such a big block, it's getting harder. But, look, despite the fact that we had some promo timing issues, we had newsprint price increases, we have pension working against us, we're still able to manage that flat. As you get deeper into the year, some of that stuff goes away. We think the newsprint price impact would mitigate itself. The timing of the print circulation will reverse itself. Now we will then start spending against our digital initiatives, so that will be a go against us but I do think generally, the second half of the year comps should be better than the first half.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from William Bird with Lazard Capital.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about just expected growth dynamics at About, given the Google changes, just wondering if the negative 10 is kind of a reasonable growth run rate?

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Yes. Well, it's really hard to give guidance on growth dynamics. So we'll just say that -- we've said for two quarters, and I suggested it in answer to another question, that we have some headwinds but we're not standing still. We're certainly improving instrumentation inside the business to make more analytically-driven choices with respect to content development. We're continuing to improve quality, which we have been investing in since we bought the business. We're creating, as Janet said, more new guide sites in 2011 than we've created in any other year. We're creating a robust Spanish-language site, which she also referenced and we're rapidly ramping our video efforts. So we've pretty much made investments in the business since we acquired it, having built the sales staff there and bought businesses like ConsumerSearch, improve the content quality. But all I'm going to say is, as I've said before, that we do face headwinds, the design change through June, and we have been somewhat negatively impacted by the algorithm changes that were put in place earlier in the year.

James Follo

Analyst

Well, one thing I would add to that though, is the first half of this year, the comps -- and so I think this whole display in the second quarter of last year, we grew 39%, we were about flat in the fourth quarter of last year on the display side. CPC in the first quarter last year grew 31%, it was actually down six in the quarter. So the comp story gets a lot different as we get deeper into the year. Now that being said, some of the algorithm issues in the first quarter, you don't comp against for a while. So there's a lot of moving pieces here, but the comps do get way easier in second half of the year.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Jim, could you also talk about the tax rate? What was the size of the adjustment, and what should we think about as the tax rate for the balance of the year?

James Follo

Analyst

Look, the tax rate, we regularly say, we haven’t moved off this number. On every incremental dollar we bring is about 42%. So we look at our kind of long-term tax rate is 42%. We have historically had some reserve releases that come out of our balance sheet, that have really suppressed that rate. We haven't intended to forecast those releases in our rate, but we generally look at kind of pro forma rate of 42% as the right rate to use for our business.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

And Jim, you spoke to just the challenge of finding more avenues for expense reduction. Are there any other further areas where you think you might have opportunities?

James Follo

Analyst

Yes. But it's likely to be over a broad list of areas where I don't think I would precisely say there's one area that leads the most. I think it's just a constant refining efficiency process here. Again, the core spending absent a couple of the call-outs, pension, timing on marketing spend, and newsprint, when you carve that out, I mean it does show a fairly rigorous approach to managing those costs, and so we'll continue to do that. Pension longer-term, I think we're at kind of the high watermark for pension expense this year. Pension expense relative to last will spike, but then it should recede once we get out beyond that. But that's not really a manage issue, that's more of a kind of an accounting, reporting issue. But again, it is likely to be long list of categories that contribute to fairly aggressive managing.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

And Jim, what was the size of the print circulation marketing in the quarter that won't be repeated?

James Follo

Analyst

About $3 million or $4 million. But again, when we get into the second quarter, we'll be spending against the launch of the paid model. So while that issue will reverse itself in the remaining three quarters, not fully in the second quarter but throughout the remainder of the year. On the print side, we will then introduce, and as we said in our comments, is that $13 million of incremental spending. So some of that will get introduced into our P&L. I'm not suggesting, however, that our costs are going to go up by $13 million, there will be some offsets there as well but -- so that's the number.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. And just one final. Just to clarify. When you talked about newsprint and you talked about kind of some outlook for newsprint, does that outlook imply any assumption on the price increase? Or is it what's already happened?

James Follo

Analyst

What we talked about was the second quarter, and the only reason we have increases in the second quarter is we're comping against a rising market last year. There has not been a newsprint price increase announced since June of last year. So once we get into the third quarter, assuming no other increases, then you start comping against a flat newsprint price. And we haven't gone beyond the second quarter here.

William Bird - Lazard Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Leo Kulp with Citi.

Leo Kulp - Citigroup Inc

Analyst

Thanks for taking the question. Two quick ones. I know it's a little early, but could you talk a little bit about the impact on the payroll on traffic and revenues at the Times website, especially considering the remnant inventory issue? And then on the display weakness from the macro, is that because your advertisers have just, in general, been spending less on display because of the events? Or is it because they're spending less because the news environment was less attractive due to those events? And if that's the case, have you seen an improvement since these crises that sort of retreated from headlines?

