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Neptune Insurance Holdings Inc. (NP)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, May 12, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Nandi and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Neenah Paper First Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, May 12, 2016. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Bill McCarthy, Vice President, Financial Analysis and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. McCarthy.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Okay, good morning and thank you for joining us on our first quarter earnings call. With me today is John O'Donnell, our Chief Executive Officer, I am sad to say that Bonnie Lind, our Chief Financial Officer, had a death in the family and he is unable to join us this morning. So I’ll do my best to finish it for her. As usual, following our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. Let me start up with a few comments before turning things over to John. We completed a number of important strategic activities last year, including the acquisition of FiberMark on August 1st, and the divestiture of our wall covering mill in Germany at the end of October, results for this divested wall cover business for the first 10 months of last year are therefore shown as discontinued operations. FiberMark results have been incorporated into each of our segments and are no longer clearly separable as we have continued to integrate and realize efficiencies from combining operations. In the first quarter, integration and restructuring cost were $1.1 million or $0.04 per share and have been excluded from adjusted earnings. There were no adjusted items in Q1 2015, and these adjusted figures are a non-GAAP measure that we use to improve comparability between periods and are reconciled to corresponding GAAP figures in our press release. Finally as a remainder, our comments today may include forward-looking statements. Risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from these statements are outlined in our SEC filings and in the Safe Harbor disclaimer on our Web site. And with that, I will turn things over to John. John O’Donnell: Thank you, Bill, and good morning. Our business has began the year with record results and double-digit growth, in…

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Thanks John. I’ll start with technical products. Quarterly sales of 122 million grew 15% due both through acquired sales and growth in our heritage business that was led by higher shipments of filtration and backings. Partly offsetting this was a lower average selling price due to mix and pricing on grades with adjustors based on input costs. Currency had a relatively small impact in the quarter, reducing sales 1% as a result of a 3% decline in the value of the euro relative to the dollar. Operating income after excluding integration cost was 300,000 was 19.5 million up 25% from just under 16 million last year. Higher profits resulted primarily from increased revenues and lower input costs that more than offset higher SG&A and currency impacts. Turning to Fine Paper & Packaging, first quarter sales were 114 million. This was consistent with the last two quarters and is up 5% from year ago levels, as additional acquired revenues more than offset lower sales in our heritage business. As John mentioned, this resulted from reduced sales of lower value grades as well as a slower start in commercial and consumer sales. In total Fine Paper continues to deliver great returns and cash flows. EBIT margins continue in the mid-teens and adjusted operating income which excludes 300,000 of integration costs was 17.8 million, up slightly from last year as benefits from lower input costs, higher sales and manufacturing efficiencies were partly offset by a less favorable mix and higher SG&A. The SG&A increase reflected both what was acquired and also about $1 million of higher spending due to timing of advertising and research trials that will moderate in the second half. Total consolidated SG&A expense was 26.4 million, up from 20.8 million last year. About two-thirds of the increase reflected incremental SG&A…

Operator

Operator

[Operating Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Dan Jacome from Sidoti.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Just a couple of quick questions here, I guess first on cost structure, just wondering kind of the benefit or tailwind you are getting from lower pull cost in energy, do you guys think they are sustainable and how are you thinking about them through the balance of the year, I think you said they were correlated to kind of micro but just wanted to get a little bit more on that? John O’Donnell: Sure. So we saw input costs beginning to decline last year, and throughout last year actually we had decline in input cost. So that’s why when I mentioned that the first quarter is probably going to have the largest year-over-year comparative impact. So going forward and obviously they are going to be moderated this is probably going to be our largest quarter of benefit if you will from that standpoint. And yes we did say that when economic conditions are bit tepid you get input cost declining and helps to offset, if the economic conditions pick up a bit, which I would prefer like capitalizing on getting that happened through input costs. But from our standpoint, now especially when you think about our fine paper businesses those have been fairly sticky and we enjoy some of the margins during that time period but in our performance material business we have got a lot of contractual business that’s tied to input costs.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay got it, thanks for that. And then I wanted to turn to technical products and sorry if I missed it, can you just elaborate on what is happening with pricing there, if I am not mistaking, I think it was the headwind this quarter? John O’Donnell: No, I think our technical products business it delivered a margin of about 16% both of our businesses performance materials and filtration demonstrated low single-digit volume growth.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay. John O’Donnell: And there maybe mix issues as you are working through that. But if I say headwinds Dan might have been not in the room I don’t know.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

