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Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 14, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Koppers Holdings Inc. Fourth Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call held on February 14, 2013. Throughout today’s conference all participants will be in a listen only mode. After the conference there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions). I will now like to hand the conference over to the Director, Investor Relations, Michael Snyder. Please go ahead, sir.

Michael Snyder

Management

Thanks Mark, and good morning everyone. Welcome to our fourth quarter earnings conference call. My name is Mike Snyder and I'm the Director of Investor Relations for Koppers. At this time, each of you should have received a copy of our press release. If you haven't, one is available on our website or you can call Rose Helenski at 412-227-2444 and we can either fax or e-mail you a copy. Before we get started, I'd like to remind all of you that certain comments made during this conference call may be characterized as forward looking under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements may be affected by certain risks and uncertainties, including risks described in the cautionary statement included in our Press Release, and in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In light of the significant uncertainties inherent in the forward-looking statements included in the Company's comments, you should not regard the inclusion of such information as a representation that its objectives, plans and projected results will be achieved. The Company's actual results could differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The Company assumes no obligation or update any forward-looking statements made during this call. References may also be made of certain non-GAAP financial measures. The Company has provided with the Press Release which is available on our website, reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial matters for the most directly comparable GAAP financials. I'm joined on this morning's call by Walt Turner, President and CEO of Koppers and Leroy Ball, our Chief Financial Officer. At this time I'd like to turn over the call to Walt Turner. Walt?

Walt Turner

Management

Thank you, Mike. And welcome, everyone to our 2012 fourth quarter conference call. I'd like to spend a few minutes providing a recap of our fourth quarter results before I turn it over to Leroy, who will provide additional fourth quarter and full year financial details for you. After that I would like to summarize a few of our major accomplishments this past year, before turning to 2013 and giving you of my thoughts and how I see the New Year progressing. Beginning with the fourth quarter, I mentioned on our last call that our expectations at that time were that we would finish the year with an adjusted EPS that was 10% to 15% higher than our 2011 adjusted EPS of $2.86. That expectation is translated into a $0.53 to $0.67 range of the EPS for the fourth quarter. I am happy to report that even without some sizable tax benefits that were recorded, we generated a fourth quarter EPS that was well within our projected range. With the tax benefits included, we finished the quarter with an adjusted EPS of $0.66, which was at the upper end of our range and significantly higher than our previous high as a public company of $0.44 in 2007. Sales for the fourth quarter were up 2%, driven by higher pricing for railroad products, higher volumes for utility products for our railroad and utility business and higher volumes of carbon materials and chemicals business. Our adjusted operating profit was $26.3 million for the fourth quarter, up 14% from last year’s fourth quarter adjusted operating profit of $23 million as higher profitability in the railroad utility products, combined with a recognition of escalated insurance recoveries, an excess cost of $1.2 million, more than offset lower results in our global carbon materials and chemical business. Our adjusted operating margin for the fourth quarter was 7%, compared to 6.2% for the fourth quarter of 2011. The 80 basis point increase was driven by the outstanding performance in the fourth quarter of our global railroad and utility products business, as well as our North American business as well as our Australian coal business exceeded prior year operating profits and margins. Overall, I am quite pleased with our fourth quarter results, given the continuing volatility in certain regions of the world, particularly in Europe and the impact that lower aluminum prices had had on smelter production levels in mature geographies where we enjoy high market shares. Achieving the highest fourth quarter net income and EPS in our history as a public company is an important accomplishment and is a tribute to the diversity of our geographic footprint, our products and our end markets. Leroy will now provide some additional detail on the quarter. After this review I will summarize our accomplishments for 2012, give you an update on our progress we are making on our margin improvement initiatives and provide some insights into what we are seeing for our end markets and outlook for 2013. Leroy?

