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Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 17, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Marcus Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. My name is Chris and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Joining us today are Greg Marcus, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Doug Neis, Chief Financial Officer of the Marcus Corporation. At this time, I'd turn the program over to Mr. Neis for his opening remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

Doug Neis

Analyst

Thank you and welcome everybody to our fiscal 2016 first quarter conference call. As usual, you know I need to begin by stating that we plan on making a number of forward-looking statements on our call today. The forward-looking statements could include, but not be limited to statements about our future revenues and earnings expectations, our future RevPAR, occupancy rates and room rate expectations for our Hotels & Resorts division, our expectations about the quality, quantity and audience appeal of film products expected to be made available to us in the future, our expectations about the future trends in the business group and leisure travel industry and in our markets, our expectations and plans regarding growth in the number and type of our properties and facilities, expectations regarding various non-operating line items on our earnings statement and our expectations regarding future capital expenditures. Of course, our actual results could differ materially from those projected or suggested by our forward-looking statements. Factors, risks, and uncertainties which can impact our ability to achieve our expectations are included in the Risk Factor Section of our 10-K and 10-Q filings, which can be obtained from the SEC or the Company. We'll also post our Regulation G disclosures when applicable on our website at www.marcuscorp.com. So with that behind us, let's talk about our fiscal 2016 first quarter. I'm sure by now you would have -- you’ve read the word record multiple times in our press release, it was a very good quarter for us. Obviously, we had a much improved film slate compared to last summer, but once again we took it several steps further reporting our seventh straight quarter where our theatre division significantly outperformed the industry, and improvements from our hotels and resorts division contributed to our great results this quarter as…

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Thanks, Doug. I will begin my remarks today with our theatre division. We're obviously thrilled to be reporting another record quarter for this division, once again significantly outperforming the industry. I must admit that putting my prepared remarks together has been pretty easy lately as I keep on saying the same thing. Clearly, the investments we're making in our theatres are making a difference and when you combine those investments with our innovative marketing and pricing initiatives, along with our loyalty program that is now up to over 1.25 million members and counting, the result is record-breaking performance for our theatres. And while there is no question that our DreamLounger recliner seat locations have been key contributors to these great results. We currently offer this amenity in 30% of our first-run screens. I will tell you that during the first quarter, nearly 60% of our company-owned first-run theatres outperformed the national box office. Part of that is because our $5 Tuesday program continued to be a contributor to our stellar results With Tuesdays this year outperforming comparable Tuesdays last year during the same quarter, even after adjusting for the national box office increases resulting from the improved film slate, combine that with all the other amenities we've been adding and you have a recipe for success. Typical for summer movie season, our box office revenues were heavily dependent upon so-called blockbuster films, even more so than usual during our fiscal 2016 first quarter. As evidence of this, I will note the top-five films listed in our press release accounted for approximately 50% of our total box office revenues this quarter. Last year, our top-five first quarter films only accounted for 36% of total box office revenues. In fact, our top three films, Jurassic World, Inside Out, and Minions all performed…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] First question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research. You may proceed.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Thanks. Wondering, following up on the film rental margin comment you had made, essentially you have a different sort of overlap vis-à-vis the rest of the industry in terms of the timing of films. Do you have any expectations you’d like to share in terms of the new quarter, vis-à-vis the last quarter? Will you have the same pressure on margins or do you think with some of the big films in the current quarter or do you think it will be a little less pressure?

Greg Marcus

Analyst

So, Jim, just to clarify, you’re talking about our upcoming second quarter, just wanted to clear about the question?

Jim Goss

Analyst

Yes. The second quarter versus the first quarter, where you saw some of the same pressures on film rental costs and margins that the rest of the industry had, but your --the match up vis-à-vis the films is a little bit different. You had a 10.1% industry comp that you exceeded and that’s the environment for your film rental margin issue. I’m just wondering how you’re seeing the current quarter in that regard.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Jim, I can’t tell you that I know what’s going to happen. My crystal ball, I don’t know. I don’t have any particular reason to think that it’s going to be as hit laden as the summer was and it is concentrated as the summer was, but you never know all these things, but I don’t think in this quarter, we’re going to see as much of that but I just don’t know. I will say that regardless, kudos to our team, they’ve worked hard to manage our film costs and well yes, ours are up. I would say that we are not leading the industry enough.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Okay. Also, you had the seventh consecutive quarter of above industry gains, which I think you’re running out of strength a little beyond what I think even you seem to be expecting. Do you have a lot of emphasis for continuing outperformance or do you think that gain -- relative gain might narrow little bit coming up?

