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Mayville Engineering Company, Inc. (MEC)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Mon, May 11, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to Mayville Engineering Company's First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Nathan Elwell, Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Nathan Elwell

Analyst

Thank you. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. A few quick items before we begin. First, please note that some of the information that you will hear during this call will consist of forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. Such statements express our expectations, anticipations, beliefs, estimates, intentions, plans and forecasts. Because these forward-looking statements involve risks, assumptions and uncertainties, our actual results could differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. For more information regarding such risks and uncertainties, and please see our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our filing on Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2019. We assume no obligation and do not intend to update any such forward-looking statements except as required by federal securities laws. Second, this call will involve a discussion of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these measures to the closest GAAP financial measure is included in the earnings press release, which is available at mecinc.com. Joining me on the call today is Bob Kamphuis, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Todd Butz, Chief Financial Officer; and Ryan Raber, Executive Vice President of Strategy, Sales and Marketing. First, Bob will provide an overview of our performance, then Todd will review our financial results and guidance. With that, I'll hand the call over to Bob.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Thank you, Nathan. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2020 earnings call. While the first quarter of 2020 got off to a positive start, and we were on track delivering results in line with our internal expectations through January and February. Of course, March introduced a whole set of new COVID-19 pandemic-related challenges, which impacted our performance. But overall, we generated net sales of $108.6 million and adjusted EBITDA of $11.4 million. These figures also speak to the preparation and adjustments late last year and into this year to continuously realign our cost structure with new demand levels and managing the ongoing production schedule changes from our key customers in the commercial vehicle, construction and agricultural markets. I'm encouraged by the strides that we made to improve our operating performance on a sequential basis despite market demand challenges. We have been able to effectively adjust our cost structure and coupled with a small sequential improvement in demand helped us generate a 700 basis point increase in manufacturing margin from this – in this quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2019. We are also realizing tangible benefits from last year's capital investments in automation and technology, which have already led to stronger labor productivity. I've said this before, but it's especially true now, we are committed to focus our attention on factors within our control. The positive impacts of these investments reinforce our confidence that they will be important to best position MEC for sustained future success. The new challenge for everyone in 2020 is how we navigate the ongoing impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. At MEC, we are used to responding to change. Agility, adaptability and realignment are part of our business culture. This crisis has created a broad sense of uncertainty and complexity for our…

Todd Butz

Analyst

Thanks Bob. I'll begin with a look at our first quarter financial performance before providing commentary on our balance sheet, liquidity and our thoughts on guidance. As noted in our press release, we recorded first quarter net sales of $108.6 million as compared to $143.7 million for the same prior year period, a decline of approximately 24%. This decline was mostly attributed to the continued impact of market demand changes, which began last year and were most evident in the commercial vehicle, agricultural and construction end markets served. In addition, net sales were adversely impacted during late March due to certain customer plant shutdowns caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Manufacturing margins were $11.8 million for the first quarter of 2020 as compared to $19.6 million for the same prior year period. The decline of $7.8 million was mostly driven by lower sales volumes due to the aforementioned market demand changes, the impact of customer shutdowns at the end of March along with inventory and health care reserves, specific to the estimated potential impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. These factors were modestly offset by strong labor productivity improvements, driven by a recent investment in new technologies and automation as well as our cost reduction efforts completed in 2019. Manufacturing margin percentages were 10.9% of net sales for the first quarter of 2020 as compared to 13.6% for the same prior year period. The direct impact of lower net sales to manufacturing margins was approximately 780 basis points, driven largely by under-applied overhead of fixed costs due to the aforementioned declines in market demand and the impacts of COVID-19. This decremental impact was largely offset by strong labor productivity gains created through our investments in new technology and automation, CII improvements and the 2019 cost-cutting measures, which combined, positively impacted manufacturing margins…