Leroy Ball

Management

Thanks, Walt. Starting with the consolidated results, sales for the fourth quarter increased by 2% or $5.9 million to $374.9 million, compared to the prior year quarter due to a higher railroad and utility products sales driven by higher sales volume in the value added products. Sales for carbon materials and chemicals for the quarter were flat at higher sales volume for carbon black feedstock increased though offset lower sales volumes for carbon pitch and phthalic anhydride, due to reduced demand that was due impart to year-end inventory de-stocking by certain customers. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $33.6 million or $2.7 million higher than 2011 fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA of $30.9 million and adjusted EBITDA margins of 9% for the fourth quarter of 2012 compared favorably to adjusted EBITDA margins of 8.4% for the fourth quarter of 2011 after restating for discontinued operations for both periods. The higher margins were driven by significantly higher margins for railroad utility products due to higher contract pricing and higher sale volumes of value added products and $1.2 million of insurance recoveries in access of cost incurred during the quarter for the February 2012 pitch tank leak in Australia, with more than offset higher car cost and lower volumes for pitch and phthalic anhydride. Our tax expense as a percent of pretax earnings for the quarter was 25% compared to 46% on an adjusted basis in the prior year quarter, with the decrease in mainly to the unfavorable mix impact of European operating results in 2011 and certain discreet tax adjustments in 2012. For 2013, our expectations are that our effective rate would be in 35% to 36% range based upon our current expected mix of geographic earnings. Adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share for the fourth quarter of 2012 were $13.9…

Walt Turner

Management

Thanks, Leroy. I’d like now like to summarize a few of our achievements for the year 2012, which should set the tone for a stronger year in 2013. First, in terms of growth initiatives, we were able to complete the acquisition of a full business in Australia that will add up about $12 million to $15 million annually in revenues and be accretive to margins. We also entered into an agreement to build a 300,000 ton tar distillation plant in Jiangsu Province in China, which would generate $150 to million $200 million in annual revenues at favorable margins. We invested $10 million in initial funding of this project during the fourth quarter. The plant is expected to be fully operational by the middle of 2014. During the year we were also able to secure a large crosstie order in Brazil that we expect will continue and hopefully increase going forward. Second, after incurring operating losses in our existing Chinese operations just a few years ago, due to difficult market conditions, we have been able to significantly improve our profitability to the point that we are achieving meaningful operating profit contributions that tripled in 2012 from 2012. Although, the margins from Chinese operations are still below our margins in the mature markets, we expect that the upward trend in profitability and margins will continue going forward as this region becomes a larger part of our overall business. Third, 2012 was a best year in our history for sales and profitability for our railroad utility products business. We significantly improved our sales mix by increasing the volume of our value-added railroad products and our rail joint bar business generated results that were even stronger than in 2011. Additional factors were the positive impact of the Grenada closure, strong results from our Australian…

Operator

Operator

Yes of course. (Operator Instructions). Thank you. And the first question comes from Ivan Marcus from Keybanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

A couple of quick questions and, sort of you’re looking out a few years 2015, you said, 650 is the sort of the target right now. Now, you imply sort of 20% to 25% type of growth rate on the bottom line. With the first quarter being sort of down, would you expect to achieve that sort of growth rate or do you think it will be slower and more of a ramp up going into ‘14 - ‘15?

Walt Turner

Management

We’re continuing to see the double digit growth for 2013. We may not be, when you look at the sort of the five year projection that we started out with, with this 2015 goal, you could easily look at 20% per year but you will probably see now with the little more on the tail-end especially with the Chinese plant coming on screen mid-2014. It’s moving forward and still very confident with our projection Ivan.

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

And then on the margin improvement for the carbon material business, your improvement of margins, is that including or excluding sort of the abnormal charges that you had. So if you could exclude those, I think you said your margins are 9%, would you expect the improvement after that or off the lower number?

Walt Turner

Management

Off of that number.

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

And then you have several projects coming online in the Middle East and I expect and they sort of ramp up through ‘13 or ‘14 as you would. So would you sort of expect to see an acceleration in your total carbon material volumes as going to the back half of the year. That’s sort of how to think about it?

Walt Turner

Management

We are going to see a little heavier shipments in the second half of this year, as you just pointed out. The lease is continuing to increase production, We have got the margin smelter that’s ramping up. I think by the end of this year, they should have the margin smelter pretty much at full production. So because of that and other increases in production in that part of the world, so you will see a little heavier concentration in the last half of the year on the pitch demand.

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

And then Leroy, you a bunch of numbers out there. If you look at the carbon materials business and you just sort of consolidate everything you said into it, your sales were flat year-over-year. So was it volumes up, pricing down or could you just give me sort of the sales bridge of how you connected quarter-over-quarter?

