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Lincoln National Corporation (LNC)

Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 3, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and thank you for joining Lincoln National Financial Group's Third Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will announce the opportunity for questions and instructions will be given at that time. Now, I would like to turn the conference over to Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Chris Giovanni. Please go ahead, sir.

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Thank you, Charlotte. Good morning and welcome to Lincoln Financial's third quarter earnings call. Before we begin, I have an important reminder. Any comments made during the call regarding future expectations, trends and market conditions, including comments about sales and deposits, expenses, income from operations, share repurchases and liquidity and capital resources are forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. These risks and uncertainties are described in the cautionary statement disclosures in our earnings release issued yesterday and our reports on forms 8-K, 10-Q and 10-K filed with the SEC. We appreciate your participation today and invite you to visit Lincoln Financial's website, www.lincolnfinancial.com, where you can find our press release and statistical supplement which include a full reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures used in the call, including income from operations and return on equity, to their most comparable GAAP measures. Presenting on today's call are Dennis Glass, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Randy Freitag, Chief Financial Officer. After their prepared remarks, we will move to the question-and-answer portion of the call. I would now like to turn things over to Dennis.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone. Third quarter earnings were particularly strong as we reported record operating earnings and earnings per share. Excluding notable items, EPS increased 10% compared to the prior year. These were high-quality results as all four of our businesses produced solid earnings and our sources of earnings were well-balanced. Our balance sheet and capital position continue to be very strong evidenced by nearly $9 billion of statutory capital and a 10% increase in our book value per share, excluding AOCI, to almost $57. During the quarter, we also completed our comprehensive annual assumption review which had a modest impact on our financials. Given the strength of our balance sheet and our consistent capital generation, we returned more than $250 million to shareholders in the third quarter. In addition, we also announced last night that the board of directors approved a 16% increase in our quarterly dividend. As we are all aware, macro headwinds are dampening growth for the life insurance industry and we are certainly not immune to that. However, I am pleased that across the enterprise, we are successfully responding to these challenges with short-term actions, including disciplined expense management and incremental capital management to sustain our EPS growth. We also have additional actions underway to position us for the longer term, including pricing changes on both in-force and where-needed new business and enterprise-wide digitization initiative that will significantly enhance our customer experience and provide efficiencies over time and an intense focus on product innovation, particularly in our Annuity business, to meet evolving consumer preferences and marketplace shifts. This strategy will once again rely on our core strengths, distribution and product development. We will update you on these initiatives as they evolve. But I am excited that each will provide us an opportunity to sustain…

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Thank you, Dennis. Last night, we reported income from operations of $441 million or $1.89 per share for the third quarter. Excluding notable items, EPS increased 10% year-over-year. First, let me touch on this year's annual review of DAC and reserve assumptions. Following last year's lowering of our long-term earned rate assumption by 50 basis points, this year's annual review had a series of pluses and minuses that netted to a modest positive impact to operating earnings of $5 million or $0.02 per share. A few comments on this year's review process. Favorable items this year included variable annuity policyholder behavior and expenses. These items more than offset the impact of lower interest rates and a 30 basis point decrease in our separate account return assumption which now stands at 7.3%. It is also worth noting that we did not unlock a reversion to the mean corridor, which still provides a cushion against weak equity markets. So the bottom line related to our annual review is that when viewed in total, the assumptions underlined in our balance sheet continue to be sound. Outside of the annual assumption review, other notable items included a $0.02 benefit in Group Protection from a balance sheet review that I will discuss later and another $0.02 in Other Operations largely from tax adjustments. One other item of note before shifting to key performance metrics and that is variable investment income was strong this quarter. Results ran $18 million after tax and DAC or $0.08 per share ahead of our 5-year average for prepayment-related income and our 10% return assumption on alternatives. Moving to the performance of key financial metrics. Book value per share, excluding AOCI, now stands at $56.65, up 10% as we continue to consistently compound book value. Operating ROE was outstanding at 13.7%…

