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Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 5, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the NN, Inc. Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Tryka from Investor Relations at NN. Please go ahead.

Jeff Tryka

Analyst

Thank you, MJ. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. I'm Jeff Tryka, Investor Relations contact for NN, Inc. And I'd like to thank you for attending today's business update. Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2022, as well as supplemental presentation, which have been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website. If anyone needs a copy of the press release or the supplemental presentation, you may contact Lambert & Co. at (315) 529-2348. Our presenters on the call this morning will be Warren Veltman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mike Felcher, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd ask that you take note of the cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements contained in today's press release, supplemental presentation and in the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2021, as well as other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The same language applies to comments made on today's conference call, including the Q&A session as well as the live webcast. Our presentation today will contain forward-looking statements regarding sales, margins, input cost inflation, supply chain constraints, the impact of the automotive semiconductor chip shortage, foreign exchange rates, cash flow, tax rates, acquisitions, synergies, cash and cost savings, future operating results, performance of our worldwide markets and the impacts of the coronavirus or COVID-19 pandemic and the Russian-Ukrainian conflict on the company's financial conditions and other topics. These statements should be used with caution and are subject to various risks and uncertainties, many of which are outside of the company's control. The presentation also includes certain non-GAAP measures as defined by SEC rules. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP measures is contained in the tables in the final section of the press release and the supplemental presentation. Reviewing the agenda for today's call, Warren will open with comments on our long-term strategic priorities, building on what we outlined at our recent Investor Day then provide an update from the second quarter. Mike will then provide a detailed update on the financial results before turning the call back over to Warren to discuss our segment results and markets as well as our outlook for 2022, which has been revised based on our current view of business and external factors influencing our results. There will be a Q&A session following the conclusion of the prepared remarks. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Warren Veltman, President and CEO. Warren?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning. Let me start my comments by indicating that our teams have been constructively adapting to a very challenging environment characterized by supplier interruptions, inflationary cost pressures, labor constraints and fluctuating customer volumes. That said, we are not satisfied with our second quarter results, and we need to do better. NN possesses an action-oriented culture predicated on improving every day. So I have strong faith that our teams will rise to meet the challenge presented by this current environment. As we discussed in our May 2022 Investor Day, we have positioned NN for future success through numerous actions and initiatives. If you turn to Page 4 of the presentation, we will review some of the cornerstone initiatives. We have focused our sales efforts on key growth areas. As a refresher, our strategy is focused on the megatrends shaping the future of our markets, and specifically, the transition from a carbon-based economy to a sustainable energy economy. We view this strategy as not only good for the environment, but good for our business as the opportunity of content per vehicle for NN's products on electric vehicles is expected to be approximately triple that of traditional internal combustion engine vehicles. We are targeting sales in the electrical and EV markets to represent more than 20% of NN's consolidated sales by 2025. To deliver focused and accelerated penetration in our targeted segment markets, we are investing in electrical and EV expertise as well as organizing our commercial organization around the growth segments of our strategy instead of the historically narrower objectives of NN's operating groups. By doing so, we position ourselves to more effectively differentiate NN within the segment with the full arsenal of NN's capabilities, both mobile and power, with…

Mike Felcher

Analyst

Thanks, Warren. Turning to Page 9, we have summarized some of the key items for the quarter. Sales for the quarter were $125.4 million, up 1.8% from the second quarter of 2021. We continued to see improvement in our residential and commercial electric end market within our Power Solutions group, which was up 15.6% year-over-year, driving year-over-year revenue growth of 5.6% for the segment. This growth was partially offset by a 0.7% decrease in revenues in the Mobile Solutions business versus the prior year, driven by the factors Warren noted and a delay in material inflation recovery as well as unrecovered inflationary, labor and other costs. Results were further impacted by operational inefficiencies due to the ongoing supply chain disruption. We finalized the settlement with a customer in which we received modern equipment at no cost as compensation for volume shortfalls, resulting in a positive impact of $2.3 million of sales and EBITDA in the quarter. The settlement will also help us avoid future capital expenditures as this equipment is already designated for use in a new program. The resurgence of COVID-19 in China negatively impacted operations at our wholly owned and joint venture facilities weighing on second quarter results. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $10.9 million or 8.7% of sales, down from $13.4 million or 10.9% of sales a year ago. Our EBITDA margin was adversely impacted by continued material and labor cost inflation. Although we were able to successfully pass through the majority of inflation on material to customers through price increases, the total impact of inflation on manufacturing supplies, MRO, utilities, unrecovered material and labor amounted to approximately $3 million to $4 million during the second quarter when compared to the prior year. GAAP diluted EPS was a loss of $0.25 for the second…

