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Main Street Capital Corporation (MAIN)

Q2 2013 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 9, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Main Street Capital Corporation Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] This conference is being recorded today, August 9, 2013. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Ben Burnham. Please go ahead, sir.

Ben Burnham

Analyst

Thank you, Richard, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us for the Main Street Capital Corporations Second Quarter 2013 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today on the call are Chairman, President and CEO, Vince Foster; and Chief Financial Officer, Dwayne Hyzak. Main Street issued a press release yesterday afternoon that detailed the company's quarterly financial and operating results. This document is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.mainstcapital.com. If you would like to be added to the company's email list to receive press releases, please call Dennard-Lascar Associates at (713) 529-6600. A replay of today's call will be available beginning about an hour after the completion of the call, and will remain available until August 16. Information on how to access the replay is included in yesterday's press release. We also advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through an Internet webcast that can be accessed on the company's web page. Please note that information on this call speaks only as of today, August 9, 2013, and therefore, you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening. Our conference call today will contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may and similar expressions. These statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions and projections as of the date of this call and they are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from these results as a result of risks, uncertainties and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the company's website or at www.sec.gov. Main Street assumes no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including distributable net investment income and distributable net realized income. Please refer to yesterday's press release, which can be found on the company's website, for reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Vince.

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Thanks, Ben, and thank you all for joining us today. I will comment on the performance of our investment portfolio, discuss our recent dividend announcements and our dividend outlook, highlight our origination activity and conclude by commenting on the current investing environment in our markets. Following my comments, Dwayne will cover our portfolio performance in more detail and comment on our second quarter financial results, our current liquidity position and certain key portfolio statistics. After which, we will take your questions. Earlier this week, we announced that John Jackson had joined our board as an Independent Director, and we feel fortunate for being able to attract and accomplished executive of his caliber to our board. We also announced the concurrent retirement of Todd Reppert from our board. While no longer serving as a director, Todd will continue to manage our SBIC subsidiaries with me, while he also launches a new private investment initiative, with which we fully expect to be involved. We've been extremely fortunate to have benefited from Todd's board service over the last 6 years and look forward to our continued close association. Our investment portfolio delivered a high level of performance during the second quarter. Our lower middle market investments appreciated during the quarter by $9 million on a net basis, with 21 of our investments appreciating during the quarter and 4 depreciating. Our middle-market private loan and other investments depreciated by $1.2 million during the quarter. We finished the quarter with a net asset value per share of $18.72, a sequential increase of $0.17 a share over the last quarter. Our lower middle-market companies ended the quarter with $120 million in cash on their balance sheets and continued to exhibit very conservative leverage and debt service coverage ratios. We are pleased to report that we recently…

Dwayne Louis Hyzak

Analyst

Thanks, Vince. We're pleased to report another strong quarter, with results consistent with our long-term goals of generating sustainable growth and recurring income to support our dividends and continued appreciation of our net asset value per share. For the second quarter, our total investment income increased by 33% over the same period in 2012 to $27.8 million. This increase was primarily driven by a $6.4 million increase in interest income, associated with higher levels of portfolio debt investments and a $1 million increase in dividend income from portfolio equity investments. Second quarter 2013 operating expenses, excluding noncash share-based compensation expense, increased by $2 million over the second quarter of 2012 to a total of $9.4 million. The operating expense increase included a $1.4 million increase in interest expense resulting primarily from our issuance of $92 million of 10-year notes in April. We also incurred higher compensation and related expenses of $200,000 primarily due to increases in personnel and higher other general and administrative expenses of $400,000 in comparison to prior year. The ratio of our total operating expenses, excluding interest expense, as a percentage of average total assets, which we believe is a key metric in evaluating our operating efficiency, was 1.6% on an annualized basis for the second quarter of 2013 compared to 1.9% on an annualized basis for the second quarter of 2012. This metric continues to compare very favorably to other BDCs and is approximately 1/3 of the same metric for externally managed BDCs of size similar to Main Street. This low-cost internally managed operating structure allows us to deliver a greater portion of the gross portfolio returns to our shareholders, and we believe that it provides for greater alignment of interest of our management with the interest of our shareholders. Due to our increased total investment…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Vernon Plack from BB&T Capital Markets. Vernon C. Plack - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: Dwayne, the $1.33 of estimated spillover taxable income as of June 30, is that net the $0.20 semiannual supplemental dividend that was paid in July?

Dwayne Louis Hyzak

Analyst

Thanks, Vernon. That's a great question. It is not. That number is before that distribution, so the number, if you were to pro forma for that, would be less the $0.20 paid in July. Vernon C. Plack - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: Okay, great. And Vince, I'd like to hear some -- would love some color on the level of activity that you are anticipating in the lower middle-market for the back half of this year. I know that many have spoken in terms of the fact that they're expecting business to pick up, activity to pick up and was curious in terms of whether or not you're thinking the same thing. Should we see deal activity picked up in the back half?

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Yes, Vernon. Good question. Yes, I think it's going to pick up in the back half, although we just had a whole rash of closings here. I do think there's more activity. I do think that in general, the Q4 2012 kind of mortgaged the future because of the tax rate lowering -- or the low tax rate that was expiring, and I think a lot of us had very slow first quarters. And in our shop, we spent the second quarter rebuilding the pipeline, which precipitated in all the closing activities we recently announced. We continue to have an above-average pipeline. So we're going to have a strong last half of the year. What I don't know is we seem to have gotten on a semiannual level of closing activities. We fill the pipeline, we tend to close them at the same time and then the teams go out and rebuild that pipeline. And so I don't know if we're going to have as strong of a fourth quarter as the third quarter, but we're going to have a very strong third quarter. And it seems like we're kind of back to normal levels of activity, just kind of in general, I don't really see a lot of seasonality. I think it's just a matter of freeing up resources and evaluating the opportunities that are out there and getting your fair share.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from J.T. Rogers from Janney Capital Markets.

