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El Pollo Loco Holdings, Inc. (LOCO)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 4, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the El Pollo Loco Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode and the lines will be open for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, August 2, 2018. On the call today, we have Bernard Acoca, President and Chief Executive Officer of El Pollo Loco and Larry Roberts, Chief Financial Officer. And now I would like to turn the conference over to Larry Roberts.

Larry Roberts

Management

Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon. By now everyone should have access to our second quarter 2018 earnings release. If not, it can be found at www.elpolloloco.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that our discussion today will include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance on them. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect. We refer all of you to our recent SEC filings for more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. We expect to file our 10-Q for the second quarter of 2018 later today and encourage you to review that document at your earliest convenience. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures, which we believe, can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP, and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release. I'd now like to turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Bernard Acoca.

Bernard Acoca

Management

Thanks, Larry. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today. At a high level, results in the second quarter included revenue growth of 0.6%, excluding franchise, advertising fee revenue, a system wide comparable restaurant sales decline of 0.9% and adjusted EBITDA of $17.5 million. These results were in line with our expectations, and we are reaffirming our full year guidance, which Larry will review in more detail. While our results match our guidance, it's important to call out that we are not satisfied with them and are working hard to do better. With that being said, I'd like to begin today by reviewing the progress we've made against the 3 key strategies that underpin the transformation agenda, we laid out on our last call. Our first strategy is creating a people-first culture. It goes without saying that people are our greatest asset. Throughout my career, I've seen the incredible power company culture has to drive long-term growth by putting your employees' needs and considerations first. As I've immersed myself in this business and gotten to know our people, the word I've heard them use to describe El Pollo Loco, more than any other, is family. I believe this sense of family is a massive source of strength, which can be harnessed to unite us and give us purpose. Building upon this, we have launched a program called heart-centered leadership, which is similar to servant leadership, a concept some of you may be more familiar with. Heart-centered leadership is about leading with authenticity, humility and transparency. It's about motivating and inspiring people in the right way. Over the last several months, we've trained our support center teams on it. We've trained our field leaders on it, and we've trained our franchisees on it. Another investment we are making…

Larry Roberts

Management

Thanks, Bernard. First, I'd like to touch on our store base. During the second quarter, we opened 1 new company-operated restaurant in Southern California, while franchisees opened one new restaurant in Houston. We are raising our development guidance and now expect to open seven to eight company-operated restaurants along with 8 to 10 franchised restaurants in 2018, up from six to eight company-operated and six to eight franchised previously. As for Vision remodels, the company completed five remodels in the second quarter and franchisees completed an additional two. We remain on track to complete 20 company and approximately 30 franchised remodels this year. Now, onto our financial results. For the second quarter ended June 27, 2018, total revenue increased 5.7% to $111.6 million from $105.6 million in the second quarter of 2017. Total revenue in the quarter included $5.5 million of advertising revenue related to franchisees' advertising fund contributions, required as part of new accounting guidance implementation. Excluding the advertising fund revenue, total revenue would have increased 0.6%, driven by an increase in company-operating restaurant sales. Company-operated restaurant sales rose 0.8% in the quarter to $99.6 million from $98.9 million in the second quarter of last year. This increase in company-operated restaurant sales was driven by the contribution from the 14 new restaurants opened during and subsequent to the second quarter of 2017, partially offset by 7 restaurant closures and a 1.6% decline in company-operated comparable restaurant sales. The decrease in company-operated comparable restaurant sales was comprised of a 2.5% decrease in transactions, partially offset by a 0.9% increase in average check. Franchise revenue decreased 2% in the second quarter to $6.6 million compared to $6.7 million in the prior year period. The decrease was driven by a decline in fees received from franchised restaurants related to the use of…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mary McNellis, Baird.

Mary McNellis

Analyst

Bernard, you had mentioned that you returned the positive comps in July. Would you be willing to quantify that quarter-to-date performance? And then, if not, could you elaborate on what you think specifically drove that improvement?

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, I mean, I'm not going to comment directly on the numbers themselves, but we were very pleased with how July progressed, and we are attributing it to, I think, some of the early gains we're seeing through the execution of our transformation agenda. And so we're pleased with the progress that we're seen there.

Mary McNellis

Analyst

Fair enough. And then on a couple of those drivers within the transformation agenda, I just want to ask on the menu simplification initiative, can you clarify whether you've already started to test that initiative in some locations, and if you have tested it, what you've seen thus far? And whether you see opportunity to roll that out to the core markets as well as the noncore?