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. On Page 15, we broadly outline our view of current market conditions within each of our main markets. Within the electrical space, we see the ongoing transformation of the energy and electrical equipment markets with governments and corporations around the world adopting policies, implementing incentives and allocating funds to accelerate the adoption of sustainable energy. The demand for electric control panels is expected to resume its rapid growth by the end of 2022 as companies continue to invest in operating infrastructure. Fortune Business Insights reported that the global market size for battery electric storage is estimated to rise from $10.9 billion in 2022 to $31.2 billion by 2029, which is a compounded growth rate of 16.3%. The commercial, private and industrial sectors are expected to yield the highest demand for battery electric storage, while the rising penetration of lithium-ion batteries is likely to support broader growth. Expansion of the infrastructure projects, along with the growth in the transportation sector, will encourage global leaders and new entrants to tap into these opportunities. The transition to EVs continues to gather momentum with significant OEM investment, including additional shift in their employee compensation plan designs to support EV development and commercialization. We recently saw Ford announced a significant increase in their planned investment in developing EV solutions for the broad market. While we believe the transition to EVs is inevitable, the ultimate path and time frame for the transition is uncertain. On the Mobile Solutions side, light vehicle production forecast updates for the month of July indicate recovery in China and South Asia markets, partially offset by ongoing supply chain pressures as well as deteriorating economic conditions culminating with a global sales forecast that is now flat with 2021. IHS Markit advises the auto industry is already operating at or…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Rob Brown of Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

RobBrown

Analyst

Good morning. Want to dig in a little bit on your kind of efforts to deal with the inflationary pressures. Do you feel like you've got that sort of in the contract base now? Or as things change with inflation, do you still think there's a lag? Or how do we sort of think about the lag at this point that's in the contract base.

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. Rob, in most cases, just to reiterate, we have secured pricing on material at 100%. And when I say in most cases, most of the customers - significant majority of the customers within the Mobile Solutions group, that is the case. There are just a few customers where we might not have 100% recovery. But the issue is the timing of that recovery is predicated on either twice a year or each quarter meetings where we look back at what the average price of the material cost was during the quarter and then make an adjustment prospectively, okay? So there is - that's what we're calling the lag. And that has obviously created an issue for us in the second quarter where we had some unreimbursed costs that will certainly true up as we negotiate with the customer going forward. There are additional costs. We've done - I think our financial teams have done a very nice job of analyzing how we're being impacted in other areas. We've been going through and doing a part-by-part analysis as an example of MRO and other manufacturing supplies and what our year-over-year cost increase is for that. We now are approaching customers with that data and talking to them about recovery of some of those types of costs as well. And that is ongoing. So I would expect at least over the next quarter, there will still be a certain amount of lag if inflation continues to push up. It should be - I would tell you it should be less of an impact in the third quarter as we're seeing some of these cost increases slowing. We've actually seen some pricing actually go the other way, and interestingly, had some customers approach us about adjusting our pricing automatically for some of that price movement. And obviously, we said no. We'll go with the approach that we have. But it's still certainly a threat to the business. I think that we are on it as a management team. As I indicated, the pricing that we've received from customers through the first six months certainly has exceeded what our expectation was at the beginning of the year, but still has the inflation movement.

RobBrown

Analyst

Great. That's great color. And then sort of on the EV activity or the new contract activity, you had some good progress there and there's a lot in the pipeline. It's good to see your efforts paying off there. But just wanted to get a further sense of how those efforts are seeing resonance? Are you taking kind of share in that business? Or is it just the overall markets happening and your - it kind of fits with what you do. But I presume you're taking share, but just want to get a sense of how the share gains are happening because of your offerings in that market.