Leroy Ball

Management

Fourth quarter ‘12 to ‘11?

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Yes.

Leroy Ball

Management

With pricing up, volumes down, volume in pitch down, I think volumes in carbon black feedstock up and generally pricing up in most major product categories.

Ivan Marcus - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay so if you look at the total thing, pricing would be up, volume will be down and was there any impact on FX?

Leroy Ball

Management

Small, very small.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Daniel Rizzo from Sidoti & Co. Daniel Rizzo - Sidoti & Co.: You indicated that one of the reasons why things aren’t going to be so great in the first quarter was because of a higher tax rate. Is there a number we should be using tomorrow?

Leroy Ball

Management

I think we had mentioned between 35% and 36%. Daniel Rizzo - Sidoti & Company: And that should be relatively standard for the rest of the year?

Leroy Ball

Management

That's what we would expect for the year, yes. Any discreet items that we might record throughout the year.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Ian Zaffino from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Ian Zaffino - Oppenheimer

Analyst

So couple of questions here on the, you talked about the drivers of I think it was the phthalic anhydride, I would imagine some of the similar drivers that were driving your pitch business, but I guess you are looking for different kind of growth in each one, one being flat while being growing. What's causing that discrepancy in the growth rates between the two of those?

Walt Turner

Management

Between the phthalic anhydride market demand and what?

Ian Zaffino - Oppenheimer

Analyst

And the pitch .

Walt Turner

Management

Well obviously you are talking two different market applications. Phthalic anhydride, as we mentioned was primarily into auto products and also into housing products and it’s basically going into the plasticize, there was some plastics and resins which gets into the various plastic piping and what have you. And we are seeing here in U.S. which is our only phthalic operation, at or perhaps even slightly higher this year than last year, just because of what we’re seeing in the auto industry and what we’re seeing in the housing starts and so forth, the point I think you might be getting at perhaps which is helping us out is that we are using naphthalene more so as the feedstock versus orthoxylene which is a petroleum derivative. And so two things there, one we are the only producer in North America that can utilize naphthalene as a feedstock but secondly we are selling naphthalene into the surfactants market, concrete additives, what have you and with more phthalic production increasing in China, these new phthalic operations are going to be looking at using naphthalene versus orthoxylene because of the pricing differential between the two and that’s going to help support the sort of naphthalene pricing around the world, which is something that we're watching very closely, but it should be a positive for us going forward in 2013, because of the increased demand of naphthalene globally.

Ian Zaffino - Oppenheimer

Analyst

Okay, okay. It's just because I would have also thought maybe the auto industry would have helped the aluminum side of the equation too, but I guess there's geographic issues and…

Walt Turner

Management

As well aluminum, I mean, the use of aluminum in auto production continues going year-over-year especially with the lighter weights that they are looking at for improved fuel usage and what have you. Just in the U.S. alone aluminum consumption has increased almost 3% last year and projecting to increase another 3% this year and most of that increase is really related to the auto industry. So you're right there as well, Ian.

Ian Zaffino - Oppenheimer

Analyst

Okay - and then on the leverage side of the equation, you brought down the leverage. Do you intend to bring it up? Are there some deals out there that you could do to bring it up, or maybe increase the buyback or even increase the dividend or I guess let me ask you in a different way, what's your ideal capital structure and how do you get there?

Walt Turner

Management

First of all, we continue to look at acquisitions, sort of having a EBITDA ratio of 1.4. I think we would like to see it at3, 3.2, 3.5, but that's going to require the right acquisitions that we continue to look for and we’re constantly looking at growth opportunities, whether it's an acquisition or a joint venture project we have in China or working with other companies in joint ventures like Nippon Silicon Chemical Company. So I can't say specifically to you but I can tell you that we continue to look at favorable acquisitions that will more than get us to exceed our expectations of being $2 billion company in 2015.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Steve Schwartz from First Analysis. Please go ahead.

Steve Schwartz - First Analysis

Analyst

Walt, correct me if I misheard you, but I think you said that your pitch volumes in '13 would be up year-over-year, in large part due to higher production out of China. If I recall China, has been running at higher than nameplate capacity, so how do you expect to get additional volume out of those two facilities.