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Well Jim, I’m not going to give you a number, but absolutely I’ll tell you that our team and to the extent they’re listening in right now, they’re shaking their heads right now saying yes, we’re going to continue to outperform, that’s their goal, that’s what they intend to do, and look we’ve made quite a few investments in the last fiscal year including a brand new theater, right that and so we’ve got -- we didn’t make those investments with an expectation of not getting a return on that. We expect to get a return. So, I certainly see no reason why they can’t continue to outperform, that’s their goal, 6.5 points this time is a little bit less than what it was at the – couple of earlier quarters, but it’s still very significant.

Jim Goss

Analyst

It’s exceptional actually. Maybe -- and just a couple of quick things on the hotel side, first with the AC conversion, do you have any other potential conversions anywhere in your palette of hotels that where such conversions might be made either under their brand or another similar type of brand?

Greg Marcus

Analyst

In the next few years, there is only one where there is a license coming up that I can think of off the top of my head.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Okay.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

And relating to our existing portfolio, Jim, so answering specifically to your question, there is maybe only one hotel that could potentially have a license change or brand change. Having said that, specifically to AC, I will tell you that we are, I mean, we are -- I think we’re the fourth AC [Technical Difficulty] in the country and part of our growth strategy could include looking for some other conversions elsewhere or other properties in the -- round out throughout the US. So I think the AC brand itself, we’re on the front end of that and so that could be a potential growth vehicle for us, but I’m not sure, you said conversion, that’s why I wanted to clarify. So...

Jim Goss

Analyst

Okay. And the last thing and I’ll move on, I might have brought this up for last call, but are there REIT partnerships you might be able to forge such that they’re taking the appropriate risk and you’re taking the management risk or is that something you’re continuing to pursue with the new efforts you’re making on the hotel side?

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Yeah. REITs are natural partners for us, and in fact, the -- our Atlanta property is actually owned by a non-listed REIT. So yes, actually they’re natural for us and we will continue to pursue those opportunities.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Alright. Thanks so much.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mike Hickey with The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Mike Hickey

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Hey, guys. Great quarter. Just curious about in theater security, we’re seeing at least one of your competitors take extra measures to try to help provide a safe environment on the perception of a safe environment, curious your guys’ consideration on potentially taking actions on in-theater security. Thank you.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Yeah. Theater security is obviously of fair amount of importance to us and it’s something that we constantly review and are thoughtful about. As it relates to what our competitor did, we -- that was a policy that we had already had in place. We do not allow backpacks in our theaters and it’s -- for some reason, you can’t take it -- return it, we’ll have to search the backpack. So we had that policy in place already, but we constantly review our standards and our security situations and it’s our goal to make sure that we are at industry standard.

Mike Hickey

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Okay. Fair enough. And the last one, I was hoping you could sort of update us on your installations ending Q1 for DreamLounger, your Big Screen Bistros, Take Fives, I didn’t know if there was any meaningful update to the quarter, I didn’t hear that in your prepared remarks or statement?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Yeah. Mike, while we’re finishing up some projects, the reality is that the summer is the time period when we try very hard to not have a lot of disruption going on at our theaters. So we spend most of this summer preparing for some of the next wave that we’ve talked about in our last call and it’s enlisted in our 10-K. So we actually have now -- we’ve got a couple of projects that are now underway and we have a little disruption, not so much that you will probably notice, but we’ve got I know the theater right now that has five auditoriums out of commission as we're working on it. So that’s kind of going on now and – but nothing dramatic in the first quarter other than finishing up the products that we had previously announced.

Mike Hickey

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Okay, guys, thank you very much. Good luck.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. You may proceed.