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. So let's break it down. On the EV side, certainly, we're - I think you could characterize it as we're taking share as that business is coming to market, right? So it's an evolving situation where there's growth or opportunity for all suppliers to secure new business as the OEM production shifts from the more traditional ICE or internal combustion engine to electric vehicles. So we feel confident that we're positioned well to do that, and we're seeing that activity on various programs. On the grid side, we talked about that market and some of the growth that we're seeing there. There's opportunity - we see specifically opportunity in battery and energy storage opportunities for us when if you look at the North American concentration of that, there's very little production of batteries for battery energy storage that's being produced here in the United States. So we are pursuing several of the players that are involved in that for opportunities for us and components that we can manufacture there. So trying to grab our percentage of this year as that market evolves as well.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from Tom Kerr of Zacks Investment Research. Please go ahead.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Good morning. Can you maybe back up a little bit on the big cost issues. They call it the triple play: inflation, supply chain issues and labor shortages. Can you sort of break those down in detail? Like what is actually in there? What is the cost - where are the labor shortages? And sort of related to that, do those all show up in cost of goods sold or is some of that in SG&A?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Well, the labor shortage issue for us centers around potential disruptions that we have in our facility. And just to give you an indication, if we have an individual within a facility, within a product area that tests positive for COVID, obviously, he has to leave the facility. And then through our contract tracing, we evaluate where he potentially could have had additional contacts within our facility and then those people need to leave the building as well. And we have situations when that happens where a whole product group can have a substantial portion of their employees leave the building with very little notice, right? And our general managers then have to react to that situation by reallocating resources from other areas, trying to have people work overtime and do whatever we need to in order to replace those individuals. That's one situation. Another situation would be where we have opportunity and we have backlog in the company, and we have had that in certain instances on the electrical side, and we just don't have the number of hours available given some of these constraints in order to satisfy that demand, okay? So you couple that with supply chain interruptions where we'll have a supplier notify us, as an example, material that we were expecting to receive for whatever reason something happened within their facility, and that material now is going to get pushed two to three weeks out. So it creates a huge gap within our manufacturing operations. So again, we have to reshuffle the deck. We have to work with our customer to try and find another source of that material if possible. And if not, we have to reshuffle the deck to try and reallocate resources within the facility. And then when that material shows up, we end up working extra hours in order to replenish any inventory queues that were deleted, okay? So those are some examples of some of the struggles that not just NN, but I think most suppliers are having in this type of environment.

Mike Felcher

Analyst

Yes. And I'd say in terms of relative magnitude, Tom, I'd say the unrecovered inflation is the predominant driver for the quarter. We've been operating in an environment of labor shortage and supply chain disruption for several quarters in a row. So particularly sequentially, the inflation impact is the main driver.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

But in terms of actual input costs, are we talking materials, chips or everything?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

From a cost standpoint, where we have - I would tell you where the majority of the unreimbursed inflationary cost for us today is - exists in areas of our business like manufacturing supplies, utilities, machine repair parts, those types of things where we've seen pretty severe inflationary pressure. If you look at some of our European operations and you follow what's going on with the Ukraine situation and the energy coming out of Russia - or not coming out of Russia today into Europe, it has skyrocketed some of the utility costs in Europe as a result. And those are the costs that we're talking - those are the types of costs that we're talking to customers today about pricing actions associated with those.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Got it. And separately, can you expand on the end market weakness just a little bit. I think you covered auto in the slides quite a bit, but maybe other color on that. And then the aerospace weakness as well.

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. So the aerospace sales adjustment, we've been going through a process where we're closing our Taunton facility, as an example, and we have been rationalizing some of that customer base, done a very tight analysis as it relates to a profitability by product, profitability by customer. And as we were shutting down that facility and relocating it to our Attleboro operations, we're moving business that we're confident is going to be a profitable business for us going forward. And we've also seen on the - just a general on the aerospace and defense side, that industry segment is down as it relates to overall production.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

All right. Got it. A couple more here on the sort of cost structure. You mentioned the facility closures, that's the primary driver of the $10 million in EBITDA, but you also mentioned operational improvement. I guess that means going through SG&A. Are you able to give any more details on that at this time? Or do you still expect that to be $50 million more a year going forward?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Well, one of the things - within the facility moves, you have a couple of issues there, right? You have certainly just the reduction in fixed costs where we're shedding or expect to shed lease costs, facility costs, facility maintenance, utility costs, certain indirect support functions because that facility no longer exists. So those costs are coming out. In addition, some of that business is moving to facilities where our cost structure is just more favorable. So we expect that our variable margin on that business is going to accelerate. So we have incorporated that in some of our estimates. We've seen continued reduction in our SG&A-related costs. As I indicated, since 2019, there are other things that we're working on there in order to continue to pull costs out. And we're also looking at some of our other overhead or indirect functions on how we can become more efficient there. And we think there's continued opportunity for us within the facilities to pull some strings for cost reductions there.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Got it. I have a couple more quick ones, but I'll turn it back in the queue for now, but I can get back on if needed.