Bernard Acoca

Management

So I think, where you'll see that initiative first take effect, as I mentioned, earlier in the call is in Dallas and Houston, where this September, we will implement a more simplified menu. We're going to be reducing SKUs to the tune of 12 to 15 SKUs there on the menu, and that will also be accompanied by a new menu board design, which we will believe -- which we believe will make ordering a lot easier. Later in the year, and we're still kind of finalizing timing on that, we're going to be testing a rationalized menu with the fewer SKUs as well in our core market of Los Angeles. That one, we want to do -- certainly do a little bit more extensive testing on to determine the impact that will have on our overall business. So leaning in a little bit more in Texas, where we feel that makes a lot more sense for us, given the nature of that market and given where the nature of -- where that business is, testing it later in the year here in our core -- one of our core markets of Los Angles, and that one will be a longer test for us to really understand the impact that can have to our overall business.

Mary McNellis

Analyst

And then just lastly, on delivery, what are you seeing in terms of consumer uptick so far?

Bernard Acoca

Management

So it's early days for us. We just launched this initiative in June. When we started out, we had about 65% of our store footprint covered. We've recently expanded that to 80%. So it's growing, but what I would say is this, the real key to success for us, we believe in smart, judicious, profitable delivery growth moving forward is really driving a lot of that business through our loyalty program. And I think -- while delivery has become the hot topic in the industry right now, I think people are getting a little bit ahead of themselves. And what we want to do is be really smart in the way that we choose to incorporate delivery and embrace delivery as part of our business, so that what we are driving is not only incremental but certainly profit accretive, and again, just to reiterate, we think the best way we're going to do that is a by simultaneously [growing] loyalty business and using that as the conduit to delivery moving forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andy Barish, Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

It's Alex on for Andy. Just wanted to dig into the, I think the 0.9% check growth and I guess, it seemed like you're running about maybe 1.9%, 2% price in the quarter. So what's kind of -- what's been going on with mix? And what's been driving that negative mix? I would think that we would have seen some stabilization there?

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, Alex, so you're right. The mix is negative in the quarter. I would highlight though, it was certainly improvement from the first quarter, and if you recall in the first quarter, we highlighted mix was negative mainly driven by lower family meal mix and also driving some other, the 5-dollar combos along with some of the loyalty program discount, the things that we're running drove negative mix in Q1. Some of that got better in Q2. Family meal mix, is one of the things that got better in Q2. The loyalty discounts were still there, so again, we had some of the drivers of negative mix in the second quarter that we had in the first quarter. However, there were some other factors that we were mitigating, and some of those will continue quite frankly. There will continue through some of the balance of the year also, but we continue to think that mix will continue to improve like it did in Q2. It will continue improving in Q3 and Q4.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then just wanted to dig in a little bit on to the development guidance and the uptick, the slight uptick, I guess, to the company units as well as the raise to the franchised guidance. And as you think about the brand architecture and how that can potentially impact the Vision design overtime, I guess, what sort of drove the uptick and then as we think about next year, any sort of pause or shift in how we should think about that?

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, so right now I mean we're still working on next year's development plan. So I know the development team is hard at work both with franchisees and on the company side, finding sites and getting them through the approval process. I mean, incurrent increase that you see for this year was really moving forward development that was really slightly for probably early next year is where we thought was coming in, but it's actually moved forward into this year. So that augmentality is really just moving forward. Having said that, we're really working hard at next year's development pipeline, although we're not ready to give guidance as to what we think 2019 will look like.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then just one last one, if I may. The work on the heart-centered leadership and the training that's been happening, I know it's still early, but are you seeing any changes in retention metrics or any minor shifts in kind of hospitality and feedback scores as you invest in the team?

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, I mean, it's -- it would be premature for us to kind of be able to tell you right -- at this juncture that, that is having a meaningful impact on those metrics. But what I can say with absolute certainty is just the energy, the reaction, the level of engagement by our employees as well as our franchisee community is really something that we haven't seen around here in quite some time. We just returned from our leadership conference, our franchisee leadership conference in San Diego a few weeks ago. I hope I'm not taking some of our franchisees' quotes out of context here but the level of energy, enthusiasm for the transformation agenda, the kind of Vision moving forward and the partnership that we are really trying to even reestablish with our franchisees to embrace and adopt a 1-system, 1-brand mindset has been extremely well received. And the only other part that I'll share with you is that using technology as an enabler through this Workplace by Facebook, platform, we have been able to gauge what employee engagement looks like real time in a way that we haven't been able to in the past, where on a daily basis, I am able to have conversations with people on the front line, see what they're doing, see how they're responding to our initiatives, and we're just so encouraged by what we're seeing there. So I'm looking forward to being able to answer your question at a later date, I just would think it's a little premature for me to give you an answer at this point.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Jake Bartlett, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Kevin Robinson

Analyst

This is Kevin Robinson on for Jake. And I just have 2 questions. One, the loyalty members were 750,000 first quarter. Where are you right now in terms of that number? And also can you talk about like the average check versus your nonloyalty members? And how frequent the loyalty members use your services? Just trying to get a sense of how you could leverage that going forward? And my second question is, can you talk a little bit about the current landscape in terms of your peers and you in terms of deep discounting and what are the customers looking for? Those are my two questions.