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Thank you, Dennis and Randy. We will now begin the Q&A session. We have about 30 minutes. And as a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and only one follow-up, then re-queue if you have additional questions. With that, let me turn it over to Charlotte to begin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of John Nadel from Credit Suisse. Your line is now open. John M. Nadel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Hey. Good morning, everybody. The first question I have is around risk-based capital and just capital supporting the variable annuity business. We've, I guess, heard on the first two calls this morning, both MET and PRU, that they may be taking or at least articulating a slightly different approach to the way they think about risk-based capital and capital supporting the VA blocks and really thinking about the targeted risk-based capital ratio of 400% for everything ex variable annuities and then thinking about variable annuity capital relative to a CTE-97 or 98 kind of level. If we thought the same way or in a similar fashion for Lincoln, what kind of impact does that have? I think given the captive, your risk-based capital at about 500% is still something we can think about relative to that 400% longer term. Is that reasonable?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Hey, John. Thanks for the question. That's a very broad question, so let me come at it this way. When I think about how we develop capital that's appropriate for all of our businesses, I don't think about it as any different business to business. Ultimately, we're looking at the stresses that can impact each and every business. And that should ultimately drive the amount of capital that we've put behind each of those businesses. In the case of the variable annuity business, we express that with a CTE measure. And we talk about capitalizing that business to a CTE-98 measure. John M. Nadel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Yeah.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Now the stresses are going to be different in a Life business, for instance, where you're primarily talking about credit stress, or an annuity business where once again you're talking about credit stress. So while these stresses or the potential impacts may be different, the fundamental underlying approach for how we develop our capital is consistent across all of the businesses. We then convey those approaches, typically, through an expression of an RBC percentage. As I mentioned, we were at 500% at the end of the quarter. As I've said in the past, we have a very strong balance sheet. But I wouldn't anticipate taking some piece of that balance sheet and doing an outsized share buyback, for instance, in a particular quarter. I think we do have excess capital on our balance sheet if we wanted to do something like some M&A probably in the range of $500 million to $750 million. But I don't think that when you take everything like ratings into account, that we would take a similar amount of capital and suddenly put that into buybacks. That being said, we continue to do a strong amount of buybacks each and every year. And I'd point out that our shares went down nearly 8% year-over-year, indicating the strong capital return story that we have been. So, John, that's how I would think about capital that we use to support the business and how we ultimately express that as an RBC percentage. John M. Nadel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Yeah. No, I appreciate that, Randy. That's very helpful. And my second question unrelated to the first is, if we think about mortality results in the Life Insurance segment, seasonally, 3Q tends to be more favorable than the other three quarters of the year. And just reflecting upon that relative to a typical seasonal strong 3Q, how would you characterize this quarter's results? And could you remind us how to think about the contribution in 3Q relative to the rest of the year?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Sure. I think the third Q was the better twin of the first quarter, certainly with a little different numbers in terms of the mix. If you remember in the first quarter, I talked about $30 million of negative mortality experience with roughly two-thirds of that being expected seasonality and then the other one-third being over and above that. This quarter we had roughly, in total, what I would say is about $15 million of favorable mortality over a full year's average quarter, with about two-thirds being normal seasonality and the other third being experience better than that. But if you try to break that down into percentages, the actual expected for the quarter, John, came in about 95%, 96%, I believe it was. So a good quarter all around, a quarter that wasn't unexpected as we do talk about favorable seasonality in the quarter. But, nonetheless, a very good quarter. John M. Nadel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Perfect. Thank you, Randy.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Jamminder Singh Bhullar - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Hi. Just had a question first on alternative investment income. It was pretty strong this quarter. So I don't think you highlighted the number that you see as sort of maybe above your expected long-term run rate. But if you could do that and then also just talk a little bit about which asset classes did well and contributed the most to that. And then I have a couple other questions.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Hey, Jimmy. In terms of the impact, I mentioned $0.08 between prepayment income and alternatives. About one quarter or $0.02 of that was from the alternative portfolio. You know we have a long-term expectation of a 10% return in the portfolio. I think we actually came in at 12.4% for the quarter. So it was a good strong quarter. But I think it was consistent with movements in the equity markets that we've seen in prior quarters.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

If I could just follow up. About 90% of that overall number came from private equities, balanced hedge funds, but both categories performed nicely.

