Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2008 National Fuel Gas Company Earnings Conference Call. My name is Eric, and I'll be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We'll facilitate the question-and-answer session towards the end of the conference. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn your presentation over to your host, Mr. Jim Welch, Director of Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Thank you, Eric and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us on today's conference call for a discussion of last evening's earnings release. With us on the call from National Fuel Gas Company are Dave Smith, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ron Tanski, Treasurer and Principal Financial Officer. Joining us from Seneca Resources Corporation is Matt Cabell, President. At the end of the prepared remarks, we'll open a discussion to questions. We'd like to remind you that today's teleconference will contain forward-looking statements. While National Fuel's expectations, beliefs and projections are made in good faith and are believed to have a reasonable basis, actual results may differ materially. These statements speak only as of the date on which they are made and you may refer to last evening's earnings release for a listing of certain specific risk factors. With that, we'll begin with Dave Smith.

Thank you, Jim and good morning. The past several months have certainly been challenging sometimes for the financial markets. The constant barrage of bad economic news and the dramatic drop in equity share prices including our own, tend to obscure the fact that fiscal 2008 was the best year in National Fuel's 106 year history. On an operating results basis, it was a record year with $3.17 per share of consolidated earnings, up 40% over the prior year. Importantly, the growth in earnings was spread across the system with each of our three major segments posting double-digit increases in earnings. Financially, National Fuel is in excellent shape and large part is a result our diverse asset base and despite the turmoil in the markets, we intent to continue to execute on our integrated business model. Certainly, lower commodity prices and tighter credit market will present challenges to the industry. And as a result, we have reexamined the CapEx budgets in each of our business segments and have made modest adjustments. But unlike many other companies, because of our focus on long-term, sustainable shareholder value, because of the quality and the diversity of our earnings and because of our long standing commitment to fiscal discipline, we do not expect any wholesale changes in our business plans for 2009 and beyond. I should also note that we do not expect any change in our dividend policy, which has seen 106 years of uninterrupted dividend payments and 38 consecutive years of dividend increases. Last night's release provides the details of our earnings for the quarter and for the fiscal year. So I won't repeat them here. Instead, I along with Matt and Ron will review a few of the year's accomplishments and discuss some of our plans for the future. In E&P segment,…

Thanks, Dave. Good morning everyone. Fiscal 2008 was a great year for Seneca. We grew reserves and production, substantially improved our finding and development cost, drilled three new discoveries in the Gulf of Mexico and increased our per well reserves in Appalachia. Fiscal 2009 should be another exciting year as we continued to grow our Appalachian production, bring on our new discoveries in the Gulf of Mexico and increase our activity in the Marcellus Shale. At oil and gas prices of $70 per barrel and $7 per Mcf, we expect to fully fund our drilling and development plans with our internal cash flow. Now let me focus on our results in Appalachia. For fiscal 2008 in our East division, we grew production by 25% and replaced 361% of our production at a finding and development cost of $2.33 per Mcfe. In addition, we continued to increase our per oil reserves such that our average well in fiscal '08 with an EUR of 113 million cubic feet at approximately double the reserves of our average well three years ago. The extensive regional analysis and thorough geologic mapping by our talented exploration and development team are paying off as we continued to develop our assets efficiently and cost effectively. As Dave mentioned, our drilling target for fiscal 2009 is 300 upper Devonian wells with activities somewhat dependent on natural gas prices. In the Marcellus, in partnership with EOG, we've drilled three new horizontal wells with a new purpose build drawing rig. These three wells have lateral lanes in excess of 3,000 feet. And were drilled, but not yet completed at a cost of approximately $2 million each. Due to water usage issues, completion of the first well was delayed several weeks. We are just finishing up the frac job on that well.…

Thanks, Matt and good morning everyone. Since Dave and Matt already covered most of the highlights for the year, I'll be brief so we can get right to your questions. We were quite pleased that our earnings for the quarter and the entire 2008 fiscal year were at the upper end of our guidance range. And looking forward to fiscal 2009, we revised earning's guidance based on flat NYMEX prices of $7 per MMBtu for natural gas and $70 per barrel of oil for our unhedged production. That pricing change had the effect of lowering our 2009 guidance to a range between $2.60 and $2.80 per diluted share. From the perspective of the utility segment, even with those lower commodity prices, winter bills for our customers are still expected to be approximately 10% higher than they were last year. As we head into the heating season, our customer service representatives and field service people are prepared to assist our customers in setting up payment arrangements and any other service needs. With the expected higher gas bills, we will be carefully watching both our accounts receivable and the ability of our low income customers to keep current with their heating bills. One bit of good news is that the level of the federal funding for the home energy assistance program or HEAP has been expanded substantially for this heating season. Another area that's worth reviewing and updating as a preliminary 2009 capital expenditure budgets that I gave out during our August call. As Dave and Matt, said we've gone through all of our spending budgets to make sure that we can live within cash flow if we have to. Here, are our most current budgets for the fiscal year. In the utility segment, capital spending is budgeted at $58 million. For…

Thank you. [Operators Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please proceed.