I think we continue to get price in most of our businesses but as I mentioned a small portion of our business does have price adjustors and technical products and maybe that’s what you are referring to, but that counter get reflective of the lower input costs. John O’Donnell: Yes I think that would be protective of margins and I think they have done a just a heroic job of improving margins, maybe into the mid-teen margins we have been talking about so.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay, so did, staying on that, did filtration media grow in the quarter ex-acquisitions volumes? John O’Donnell: Yes, we didn’t acquire anything in the filtration business.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay, just checking just a thought okay. John O’Donnell: Yes, yes.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Okay.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

And then on the paper side, last question, you mentioned there was some softness on the heritage side, I just want to -- can you remind us again what is in there and does that include ASTROBRIGHTS? John O’Donnell: Yes it would be inclusive of ASTROBRIGHTS but really I think the headwind and I might used it there is on our more historical branded print products from that standpoint. As a remainder, we moved all those products, a majority of those products through wholesale distributors and so from an inventory movement standpoint, we had a weaker first quarter than we did fourth quarter, which is kind of opposite of what we normally would expect as people manage inventories in the fourth quarter. I fully expect that that will come back as we move forward it's still a business that has pressure of 2% to 3% decline secular decline. But it looks like it is a little greater dip in the quarter.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jon Tanwanteng from CJS Securities.

Robert Majek

Analyst

This is actually Robert Majek filling in for Jon today. John O’Donnell: Hi Robert.

Robert Majek

Analyst

You touched on it, but can you just give us a little more color on what you are seeing in terms of end market demand in input pricing trends half way to Q2 perhaps maybe touch on any surprising areas of strength or weakness? John O’Donnell: As far as moving into Q2 for end used demand?

Robert Majek

Analyst

Right. John O’Donnell: Our filtration business and our technical business have been very steady. Again our performance material tends for ride more with global GDP filtration, because of the spread between 20% going to OEM and 80% aftermarket in transportation filtration it continues to tick along. After market grows at 4%, we have historically grown about 8%, I haven't seen those changing from a technical side of the business it is very solid. I mentioned in the previous question that our fine paper business is typically out of inventory so there is inventory movement. In that business the commercial print was a little weak in the first quarter and we expect that to pick up in the -- as we move through more normalized through the rest of the year. The premium packaging we have expectations much like this quarter in double-digit growth which I think will offset some of that historical pressure that was held on the print paper side. Does that help?

Robert Majek

Analyst

Yes that was helpful. And do you expect any impact from the dissolution of the Office Depot, Staples merger? John O’Donnell: No, we don’t anticipate that that will have any meaningful impact to us at all.

Robert Majek

Analyst

Okay. And just lastly from me, any update on the acquisition pipeline? And if you feel more or less urgent to do deals this year, kind of given the significant investment in the Wisconsin plant? John O’Donnell: Well, I rarely let my organization say well we’re too busy. So I won’t use that as a rationale. But you’re right the market has been very quiet I think Q1 has been from a volume standpoint one of the lowest quarters of volume since 2009, and whether that’s regarding the economic conditions in China and the strong U.S. dollar or even on the pending election here I don’t know from that standpoint. From ours it's hard to predict the timing we are just as energetic in this quarter as we will be in the next quarter in looking for the right opportunity. So M&A is not the sole solution as we talked about the different pockets of growth we have. But it will part of our growth expectations going forward. And so hope that addresses it.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Steve Chercover from D.A. Davidson.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

