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Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 12, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Drew Industries Incorporated 2015 Fourth Quarter Year-End Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instruction will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference Ms. Renee Ketels. Ma’am, please begin.

Renee Ketels

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Drew Industries 2015 fourth quarter and year-end conference call. I’m Renee Ketels with Lambert Edwards, Drew’s Investor Relations firm. And I am joined on the call today by members of Drew’s management team, including Jason Lippert, CEO and its Director; Scott Mereness, President; and David Smith, CFO. Management will be discussing fourth quarter and year-end results in just a moment. But first, they have asked me to inform you that certain statements made in today’s conference call regarding Drew Industries and its operations may be considered forward-looking statements under the securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, the Company cautions you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond the Company’s control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in the Company’s earnings release and its Annual Report on Form 10-K and in its other filings with the SEC. The Company disclaims any obligation or undertaking to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements are made, except as required by law. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jason Lippert. Jason?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

Thank you, Renee. And thank you everybody for joining us on the call today. We are pleased to announce another quarter of solid earnings growth with consolidated net sales in the fourth quarter of 2015 of $334 million 16% higher than the fourth quarter of 2014. The RV industry had another banner year with a near record of 374,200 units. As it continues to inch closer towards our peak year, in 2006, when the industry hit almost 400,000 units. Our calendar year 2015 consolidated net sales were $1.4 billion, reflecting an 18% growth rate for 2015. We are also pleased with our RV content growth for travel trailers and fifth-wheels as we saw our trailing 12-month average move to $2,987 from $2,816 per unit in the prior-year. And content per motorhome increased for trailing 12-months to an average of $1,810 from $1,602 per unit in the prior year. January consolidated net sales came in strong at approximately $127 million, pointing to continued market share and content growth in both new and existing products. OEM backlogs are strong, dealer sentiment is high, consumer confidence is high, and dealer inventories appear to be balanced. All these fundamentals we believe point to a strong industry foundation for the coming quarters. The most asked question we get today is how is the industry doing? The best way to answer the question is while we are nearing prior peaks, the fact is, there are OEMs and dealers who are adding new capacity. That says everything about the OEM and dealer confidence and the health of the industry. Looking back on the fourth quarter, we continue to grow sales through market share and content improvement, which for the year was one of the highest content growth years on record. We gained traction with lean programming, we…

David Smith

Analyst

Thank you, Jason. Good day to everyone on the call. In my prepared comments, I will first give a further overview of the full-year 2015 results; second, provide a few specific thoughts about the 2015 fourth quarter; and finally, highlight a few things with respect to December 31, 2015, balance sheet. As Jason highlighted in his comments, for calendar year 2015, our sales grew in excess of 18% to just over $1.4 billion in sales, and a net sales growth of more than $200 million over 2014, and making 2015 the sixth consecutive year of consolidated net sales growth of more than $100 million. Also as mentioned, this establishes a new annual sales record for Drew. Further, the five-year CAGR for Drew’s net sales growth is nearly 16% with sales doubling from the level experienced in 2011. Sales growth in 2015 was aided by macroeconomic conditions, primarily in the form of lower unemployment rate, lower gas prices and available credit for both dealers and RV buyers. In 2015, retail unit sales of fifth-wheels and total RVs is estimated to have reached 312,000 units; this is a year-over-year increase of 12%. Drew has positioned its business to benefit from product changes and emerging trends in the RV industry, as well as adjacencies inside the RV segment. This includes actions that drive increased content for RV such as new products, products with enhanced functionality for RV owners and Furrion distribution partnership. Also investment via acquisitions remains an important part of the Drew strategy, driving influx of exciting new products, terrific new people and a wealth of new ideas into our Company. In 2015 and early 2016, we completed two investments in the marine furniture business as well as additional investment in school bus windows, both those products and features enable us to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Kathryn Thompson from Thompson Research Group. Your line is open.

Wenjun Xu

Analyst

Good morning. This is Wenjun sitting in for Kathryn. My first question is regarding January sales. In your estimation, how much of January sales growth was a function of historically warmer weather versus better core demand?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

It’s been different every year, Wenjun. I think this year, we looked at it, and the sales were approximately the same; weather wasn’t too much of an issue last year. So, I just think the simple answer is no real impact.