Walt Turner

Management

Well as I think Leroy touched on, you saw a large increase in our carbon black feedstock sales in 2012 and part of the increase in the carbon black feedstock sales was actually converting potential pitch production to carbon black feedstocks. At that particular time primarily in the third and fourth quarters we saw opportunities to supply carbon black feedstocks instead of supplying pitch, just because of the market demand and what have you at that point in time. So now what I'm saying is we're going to convert some of that feedstock sales back to pitch production because of the increased demand on pitch.

Steve Schwartz - First Analysis

Analyst

Okay, all right I thought the ratio was kind of locked and I also thought CBS volumes were up because of your change in Australia because you shut down the carbon black.

Walt Turner

Management

But also Steve, we have the option. There is three different types of feedstocks that carbon black producers can use. Some unfortunately can use raw coal tar. Others will use the distillates from our process where we're producing carbon pitch and generating a distillate that represents about 30% of our total tar, and the other option is producing a soft pitch which allows you to take out the chemical oil and some other value added components and then add back some other types of distillates there still meet a carbon black feedstock specification. So you can actually approach that market in three different ways.

Steve Schwartz - First Analysis

Analyst

I see, okay, as my follow up, this is in regards to the railroads business, your incremental margin fourth quarter, looking year over year, you only added a little over $5 million in revenue but profit went up by $4 million. I know Grenada has something to do with that but I think Walt, you said you expected $4 million to $5 million of incremental profit in ‘13 from the Grenada closure. So what else is behind what happened there in the fourth quarter? Is the rest of that all mix because you are selling more commercial or short length ties.

Walt Turner

Management

Well actually it’s the combination of three other items. You mentioned Grenada, so that is helping our utility margins improving for sure because we were able to retain a majority of the utility poles that we were treating in Grenada but you add to that, that as the year went on Steve through 2012, the borate creosote treated tie and demand continued to increase throughout the year. So every quarter we were seeing additional increases in that product. We’re also seeing increases in our joint bar business which continues to be going very strong. In fact I think I mentioned even much stronger than 2011 was. And then the third area (inaudible) Timex and looking at improvements there. So overall it’s with a Class-1 venture lining businesses and going fairly strong and still looking at spending as much or maybe a tad more in 2013. This is a very good business for us, the treated wood, both on the railroad and the utility side and then on top of that Australia continues to do very well with their margin improvements and then you are going to see a nice improvement in 2013 with the acquisition.

Steve Schwartz - First Analysis

Analyst

Okay, so that $4 million to $5 million from Grenada in 2013, that is incremental to what you had in ‘12. Is that correct?

Walt Turner

Management

No, not incremental because we had four months, five months.

Leroy Ball

Management

We did about $1 million to $2 million this year. So that’s the annualized benefit.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Liam Burke from Janney Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Liam Burke - Janney Capital Markets

Analyst

Well, you have mentioned you had two contract renewals with higher pricing in 2012. In 2013 do you have any more contracts for renewals on the crossties business?

Walt Turner

Management

We have one that we completed at the end of 2012, which would start benefitting this year. Yeah, so another one that’s going to help us this year.

Liam Burke - Janney Capital Markets

Analyst

And do you anticipate export volumes on crossties to increase in 2013.

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes we do. We expect an increase in the export of ties.

Liam Burke - Janney Capital Markets

Analyst

And then lastly, Leroy, you explained why the inventory levels were higher year-over-year with the increased product mix in the inventory you carry for corporate rail customers. Will those inventory levels stay at that point or should we anticipate some moderation of inventory through 2013?

Leroy Ball

Management

That’s a tough one. I guess, for the most part, if the business is strong we expect, I think we expect for those inventory levels to remain at that level.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Laurence Alexander from Jeffries. Please go ahead.

Laurence Alexander - Jeffries

Analyst

I guess, first question on the Borate export, can you give a sense for what the tailwind could be in 2013?

Walt Turner

Management

We are not currently supplying the borate portion of the crossties that we’re shipping to South America. That could happen down the road Laurence but it’s basically the creosote treated ties that we are supplying in South America.

Laurence Alexander - Jeffries

Analyst

Do you have a sense for a roughly how much of a change year-over-year that could be?

Walt Turner

Management

I really can’t comment on that at this time but we are expecting to have an increase over what we had this past year for sure.