Thanks, Mike

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of David Loeb with Baird. You may proceed.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Good morning, gentlemen.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Hey, David.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Hello. Just a couple. Greg, you alluded to supply in your markets that you watch that. Can you just give an update on what you're seeing and what impact it's having? Milwaukee clearly has had a lot, but are there other markets that have new supply coming that concern you?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

David, I am concerned about everything, you know that. Look, we continue to see the same dynamic that we are seeing really and I can almost – it’s almost really in all of our markets. It’s like we call the ankle biters, now these sort of 100, the key limited service or full service that are – they are parading around, they are masquerading these full service hotels, but they have got very limited in their feature set. They come in, they are very efficient and they just add to pressure in the market. Nothing has been overly dramatic. But we feel them than we have felt them at times and I think that's – I don’t think it’s a dynamic that's unique to us.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Yes. And Milwaukee, is that feeling more stable these days or are you just feeling some of that impact from the ankle biters in that market.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

I would say that Milwaukee has for us, I mean – again it can be little rocky, I think the Milwaukee compared to national has been muted overall. We know that. That's been going on for a long time and that's because I think of the increased supply. But for us we've been able to manage pretty well because as we’ve about on previous calls we have invested in our assets and we -- that's why we continue to win and outperform compared to our comps at general. Again, we will bump into times if Milwaukee slows down we feel it.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Yes. And then capital allocation more broadly, you have proceeds coming in from Kansas City. You have a lot of capacity for investment anyway on the balance sheet. What are your thoughts on the opportunity set out there and particularly relative to your cost of capital where do you see the most likelihood of finding investment opportunity?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

It’s an interesting question. The most likely place that we are going to put significant capital, there is going to be capital, but we are going to put capital into our assets. I will start there. That’s for sure going to happen in both our divisions. We are going to put capital into our hotel division in terms of looking for management contracts we talk about, but that's really a smaller need for capital as it relates to the ability to add properties to the portfolio unless we saw again a great opportunity we're not going to, but that's not our focus right this second. Theatres is the most likely place to put big slugs of capital, but the opportunities in theatres are tough to predict. That is not as robust a trading market as the hotel trading market is. And especially you start to move down in size, they tend to be family-owned businesses and the families like the business. You said it’s – one of those businesses that day to day you don’t know where it’s going, but over time it’s a relatively stable business and it’s a nice business. And that’s appealing to people who have been in it a while because they can deal with the volatility.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

In terms of the geographic focus of your theatre circuit, you’ve succeeded in markets that are fairly close to your home market. But I guess you’ve been looking nationally basically continuously. Do you think that you are more likely to find success in the mid-west or do you think that there could be opportunities in other regions as well?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

We think there will be opportunities in other regions.

David Loeb

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Okay, great. That’s all I had for today. Thanks.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed.

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brian Rafn with Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Good morning, guys.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Hi, Brian.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Give me a sense, the elasticity of your Tuesday $5 guy or gal, your penetration into sales from food and beverage?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

So clarify that for me, Brian.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yeah, again, my question about the guy that’s sneaking in the jelly bean or the [indiscernible] for the $5 Tuesday, are you seeing more from the behavior of that customer as you have guys have done a great job, ticket sales in traffic, what – are you getting a little more penetration of food and beverage sales from a guy who is or maybe perhaps a little more elastic, little more value conscious on that Tuesday night?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Somewhat. You’re correct, that a Tuesday night customer does --to make a generality, it tends to be more value conscious than a Saturday night customer. But – and then you have to keep in mind again, we continue to operate free small popcorn to our loyalty club members and so that by definition will drive a lower per capita on a Tuesday night. Having said that, if you have been to one of our theaters on a Tuesday night, it’s pretty crazy. And so a key element for us on Tuesday night in order to maximize our concession in food and beverage revenues is, as you said, you actually alluded to it, managing people and getting people through lines and making sure there is a sign as stated in our show times and things along those lines just to be able to handle a large quantity of people. So our team does an excellent job with that and so…

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

But their focus – and exactly what Doug was talking about, and that is where the opportunity lies on Tuesday. The opportunity lies on getting more people to buy concessions because we have driven such big crowds into those theaters. And they are really focused on it, and I have no doubt they are going to be successful at it. But that’s not in getting the average person to spend a little more, there is some of that and we want more of that, but the real opportunity is getting more people to be able to spend.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Okay, I got you. I think that’s fair. Good way of putting it. You guys without making some predictions on movie slate, how do you guys see year-over-year the fall schedule coming out relative – I am thinking of the new James Bond movie and that, how do you see that – you guys I think looked at the summer as without the summer blockbuster and the family pictures last year in 2014. But you thought 2015 would be a pretty good slate. Do you have any sense of the fall slate versus fall of last year?

