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Lindblad Expeditions Holdings, Inc. (LIND)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 4, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Lindblad Expeditions Second Quarter 2018 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode.[Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Craig Felenstein, Chief Financial Officer. Sir, please go ahead.

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

Thank you, Steven. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for Lindblad's Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. With me on the call today is Sven Lindblad, our Founder and Chief Executive Officer. Sven will begin with some opening comments, and then I will follow with some details on our second quarter results before we open the call for Q&A. You can find our latest earnings release in the Investor Relations section of our website. Before we get started, let me remind everyone that the company's comments today may include forward looking statements. Those expectations are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and performance to be materially different from these expectations. The company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates, and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. If you would like more information on the risks involved in forward-looking statements, please see the company's SEC filings. In addition, our comments may reference non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in the company's earnings release. And with that out of the way, let me turn the call over to Sven.

Sven Lindblad

Analyst

Thank you, Craig, and thanks all for joining us on this call today. Lindblad's sustained financial and operational momentum continued into the second quarter, and I'm pleased to have the opportunity to highlight our current results and speak to some key initiatives that will enable us to build on this momentum moving forward. The strong results, we generated during Q2 demonstrates our growth opportunity ahead, as well as we add capacity to meet the increasing demand for high quality authentic and immersive expedition travel. Similar to Q1, the growth this past quarter was in large part due to the launch of the National Geographic Quest in July 2017. At the same time, occupancies across the broader fleet expanded by 500 basis points versus a year ago to 90%, while net yields increased 6% to over $1000 per night. Our ability to increase price in occupancy as we add additional inventory is a reflection of the accelerating demand we see both from new, as well as returning guests and gives us confidence in the long term growth prospects for Lindblad. At the same time, as Craig will discuss in a moment, we are on track to deliver on our short term expectations as well. We have already booked 99% of our anticipated ticket revenue in the current year with strong growth across both our owned and chartered vessels, as well as our diverse set of itineraries. The one destination, which has performed slightly below expectations in 2018, was the South Pacific aboard the National Geographic Orion, while the transition period from Antarctica to summer of this year was the best second quarter for Orion since 2014. The occupancies were just not quite as high as we expected to generate. We arguably had too much inventory for one year. We have rebalanced…

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

Thanks, Sven. As Sven mentioned, Lindblad delivered another strong quarter this Q2, as the sustained strategic investments we are making to expand our capacity and develop our sales and marketing infrastructure are generating continued significant returns. As we have expanded our available guest nights, we have also been able to increase our occupancy rates and net yields across the fleet, which speaks to the quality of our guest experience and the growing demand for immersive and authentic expedition travel. During the second quarter of 2018, Lindblad delivered revenue of $69.5 million, growth of 25% versus the second quarter a year ago, led by 26% growth at the Lindblad segment and 19% growth at Natural Habitat. The revenue growth contributed to a $6.2 million or 117% increase in adjusted EBITDA to $11.5 million. Turning to each of the segments, the Lindblad segment generated revenues of $59.6 million, an increase of 26% or $12.3 million versus the second quarter a year ago. This growth was primarily due to an 18% increase in Available Guest Nights, mostly from the launch of the National Geographic Quest in July of 2017, and to a lesser extent, from the timing of drydocks in the current year. As I mentioned last quarter, the 2017 drydocks for the National Geographic Endeavour and National Geographic Orion, were primarily completed during the second quarter, while in 2018, both the Endeavour and the Orion will be in drydock during the end of Q3 and the beginning of Q4. The revenue growth this past quarter also reflects a 6% increase in net yield to a $1,002 per night due to higher pricing across most itineraries and growth in occupancy from 85% to 90% due to broad-based demand across the entire Lindblad fleet. Turning to the cost side of the business, Lindblad segment…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Hey, Good morning, guys. Pretty encouraging numbers on the yields and the pricing, and so my question is, as you look forward, does that make you want to potentially hold back a little bit more inventory and try to capture even more close-in pricing, are you able to do that or the booking window is too elongated for that?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

