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Neptune Insurance Holdings Inc. (NP)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 17, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Josephine and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Neenah Paper Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2015 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, February 17, 2016. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Bill McCarthy, Vice President, Financial Analysis and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. McCarthy.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Okay, thank you, and good morning, everyone. We released earnings yesterday afternoon, and in our call today John O'Donnell, our Chief Executive Officer; and Bonnie Lind, our Chief Financial Officer, will discuss business activities and results in detail. As usual, following our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. I will start off with a few comments before turning things over to John and Bonnie. We completed a number of strategic activities in 2015, including the acquisition of FiberMark on August 1 and the divestiture of our wall covering mill in Lahnstein, Germany at the end of October 31. Financial results reflect Lahnstein as discontinued operations in all periods and include FiberMark starting in August. FiberMark’s products are included in each of our business segments and as we integrate and realize efficiencies from our combined operations, we will not be reporting these separately as we go forward into 2016. Also, a notable event in the fourth quarter was that the U.S. Congress act to approve renewal of various tax credits including credits for investments in R&D. Consequently, we recognized benefits for credits earned for the full year in the fourth quarter in both 2014 and 2015. In addition, we were able to recognize credits for previously unclaimed work related to prior periods, but have excluded these from adjusted earnings. These excluded prior period credits were $1 million or $0.07 per share in 2015 and almost $17 million or $1 per share in 2014. As a reminder, adjusted figures are non-GAAP measure that we used to improve comparability between periods. And these numbers are reconciled to corresponding GAAP figures in our press release. In addition, our comments today will include forward-looking statements. Risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from these statements are outlined in…

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Thank you, John. I’ll start with segment results which, as we’ve mentioned, include a portion of the acquired FiberMark business. I’ll also cover quarterly results and 2016 expectations for corporate items. So beginning with technical products, quarterly sales of $108 million were up a 11%. This resulted from 3% growth in our base business, supplemented by 14% boost from acquired sales, partly offset by currency translation, which reduced sales 6%. Organic growth was driven by increased volumes for filtration and labels, partly offset by lower backing sales. Operating income after excluding integration and restructuring costs was $13 million, up 21% from last year. Increased income resulted from timing differences for annual filtration and maintenance down in Germany, higher sales volumes, improved operational efficiencies, and lower input costs, which combined more than offset negative effects from currency translation and added SG&A from the acquisitions. Turning to Fine Paper & Packaging, sales were $112 million, up 6% from last year, while FiberMark added around 10% to the total, it was partly offset by a 4% decline in organic sales. As John mentioned, this was due to reduced shipments and lower margin in special order business and also likely reflected the slower U.S. economic growth reported for the fourth quarter. Excluding one-time acquisition and integration costs, adjusted operating income was $15.8 million, up 4% from 2014. Profit increased as a result of lower input costs, higher net selling prices, and lower SG&A spending. Consolidated selling, general and administrative expense was $24.9 million compared with $21.6 million last year. The increase was primarily due to the acquisition. Going forward, quarterly SG&A is expected to average around $24 million. Unallocated corporate costs, which are part of SG&A were $4.8 million, and included 300,000 for integration and restructuring. Excluding this, costs of $4.5 million were slightly…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Dan Jacome with Sidoti.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Hey, good morning. How are you? John O’Donnell: Good, Dan, good morning.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Just first one, I was just wondering about the cash tax benefit you’re going to see this year. I'm just wondering more about kind of the timing. Is it going to be spread out this year, or is it going to skew more to the fourth quarter again?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Okay. So, Dan, are you talking about the R&D credits?

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Yes.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Yes. So that – we expect that to be a little under $2 million. And as you pointed out, we’ve been looking it in the fourth quarter, the last two years. Now that Congress made the credit permanent, we will spread that out over the four quarters.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Okay. Gotcha, thanks. And then, I think, John, you mentioned you’re taking a label share from a competitor. I was just wondering, if you could share it if it was a U.S., or it may be Europe-based competitor? John O’Donnell: Yes, I don’t remember I mentioned taking share from a label. What I did mention is, we introduced three new label products, at least, three that probably underestimating the progress of my organization. But we really had a very strong label performance in our Technical Products business this year, and that’s really what I was referencing. A big part of that growth that came in the category we call the other specialty materials products came from strong label growth and we anticipate that to continue.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Okay, great. And then staying on that topic, I think, you mentioned you had a customer based out of Asia that – can you talk a little bit more about that, is that kind of like a one-off situation? John O’Donnell: Sure. Yes, it’s pretty much a one-off situation. But – so in the tape business, virtually every tape customer we deal with has an ability to self saturate. We typically play in the very high-end technical saturating capability. So the more – it’s more commodity oriented. And in that case, this was a customer who had plans to add a saturator and do their own saturation, and we’ve seen that coming from notable years. So it's not a – it’s not something that happens as a surprise at around every moment. Right now we see the tape market is about $700 million market, and the part that we play in is about 20% of that, and we have a very nice position in that higher-end segment.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Okay. I really appreciate the color. And then lastly, I Just was wondering on the buyback program, wondering that the Board see the stock more attractively valued now down 8% year-to-date, I know, it's been kind of tough environment for a small cap – Paper and Packaging, if any thoughts there? John O’Donnell: Well, we do have a $30 million approval from – for share purchases, Bonnie, it’s correct to be 25, excuse me, from that piece of it. So – and you're exactly right. But when see the value of the share price is much lower than the intrinsic value, that’s what I mean when I say, we have opportunistic share repurchases, and we’ll continue to take advantage of that. Our primary use of cash especially in returning cash to shareholders should be through our attractive dividend, but both are our important tools in our toolbox.