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. I think you're good, Tom. Why don't you go ahead?

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Okay. Is the China facilities back to full at this point or --

Warren Veltman

Analyst

That was an interesting development. We actually had in the last two or three days of the quarter, the facility had been operating through disruptions. If you follow what's gone on in Shanghai or the Greater Wuxi region, that was an area where there were outbreaks of COVID where the Chinese government was actually shutting down significant portions of that area, including the ports, which created problems for us securing material during that period of time. But we actually had a close contact in one of our facilities and the Chinese government actually shut our facilities down for two or three days at the end of the quarter and relocated all our employees to hoteling space and quarantined them for five days, then brought them back to the facilities where they were quarantined in the facilities for another five or six days. But it actually allowed us to start production back up. So I would tell you it's more normalized at this point in time, but the government has not changed its stance. I think everybody knows that they have a hard line stance as it relates to the spread of COVID. So it's something that we're watching very closely. And certainly, we're being very diligent about as it relates to our employees or any visitors to our facilities.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

All right. Great. Another separate issue. I wasn't aware it was mentioned, the planned reentry into the medical market. Does that mean you're trying to create a whole another new life sciences segment at some point? Because you have medical business now, small amounts, but what can't you do until the fourth quarter of 2023?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. So we have a noncompete agreement that we signed with the acquirer of our previous Life Sciences group that extends through October of 2023. And so we're not allowed to compete with the types of products that we were making in that group or call on some of those customers. But we are allowed to continue to manufacture the types of products that remain in our business, which is some medical instruments and that type of thing that we supply to a group of what can be long-term strategic customers for us. So our view is that as we get closer to the expiration of that noncompete, it's going to put us in a position that we're going to be able to revisit the opportunities available that are available to us in the medical space and pursue those opportunities. But certainly, we need to ready for that through staffing and some other related activities prior to an entry back into the market and calling on customers. And that's what we're referring to there.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Could the entry be - involve M&A, too, or more just sales-type efforts?

Warren Veltman

Analyst

We think that there's opportunity to expand the nature of what we're doing and use some of the existing core competencies that we have in the business to seek out opportunities for metal machining and other similar types of applications where we already have that capability in-house.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Got it. All right. A couple more financial ones and I'm done. So based on the outlook, the revenue outlook for the year, that would imply, I think, double-digit revenue growth for Q3 and Q4. Is that - my math correct on that?

Mike Felcher

Analyst

From a year-over-year basis?

Tom Kerr

Analyst

Yes.

Mike Felcher

Analyst

I need to look.

Tom Kerr

Analyst

I have another quick one while you're looking that up. The CARES Act tax refund, is that - I mean, any issues that is delaying it? Or any other color you can give on when that can be received or --

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes. Look, I would tell you on that, Tom, it's an extremely frustrating situation on our end. You've read in the Wall Street and other publications that the IRS callback rate on questions is 10%, okay? So we have been extremely diligent, because it's important to us, right, in following up on that. And we've actually several months ago - earlier this year, I should say, we asked our representative to Congress to get involved and find out what the status and see if we could push that along because the whole purpose of that refund was to provide companies some additional liquidity during a very difficult time associated with the pandemic. And here we are in 2022, and we still don't have it. So rest assured that we're doing everything and pulling every string that we possibly can to understand what the status of the situation is and to try and get that expedited. We've recently responded to a request from the IRS for additional information. We turned that around immediately, but we're still on hold with them as it relates to receiving no definitive date on when that's expected to be paid.

Mike Felcher

Analyst

Yes. And to answer your question on sales, yes, they would have - we are expecting year-over-year double-digit growth in the second half. And reminder that Q3 and Q4 last year, particularly in automotive, were depressed given those were the periods most significantly impacted by the semiconductor situation.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Warren Veltman, President and CEO.

Warren Veltman

Analyst

Yes, I'd just like to conclude by thanking everyone for participating in our call today. We appreciate the opportunity to share our activities with the business. Wish you all a good day. Thank you for your time.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.