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LendingClub Corporation (LC)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 27, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending the LendingClub Corp Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. My name is Matt and I will be your moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to our host Sameer Gokhale, Head of Investor Relations for LendingClub. Sameer, please go ahead.

Sameer Gokhale

Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon. Welcome to LendingClub second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Scott Sanborn, CEO; and Tom Casey, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website. On the call, in addition to questions from analysts, we will also be answering some of the questions that were submitted for consideration via email. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to our competitive advantages and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, platform, volume, future products and services and future business and financial performance. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and our most recent Forms 10-K as filed with the SEC, as well as our subsequent filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our upcoming Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Thanks, Sameer. Good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to report another quarter of record revenue, earnings and loan volume, all exceeding our guidance. Tom will give you the details shortly, but let me share a few highlights. Revenue grew 61% year on year, outpacing originations growth of 41%, and demonstrating the power of our combined marketplace and portfolio revenue streams. And our net income, excluding a onetime tax benefit quadrupled year over year. Our digital marketplace bank model is proving to be resilient and we are reiterating our guidance for the full-year. We're very pleased with our results in the first half, but as we noted last quarter, the macro environment is shifting. The fed has become more hawkish in their battle with inflation, which has implications for our business and for the economy overall. In the face of these changes, we are confident that we have positioned the company well to capitalize when we see quality growth opportunities, while remaining mindful and prudent with respect to risks. So, let me talk about what we're seeing and what we expect across the marketplace in terms of borrower demand, credit performance, and investor demand? Credit card balances are now back above pre pandemic levels, and credit card rates are rising. This is driving strong borrower demand for personal loans. Accordingly, we grew loan volume by 19% order of reporter while simultaneously increasing our marketing efficiency. We expect borrower demand to remain strong in Q3 and come down in Q4 due to typical seasonality. Switching to credit, which we highlight in our presentation on pages 16 and 17. Our loans are currently performing very well on both an absolute and relative basis. And our most recent season vintages, including those from the back half of 2021 are continuing to perform above expectations…

Tom Casey

Analyst

Thanks Scott. And good afternoon, everyone. Now that Scott took you through our thinking about the second half of the year, I'll be reviewing our financial results for the second quarter and then turn to our outlook for the rest of the year. I'll be referencing some slides in our earnings presentation. So, please have them handy. As Scott mentioned, we reported record revenue of $330 million, which was up 61% year-over-year, on origination growth of 41%. And if you please turn to Page 15 of our earnings presentation, you'll see a reported net income of $182 million, included a $135 million benefit from the release of our valuation allowance on deferred tax assets. Excluding the tax benefit, net income reached another record of $47 million in the quarter, which was 4x greater than a year ago. Our strong earnings reflected growth in both marketplace revenue and increased interest income revenue, as we retain more loans and drove a substantial improvement in our operating efficiency. Now let's turn to Page 11 and let's talk about our Marketplace business. Marketplace revenue group 36% year-over-year, driven by 29% growth in the volume of loans sold through the marketplace. On the next page, you can see our recurring revenue stream of interest income for our portfolio increased 179% year-over-year, as average balances grew through 64% or up 116% when excluding PPP loans. During the quarter, we retained nearly 27% of consumer loan originations, which was above our targeted range of 20% to 25%. Similar to Q1 we again deliberately chose to reinvest earnings and excess capital into retaining more originations as these loans generate significantly more earnings over time compared to loans sold through the marketplace. On pace 13, you will see that the net interest margin increased to 8.7% from 5.5% a…

