Stephen Macadam
Analyst · Sidoti & Company.
We can easily follow-up with Don on that. I mean, I know it's in our stuff. I just don't want to quote a wrong number, Joe. But ,no, that market has been good, because again when we, you've got to make sure that when you are looking at GST, Garlock you are looking at the whole family of Garlock companies, which would include both what's consolidated and what's deconsolidated, right. So when you add that whole thing up, that's then the -- and most of the most of the refinery and petrochem exposure in Garlock is actually in the GST LLC, in the filed entity. So it's going to be in the GST, in the separate deconsolidated numbers, okay, certainly in the U.S. But when you look at the business as a total and the whole family of companies, no, it's been very, very - it's been stable. And we feel pretty good about it. I mean, we feel that there's going to be a decent turnaround season that comes up in Q2 this year. We've got decent distribution orders for that. The weakness that we are seeing in Garlock is in the consolidated portion in Europe as part of the PSI acquisition we did. We have some exposure to waste water and water projects. So when a city municipality does a big refurb of a waste water plant or a puts new water piping in, et cetera, et cetera, we sell a lot of pipeline products into that market. That's a business that we acquired with -- it came as part of the PSI acquisition and its European based, primarily Germany. Because none of it -- and so when Alex talks about infrastructure for water and waste water, he's talking about infrastructure really in Europe. And because they don't have a lot of money in those cities, even though they've got a pretty antiquated infrastructure, that project activity has been very, very slow. And that's really the primary area of weakness that we've seen in Garlock and that does show up on the consolidated side.