James Follo

Analyst

Well, let me start with the traffic. Again, as we've been saying, we're going to keep the comments fairly high level at this point. We're very pleased with the progress we're making, and the traffic is well within our model in terms of its delivery and performance today. But we're three weeks into this, and I don't think it's a good idea to get into too much more detail. And so far, all of the theories that we had with respect to the metered model. How it works? How we modeled it? What its impact on premium inventory is? What its impact on remnant inventory is? All of them are above our expectations with respect to the kind of performance that we're seeing. So just to reiterate something that Janet said in her prepared remarks, we fully expect to meet any of our premium inventory needs as we go further into the year, based on what we've seen to date.

Scott Heekin-Canedy

Analyst

Leo, Scott. If I understand your question about display correctly, I'm not sure I would tie -- first of all, it wasn't just display. There were a number of categories that were affected by this climate in March. The way I would explain it is that the news events, the turmoil in the Middle East had direct impact on oil prices and then the crisis in Japan raised questions about the strength of the economy and consumer confidence and business confidence, whether these events would have a significant impact on the economy, and I think now that we're cycling past kind of the shock effect of those news events, people are regaining their confidence and that's why we've seen an improving trend in early April.

Janet Robinson

Analyst

And there's no correlation, Leo, between display and the paid model. Just to remember that the paid model really didn't start until March 28.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Edward Atorino with Benchmark Company.

Edward Atorino - The Benchmark Company, LLC

Analyst

I have a couple of thoughts here. On The Times, there's a lot of buzzwords that people are finding their way around your system et cetera, like that, is that as severe as it looks on the outside? Secondly, on the online advertising, is there a fixed rate structure there? Or is it -- how do you price that, actually? And is there room to adjust pricing as you go forward?

James Follo

Analyst

Well, let me start with the point about the pay wall, and just so everyone's on the same page, let's start with the fundamentals. Our model deliberately balances the need for broad reach for advertising purposes, against the need to create a second robust revenue stream on the subscriber side. So that's the idea. And to answer your question directly, we're seeing far less effect from the so-called workarounds than we, in fact, modeled. We know there are certain small number of people who will try to circumvent the wall. We have cataloged and continue to track every conceivable way that people are doing this. Again, the good news is that fewer people are doing it than we modeled. The people who are doing it will likely never pay in any event, and if we see the numbers change for whatever reason, we have a broad range of mitigating techniques to combat these unscrupulous people. So bottom line, the impacts are far less than we modeled, and we expected to have some impact. So there's really nothing more to say to it beyond that.

Edward Atorino - The Benchmark Company, LLC

Analyst

Has there been much affect on the print circulation yet?

Janet Robinson

Analyst

As I said, we have seen increases in home delivery across all frequencies, Ed, with the adoption of the paid model.

James Follo

Analyst

And I'm not precisely clear on your question about ad impressions. We have always had flexibility with respect to pricing and, in fact, The Times website has been at or near the top of the pricing pyramid for many years now and continues to be. And the reason for that, in part, is because even from the beginning, we were registering all of our heavy users, and could target much more finely than a typical website could target based on demographics and then over time, behavioral attributes. So we've been, we’ve had a lot of pricing leverage from the beginning. The Times website, in particular, is considered one of a rarified group of premium sites that do not need to work with ad networks. We work with no ad networks. We have a relationship with Google AdSense, which is a non-blind, so-called long-tail relationship, that is the only people who can buy the inventory, are Google, smaller advertisers, we have a 2,000 advertiser block list. But the rest of the inventory is all sold by us at premium. So part of the point that Janet made at the outset in her prepared remarks was that, we have a lot of excess inventory each month just like every website does, and it's that inventory that we can moderate to some extent, based on the metered model. So to summarize, we do have great leverage. We continue to have great leverage. We raised rates on key parts of the site, key parts of the site last year, both the homepage and some of our premium display positions. And I think we'll continue to have that going forward based on our audience and our brand composition.

Edward Atorino - The Benchmark Company, LLC

Analyst

One more question, on the joint venture income, it sounds like there could be negative numbers over the course of the year, given the large impact of the depreciation from the soccer team?

James Follo

Analyst

Well, look, I'm not going to get into what it is, or what it's not, but I will say that is pre-seasonal -- our objective on potential lines are pre-seasonal line, which is a lot of that is very much driven around the baseball season. So the baseball season is obviously very concentrated in the second and the third quarter. So I wouldn't necessarily extrapolate that first quarter into the rest of the year.

Edward Atorino - The Benchmark Company, LLC

Analyst

Got you. Okay, thanks.

Operator

Operator

We'll take a follow-up question from John Janedis with UBS.

John Janedis - UBS Investment Bank

Analyst

My question was answered.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the question-and-answer session today. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Schwartz for any additional or closing remarks.

Paula Schwartz

Analyst

Thanks, again for joining our call. Please call us if you have any additional question.