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

All right, thanks Tom. Before we turn it over to questions, I did want to share some bittersweet news. As you may have seen together with our earnings announcement today, we shared that our CFO, Tom Casey is planning to retire. Tom has had a long and distinguished career in finance capped by his journey here at LendingClub, overseeing our transformation into the profitable marketplace bank you have in front of you today. And in fact, it's partly because of the great financial footing we're on that Tom is comfortable that now is the right time for him to retire. I'd add that during the six years we've been together, Tom has done so much for the company overseeing our return to scale. Built an incredible team, helped oversee our transformation into a marketplace bank with the acquisition of Radius modernized our systems and reporting and helped shape and deliver on the company strategy. So he's been an exceptional leader, partner, strategist, and cheerleader. So his impact on me and the company can't be overstated. The great news is we found a fantastic hire Andrew LaBenne. Hopefully you've all seen his background in the press release, suffice it to say he comes extremely highly recommended with fantastic experience. That's many well respected organizations, and we think he's got the right combination of experience to lead us in our next chapter. He's also a great guy, looking forward to introducing all of you to him once he officially takes over on September 1st. Further note that we plan an extended transition, I'll have benefit of 2 CFOs, at least Tom in a support capacity as we exit the year. Anything to add, Tom?

Tom Casey

Analyst

Thanks, Scott. It has truly been an honor to be part of this incredible journey. This last six years, I was drawn to LendingClub by both its mission and its potential. It it's really been one of the highlights of my career to help a company with so much potential truly coming to its own. We're better set than arrow to help we're better set than to help our 4 million and growing member base succeed. We have also transformed this business financially. LendingClub is 15 years old, but we're just at the beginning of our most exciting chapter. And, I truly believe that LC is positioned to win as an advocate for consumers looking to find savings and pay less on their debt and also deliver strong returns to our shareholders many, many years to come. With that let's open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Bill Ryan with Seaport Research. Your line is now open.

Bill Ryan

Analyst

Thanks and good afternoon, and wanted to extend a congrats, Tom, for your retirement. So wanted to go -- wanted to talk a little bit about this transition period. You talked about it on the Q1 call. When we spoke in June, you kind of brought it up. How should we expect that to play out? You discussed it in terms of its impact on volume in the second half of the year. But what are some of the aspect, other aspects in the P&L that we might expect? Is it kind of the take rate, maybe a little bit less on the margin on your retained loans? And then secondly, related to that, what is kind of the benchmark that we are looking at in terms of peak rates that investors use as their benchmark for their pricing and loan rates that they are looking for? Thanks.

Tom Casey

Analyst

Okay. So couple of couple things in there, Bill. Let me kind of break them down. You're right. We have been talking about this for a while and rates have even moved more than we thought, even just last time we chatted about it. So the Fed is moving quickly. And then basically what we are saying is, as Scott mentioned in prepared remarks that forward curve is moving faster than what we think is prudent to move coupons. So we are being very, very deliberate. There's a -- we're moving with speed, but we are being very deliberate to make sure that we don't make credit mistakes along the way. Having said that, as far as the impact on the rest of the income statement, what you're starting to see is, the balance sheet and income statement working together. This quarter, we are very encouraged to see our marketing expense go down, because there is a lot of demand and we are able to select among the best borrowers and therefore deliver the best credit we can in this environment. So you can see that our efficiency is improving, and we would expect that to continue in this type of transitional period. Obviously, we mentioned also we are working on other fixed expenses. We already have delayed some hiring to be reflective of the current environment. As far as the details, keep in mind that all investors are not the same. We have a number of banks on our platform that are not subject to the same level of market rate changes. Deposit rates have not moved very much at all. And so, they are continuing to buy at similar levels that they were there before. In fact, some have actually increased their order book, as coupons are moving…

Bill Ryan

Analyst

And just kind of related to that, when interest rates do kind of hit their peak, what's kind of the lag, is it two months, three months that you kind of anticipate before it fully catches up a little bit longer than that, just based on your history?