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Thank you, Todd. Despite the ongoing market demand, pandemic-related challenges, we are encouraged by the strides that we were able to make during the quarter to continually realign our cost structure and explore new business opportunities. We are confident in the long-term strength of our business model. The combination of our market-leading position, our strong financial footing and our domestic focus will be instrumental in our organization emerging from this situation in a stronger competitive position. Although, the situation is providing new and unique challenges for our team, MEC's long-standing track record of agility, adaptability in providing service, value and reliability to our customers has enabled us to navigate all manner of difficult situations during our 75 years of operation. We will weather this storm as we have all the others. We take pride in our business being considered essential, and we stand ready to help our customers in any way that we can in the months ahead. Our team is thinking about all of our stakeholders and shareholders during these difficult times. We are all in this together, and we will stay strong and get through the short-term adversity. With that said, we'd like to open the call for questions. Operator, please go ahead.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Mig Dobre with R.W. Baird. Please proceed.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

Hey good morning, guys. It's Joe Grabowski on for Mig this morning.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Good morning.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

I guess my first question is probably on everyone's mind. Can you tell us how April trended, sales, order intake? Any color you can give us on April?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Sure. I can tell you that with the employee or customer shutdowns that have gone on, especially significant in the month of April and some bleeding into May, we saw probably less than half of our capacity being utilized by our customers. So it was a tough month. It will be I think the worst month that we will see. But nonetheless, we weathered through it quite well. We did the layoffs, furloughs, vacation, all types of cost-conserving measures, certainly in the supply side, the indirect spending that goes into a business. We've watched our pennies very closely here. And, I think, we'll wind up doing okay in the month of April.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

I believe you said in fourth quarter that your overall utilization was around 70%. So is that kind of the way to think about it, if fourth quarter was 70% and April was less than 50%?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

I would put that the April number probably at more in the 40% range.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

Okay. All right. That's helpful. And then sort of a related question. I know normally, you guys have several months of visibility into production schedules from your customers. Has that changed in the current situation? Has sort of the visibility into your customers' production schedules been truncated just maybe based on their lack of visibility or plant shutdowns or anything?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

No, I guess, the right way to answer that is our visibility is still the same, and it's long and it's good. The problem is that things are changing very rapidly. So the tool is still there. The tool is still being utilized, but data is changing from our customers very rapidly.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

No, that makes sense. It's certainly an unusual time right now. And I guess, just my final question, you guys compete against a lot of small fabricators. Are you hearing anything about maybe some of your smaller competitors having financial difficulties? Or maybe kind of when we come out on the other end of this, so there'll be consolidation, market share opportunities, anything along those lines?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Yes. It's probably a little too early to predict that. However, we do believe that with the additional support that the government has given to small businesses, they probably extended their life by a short period of time. We still think that we will see that shakeout happening. But with the benefits coming from the federal government, that's probably been delayed by a little bit. But we're seeing edges of that happening.

Joe Grabowski

Analyst

Got it. Okay, thanks for taking my questions. Good luck.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

You’re welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Stephen Volkmann with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Great. Good morning, guys.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Good morning, Steve.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Bob, can you help me just triangulate this right so that we don't get too far off in one direction or another. You're talking about kind of running things, maybe 40% of capacity in April. What would that have been in the first quarter or fourth quarter, just some sort of way to start to judge that?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Yes. I think first quarter probably would be in the 60-ish range.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

That's great. And then a lot of your customers that we cover are talking about things kind of starting to ramp up as we speak here. Do you see that kind of instantly or would there be a couple weeks of a lag because there's some inventory work in process or something?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

What we are seeing is even though some of them are starting up there, ramping up during the first weeks, and I still think that perhaps there's some supply disruption from others that they're dealing with. So as they're opening up, they're dealing with a lot of smaller issues, they're not jumping right up to the former volume levels.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Right. Okay. And then maybe this is more of a Todd question, but you've talked about a number of different cost-saving measures that you've done. Just how should we think about the decremental margin on the lower production in the second quarter?

Todd Butz

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

So when you look at decremental margins and you strip out some of the impact of volume, we're actually seeing some – historically, I'd say that, that number was 17.5%. We're seeing actually that decremental margin be a little bit lower in a normalized situation because of all the cost-saving measures. But the second quarter will be the one that's a bit unique being that, as Bob stated, April kind of low water point, meaning that a lot of our customers are shut down, we're at 40% capacity, and we've done layoffs and other cost-preventative measures. I would put that probably more in that maybe 20% to 22% range for the second quarter. But as you look at decremental going forward, I do believe because of the cost structures we've already made and more on the way, as we kind of work our way through this, I think we'll see a better decremental margin going forward.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Okay. Good. That's helpful. And then just one final quick one more broadly. Bob, have you seen people come to you over the last, say, few weeks and say, we need another source of supply or we need a closer source of supply? Are those conversations actually happening already?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Yes. I'm going to let Ryan Raber answer that. He works with that every day.