Daniel Jacome

Analyst

Okay, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Steve Chercover with Davidson.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

Good morning, everyone.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Davidson.

Good morning. John O’Donnell: Good morning.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

So my – just a couple of quickies. John O’Donnell: Sure.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

First of all, the import duties that were recently placed on cut size uncoated free sheet, did that have any benefit for you? I mean, I know that you're not a commodity producer, but maybe on the ASTROBRIGHTS or some other trickle down effect? John O’Donnell: Just a minimal that has any impact trickle down gave me the minimal part. But I would say, you’re exactly right. We’re not a commodity producer. We weren’t negatively impacted by imports, especially at the high-end branded portion of our businesses. So I don’t see it as a detriment, but I don't see it as a real benefit either.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

I mean, do you raise prices for your ASTROBRIGHTS or other kind of, I don’t want to call it commodity, but for papers that could be – run through a copier nonetheless? John O’Donnell: Sure.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

Independent of what the big boys are doing, or do you wait for pricing signals? John O’Donnell: Yes, that’s an easy one. We make all of our pricing decisions independent from everyone else out there in that regards, whether it's printed on an offset or digitally. It’s really not the real benefit that our products – we try to make our products, so it's agnostic as to what technology we use to make it. But it’s really the color, the texture, and the high end weight both cotton materials recycle [ph] that makes our products unique from that standpoint. So there – you’re right in the sense that there are other players who have colored papers that are more commodity oriented. But that’s why we believe ASTROBRIGHTS has done so well especially in this past year, because there’s a point of difference between the quality of our products and the strength of that brand.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

Great. And then this is my interpretation of your body language, but still seems that you’ve got firepower to do deals, maybe the size of FiberMark better. So that’s one I’d make sure I'm not misinterpreting it. I think you have the desire to continue growing via acquisition? John O’Donnell: Yes, I couldn’t be more proud of the organization to get through a year, where we acquired FiberMark. It’s still be in the same strength on the balance sheet where we were at the beginning of the year. There’s no doubt that if and both the financial capability, but also the organization's ability to do a deal if you will, and finding the right alignment for our strategic needs going forward. So those – we do keep an active radar. We have dedicated resources towards that and acquisitions. M&A are going to be an important part going forward. I always say that three most difficult uses of cash are M&A, M&A, and M&A, all right for that simply. So I don't underestimate how difficult they are from that standpoint, but clearly, it is going to be a meaningful part of our future like it has been in the past.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

But there's no reason to believe then that 2016 is a year devoted to digestion? John O’Donnell: Yes, if I don't find the right company, or the right value, we won’t pay – we won’t overpay for a company. It’s hard to recover from that standpoint. So you should expect that we’re going to go into 2016 like we went into 2015, managing the business as we have, driving the mix that we have, improving the margin cost positions that we have, and then given the right opportunities making sure we are in the position to take advantage of those.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

And by the same token – sorry, go ahead.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Davidson.

I was just going to say you're right. We do have the available firepower that we have over $100 million of availability ready availability on our revolvers. And then with the debt to EBITDA of 1.6 times, we’re comfortable in that. We say two to three that’s our real comfort zone, but we have – we’d even be willing to lever up above that.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

Yes. And it's fair to say that given your statements on the intrinsic value of the equity, you would not be using equity to finance an acquisition?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Davidson.

This is really big. John O’Donnell: Yeah, okay. It depends on the event, but your assumption is very logical.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst · Davidson.

Yeah.

Steve Chercover

Analyst · Davidson.