Tom Casey

Analyst

Well, I don't think we've had history where we've moving at 75 basis with each fed move, but I think that clearly there's a period of time where we will catch up. I think -- it's a little premature to think about exactly when that would happen, but we are prepared for that. That’s not something that will be a shock to us.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

And we can talk a little bit about bill where we are today, right? Before today, the prime rate had moved about 150 basis points. Credit cards have already moved 130. So if you look at the average credit card rates, they've already absorbed most of that up through today's fed move. And so as credit cards move, we can move and still provide the exact same value to our consumer, so we were providing before. So that's…

Tom Casey

Analyst

And in a fixed rate.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Yeah, into a lower fix rate environment. So that gives you a sense of kind of pretty much all of the major issuers had moved as of today to adjust to the, the prior Fed moves.

Operator

Operator

The next question is for the line of David Chiaverini with Wedbush Securities.

David Chiaverini

Analyst

Starting off with the valuation allowance, the reversal of it, and how that adds to your capital base. How much more capacity does this give you to retain loans? Over the past few quarters, you've retained 25%, 27%. Could we see 30% to 35% retained with this additional capital?

Tom Casey

Analyst

So, I think, a couple things, what's happened inside the reserve release is that when we came into the acquisition of Radius, we had a very large net operating loss, since that time, we were generating quite a bit of taxable income. And so the net operating loss has actually come down and we've actually created more deferred tax timing differences, but still a deferred tax asset. So with the -- with this release, we're releasing the reserve on the deferred tax assets in total, the deferred tax asset had two pieces, the NOL and the timing difference. And so we do get capital benefit of about $85 million in the quarter. And that will continue to increase as the NOL continues to burn off and it translates into a timing difference. So we feel like we've got additional capital available for us. As far as increasing the percentages, we've given a guide of 20 to 25, we think that's we've been able to go above that, but I'll be really clear. It's about capital deployment. If we have the capital, we will deploy it. We are also though, are balancing against the profitability. We want to be both a growth company as well as a profitable company. And you can see that we're very, very happy with the first half. And we're looking forward to the second half still being profitable. Now we need the both, we need the earnings and we need the capital to be able to deploy, but we’d make no mistake. We want to continue to increase the percentage of retention that we can in order to increase the amount of recurring revenue we have off the balance sheet. We think that's a competitive advantage and the faster we can increase that the better. And it's about trade-offs and managing both the revenue growth, the earnings growth and the balance sheet growth, all those together.

David Chiaverini

Analyst

Got it. That makes sense. And then shifting to the implied lower originations in the third quarter, it sounds like it's more of a marketplace demand issue versus a consumer loan demand issue. And if that's the case of consumer loan demand is still strong, I'm assuming that it will enable you to be more selective with your underwriting and that credit quality could maintain this really strong clip, even if we do head into a recession next year.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Yes. That’s right. We are seeing, and you see it in the results, very strong borrower response rates, very strong borrower take rates. And as I talked about in my prepared remarks, we are leveraging that in addition to moving on coupons as credit cards rates move, we're also being selective with our credit to get more yield to investors by really kind of top grading the overall base we're pulling through. And we're able to do that while still seeing improvements in our efficiency in the marketing. So that is working in our favor.

David Chiaverini

Analyst

And then the last one for me is just on the deposit growth, which was very strong in the quarter, once again. And you mentioned about the high yield savings product being a key driver there. Can you talk about the outlook and the competitiveness of your rate versus others? And if we can expect to continue to see strong deposit growth here?