Ryan Raber

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Hey, Steve, we definitely have seen that. I think it started probably about a month ago, filtering kind of the issues that were happening in specifically China and India. So we did fill some short-term voids when, let's say, material was delayed on the water kind of pre-OEM shutdown that allowed us to kind of supplement their demand. But in the recent times, we've seen not only, I'll say, the reshoring type activities of the potential to shorten that extended supply chain, but also as OEMs ramp back up, as Bob alluded to, we don't feel like we've seen the full effects of what that might be doing to some of the small competitors we have. So it's – the quote flow and the quote activity for us has been stronger, I'll call it, in the last six weeks than we had going back into January and February and even into fourth quarter.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.

Great. That’s great. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup. Please proceed.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Hey, good morning guys. It's [indiscernible] on for Andy today. How are you?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Good morning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

So lots of good color on how things are evolving. I guess, one thing we've heard from some of the industrial companies and sort of hearing from you in terms of reramping when the time is right and making sure their supply chains are ready and able to handle that. So given that focus that the OEMs have, how is the nature of your conversations with your customers changed over the past few months? And given the changes they're seeing and their low visibility that has impacts on you, what information are they giving you? And what can you do to be prepared or return to, call it, normalizing production over time?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Sure. Well, we've been getting updates continuously, including plant shutdowns that are happening quickly or ramp-ups that they would like to – they're typically telegraphing the ramp-ups with more time, lead time. We have an excellent communication program we've set up internally here for our people, some of whom are on furlough. And when it ramps up, they know that to watch the board at our intranet at MEC to see what's happening and whether they need to report to work very quickly. So we're using our internal communication to be really effective. I guess any points, Ryan, that you'd want to add around change?

Ryan Raber

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Yes. So we are in continuous communication with our customers, and that can be over e-mail, I would say, for the most part, at least a weekly touch point at a leadership level. Obviously, looking at things like hard shutdowns, but as importantly now, what is the ramp-up plan when they return to work. So they've been pretty transparent about build rates, kind of pre-COVID, post-COVID. We're, as Bob said, really reviewing that on a daily basis amongst the sales and operations teams and adjusting the workforce and capacity accordingly. It tends to be a pretty dynamic situation right now. There's potential for supply chain constraints that many of the OEMs talk about that we're keeping a watchful eye on at this point. We have not caused any problems and in many cases, have been able to, I'll say, bail them out in some emergency situations with our prototype capability, but that's sometimes daily hourly conversation that we're having.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

We're really exercising our agility story internally. Our production planning process, our communication with our shop floor, with our supply base, it's been showing all the strengths that we hoped it would.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

That's great to hear. It sounds like your customers are well served. I guess just thinking about cash flow. I know you're not providing guidance at this point, but can you give us some color on just how you're thinking about free cash flow conversion in this environment? I think – previously, I think you talked about a 50% plus conversion of adjusted EBITDA as your free cash conversion target. So directionally, how should we be thinking about free cash conversion, just given all the moving pieces here?

Todd Butz

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Well, when you look at the free cash flow conversion, I really do not expect to see much change off of that 50% utilization. And the reason being is as these changes happen, certainly, receivables come down. We've done furloughs, which is a cash favorable impact on our payrolls. We're able to pull back on the capital. As Bob mentioned on the call, it's really – we're taking all extra scrutiny as to when we spend capital. So we're able to preserve that cash flow and really should represent, again, all 50% or better of EBITDA for the full year. So I think all the levers are in place for us to continue to execute very well. Certainly, the amount of free cash flow will be diminished by the decline in our EBITDA.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

That’s great. That’s helpful. Thanks guys. I’ll get back in queue.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Citigroup. Please proceed.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jon Braatz with Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Jon Braatz

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Good morning, everyone.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Good morning, Jon.