John T. G. Rogers - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

I'm sorry if you've already touched on this. I just got on the call. But I'm just wondering if there -- if you had an update on the HMS fund?

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Yes. Not too much of an update, really. They are raising capital at about a $5 million or $6 million a month run rate on a combined debt equity basis. And with that -- to me, that translates into maybe a $0.01 of earnings next year at this run rate. We expect run rate to go up. But if it doesn't, we're not expecting a material contribution next year. But it will be positive and it's just kind of been slow going, there. That's about all we can really say at this point, because we're not really involved in the fund-raising.

John T. G. Rogers - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, that helps. And then I guess another topic that you guys are deeply involved with. I was wondering if there's any movement on the expansion of the SBIC program?

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Yes. I mean, we're pretty encouraged by the movement. There's bills that have been introduced at the committee level in the Senate and the House. There's been committee mark-up action. There's recently a House hearing, I believe, last week, and we are scheduled to go up, I believe, next month as an industry association for a day of lobbying, et cetera. I've got -- I'm attending a lunch with the primary author of the Senate bill. So I'm encouraged. I don't think there's any particular opposition anywhere. It's just finding a bill that we can attach this legislation to, that is not in the context of a bunch of other more controversial amendments being added at the same time, and the whole thing being shut down. So our lobbyist efforts is more tactical at this point, trying to figure out how to get the thing passed when not a lot of legislation is getting passed. So -- but we're encouraged that both parties and both chambers and the administration and the professionals at SBA all seem to be in agreement that this make sense. So it's just a matter of how it gets done.

John T. G. Rogers - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Great. And then I guess just sort of one last, and I'm going to apologize if you touched on this earlier. But just generally, where do you guys broadly see the macro environment moving? Are you seeing improvement? Is It more of the same sort of flat revenue with EBITDA expansion? Just wondering what your thoughts are.

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I think things are pretty flat. The -- I think the lower middle-market companies are holding their own, and our appreciation is coming primarily from deleveraging. That's the kind of beauty of our model, when you have 33% average equity position as any -- as a $1 of debt is paid back, 33% of it increases your equity value. So that's where we're seeing the pickup. But we're not seeing a lot of organic growth, and our companies aren't particularly interested, for whatever reason, in acquisitive growth. So it's very, very stable. And you're going hit for probably 70% to 80% of the companies, then on the 2 ends of the barbell, you're going have -- you're always going to have a few that are struggling for whatever reason, and a few that are experiencing rapid growth. But on average, it's remarkably calm and we're continuing to enjoy appreciation primarily through deleveraging. Would you recharacterize that at all, Dwayne?

Dwayne Louis Hyzak

Analyst

No, I agree 100%, that the low leverage levels allow that free cash flow to continue to deleverage and generate the appreciation.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] I show no further questions in the queue -- actually, I do have one more question from the line of Alan Young [ph] from RC Management [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I just wondered if you could touch on a competitive environment, broadly speaking currently and maybe over the last 6 months? And specifically, how that translates into yields you're getting on your new investment, and maybe any changes in covenants?

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Sure. The lower middle-market, our addressable market, we state as companies generally having anywhere from $3 to $15 million in EBITDA. And clearly, as you move up the food chain, you have more competition. The quality of the companies is higher. They're relatively more attractive and your -- the total yield you can expect is coming down, but it's probably fair to say there's less risk of volatility associated with the cash flows in those companies. And so what we haven't seen -- we see entrants pop up, they raise a fund and deploy the capital, and they may or may not show up with another fund. So there's always some competition in the lower middle market. What we haven't really seen is the banks coming in and being more aggressive. We haven't really seen that in years. And in talking to some of the lenders, they continue to be much more interested in doing the day-to-day banking, having the revolving facilities, 401k, credit cards, other things like that, rather than tackling us or competing with us head on by providing 2x or 3X cash flow and seeing your debt to this -- to our level of companies. So I'd call the competitive environment pretty stable on average. But as you get deep into that $10 million to $15 million EBITDA category, it's always been more competitive. It's hard to say if it's more or less when you probably see more than me.

Dwayne Louis Hyzak

Analyst

I'd have to say it's no different than it has been. It is definitely more competitive as you move up the scale from an EBITDA size standpoint.

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

And then on the -- and we're always able to get the covenants that we're seeking in the lower middle market. I would say we haven't seen much change there. Where you're seeing changes in covenants is in the middle-market side of the portfolio, where you're seeing kind of the reemergence of covenant-like structures, seems like yields have kind of bottomed out and are maybe bouncing along the bottom, they'll tick up and then they'll kind of flatten out again. But the structures will continue to be as aggressive as the investors allow, and the CLOs have been pretty aggressive and haven't pushed back a lot on some of the covenant-like structures. So that's where you're seeing some of the structural loosening. But we don't see it in the lower middle market or that really the private loan portfolio.

Operator

Operator

I show no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn it back to management for any closing remarks.

Vincent D. Foster

Analyst

Great. Well, thank you all for joining us, and we look forward to speaking to you again in early November. Bye.