Wenjun Xu

Analyst

And what are your expectations for core end-market growth for your RV and then manufactured housing industry in 2016?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

For core products?

Wenjun Xu

Analyst

Yes, core end-market, core products.

Jason Lippert

Analyst

Yes. So, core products, we anticipate continued market share gains; I mean, we’re always working on that. We’re always working to bolster content on existing products. People think content and sometimes they are thinking new products and products that don’t exist that we are in development on. But, in a lot of cases, we are working on content improvement to existing products. So, the more products we have, the more products we can work to improve features and benefits on and improve content with those products. So, it’s a focus; I can’t say how much it’s going to be. We just know that we’re charging forward everyday with improvements to core products.

Wenjun Xu

Analyst

And then, my last question is regarding the aluminum and steel cost. Can you better help clarify to what degree lower aluminum and steel contributed to margin growth in the quarter, and when do comps start to equalize in this year?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

Well, what we can tell you, because there are so many moving parts, the materials portion of the Q4 was a significant portion of the improvement. But we had other things like product mix, fifth-wheels were up; and many times fifth-wheels are up in a given quarter, our margins and profitability are typically better because there is just more content in the fifth-wheels. So, there is higher-end furniture, higher-end windows, more slide-outs, bigger chassis, heavier axles. So, mix played a part of it. We’ve got aftermarket that’s a continuing moving part there where our margins are higher as we keep talking about, but we’ve restructured plans over the last year. Last year, we were moving three substantial facilities; we were moving doors from the Goshen to Elkhart into a brand new plant in January. In December, we moved furniture. We moved a few different product lines and we didn’t have that this year. So, there’s lots of moving parts. But like I said, materials were a significant portion and all these other factors play part and parcel to that.

Scott Mereness

Analyst

Wenjun, this is Scott. From a comp standpoint, when you look at Q4 this year versus Q4 last year, we definitely had some headwinds that we noted Q4 last year due to aluminum commodities. And then, when you look at the tailwinds in Q4, comps would be favorable for Q1, Q2, partially for Q3 of 2016, so that you would see favorable comps for the first 2.5 quarters get into...

Wenjun Xu

Analyst

Okay, that’s really helpful. That’s all my questions for today. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Stember from C.L. King. Your line is open.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Could you talk a little bit more about the mix shift? I know that the last few quarters up until this quarter, we had seen a little bit more of a pronounced shift away from fifth-wheels, and it seems like it came back in the fourth quarter. Has that continued into January? And maybe just give some broad comments about the overall shift that we’ve been seeing. And I know that there is younger families coming into the market. And just maybe talk about that trend and what you saw in January as well?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

There is so many different types of units out there, you could get really, really super granular on the mix conversation. But what I’d say looking at it from 50,000 feet is, we’re looking at fifth-wheels versus trailers for the most part; and Q2 and Q3, fifth-wheels were down a little bit from 2014 and Q4, fifth-wheels were up a little bit. All-in-all, if you look at 2015 numbers, the fifth-wheels were off just a little bit, travel trailers were up accounting for the total of 5% increase in units, year-over-year from ‘15 to ‘14. So, I guess the expectation is for this year that we don’t expect seismic shifts in the mix. We expect it to be similar and maybe gradual changes from what we’ve seen over the last couple of years. We’re definitely paying attention to it and there is certainly more of a focus today on entry level units. Entry level units are we feel what keep the new buyers coming and more units being sold every year that’s definitely helping the cause. But it’s not something to the point where it’s transforming the way we look at margins and -- from that perspective.

Scott Mereness

Analyst

Scott, one more quick comment. Jason, mentioned a lot of the new organic products and even acquired products that we’re selling. I think it’s worth noting that $171 -- or I’m sorry, $171 per vehicle content growth for 2015 was the highest of our last four years. And I think it’s important for everybody to understand that a big part of our growth over the next few years, and we’ve been talking about this for the big part of our future growth is going to continue coming from content growth. And that’s what we do with the business. The industry might have a little bit of headwind due to the fifth-wheel mix, and that certainly affects us but we’re going to continue playing our game and continue growing content. I think the fact that it was at the highest number in the last four years is a tribute to what we’ve been able to do to continue growing content and finding new products and acquisitions to continue to leverage that growth.