Jamminder Singh Bhullar - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Okay. And then you reported pretty strong margins both in Group insurance where you've been repricing and individual life. Individual life especially has been weak the last few quarters. So does this represent more of a run rate that you can improve off of or do you consider the margins in both of those businesses abnormally good this quarter?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Well, you asked about two businesses. And I just addressed the Life question. We had a good mortality quarter which benefited us by roughly $15 million. And I also mentioned that additionally we had about half of that $18 million of variable investment income, or $9 million, was located in the Life line. So overall, it was a strong quarter that featured good mortality. I would also note that when we think about seasonality, we think about it being negative in the first quarter and then getting it back in the third and fourth quarter. So our base expectation as we go into the fourth quarter is that mortality in terms of, once again, an average quarter would be a little better than that full year's average quarter. In terms of the Group business, $28 million of earnings; I noted that $5 million of earnings came from the review of reserves and DAC. So if you took that out, you'd be at $23 million or a 4.7% margin. At the end of the day, Jimmy, it was a good quarter. If you go business by business and look at the loss ratios that we reported and if you adjusted those loss ratios for the reserve review, you would see that every line, Life, Disability and Dental, improved from the prior year and improved from the preceding quarter. So it was undoubtedly a quarter consistent with what we've talked about, which is the repricing of this business has been done and is largely behind us. And you're starting to see that feed through into the results. When you look business by business, I would say that our strongest quarter would have been in the Life business. And when you look forward, I would – I think if you look in the stat supp, Jimmy, the loss ratio in the Life business was 66%. I'd expect that to trend up a little over time. And the adjusted loss ratio for the Disability business would have been 74%. I'd expect that to trend down a little bit over time. When you wrap it altogether, we had an adjusted loss ratio of 70.2%. I'd put that on the good side of an expected quarter for this business. And I think – if you went back to the first quarter, I talked about a 1% to 2% sort of margin around an expected mean. And I think that this quarter was on the good side of that expected mean.

Jamminder Singh Bhullar - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now open

And then you mentioned you being – you're done with your repricing initiatives. As you're looking at year-end renewal season, how is the pricing in the market? Because we've heard from some other companies that it's starting to get a little bit more competitive now. But how is the pricing in the group benefits market?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Jimmy, it's Dennis. We're not seeing across any of our businesses any outliers. And all of our businesses, they have good, strong, tough competition. Interestingly, in some of the business lines, take for example, RPS, it's a little bit less on price and a little bit more on technology and how that technology can help both the provider and the participant. But in general, we don't see any extreme pricing, either people coming in and underpricing or anything in that arena.

Jamminder Singh Bhullar - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Thomas Gallagher - Evercore ISI

Analyst · Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open

Dennis, I wanted to follow up on some of your DOL comments as it relates to the variable annuity business. And you talked about by 2018, you expect net flows to become positive. Can you provide a little color on how you see this playing out for yourself, for the industry a little more broadly in this context? So is your expectation that you're going to see a pretty meaningful product pivot and commission structure pivot here as it relates to a move into passives on the product side and a move to level fee sales versus the frontload commission structure that has existed historically? Or do you not see something that dramatic happening here?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

That's a good question. And I think a lot of that answer remains to be seen. What we know now and what I said during our remarks, which I know you've heard, but I'll repeat them, is that there's a big group of advisors that haven't been doing the VA business because the VA business – they've had more commission-based financial advisors than fee-based advisors. We think that's an opportunity for growth. We think there's a very significant population of financial advisors if the industry and Lincoln provides better fee-based product structures that they'll participate. So that's one direction. Is there going to be a significant shift from commissions in the traditional marketplace where it has been commissions? Is there going to be a significant shift from commission compensation to fee-based compensation? Again, I think we have to wait and see if that's going to take place. We're focused on and I think all of our distribution partners are focused on what is in the best interest of their clients in terms of the type of fees or the type of compensation that they charge. And as we have talked about on numerous occasions; for insurance contracts where the advice cycle is mostly upfront, it seems like commissions make most sense both for the advisor who's providing the advice upfront. And it's less expensive oftentimes for the client because there's not this ongoing management fee that's really, in long-dated insurance contracts, not as necessary it is, say, for example, with an advisor who's helping with asset mix on a daily or quarterly basis. So in the industry in general, the movement to passive investments has been pretty significant. Whether or not that continues, we'll have to see. But we want to be in a position to meet that need as well. So we'll have to see. But we think we're well-positioned no matter what direction the overall marketplace takes.