Given the average booking window for the company is about nine months, in some cases it's -- today, we're booking plenty of stuff for 2020 already. We tend not to do that, we don't like to hold the inventory back. If our guests want to come travel with us and the availability is there, we want to book them. So there really is no intention to hold back any inventory. We'll continue to raise prices in the high-demand areas and grow our yields over time.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Okay, great. Can you maybe give us a data point or two on the repeat business? I know that's been a pretty core part of the story, and it sounds like it's gaining more traction. So is there a way to put some data around what part of the customer base is recurring versus new?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

Yes, sure. We continue to see a very high repeat business from our, say, legacy guests that have traveled with us previously. If you look at the current year-to-date, we're -- close to 40% of our guests in the current year were repeat customers. That's been pretty consistent to kind of fluctuate in the mid-30%s to 40% or so. And we would expect that to continue moving forward. We do anticipate as we add inventory to continue to leverage more and more new guests, and as those guests join the fold, they'll become repeat customers in the following years. But all in all, our guests tend to, once they travel with us, repeat several times over.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just as we think about the new blue water vessel you guys have announced for -- recently announced for 2021, is there any -- as you kind of budget that out, has there been any increase in the construction costs or anything associated with the development just based on general inflation?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

When we look at the cost of each of our vessels, we look at it at any given moment in time. And what I mean by that is the design of the vessel, the cost of the materials certainly fluctuates as you move forward. So the design of this vessel for 2021 has not yet been finalized. So it's hard for me to answer that question because we're not building something that's exactly the same to what we've already built. Obviously, we have not decided that as of yet. So once we know the design of the vessel, we can certainly talk to what the build cost will be, we are always looking for ways to lower the cost of what we're doing from a capital perspective. So we'll continue to explore opportunities to do that. And once we finalize where we're building this vessel, the size of the vessel, we'll certainly get back to you with what our expectations would be on cost.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Okay. Very good. Thanks guys.

Craig Felenstein

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from George Kelly with Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So just to start, National Geographic now has a new owner. Wondering if that means anything to your agreement or -- and if you've had any kind of past experience with Disney, have you worked with them much before?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

The agreement itself would not be impacted by the overall, any kind of change with regards to National Geographic. I'm obviously not going to comment on anything with regards to what's going to happen with that asset, but from our perspective, our agreement with National Geographic holds true, and most importantly, the relationship has been around with National Geographic for us since 2004. It's a relationship that's been fostered and extended over time, and we don't see any reason why that would change moving forward. So Sven wants to give a little more color.

Sven Lindblad

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning. I can only imagine that the acquisition of Fox more broadly, which obviously incorporates National Geographic, has if anything, very exciting implications because, of course, Disney is involved in the entertainment business, in the movie business, in the -- well, they have cruise ships and such. And so -- and they have a huge network and so it would seem to me that one and one equals three here.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Great. That's helpful. Interesting. And then, a couple other quick ones. You mentioned that the Venture start-up costs will impact with the fourth quarter, can you quantify that?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Yes, some of it does relate to timings. So I'm not going to get too specific on it. It would definitely be in the low single digits in terms of millions of dollars, probably $1 million or $2 million depending on the timing of when we ultimately get through some of the launch protocols that we have to go through. But what you're going to see in the fourth quarter of this year, before it launches is, you're going to certainly have some costs related to hiring the crew and training the crew in anticipation of the operations. You're going to have cost related to -- non-capitalizable costs related to the vessels, such as inventories and things of that nature, so those things will roll through predominantly in the fourth quarter and we haven't finalized exactly what that would be, but my guess is, it will be somewhere around $2 million or so.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Okay. So $2 million all-in and that's all included, though, in guidance. That's not something that you're adjusting out of guidance?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Correct, but when you look at the year-on-year growth or year-on-year change versus fourth quarter a year ago, you have two negatives going out of the quarter, right. So you have losses associated with the Venture, because you have the start-up costs and not a whole lot of revenue in the quarter, because there's not a whole lot of itineraries in the quarter and then you have the changes in the revenue recognition policy. So those two things create a year-on-year hurdle, certainly on top of the drydock timing in which this year has some more additional days in Q4.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then new capacity -- talking about new capacity on -- in your prepared remarks; just wondering if you have seen any kind of pricing shift? Is it becoming more competitive on 2019 and 2020 bookings?

