David Anderson
Analyst · Siebert, Williams, Shank
Yes. And I appreciate the question, Chris. I think for those on the phone, I think the first thing is to make sure everybody understands that when you look at our residential and sales customers, they represent about 5% of the state's emissions in our -- in Oregon. And Oregon, in general, has very low emissions, but we do believe there are going to be opportunities to lower that even further and to make sure that we do that.Along the line that you're talking about, the rule-making is in process, right? So we don't really have all items that we need to kind of work through this. But the law clearly sets the ability for us to probably invest around -- in terms of revenue increases, around $30 million. It's about 5% of revenues is what the bill highlights. Now whether that ends up being straightforward purchases, Chris, or it results in revenue requirement from investment opportunities, that's yet to be determined. From my perspective, strategically, I think it's important to get as much renewable natural gas on the system as quickly as possible, and that might start off with purchases. We will, obviously, work with the PUC not only through this rule-making process but in the future to see if there's opportunities on the investment side. But the key for us is to get that renewable natural gas flowing.And renewable natural gas, as you mentioned, is numerous items. It's obviously gas from landfills and wastewater facilities, like the one we did here with Portland and dairies, but it also includes what I'm really excited about is the new technologies out there that you mentioned that's power to gas. And that's using excess electricity generation, which we are abundant here at certain times of the year because of our hydro situation and our wind generation, to create hydrogen. And we can't put hydrogen on the system. And in fact, this is not really new technology, they've been doing it in Europe for a period of time. And we look forward to try to do that here. In fact, we're working on a pilot project with the City of Eugene right now.So all that being in place, it's an exciting opportunity. I would love to have more investment opportunities. But strategically, the most important thing to us right now is to get more decarbonized gas on the system. And then long term, we'll see whether the investment opportunities play out or not. Hopefully, that makes sense.