Thomas Gallagher - Evercore ISI

Analyst · Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open

Thanks for that, Dennis. And then if I could shift to a question on the NAIC proposal to change variable annuity capital and reserving framework. Randy, any initial thoughts on this as it relates to your views on ultimately how much capital is going to be needed for this business? Do you feel well-positioned based on the way this is trending? Would you expect that maybe this could consume more capital? And any initial thoughts?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Tom, there hasn't been a lot of change since the last time we talked about this. Yes, we do feel well-positioned. In general, I think we're typically going to be supportive of changes that we see as improvement to how we account for our product. Then undoubtedly, what the NAIC in conjunction with Oliver Wyman is working on is an improvement in how variable annuities are accounted for both from a reserve and a capital standpoint. It's an improvement because it's moving from what I would describe as more of a book value approach to what I would describe as more of an economic value approach. And that is a good change because that's how we hedge the products and when we think about that risk. So we are supportive of what Oliver Wyman is doing. We believe we are well-positioned. If you go piece by piece through the proposal, you're going to find some that are positives and some of that are negatives relative to the current approach to reserving that the NAIC has. For instance, I think linking the returns to the risk-free rates would probably be a negative. But on the other hand, hedge accounting for derivative assets is a definitive positive. When you add them all together, we continue to believe we're well-positioned. I think one other thing that leaves me feeling very good about how we're positioned for any changes that might come about is what you see with our policyholder behavior. As I mentioned in my script, you've seen very large charges across the industry from companies who've had to bring their policyholder behavior assumptions more in line with experience. You haven't seen that at Lincoln. In fact, if you look over the last 5 years, the sum total of impacts from unlocking our policyholder behavior assumptions is a positive. It's been a positive pretty much each and every year. So I think the fact that our assumptions are well-linked to our actual experience and always have been puts us in a very good position when you think about what the NAIC is working on.

Thomas Gallagher - Evercore ISI

Analyst · Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open

That's helpful, Randy. And just one final one. This 7.3% separate account return assumption, that moved from 7.6% a year ago. So did you take that down 30 basis points?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yes, we did. If you remember last year, we went from 8.2% to 7.6%. And this year we went from 7.6% to 7.3% and that was primarily by doing some work on the underlying returns that go into the separate accounts. This year, it happened to be primarily on the fixed income side.

Thomas Gallagher - Evercore ISI

Analyst · Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open

And I presume then that you had one maybe semi-sizable adjustment negatively. Was that then offset by favorable policyholder behavior?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah. In fact, the Annuity business, as we mentioned, the total was $10 million of negative results from the unlocking. That was comprised of $25 million from changing capital markets assumptions and that was primarily the reduction in the separate account return. That was offset by $15 million of positive primarily from policyholder behavior. So then that netted to the $10 million that we talked about.

Thomas Gallagher - Evercore ISI

Analyst · Tom Gallagher, from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open

Okay, so pretty small. Thank you.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sean Dargan from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Sean Dargan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Sean Dargan from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Hi, thanks. I'd like to follow up on Tom's question around DOL and Annuity sales in another way. Dennis and Randy, for the last couple of years, you've been saying that if Annuity sales fell because of changes in how the products sold due to DOL, you would use the capital that was backing those annuities and buy back more stock. We're kind of essentially there now at least in order of magnitude. Versus what I was thinking, it came a little earlier. I was thinking the fall would come in 2017. So I'm just wondering, Randy, if the stats surplus in RBC that you referenced earlier, if that's benefited at all from the lower capital strain from lower Annuity sales.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Sean, I think we've pretty much done what we said we would do. So if you look at what we've done year-to-date, we have returned 76% of operating earnings to shareholders through buybacks and dividends. That compares to a guidance of 50% to 55%. If you use the central point of that guidance and you develop how much additional buybacks over our guidance that would be, what you will see is that there's probably about $75 million in there related to lower variable annuity sales. And I would expect that to continue, should Annuity sales remain below our longer-term expectations. As Dennis mentioned, we will be working aggressively to get back to a positive flow situation. But we have been and we will continue to do what we've said which is put that capital to work through share buybacks.