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

You know, Brian, it’s again – so now you’re going to – I am going to go ahead and answer your question any ways, but then you’re now asking me to – asking us to somehow look at crystal ball and suggest how art is going to perform. But as we said in the prepared remarks, on paper, we are excited. I mean, we think that the remaining slates for this fall, within our core ends on Thanksgiving Thursday, the slate looks very strong on paper, and there seems to be a fair amount of buzz for some of the pictures that are coming up, never mind November, the pictures that are coming up here in late September and in early October with Maze Runner and Everest and interestingly enough, picture like Everest is being released to a premium large format screens week early so that will be -- and so that certainly have been an emphasis of ours and so we are excited about that opportunity. And there is a lot of buzz about The Martian and I can go on and on. You mentioned the Bond picture, but we listed a bunch of them in our press release and then of course the quarter concludes with the final installment of the Hunger Games series. So on paper, Brian…

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

No more operating than the [ph] theater film buyer.

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yeah, exactly.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Wow, the films look great. You know what, the best message Brian is, it’s not a quarter-to-quarter business, yeah, next quarter could be fantastic.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

No, I think that’s fair.

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

It’s a stable business over time, that’s the message.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yes. You guys – you mentioned it a little bit, Doug, are you seeing Hollywood do a better job in spreading these movies out across the year? I certainly have noticed it in the January-February period. But do you think that’s an ongoing event?

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yeah, we seem to think, we seem to see that happening. Yeah. They’re getting more in January, getting into Spring, getting to fall, yeah, they seem to be seeing the opportunities. They were surprised that there are audiences, Sniper last January, there is an audience in January, you see these and they are taking advantage of.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yeah, with your markets reward, did you guys go out and you have selectively market that you guys talked about for the first time. Are you able to measure behavioral differences, maybe the guy that saw, went out was a diehard Bruce Willis fan or whatever, when you go out and ping these people that are you starting to measure changes, and attendance or people that come back in or you’re actually influencing future things with the markets’ rewards card?

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Absolutely, we do see that we’re just building a database so we’re just on the front end of that but we’re seeing and we’ll leave an AV test so we’ll take a group and will give a small group a message maybe geared you were, as you said, a diehard fan then we won't send it to similar group and we'll see if we're generating an incremental business so that we know that what we’re doing is working.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Yeah okay. And with some of your large, you talked about the Dream Lounge or ultra-screens at Dolby Atmos, the sound systems. Are you seeing -- I've asked this to you offline Doug before, some of the different non-movie venues the Broadway movies, maybe holiday seasons, is there any penetration in that activity across your auditoriums, more of the non-theatre type stuff, then niche stuff?

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Well, we're showing more of it Brian and so from that perspective that's personally very encouraging is that -- that there continues to be kind of an increase in that type of content and it’s an hit and miss, some of the stuff does very -- some of it does pretty well, some of it is not going to connect, what you didn't mention and I'll feed off of your last question as well as it relates to the royalty program but we’ve talked about this is the series, the special series promotions that we’ve been running have also been quite interesting and quite successful where we will be able to bring back some classic films and show them and be able to and the only way -- we never could tell people about it in the past or there is no effective way of marketing to that and now with our loyalty program, we now have a way to be able to do that and so where our guys think that there is kind of scrap in the surface of that and you will continue to see some more series along those lines and it could help fill in quiet periods, it can help fill in some slow periods in the theatres whether it's a Saturday or Sunday morning or whether it's a Monday night or something along those lines and so, I see that as a real opportunity.

Greg Marcus

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Just to build on that, just to see if you understand what we’re talking about and it’s one of these things that’s really been building over time and I think we'll continue to build and we've talked about it but right now, in our theatres you can -- last night you could have gone and seen Godfather II, which was pretty cool, it’s part of a retro series, we're doing as a mafia series, we had Godfather I last week, next week it’s Scarface and after that its Casino. You know seeing great movies and that was on -- potentially made sure we can film with some business, you have a ladies night series, you have an October fright night series. We have a classic movie series, there is all these -- I think over time it’s going to be a real, it’s going to take time for people to understand that we are known for series and that's a great effective marketing because when we're marketing a series, we’re not having to market one event one night, I'm telling about the mafia series that covers eight nights. We can talk about much -- to a base about a much bigger group of things and as we become known for it, it's one of those things where you have to make an investment, an investment in time and resources because we see it every day, the average customer not so much and so they have to start to learn and it becomes habitual for them as well. I think it’s going to be -- I think it will be powerful.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

And then just one, you talked a little bit about top five movies in that, I'm just wondering the depth of the movie slate, say the top 20 or so, how was that some of the backend from say six to 20, summer of ‘15 versus ‘14?