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, so in regards to our loyalty membership, you are right, we reported 750,000 members last quarter. We're approaching very close to 1 million now. The check, I'll say is roughly comparable, it's perhaps slightly low -- slightly lower, not by much, but slightly lower. And in terms of frequency there, that's still data that we're still trying to get at, and incrementality is really the name of the game for us. What I will say about our loyalty program quite honestly, because if you can recall, we launched this thing a little more than a year ago. We're exactly where we want to be. This is what I would term as being Phase 1 of the launch of any company's loyalty program. And in kind of that first-year time period what you really want to do is it's all about membership acquisition and establishing a database of customers. And I think we're very have -- we very successfully have done that. Now we're embarking and about to enter Phase 2, which is really about segmenting that database, based on our customers' rich purchase history and trying to figure out the best and most profitable way to drive incremental visits and/or guest check. And that is what we're a studiously working on right now. The second part of your question forgive me, I forgot that. Can you ask it again?

Kevin Robinson

Analyst

It was just in comparison the, I think [indiscernible]…

Bernard Acoca

Management

The value?

Kevin Robinson

Analyst

Yes, the value part. So landscape is the second question.

Bernard Acoca

Management

Yes, so I think the thing that we did and we have been doing I think pretty astutely, it's that we haven't gotten sucked into some of these value wars that have been -- being played out in the industry. Because I think what a lot of people have seen through mix shift is that they haven't necessarily been profit accretive. In many cases, they haven't been transaction accretive. That's the thing that the industry is obviously still wrestling with. We have been focused on two things in regards to value, and I think you'll continue to see us doing that. One, do a better job of communicating the incredible value that we already provide our customers today through the quality we provide, and we want to do a lot of robust story telling around that. All the pains we take in our restaurant every single day, the things that we make from scratch every morning, the things that we hand cut, hand dice, et cetera, really focusing the quality aspect of our food. And the second thing is really focusing on the terrific value and price points that we already offer our customers today. So we offer a $5 value menu that has been a staple of our menu for quite some time. What you'll see us doing in the future is bringing new news to that and expanding it even further to provide some additional relevance to it. But what we're not doing is, I think what a lot of people have been doing and at that is, really lowering their price points in the hopes of enticing this ever-elusive incremental customer. I don't think we're going to win at that game. That's not right strategy for us.

Larry Roberts

Management

The only thing I'd add is that we obviously track value scores very closely, both directly from customer feedback, the, what they call, a 100 number or through the Internet, when they give us feedback, and then we also use external research with various companies and thus far what we've seen is the value scores remained strong, so we feel like we're on the right track, just as Bernard said.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andy Barish, Jefferies.

Andy Barish

Analyst

Just a quick follow-up to that question, actually. Bernard, you mentioned that the average check for the rewards numbers is actually slightly lower. Is that because of an offer being redeemed or -- I was just wondering about that dynamic.

Bernard Acoca

Management

I believe that does play a part of it in terms of the offers being redeemed is the part what keeps that check low and over time, that should be reduced, and so that we could see that check improve.

Andy Barish

Analyst

And then just thinking obviously, early as well, but thinking a little bit about the pipeline of innovation, you mentioned earlier, Bernard. On the heels of the comment around existing value on the menu, is that really where we should expect to see new products sort of in that $5 value menu or the family meal platform?

Bernard Acoca

Management

Well, I think what you're going to see from us is obviously, maniacal focus on the dinner occasion and on the lunch occasion. And on the dinner occasion, we're going to be hyper focused against families and really figuring out how to make that occasion much more an emotional aspirational experience, if you will. That one won't be as price point driven, but it'll really be through the products, the really relevant innovation we bring to that day part, all about the great better-for-you of things we can bring to families so that mom and dad's can feel really good about what they serve their kids during that occasion. I think during lunch, really targeted more to that individual diner, you'll see us be much more, let's call it, transactionally focused more promotionally focused, more retail harder hitting. But the connective tissue that will exist between the dinner occasion and the lunch occasion will be this better-for-you element whatever and as often as we can forge it. And that'll really be one of our big differentiators moving forward. So I -- that's really the kind of philosophical approach we're bringing to our calendar moving forward.

Andy Barish

Analyst

And I guess thinking about the improvement that you're seeing in July, has it been broad-based in across both day parts or are you seeing any balance sort of toward that later dinner day part with those family meals?

Bernard Acoca

Management

No, I think the thing that we've been encouraged by July is that we're seeing it across-the-board during all day parts, and that's what we've been focused on.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I would like to turn the call back to Bernard Acoca for closing remarks.

Bernard Acoca

Management

I just want to thank everyone for joining us on the call this afternoon and evening, depending on where you are. And we thank you for your questions and your continued confidence in us, and we look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.