Just forgive me if these are a little bit housekeeping oriented but can you just remind us what your stretch level or comfort level would be on leverage? John O’Donnell: Yes I think what we said that we would want to operate normally in the two to three times debt to EBITDA range, but we would go up for the right acquisition to 4 or 4 plus and then our priority for cash usage would change and then we look to delever after that.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

And you’re currently about 1.5, is that right? John O’Donnell: That’s correct.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

Okay. So don’t need to believe or the fact that you’ve got plenty of dry powder. And what was the average price that you paid for the shares you repurchased in the quarter? John O’Donnell: Well in the first quarter it was in the low to mid-50s over the past four or five years it was in the mid-40s.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

And then I mean clearly not only you have the dry powder but you’ve got the bench strength that you could look at acquisitions right now if sales was in your wheelhouse, correct? John O’Donnell: Yes we are looking at acquisitions right now. As I mentioned before it's an important component of our growth strategy. I think what’s critically important is not only being prepared to do one but finding the right one that has a right fit and makes the most sense for our shareholders. But you're exactly right that’s nothing from a financing standpoint that’s preventing us from adding to the growth of Neenah, that’s for sure.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

So the market had its kind of swoon in January-February and I think typically you’re looking more at private opportunities. So, was there a similar dislocation in valuations in the private realm? John O’Donnell: Though we haven’t seen a significant drop in valuation, maybe it's pulled in by half a tonne sell through. I think for us while we fully expect that we will be paying a higher multiple for growth in that regards, we want to make sure again right fit and right timing for us.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

And then my final question is we know the currency is less of the headwind and hopefully that’s because Europe is getting stronger as opposed to the U.S. weakening. But can you contrast on the two geographies for us? John O’Donnell: Yes and it is a reminder, the biggest portion of -- while we have strong sales in performance materials and in filtration, 70% of our filtration sales are in Europe. And so it tends to be a category that kind of works its way through all the economic conditions, I mean we continue to show Europe here I think we’re on our 11th of 8% CAGR. We don’t have a significant number of product categories that are ebbing and flowing with the currency over that. What we -- also what I mentioned during our prepared remarks is that we’ve combined or organized under performance materials segment to make sure that our tape and abrasives have a footprint in both of those markets so that we can balance and minimize the swing that currency had a tendency to inadvertently add to our growth issue. So, from my standpoint, I think a ambiguous study as she goes I see a fairly steady demand for the products that we’re providing over in Europe, and that is it. Is there another caller operator?

Operator

Operator

Yes, you have a question from the line of Mark Weintraub from Buckingham Research.

Brendan Munson

Analyst

Hi, this is actually Brennan Munson filling in for Mark. Just a quick follow up on the M&A front, if you don’t come across any acquisitions that quite fit the bill is there a point in time that you shift your focus more heavily to additional organic investments, or perhaps even more to the dividend? John O’Donnell: Yes, I think what we have communicated in the past, our priorities for uses of cash is first organic in CapEx, so we will continue to use that as our highest priority and we have pretty significant efforts underway, and there I don’t want to out run my organization's capability for that. And then from that standpoint M&A is the second use, because we are very focused on changing the growth trajectory of the business. Dividends was our third share report purchases which we have authorization for being our fourth, as we don’t need to talk about reduction is better, anything like that because we know where we are at. So that will continue with that same consistency in the uses of cash. Where I am sitting today, my belief is that there are companies available that would continue to help Neenah on its path of growth and I am optimistic that we will find that over some severance of time. If not we won't. We will just move down the usage of cash and continue to find a best way to deploy it where it is meaningful for our shareholders.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further audio questions at this time. John O’Donnell: Okay, well then that concludes our call this morning. Thanks to everyone for your time and we look forward to updating you on our next in August.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.