Tom Casey

Analyst

Yes, thanks. So we did have another good quarter deposits were up about $500 million, $600 million. We've been running at with quite a bit of cash in the first half of the year, over a billion dollars highlighted a couple things. We did start participating in the high yield saving market where we're continuing to do that. Even with that higher cost of funding growth we're still seeing very, very attractive NIM. This quarter actually NIM expanded to 8.7%, and that's really benefiting from the remix of our consumer loans. As far as going forward, I don't think we'll see the same level of the deposit growth in 3Q. We did prefund some of our deposit expectations for the year in the first half. We also are deemphasizing some of the banking as a service deposits that we announced last year. And so some of that will be coming off in the third quarter. And we had some unique situations with one of our union pension plans that had a large deposits. So expect the same level of growth in 3Q as we saw in 2Q. We continue to see great opportunity to fund and we’ll continue to see a remix of our deposits going forward, but we feel very good about our position.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Michael Perito with KBW. Your line is now open.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Hey guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start just on the credit outlook. We kind of have this interesting dynamic going on currently, and I'm sure you guys are seeing something similar where you have many of the banks and credit card companies commenting on kind of the good health of the consumer. But you have some of the other, like retailers, like Walmart commenting about seeing some cracks. And I have just kind of a two part question. I guess one, what's your view kind of the health of your customer today? And then secondly, you guys have been at this for quite a while with this unsecured personal lending product. I was wondering if you could maybe just remind us of some of your historical perspective in terms of, where your customers kind of rank this credit relative to maybe other costs they might have such as housing or cars or things of that nature, what your experience has been in terms of like credit priority, with your customer base? I know many of which are repeat customers. Some color on those items would be great.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

I'll start. So, core consumer, we are continuing to see as very strong, both the leading and the lagging indicators. Overall delinquency levels, as I mentioned, are well below pre-pandemic and our expectations. And other aspects such as prepayment levels remain elevated, which indicates they still have some cushion. Their bank balances are stable. So we feel quite good about the health of our core customer, again, higher income customer. So they are able to handle a little bit more of the overall inflationary pressure in the market. Now, we do have the benefit of seeing a broad range of customers, right? And so, while that's our core customer and represents all that we are holding on the balance sheet, as we have indicated before, about 15% of our issuance is to near prime. And there, overall, we feel good about the performance, but what -- if you pick up the magnifying glass and look, where you can see signs of payment stress would be where you would expect lower income, higher risk customers who are feeling it at the gas pump. They're feeling it at the grocery store. And so that's why our ability to really make changes to who we are offering loans to right now to kind of select the right part of the base is how we are managing that to drive the returns for investors. In terms of your question on payment hierarchy, both our data and independent data [TU] did a study within the last couple of years, puts personal loans in the payment hierarchy, right around or slightly above actually credit cards. And so, we do believe we have got a positive select with our customer base in that. They come to us because they are looking to improve their financial condition. And as we have shared in the past, this is something they view and they call themselves members in the club. They do come back over time. And so, they do value the relationship. And so that's where it falls. But, the way I just call out for those of you on the call who are familiar with how cards work, it's hard to compare cards and PL apples-to-apples just because there is different dynamics of portfolio. Just as an example cards about half of the balances are transactors, right? So, when you look at overall portfolio delinquency levels, they look artificially lower because half of the people pay them off every month. But when you actually look at delinquencies on people, carrying a balance are actually higher than person loans. So, we can go into that offline, if that's interesting for you.

Michael Perito

Analyst

No, that's helpful perspective. Certainly it's an interesting time for the consumer. So, I thank you for, for sharing that. Secondly, I wanted to ask just on the, variable marketing cost. I think historically, at one time or another, you guys have talked about that being in the 1.9% to 2% range of originations, over a period of time, it seems like there's been a few quarters now where you guys have been running below that. I'm just curious, is there anything to read into that or are you guys seeing better kind of -- word of mouth referral and lower and just less need for marketing to drive origination growth? Or is that something that just can jump around, and we're just in a period here where it's been a little bit lower on a relative basis?