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Well again, because of the fact that you have such a strong top three, that certainly made a difference. So the top 15 films were as a percentage of higher than the top 15 films last year but not as dramatic as that 50 to 36 that we shared in the prepared remarks. So it was -- there is no question that this summer had a strong, was more top-heavy than maybe you would typically see.

Brian Rafn

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Okay, done a superb job guys, you guys are doing a bang up job thanks.

Doug Neis

Analyst · Morgan Dempsey. You may proceed.

Thank you Brian

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research. You may proceed.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Hi thanks. The discussion you just had about the classic film series I think is very interesting, and I know you have been pursuing this. I'm wondering what the studio split looks like when you tried to give them a second shot at some of the library content effectively? Will they give you a better break than they would on the new series and if you can comment it all on any other alternative content efforts you’ve made and maybe what sort of percent of revenues you’re getting at this stage and what you think you can fairly target in terms of alternative content since the theaters are mainly vacant during the time you’re probably running these series anyway, so, it’s got to be incrementally better for you?

Doug Neis

Analyst

Yeah. So, Jim, we’re obviously not going to disclose any specific deals we have in the studios but the short answer to your first question is, yes, that when we’re bringing back some of these pictures whether it’s a Disney series or this Mafia series or whatever might be, we will work a deal with the studio and it’s not at splits that you would see in a first run picture. So, sure, that absolutely is a favorable component of running such a series. And you also know, I’m not going to give you a very satisfying answer to the second part of your question, because as you know, we play that fairly close but that’s in terms of some of those percentages. We are seeing -- because of the success with some of these series and things like that, we are seeing our percentage increase but we haven’t disclosed the -- on a percentage of our business basis, we haven’t disclosed that. But it’s -- yeah, I mean, Greg is still holding his fingers close together, you’ve heard me say this to you before Jim is that it’s still small, right? I mean, we’re not talking about percent -- a very high percentage overall. It can’t compare to Jurassic World and Hunger Games and Star Wars.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Yeah, it’s found money for us.

Doug Neis

Analyst

In a way because again, to your point Jim, it’s when the theaters aren’t as busy and so, it’s -- for us, I think it’s going to be very important and it’s an investment that we all want to make in doing this to continuing to build on it as it ever going to be the biggest piece of our item, I don’t think so, I don’t know, but it is important because as you know, with big fixed assets and it’s every dollar we can bring in above it has great marginal impact to us.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Small is better than zero for sure.

Doug Neis

Analyst

You got it.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Well said.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Do you ever think you’ll make any headway in getting sports rights or anything like that or concert rights on a sold-out concert or things like that because I think with PCDC, the entire country can be linked together basically in the digital format? So, you have a lot of opportunity with keeping the rights for the programs.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

I think again, it’s marginal, I think, but if we can and I think there will -- with time that will change. The whole world of linear television is just shifting so fast right now. So now, that being said, as you pointed, with that happening, the value of sports rights have become -- have gone up to the roof. So, I don’t know where it’s going. I think you’ll see more of it and time will tell.

Jim Goss

Analyst

All right, thanks. Thanks for taking it second time.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Operator

And we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Doug Neis for any closing remarks.

Greg Marcus

Analyst

Before Doug does his closing remarks, I do want to take one moment and just make a point because our first quarter is as you all know, it is the busiest time of the year for everyone in our Company and it is -- and as you could tell from these results, we’ve been happy and people have been working really hard. So, I just want to take a minute to thank everybody out in the field for all their hard work and in this office, people have been working very hard and you’re seeing the results of all the hard work and I just want to say thanks to everybody.

Doug Neis

Analyst

So, with that, I’ll also want to thank you for joining us again today. Maybe, we’ll see some of you at our upcoming annual meeting on Tuesday, October 13, at our InterContinental Milwaukee hotel. For those of you who cannot attend, we’ll be webcasting the meeting. We’ll also look forward talking to you once again in December when we release our fiscal 2016 second quarter results. Until then, thank you, and have a great day.