Sean Dargan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Sean Dargan from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Okay, thanks. And can you help us think if you do get to positive flows and the vehicle that gets you there is a fee-based annuity chassis, is the capital strain lower on selling new products with that type of product versus the commission-based chassis that you've used in the past?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah, absolutely. You have less investment upfront. So what you will typically see is that, from a return standpoint, your ROEs are a little higher and your ROAs are a little lower because of the fact that you don't have as much investment and you have less capital strain.

Sean Dargan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Sean Dargan from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

All right, thank you.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Krueger from KBW. Your line is now open. Ryan Krueger - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to follow up on the no-load passive VA that you're going to roll out. I guess, one, is that an investment-only product or does it have an income guarantee? And then secondly, are there many other passive-only VAs in the market or is yours the first or one of the first to roll out?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah. I refer to this, Ryan, as a new product category, not that elements of it aren't in the market. And we're not going to go into too much detail because it is a competitive opportunity, I think. But it's the combination of passive investment income, a simplified guaranteed living benefit and a no-load product. And again, I'm not aware of any competitive products that include all of those features. And importantly, sort of back to the question that I was asked about, what's the direction of commissions versus fees. I think the most important answer is what's in the best interest of the customer; what's the customer's investment ideas, coming back to – or preferences, I should say – coming back to passive. At the moment, a lot of active investment moving to passive. We're just trying all the time to be responsive to major trends in the industry. I think this particular product is exciting. It has a lot of technology associated with it that makes it easier for the customer to understand the product and where it might fit into the customer's overall portfolio of investments. So we're very excited about it and we've got a great partner. And again, because it's so technology-heavy, it will take a few months to get it into the market and then connect with our different distribution partners' systems. Ryan Krueger - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Thanks. And then for Randy, it seems that a lot of your peers have disclosed their long-term interest rate assumptions on a risk-free basis. I think your 5.25% is an earned rate assumption. I was just hoping you could tell us what that kind of translates into for a risk-free rate for comparison purposes.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah, I think most people generally have talked about the 10-year risk-free rate and how that translates into a longer-term earned rate. For us, the underlying 10-year Treasury assumption is 3.75%. When I look around, and I do have access to some surveys and other information on the industry, I would say that that number is, in general, at the lower end of industry assumptions. I would say that the industry average is probably about 50 basis points higher than that. On the other hand, our grading period of 5 years is probably a little shorter than the average industry grading period. I think those two items, from an economic standpoint, probably offset each other. I would prefer, or we would prefer right now, to be in a situation with the lower ultimate rate assumption because I think most evidence indicates that over the longer term, we should expect rates to be a little lower than they have historically. And we also happen to think that whatever the ultimate resolution on rates is going to be, it's going to be known inside of 5 years. We will understand that rates are going to move higher or in the next 5 years we will understand that we should lower the assumption again. Ryan Krueger - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: All right, great. Thank you.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Kovac from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Michael Kovac - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Great, thanks. For Randy here, I was wondering if you could share any initial thoughts, as we are in the fourth quarter, about statutory testing and lower rate utilization; anything you learned this quarter that you could share with us?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Hey, Michael. Thanks for the question. I think, as we have done in the past, our overall cash flow testing has yielded a growing efficiency over time as we add some more new business and more profitable new business than runs off our books. In terms of the things that can be variable from year to year, you're generally talking about the subtests, what are called 8C and 8D, the highly descriptive tests – 8C and 8D. The rates for those – for the 8D test was locked in back at June 30. It's well-known and we don't anticipate any stress from either of those tests this year. So we feel very good about how we're positioned for cash flow testing and would not expect any additional reserves this year end.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