Scott Stember

Analyst

And just two quick follow-up questions and I’ll jump back into queue. Maybe Dave, just talk about the legal and environmental charge in the quarter. Would you characterize that as being one-time in nature? And then maybe Jason or Scott, just talk about where you stand with the international opportunity, notably with the slide-out mechanism which seems to be gaining some traction in Europe?

David Smith

Analyst

Thanks, Scott. I think with respect to the environmental issue, this is at a site that really predates our ownership and monitoring that site for a while. And so, we frankly don’t expect this to occur in large-scale across the Company but this was something I think we feel is relatively isolated. I think that really addresses the environmental part of it. And then as it relates to the legal settlement -- a business our size things do happen. We do think these were sort of out of the ordinary. But again, with a business that’s as big as ours and with the growth that we continue to have, it’s possible we may have some things but these really did stand out for us as not being in the normal course.

Jason Lippert

Analyst

And on the international slide-out theme, Scott. It’s still a little bit slow going but we’re talking to more and more customers; we’re going to more and more shows. So, the slid out is getting more exposure. We’ve got two versions of slide-out over there now, which is different than 2014. So we’ve got a couple of different options that the manufacturers are preferring over there and we’re -- the process of making the pitch; it’s a process of getting the run prototypes and eventually production units. But it feels like it’s going to continue to go and grow and we will just keep watching it. But it’s going to be a slow process because like we’ve talked about in the past, they don’t do any slide-outs over there now. So, the couple of customers we have that are doing it, they are excited about it but they are going very slow because they want to make sure that they don’t encounter any problems or issues that they are not aware of not having run them before. And they want to make sure that there’s good acceptance into the market by the retail customer and the dealers; we’re still optimistic.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tristan Thomas from Sidoti and Company. Your line is open.

Tristan Thomas

Analyst

Two quick questions. Can you maybe just give a timeframe of the time it takes you to introduce new product and when you begin to see aftermarket sales?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

A new product to aftermarket sales…?

Tristan Thomas

Analyst

Yes, their typical runway.

Jason Lippert

Analyst

It depends -- on something like an awning, when we introduce that, the product needs to get out into the field and it needs to get worn and beat up before someone calls us for our replacement part, which would be classified as an aftermarket sale. Other things like new furniture we design, if it’s cool enough, we can take it to aftermarket right now because people are trading in used units and looking for new furniture and new mattresses. And we make both of those things. So, when we come up with new products like that that are upgrades to something they are already using that can be more generic in nature for a specific part like a slide-out or -- a new slide-out or a new awning or something that’s got parts that are unique to Lippert than our LCI, then we have to wait for those parts to wear out in the field verses other things that are more generic where we can replace another brand’s product with ours because it fits in the same hole more or less.

Tristan Thomas

Analyst

Could you maybe just provide a rough estimate of what something like sway control or leveling would add per RV?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

Yes. So, in the comments I was alluding to about $50 million in potential for the Sway Command, the sway control, the anti-sway control that we’ve developed. And we’re the only ones out there with it. It exists in Europe and Australia, so it’s proven there. And towing can be scary in high winds and other types of events where the trailer is going to sway and why wouldn’t you want a device that helps make that process of pulling or towing a trailer more comfortable. You are seeing a lot of safety devices come out like that in autos now. So, we think that it will be easily identifiable; and for the money, people will be interested in having it. And we’re having good success right out of the chute with it. And on the travel trailer leveling, we’re saying about $250 million in opportunity. Our fifth-wheel leveling that we launched a few years ago is about $50 million opportunity. And as, fifth-wheels on the total market are 25% of the total global market and trailers are the rest. So, we’re actually hitting the biggest part of the leveling opportunity with the trailers. We just have to get it out there and do the product shelves and make sure everybody understands what it is. And we think it will be accepted. The consumers and the dealers already are waiting for it. So, now, it’s just a matter of getting the OEMs to buy into it; and the products ready and we’re excited about it.