Tom Casey

Analyst

Yeah, I think we've been running pretty efficiently -- really for referral quite some time, but really start to show itself with the bank. I'd say that when we came into the year, we told you we were going to invest in three things, right? Told you we were going to invest in new members growing balance sheet and our tech roadmap. And while we continue to be very, very pleased with our new member growth, what Scott said earlier, the demand and the fact that we're being very selective is driving efficiency in the marketing. It's just -- that's the model. So we are benefiting from that, but it gives us a competitive advantage if we wanted to reach for additional growth. But, we've been now sitting at 16, 17 for the last four quarters, we gave the guide of about 192. We knew that we would have some additional deposit marketing, for example. But obviously, we're pleased -- we're always trying to drive better results, but we think that right now this is feeling like the right level. Maybe we'll see a little more, but in other parts of the cycle, maybe we'll see us investing more, but this is best-in-class by far. And so if we want to dial up marketing or dial down marketing depending on the environment, that's -- we think that's a real competitive advantage for us.

Michael Perito

Analyst

And then just lastly for me, just on to follow-up on the deposit question and I apologize if I missed this, but do you guys have any kind of new or updated thoughts or stats around kind of customers that are utilizing your deposits? Are you seeing a lot of overlap between many of your lending customers at this time? Or is it still bringing in new faces to the cloud? How are you guys kind of viewing some of the successes you've had there as that portfolio has grown?

Tom Casey

Analyst

Yeah, not much to report there, and I think we've shared with you that this is one of the areas that we want to focus on, which is connecting folks that are borrowing from us with their primary checking account. We have been in industrializing the, the acquisition of radius and getting their pipes to be able to handle the scale. And that's something that we look forward to talking about in the future. But it is something that we think is an opportunity for us to further engage with our members as they all have checking accounts and savings accounts. And we think we can provide them with very attractive services and give them a fair rate on their money. And I think that's a -- that's up where we're going.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

But the high yield savings we're getting right now, that's really open market. Our core customer, we are enthusiastic and have a clear sense of what banking services would be value add to get specifically from LendingClub. But they're not going to be a big source of deposits, right? They're -- if their individual checking and savings balances are in the single digit thousands. So where we're going right now for funding is the open market.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Got it. Great. Scott, Tom. Appreciate it. Helpful. And Tom, I know we haven’t overlapped for long, but good luck and congratulations on your retirement.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Giuliano Bologna.

Giuliano Bologna

Analyst

Thank you. I guess from a first perspective, I'm curious if you're seeing any changes in buyer demand on the marketplace, and if that's shifted your buy box in the sense of what you're taking on your balance sheet, if that's or if that's impacted you, what happened this quarter where you kind dialed up attention. And then along the same lines or similar topic, I'm curious if the change in yield I would get it from a balance sheet perspective came down into the -- to about 14.2% was based almost a 100 basis points on a personal loan yield. If I looked at the presentation, the coupons down 50 basis points for the portfolio, I'm curious, what's driving that move, or if there is anything impacted that in the quarter.

Tom Casey

Analyst

Yes. A couple things. Clearly, the buyer demand is modulating like I said, folks that are not subject to changes in funding have different points of view than others that are more significant…

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

I'm sorry, Tom, and that plays out kind of on the credit spectrum. Meaning banks credit unions are less sensitive to the rate funding environment than call it an asset manager and so therefore where as we met indicated kind of that bank -- the bank paper demand is relatively strong because it's less influenced by the current environment.

Tom Casey

Analyst

Yes, that's right. And I think the other thing that we're also seeing is that with our ability to generate our own deposits allows us to go to hire quality credit as well. And so you're seeing that with lowered -- lower yields in our consumer portfolio, I mentioned that last quarter, you're seeing it again this quarter. You're going to see it again next quarter, because our ability to put on high quality loans in this environment are very attractive risk adjusted returns. So that's what you're seeing. Our ability to support our members, our ability to actually go up in the quality spectrum in this environment is really the result of all the work we've done to become the marketplace bank we are today. And that's a real competitive advantage for us. So our ability to create mix of product for investors that have different yields thresholds that's part of the real benefit of the marketplace and our full spectrum offering. And we're working very hard to meet the risk adjusted returns that our investors are seeking.