And Mike, I'll just then, for everybody's benefit, just add a comment that if you go to our investor presentations there is a lot of sensitivity around this question and the consequences of interest rates at different levels. If you go into the policyholder assumptions sensitivities, you can see very little – you can see what the impacts are on us. And in all cases, I think we feel like we're in a good shape. Michael Kovac - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Thanks, that's helpful. And then one for Dennis here. Appreciate all the additional color on the Department of Labor and the uncertainty that maybe still exists to some degree. I was wondering if you could give us an update in terms of any either upfront expenses or ongoing expenses that you believe you will incur as we head into April and then sort of on the go-forward.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah, Michael, let me bucket that for you. The most significant investment is on the distributor's part, not on the manufacturer's part. And so, yes, in our RPS business and in our Annuity business, there's some incremental investment, but it's not significant. In our own broker-dealer, which is not a large contributor to earnings, there's probably a little bit more in terms of its expenses, a little bit higher for the implementation. But I'm not aware of any significant expense item with Lincoln primarily because we're the manufacturer of related DOL.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Nothing outside of what I would describe as manageable expenses, sort of expenses that come up all the time. Michael Kovac - Goldman Sachs & Co.: That's helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Humphrey Lee from Dowling & Partners. Your line is now open. Humphrey Hung Fai Lee - Dowling & Partners Securities LLC: Good morning and thank you for my questions. I have a question regarding the new products that you're launching, not the passive one, but the other one that you're enhancing the investment's flexibility. For those enhanced flexibility, would you still have the volatility control features in those fund options? Or if not, would that still have any kind of living benefits associated with that product?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah, Humphrey, that's a good question. And let me talk about the design of products generally. And let me put it into three categories. One, if you will, you have the investment engine and that means that you have asset allocation funds or do you have risk-managed funds or individual securities or individual mutual funds. So we make adjustments on all of the engines, if you will, that drives outcomes. The next block that you have is how does the roll-up feature work for guaranteed living benefits. And as you know, almost everyone on the phone knows, oftentimes in the market it's about 5% roll-up for income purposes. And then on the backend, you have the third important piece which is what's the identified payout, how can that identified payout be adjusted. So when looking at your questions, I can tell you that in terms of the risk-managed funds, we did build a product that doesn't rely on them. But we've also had to look carefully at those other two buckets so that when you step back and ask, is it a good consumer value and does it fit into our risk tolerances, the answer is yes on both. Humphrey Hung Fai Lee - Dowling & Partners Securities LLC: So basically, it will be – you kind of broadened the investment choices without the kind of the built-in volatility control in those options. But then you kind of manage it from the roll-up perspective and the payout perspective.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

I think if I heard you correctly, that's correct. Humphrey Hung Fai Lee - Dowling & Partners Securities LLC: Okay. And then maybe shifting gears a little bit. In terms of the Life Insurance sales kind of like running being pretty decent, how should we think about when would you get into the capacity that you can do some reserve financing again? And on top of it, with the upcoming principal-based reserving, how will that change your need for reserve financing going forward?

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

I think with the level of Term sales we've have had this year – as Dennis noted, Term sales were up quite nicely year-over-year. I would expect that we would likely have the amount of Term business where we would look to do one next year. Don't know the exact timing on when it would be next year. But it's likely that we would have the capacity to do one next year.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

I would just add in that principal-based reserving has had a very positive effect on the reduction of the required reserves on that product. And so it, longer term, will have less need for reserve financing on Term business.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Yeah, Dennis is absolutely right. As we look at PBR rolling out, principals-based reserve, excuse me – rolling out next year, you would see much less strain on Term insurance sales, so much less need to do reserve financings. Humphrey Hung Fai Lee - Dowling & Partners Securities LLC: Okay. Thank you for the color.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I'm not showing any other further questions and would like to turn the call back over to Chris Giovanni for closing remarks.

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Management

Thank you, Charlotte, and thank you all for joining us this morning. As always, we're available to take your questions on our Investor Relations line at 800-237-2920 or via e-mail at investorrelations@lfg.com. Thank you all and have a good day.

Operator

Operator

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