Sven Lindblad

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Sven, here. We have not seen anything material that is having an effect on pricing. It's interesting, because certainly there are people out there that have prices that are lower, but I'm absolutely convinced and that's certainly borne itself out to-date and I would imagine -- and I really believe it will continue to do so in the future, that at the end of the day, people who are doing this kind of a thing like going to Antarctica or going to the Arctic or the Galapagos, any number of places, are viewing it as a once-in-a-lifetime experience, which they ultimately will repeat, but at the time of doing it and I think they are very, very, very cognizant of what represents the greatest likelihood for them to have a remarkable experience. And so we have not seen a negative effect as it relates to other people's pricing. And we have -- certainly have been lowering our prices or adjusting our prices downward to compensate for any anticipated affect.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then last question from me. You mentioned some shorter destination or shorter itineraries to attract different customers. Do you expect that to have much of an impact on yields or any kind of your operating metrics for next year?

Sven Lindblad

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Well, there are a couple of reasons, just to be clear for doing this. Number one, I'll just give you an example, like the new shorter itinerary that we produce for the Galapagos Island, so it's like four days on the ship and then three or -- in certain instances, three days or four days on land. So in fact you're funneling more people through the ship and you're also getting a benefit from the value on land. So in fact, in aggregate, if that proves to be an increasing model, you will as a consequence increase value as a result. In certain instances, we are producing these shorter trips in what we would call shoulder seasons, where they're going between prime areas, and so that has an effect on being able to add value to what otherwise would be a softer period by just rejiggering or reconfiguring. The main reason though, for doing this is, it's a very, very interesting vehicle to bring new people into the fold, who can try something that they might not otherwise try, because it's maybe too long or in total, more money than they wish to spend at that time before they fully understand what the implications are. So it has a multitude of components to it that we believe will not only add value in the short term, but certainly in the long term.

George Kelly

Analyst · Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Greg Pendy with Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Greg Pendy

Analyst · Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just -- can you remind us, I guess, with the decision to go ahead in 2021 with sort of a 10th vessel, can you tell us how you are looking at the world from a build versus buy, I guess, given the fact that Natural Habitat seems to be showing some momentum? Thanks.

Craig Felenstein

Analyst · Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Sure. Thanks for the question, Greg. So, we are -- I would say when it comes to our growth opportunities, are relatively agnostic. We are looking at all avenues of growth, whether it would be organic build opportunity from a vessel perspective where we see additional opportunities to capture more demand with additional capacity. We are also looking at buying vessels that are out there in the public space, if there is an opportunity to buy a vessel at a attractive valuation and make it into our own. At the same time, we're looking at M&A opportunities. As Sven touched upon, we have not been quiet about our desire to continue to expand the business both in terms of scale on the marine side, but also any kind of business that would augment our existing growth opportunity on that marine side. So I wouldn't say we're focused on one versus the other, but we're looking at anything and everything and for ways to increase the growth opportunities that we have over the next several years.

Greg Pendy

Analyst · Sidoti. Please go ahead.

That's helpful. And then just one other follow-up. Could you just speak to other revenues? I guess, it was a bit light year-over-year despite the higher occupancy and additional ship. Is there anything there, any to look at, or anything that maybe pressure that a bit?

Craig Felenstein

Analyst · Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Yes, we think the other revenues, what that encompasses -- it encompasses items like extension revenues, folks that add stuff on to the existing trips, encompasses stuffs like insurance revenue when people take insurance on upcoming travel, and cancellations revenues that happen when people do cancel and ultimately don't have insurance. It's really -- there's no real -- I would say no real reason to when it goes up or down in any given quarter, it tends to have fluctuations throughout the course of the year. Sometimes they don't mirror prior years; sometimes it changes due to the itineraries [ph] we are offering in the timing of certain voyages. So I wouldn't read anything into that. It is something that we keep an eye on, but it is not something that I would say would drive a change of results year-on-year dramatically for the full year.

Greg Pendy

Analyst · Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

I'm showing no further questions. This concludes our question-and-answer session. This also concludes our conference call for today. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.