Jon Braatz

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Bob, a question. You've talked a little bit about furloughs and layoffs. And obviously, you're continuing to spend money on automation and so on. When things return to normal, hopefully, return to normal soon. But how would the level of workforce – level of your workforce be compared to maybe where you were last year? Are you going to be able to come out of this COVID-19 with fewer employees, fewer people on the manufacturing line?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Yes. That's why we invested in the automation and we're seeing the benefits we expected, including the benefits of, I'll say, taking up a smaller footprint, allowing even more throughput in our factories with less floor space utilization. So that raises some interesting things, considerations to look at for even further opportunities.

Jon Braatz

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Okay. Any number you want to – you could provide us with how much you might think the employment roles might be down or is that too soon to?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

I think it's too soon to say that. But that's one of the reasons that we invest.

Jon Braatz

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

Yes, sure. Okay, Bob. Thank you much.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst · Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.

You’re welcome, Jon.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from James Maxwell of Tocqueville. Please proceed.

James Maxwell

Analyst

Good morning.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Hi, James.

Todd Butz

Analyst

Good morning.

James Maxwell

Analyst

Question about the working capital. I guess I was surprised to see such a use of working capital in the first quarter and I'm wondering whether you can get that back in the second quarter and whether the cash flow will be stronger in the second quarter because of that?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Yes. So certainly, I mean, the first quarter was really driven by receivables. Sales increasing from the fourth quarter of last year. And as you look in the second quarter, I would expect to see the positive inflow from the receivables balances. Certainly, we'll see a little decline when you think of accounts payable because purchasing and things of that nature are going to decline. But in general, we should see a very favorable cash conversion here in the second quarter because of all those factors put together, coupled with all the cost-saving measures we put into place.

James Maxwell

Analyst

Okay, great. And I just wanted to make sure, it sounded like maybe M&A activity was ongoing, yet the share repurchase had been suspended. Is – I would think, obviously, with the share price so low, the return would be better on the repurchasing your own shares than making acquisitions.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Sure. Well, let me address that in a minute. I guess on the repurchase of shares, we have about 30% of our shares in the float, right, 20% to 30%. So we don't want to reduce that float by much. The rest of it is in the 401(k), where our employees can buy or sell and then portion locked up in the ESOP yet. So we're kind of taking a careful approach to that. It doesn't mean we won't do any, but we also want to preserve our cash to see if there's better returns out there and comparing those returns to some of our internal investment returns as one of the previous questioners asked about those returns. We see very good returns on that capital spending as well, especially with automation. So we're trying to measure all of those things, including, I'll call it, opportunities that nice bolt-on small acquisitions might have in this period of time. So it's trying to balance all of that. But I would say we're looking at all of it, but we're not looking at doing nothing on any of it. So a little bit of everything.

James Maxwell

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, is there any more detail you can provide on the blue chip customer, how potentially large this customer could become or what they do, what industry they're in?

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Sure. Ryan, do you want to answer that?

Ryan Raber

Analyst

Yes. I mean, we've got quite a few new opportunities that are in the works, and I'll say, definitely more than one outside of the traditional markets that we would publish. So one of the benefits of the agile capacity and assets we have is they're not dedicated to a given market. So things like the packaging and warehouse management that we talked about, obviously, we think the current pandemic probably drives additional online ordering and other things that will drive that into the future. We've had some health care opportunities that we've been able to secure in recent time and in the topic kind of reshoring, there are folks that are reevaluating in those extended supply chains as they come from the Asia market, kind of going back originally, if you think about the impacts of the tariffs of last year, now we roll into this pandemic. There's been a lot of stress introduced into that space where, I think, folks are finally kind of coming to grips that they like the domestic supply chain, the improvement in lead time and having somebody in their backyard is certainly a benefit. So it's been a strong first quarter and really a strong past six weeks here on the quote flow and new customer, new industry opportunities.

James Maxwell

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we are showing no further questioners in the queue, and this ends our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Bob Kamphuis, Chairman, President and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Bob Kamphuis

Analyst

Okay. Well, I'll just close by saying thank you all for your time today. We look forward to updating you on our progress in the months ahead. Everybody stay healthy and safe, and thanks for following MEC.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.