Scott Mereness

Analyst

Tristan, those two products would be close to about $1,000 per vehicle and content on the travel trailers side.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Moore from CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

I appreciate all the color. And I think you’ve given a lot already in terms of content for RV growth, but it’s worth digging into a little bit I think, given the acceleration particularly this year over the last two. Maybe just call out some of the key products that are driving that particularly in the most recent quarters; how much of that is Furrion; and is low to mid single-digit growth the new norm or at least the new target as we look out for the next year or two?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

I can say that axles, awnings, Furrion, those make up a pretty big chunk of the difference there. But we’ve been focused on innovating products for a long time and we just -- in this call here, we’re talking about sway control, we’re talking about leveling, we’re talking about myRV, which is the home automation system that’s gaining popularity. So there’s a lot of exciting products that we’re out there working on right now to develop some big content. So, we mentioned the Furrion appliances that will launch later this year with a few hundred million dollar opportunity there. So, there’s some significant content coming available for us that if we do what we do and drive decent market share for this components and products, it looks really good for us.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Very helpful. And just switching gears a little on the gross margin side, improvement a bit stronger than I think we’d anticipated at least. Historically, Q4 has been typically a little bit seasonally light in terms of revenue and absorption that’s changed a little bit. Is that still the case; are the types of margins we saw in Q1 sustainable, if not potentially modestly improvable over the next quarter or two as we get into the seasonally stronger part of the year?

David Smith

Analyst

I think that we’ve seen -- the last year Q4 was relatively strong and I don’t know, it seems like it’s more of a trend, there is more -- we’re definitely seeing a little bit more level loading throughout the year. Everything changed after ‘08 and ‘09. We kind of started over with when are the sales going to come and what are the times of year that we’re going to see the peaks and the valleys? And after six years, it’s really started to level out and Q4 has become a little bit more dominant than it was four or five years ago. So, I don’t know if that answered your question but we’re definitely seeing some more level loading with product which helps all of us out; it helps the dealers, it helps the OEMs, it helps the suppliers.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

That does help. I guess I was trying to get at the sustainability of the margins at least in the near-term as we move into higher absorption quarters?

David Smith

Analyst

It’s a focus. We’ve been saying for probably five or six years, we get asked the question, can we get back to the prior historical margins? And our answer has been yes. And we’re going to do that through focusing on ID related products. We’re going to do it focusing on the adjacent industries. We’re going to do it focusing on the aftermarket products and continuing to build content and innovative products that have higher margins that are unique that when we are not fighting 8 or 10 other competitors on. So, we feel we can continue to sustain.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Very helpful. Last one -- go ahead.

Scott Mereness

Analyst

Like we told -- I was just going to say, like we told Wenjun for the next 2.5 quarters in terms of Q1 and Q2 and a little bit into Q3 from a gross margin standpoint, steel and aluminum will be favorable there from a comp perspective.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

That’s great color; I appreciate it. Lastly, obviously Jason, your prepared remarks still very confident and enthusiastic. In terms of dealers and inventory levels, at this point would you say dealers need to play a little bit of catch-up after retail growth outstripped wholesale over the last quarter or two or dealers -- as they look out to ‘16, would you expect wholesale to be in line with retail growth, play a little catch-up perhaps just that dynamic if there’s anything you might be able to relay?

Jason Lippert

Analyst

It obviously can’t keep going that way for the long-haul. So, one would expect that there is a little bit of catch-up. We’ve got a lot of different dynamics going on. Canada’s going to continue to stay depressed for the near-term, so they are not going to be loading up on inventory anytime soon, even though the early reports on the First Canadian Show in Calgary were much more solid than anticipated. But you just look at what the dealers are doing out there. The dealers are -- they are buying up stores, they are making them better, they are adding onto their own facilities, they are adding service space, and they are investing more in their businesses than I’ve seen in the long time. And the OEMs are doing the same thing. So again, going back to the early comments in the speeches, we are watching these guys all invest a lot of money back in their businesses, specifically for capacity and service. And it’s just a really good thing that’s going on. It gives everybody a lot of confidence that the people that are really in control of the visibility for what’s happening out there with RV sales, they feel very confident and confident enough to invest pretty heavily in the businesses right now, as it respects the capacity and the service growth.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]

Jason Lippert

Analyst

Well, if there is no more questions at this time, we just want to tell everybody thanks for joining on the call. And we look forward to talking to you at the end of the first quarter when we give our first quarter results for 2016. Thank you very much.