Hi. Good morning, guys.

Hey Shneur.

Hi Shneur.

Just had a question with respect to the Marcellus, we know performance coming out of a year-to-year is favorable in this year?

Shneur, you are really braking up. We can only one in every four or five words.

Sorry. So, can you hear me better now?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay, great. My comments are with respect to Marcellus, specifically with EOGs talk this favorably as it has for some of its other place. I was wondering if you can comment with respect to your thoughts on the play on being potential horizontal play versus being vertical play and is that potentially a reason why it is attractive to other player like EOG rather than versus you guys and so forth.

You broke up a little there Shneur but I'll respond to the first part of that question, which is we think it's most likely going to be developed as a horizontal play. There maybe areas that lend it South well to a vertical program but I think the majority of the play will be horizontal.

Shneur, the second part of the question, I think I heard most of it seems to suggest that the implication that EOG has moved ahead with other acreage as opposed to our acreage. That implies that our acreage is favorable as the other acreage. And I just don't think that's true. I think in part EOG was just further along in on the acreage that they recently made the announcement with respect to. That's where they took the rig and they were drilling prior to the drilling with the new rig on the acreage in the AMI. Matt that was.

Yeah.

Did that was your question Shneur?

Yes. If I can just follow-up with one other question with respect to your earnings guidance, you took the numbers down and you effectively said it's related to your commodity forecast. Did you adjust any of your cost forecast as a result out there, because I would have anticipated if you take your commodity forecast down the taxes associated with it or the royalties would come down as well too, so just wanted to know if there had been any other adjustments on the cost side?

Yes, the original guidance we put out back in August and there is been a number of things that have changed between then and now. In addition to the commodity sales price, the cost for steaming in California came down substantially and we were also using the $9.50 gas price that we had in the forecast for the steaming cost. We also had more hedges in place as of the end of the fiscal year than we did back in August. There are couple of other minor things, but that gets the bulk of the difference.

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Thanks Shneur.

Your next question comes from the line of with Tim Schneider [ph] Citigroup please proceed.

Hey guys. Just a quick question, on the Gulf of Mexico what kind of commodity prices do you need to put up play to be more economic?

Well I'm not sure I'm fallowing your questions. In other words it's either our results from 2008 are very economic at today's commodity prices.

Yes, but I mean you said your are not going ahead with three other wells just given the marginal economic right now don't make sense. So my question is would you need to commodity prices to get in order for those wells to become more economic, so that you'd actually go ahead with those?

I would had if we had... we have forward strip that would say above 8 box and wells that we pulled out would look pretty good.

Okay.

And it doesn't only relate in a vacuum. I think in part it's an allocation of capital between different division. So that's relevant as well.

Okay. And then the only other question, just kind of a follow-up to your other question, given the recent decline in gas prices, how far is that going to show up in lowered LOE expenses if at all?

Well, as I mentioned substantially, I mean there is about let's say a nickel per share pick-up in earnings related to lower LOE just in the steaming out in California. So that's the primary expense directly related to commodity costs in Seneca's operation.

Okay. That's it for me. Thanks guys.

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Harmon with Barclays. Please proceed.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Good morning, Jim.

Hi, Jim.

First, kudos to Matt for what he has done to me in E&P. I have been following the company for 15 years that was great to see some progress going on to that segment.

Thanks Jim.

And hopefully you'll answer my next two questions. But... what?

I said oh oh.

Now is there two on E&P and one on the forgotten timber. First you said that the average EURs in Appalachia were 113. I was just curious as to what maybe the some of the higher EUR you are seeing and what are you doing differently now in moving towards the higher EURs? Is it a technique? Is it a region that you are concentrating on?

I'd say the part primary difference is more through geologic mapping, which allows us to avoid the lower EUR wells and it also allow us to... because we're looking at more of our acreage with this new mapping, we're able to identify the areas that... where you might have a whole program of 20 wells or so that are significantly better than what we were drilling two or three years ago.

Okay. And maybe an example of some of the higher EURs, I mean could do the basic math, but are you seeing anything in like the 130, 140 range?

Much higher than that. I would say the best wells might be 300.