Very good. Thanks for taking my questions. John O’Donnell: You bet.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst · Davidson.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Bill McCarthy for closing remarks. I’m sorry, you do have a question from [indiscernible] Capital. John O’Donnell: Great.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. I was wondering if you could help put some perimeters around kind of the exposure you have on the transportation side, autos, particularly, seems like there is increasing concern in the marketplace, a kind of the recovery in the auto cycle maybe peaking out here. So any kind of comfort do you think you have as you add capacity, it’s going to be utilized in a manner that you expect it to be? John O’Donnell: Sure. That’s a great question. There are two things that we will need to consider. First, in the transportation filtration media market there is really three global players. So it fairly comes consolidated market, two of which participate in the United States with different technologies. So I think there is plenty of room from another supplier for that. If you look at our transportation filtration sales, may have been about 8% a year for the last 11 years and the only one year, 2009, when we didn’t have that growth rate, which was a great recession when everybody parked their car. So our business is really tied around miles and the way you think about miles, so if you are not buying a new car, which would be consuming filters, you are going to be taking care of your existing car. And right now, we sell about 30% in the OEM and about 70% in the aftermarket.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. And then… John O’Donnell: I’m sorry. So in conclusion, it’s a very steady market from that piece of it, it is not tied heavily to OEM.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then just to have the right mindset around the capacity, you said it’s kind of – I guess at the assumptions you are making kind of 5 years of… John O’Donnell: Yeah.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

…growth and kind of coming around kind of relatively [ph]? John O’Donnell: Yeah, there is two things driving. I’ve been part of the paper industry for many, many years. And you can try to bring a capacity in and shove it into the market, that is not how we are bringing this asset up for a couple of reasons. It takes about a year or two years to qualify with customer that your products meet and can be utilized for the projects. So it’s a long qualifications and that’s the nice barrier to entry. So for us what’s really important is that we can support the global growth of our key customers over the next five years. So we’ve got a fairly conservative runway. If the enthusiasm by our customers is greater than we had anticipated, I’d love to make that a little steeper acceleration, but today we’ve got a conservative approach to how we are bringing it to market and feel very good about our plans going forward.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much. John O’Donnell: Very well.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. John O’Donnell: Hi, Jon.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. John O’Donnell: You bet.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Can you talk a little bit about trends heading into Q1, markets and confidence have obviously been volatile. Are you experiencing incremental sequential demand headwinds at your customers, over what you saw in Q4? John O’Donnell: Yeah, I would say that in Q4 we didn’t – from a U.S. standpoint, we didn’t have a strong fine paper business and I don’t see that changing dramatically as we roll into the beginning of 2014. What we talked about was our technical business, transportation, filtration typically running at global GDP plus the rest of our technical business about global GDP and those are in the markets where we compete. So we're heavy Western European, not real robust from an economic conditions and then also in the U.S. Our fine paper business is predominantly in the U.S. and the big challenge with our fine paper business is that it’s heavily branded, that’s the good news, but it’s a short lead time business. So as the business slows down, we see it immediately from that standpoint. Another reminder, too, is that the businesses are very seasonal. So while fine paper is more first half and second half fairly equal, our technical business typically has a stronger first quarter than second quarter than third and the weakest in the fourth. So I think it’s important to keep that in mind as well as you are thinking about revenue in those quarters.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay, great. And John, I think you said you expect market growth in line with 2014 or 2015 is that off of adjusted base excluding Lahnstein and inclusive of what you see in foreign exchange? John O’Donnell: Yes.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay. And then finally just on the CapEx plans for this year, I think you are little bit above the 3% to 5% of sales range. Are you accelerating plans in Wisconsin or adding anything else in there or would that just be you are exceeding temporarily to get that up and running? John O’Donnell: Both. Obviously, if we can bring that asset up as early as we can bring it up is as early as we can begin filling it and selling it. So while we have and thank you for reminding me that 3% to 5% cadence of our overall capital spend, it’s been a guideline to really ensure that market. And we are not going to go have a crazy paper company moment of overspending to that end. But at the same time, it’s not a barrier to prevent it from making good decisions and from a timing. The group is right on track with our project there and I’m very pleased at their ability to get all of that done in this year. So…

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And then just one quick one, the $3 million in additional expenses that are non-capital expenses tied to the project, is that a one times item and when do you expect to incur that?

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Yeah, those are onetime items, we expect to incur them throughout 2016 and there are things like we have to insure the assets, we have environmental studies we have do, we have great transitions as we move the fine paper grades off of that paper machine and into the rest of our footprint, it’s just stuff like that. So I think we don’t expect to see a lot of them in the first quarter, but they will ramp up in the second, third and fourth.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got you. Thank you very much guys. John O’Donnell: You are welcome.

Bonnie Lind

Analyst

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Bill McCarthy for closing remarks.

Bill McCarthy

Analyst

Okay. Well, this time that really concludes our call this morning. So thank you for your time and we look forward to updating you on our call.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.