Giuliano Bologna

Analyst

That’s very helpful. And on a bit of a different topic, obviously have the detail on balance sheet. There will be some dangers, and I want to make sure I heard you correctly during prepared remarks. It sounds like what you were saying was the tax rates could remain roughly stable versus where it's been recently until the end of the year. And then it's going to move higher in 2023. I think you said somewhere in, like, I may have this wrong, 10% to 12% or somewhere in that zip code for the balance of the year, and then jumping up higher. Is that the right way to think about it or I think we…

Tom Casey

Analyst

I want to be crystal clear for everybody, the effective rate in the second half of 2022 will be approximately 10%. And the result of that deferred tax asset reserve we released will result in the effective rate for 2023, January 1st of 28%. So, that is obviously a big, big increase in our tangible book value, but it does increase our effective rate. Now, I don't believe we will be paying taxes for quite some time, but the accounting convention will decrease our effective rate.

Giuliano Bologna

Analyst

That's uh, perfect. That's very helpful. I wanted make sure I got that right, because it's something can move numbers around for a firm amount if you get the tax a little different there. Then when you think about retention, is there kind of an upper boundary in the near-term around the percentage of originations that you'd be willing to retain from a percentage perspective? Or is there any kind of -- do you have any sense of like how high you'd be willing to go if volumes came down a bit, or if it's more, really more capital driven? How much you are willing to retain?

Tom Casey

Analyst

I think you got to look at the notional dollar. The percentage itself is interesting, but it does vary based upon the seasonality of the individual quarter. This quarter we did $1 billion on $3.6 billion. So just around 26%, 27%. So, we feel like that was obviously just in coincidence, it’s the same number percentage last quarter, but we grew 20%. So, I really would focus on the notional. And from a notional dollar perspective, that's going to be driven by the amount of capital, the earnings to be able to handle the provision for CECL, funding levels as well. And so, all those things have to be considered. And we have been giving you I think consistently, we are motivated to hold more loans because they earn more, they earn 3x as much money. So, we see this as a great opportunity in this market to continue to build the balance sheet. Our ability to go to higher quality loans, still get risk adjusted returns that are very attractive, support our member base and position us for predictable, resilient earnings in 2023. We think that's a pretty good profile for the back half year. You'll see us continue to do that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. There are currently no further questions registered. [Operator Instructions]

Sameer Gokhale

Analyst

So while we wait for any additional questions in the queue, we just have a question, one question from a retail investor, who is asking about sort of the comparative environment with companies such as upstart, the pre-announce negative results and then contrasting it with LendingClub results for the second quarter, and why that -- it looks like there is a divergence between negative results from some companies and positive results from LendingClub. So, what's driving that? And can you talk about, what's going on in the environment comparatively?

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

So I think I'd just highlight a couple of unique aspects of our business. One is obviously the bank charter, which is both a vertical integration of the model and gives us a whole different income stream and interest income, that's a big contributor to the results. The second is, our focus is on a prime base, and within the prime base on the marketplace side, as we talked about last quarter, we've quite deliberately built up an investor base that we believe will be less sensitive to the rising rate environment. And so, you kind of see that in our Q2 results, the ability to deliver the loan growth. Now, those are -- and the third thing is we're continuing to see right now very strong credit performance. And so that builds investor confidence, especially at a time where there's some increasing anxiety about the direction of the economy. So --

Tom Casey

Analyst

I think those -- I think the only thing I would add is the scale with our 4 million members that drives a lot of flywheel on the marketing. Board members pays for members, and allows us to really differentiate on the marketing side. And frankly, our members perform better, so -- on a credit side as well. So we are building up that member base, is really have been 15 years in the making and one that we continue to prioritize, focus on that relationship we have with every --

Sameer Gokhale

Analyst

Well, it seems like we don't have any more questions in the queue, so thank you all for joining us on today's earnings call. And if you have any more questions free to reach out to the Investor Relations team. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the LendingClub second quarter 2022 earnings call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.