Okay.

But the overall average is 113.

Okay. And then maybe a follow-up on the Gulf question. What price deck do you need to sustain the economics on the three wells that you are pursuing? And then, as a part to that, what's the timing of the three wells that are currently on the projects play?

One of them is a follow-up to our Cyclops discovery. And that well... we don't really have that much control over the exact timing, but we expect it'll be about six months from now. Another one we have a lot of control over and it will probably be in the summer. So I guess the short answer, Jim would be most of that drilling is later in the fiscal year.

Okay.

And at least two of the three wells look pretty good even with a further fall in oil and gas prices.

Okay. We still have winter ahead of us so anything can happen.

Yes.

On the timber segment, which is I know nearing gear, it looks like you used to get a nickel to a dime earnings and we are tracking a nickel through a dime of losses. And so how do we stem the losses? It looks like you've cut costs. Is that something which you see for the rest of the year?

Yes, Jim, I don't know where you came with the nickel to the dime in losses. We're certainly not forecasting that and no we don't forecast by segment, but we're not forecasting losses in the timber.

Okay. Let me ask it a different way. How you offset the weakness in the product sales?

Well in large part, you cut costs.

Okay.

And we would just be tied way back at the operations of the mills, we just wouldn't cut the timber and processes. So it will just continue to grow off the field.

Yes, one of the mills is I don't know Jim, we've cut back significantly. I think the guys have also done a pretty good job. In part, the last quarter was due to this just high inventory cost associated with obligations they've had on federal lands. I think it was federal estate land to cut timber. So, in part that was kind of an out of the ordinary forward. We will be able to cut back costs significantly.

Okay, great. Thank you.

The next question comes from the line of Mark Caruso with Millennium. Please proceed.

Good morning guys. Just two quick E&P questions; one is, I know you recently just picked up some more acreage in the Marcellus and Lycoming County and you had mentioned that your original wells will go little bit on the water usage, and Pennsylvania is kind of going through re-haul system. Have you guys have to re-file your water usage plans or do you feel you're all set on the permitting side on the Marcellus there?

We have to permit them individually. So, as we developed locations we have to get them permitted. So, I guess the short answer to your question is no we're not all set but yes we're doing everything to get those permits as quickly as possible and we don't anticipate that being an issue for getting the wells that we've got in the fiscal '09 plant drilled.

Got you. And then, in California the governor has talked about maybe increasing taxes in oils and severance tax going up to potentially at 9%. Just want to see, are you guys hearing that and sort of how you would handle that? Would that impact sort of the drilling plans at all or is it still too early to figure out what's going to happen?

Unlikely that it would impact our drilling plans. Most of the things we do in California are very economic even at more modest oil prices. Now, that said some of our capital plans for fiscal '09 could easily be delayed into fiscal 2010 if we found ourselves in a cash flow issue that we want to preserve our cash flow.

Got you, great. Thank you so much.

Your next question comes from the line of John Hampston [ph] with Prestige [ph]. Please proceed.

Good morning.

Hi John.

Good morning.

Just a follow up on the Gulf of Mexico a bit, you've got a new well on; what kind of decline rates do we have on those if it we're might see a year out or something like that just so we can know how kind shape goes?

You're breaking up. I heard a question about decline rate.

Yes. What kind of decline rates do we have there?

Yes, these wells tend to stay at a fairly even plateau for some period of time, but when they get closer to end their life they decline very, very rapidly. So it's really more a function of the reserves in the individual discovery than it is sort of forecasting a decline curve.

Alright. Thank you very much.

Your next question comes from the line David Rewcastle with Argus Research. Please proceed.

Hi. Good morning guys.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Just a quick question, did I hear you say you're new estimates 2009 production be the same as 2008 or is that a regional thing?

Our guidance is the same as it was from fiscal 2008.

Okay. Good, that's it from me.

[Operator Instructions]. It appears we have no more audio questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn the call to Mr. Jim Welch for closing remarks.

Thank you, Eric. We'd like to thank you everyone for taking the time to be with us today. A replay of this call will be available in about one hour on both our website and by telephone and a run through the close of business on Friday, November 14th. To access the replay online, visit our Investor Relations website at investors.nationalfuelgas.com. And to access by telephone, call 1-888-286-8010 and enter passcode 13507417. We'd also like to mention that on Tuesday, November 18th at approximately 12:30 PM Eastern Time, National Field will be making a webcast presentation of year-end financial and operational results that can be accessed through our Investor Relations website. We'll issue a press release to remind everyone of the details of this event. This concludes our conference call for today. Thank you and goodbye.

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