Laurence Alexander - Jeffries

Analyst

And on the cash flow statement, can you walk through some of the gives and takes for 2013 and will there be any further outflows for productivity related costs, or there be any, how you view working capital?

Walt Turner

Management

I’ll start answering the question and then turn it over to Leroy on our capital expenses that we are planning for 2013. I think we have a program of about $38 million, which is maybe 10% higher than previous years and then the focus there with have additional capital money alliance is really looking at productivity projects and we’ve got a couple already underway and planning on hopefully having some more as we go through the year but the productivity is something we are taking very seriously. It’s also part of our margin improvement initiatives and so you are going to see capital spending up probably $5 million or $6 million over this past year. Leroy?

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes, excluding the joint venture construction.

Walt Turner

Management

Yes, then you’ve got that as well.

Leroy Ball

Management

Laurence, maybe I’ll take a different take on it. From our goal standpoint we’re looking at free cash flow as a percent of sales, about 5% is typically what we target. We were pretty much right on that for 2013 when you take out the additional pension contribution we made over the minimum and the productivity capital part of our capital expenditures. I think we see a similar sort of view in 2013. So from an operating cash flow standpoint we expect about 5% free cash flow as a percent of sales. Now what we’re going to have is we’re going to have about $13 million of additional pension contribution in excess of the minimum this year. So, again total of $20 million like we had last year but this year the minimum required is a lower number. So with that $20 million it will be an additional $13 million. That will equate to, and you have your productivity type of capital that will be in the $10 million to $15 million range. I would expect there would be some increases in working capital as our sales continue to grow but all in all you can figure that we pretty much target that 5% number and like I said, we’ve been fairly consistent getting orders there.

Laurence Alexander - Jeffries

Analyst

Okay and then lastly on the Chinese operations, can you a sense of how much of a margin lift you could get over two or three years and how much of a tailwind you could have in 2013? Just a very rough kind of range?

Walt Turner

Management

I think you’re going to continue to see margin improvements that we had in 2012 over ‘11 inching up quarter over quarter, not dramatically but inching up but whenever our third project comes on stream mid-2014. I think with the markets that we’re going to go after here you are going to see higher margin on that particular operation, which will obviously impact our overall trend of operations, but I can't really say much more than that at this time Laurence, except that it’s improving and should continue to improve.

Leroy Ball

Management

There is a couple of things I can add, Laurence. I mentioned within the scripted comments of about an additional $1 million that we would expect to spend in 2013 and that would be related to the Chinese joint venture. A lot of that would be in kind of the SG&A category. Our SG&A as a percent of sale, we expect to basically be able to keep it at that level, if not a little bit better. We will see an increase over the last year but part of that will be attributed both to this additional $1 million of cost for the joint venture. From an interest expense standpoint that will be capitalized as part of the construction cost. So you won't see in effect of interest expense on any borrowings related to that joint venture in 2013.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Please confirm if there is more time for another question?

Walt Turner

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Then the nest question comes from Kevin from Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.

Kevin Hocevar - Northcoast Research

Analyst

Most of my questions have been answered at this point but just one on the crosstie volume outlook. What are your thoughts on this positive train control systems that seem to be eating into class 1 CapEx budgets for 2013? Do you expect us to have any impact on your crosstie volumes? Are you seeing anything as of yet or what are your expectations for that in terms of impact on crosstie volumes?

Walt Turner

Management

Crosstie volumes for 2013, we obviously are very close to that, working with all the Class 1s, both U.S. and Canada and solutions on top of that for the Class 1s, you also have I think what we’re seeing as another strong commercial line railroad, maintenance program as well, especially with the extended tax credits that they get. So what we’re seeing is the same level or maybe even a tad higher volumes in 2013 for total tie insertion. The positive train control, now the spending continues to be quite heavy there but also at the same time the railroads must continue to focus on your maintenance of weight operations and again we’re getting some pretty strong confirmations that maintenance of way spending will continue at the same level or maybe even higher than last year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Chris Shaw from Monness Crespi. Please go ahead.

Chris Shaw - Monness Crespi

Analyst

Maybe just for Leroy, but between all the things you pointed to as sort of a negative for ‘13, the bad debt expense, the planned outage costs, the expenses for the JV in China and I guess the tank leak, year-over-year going into 2013 do you know what the net I guess EPS tailwind is going to be from all of that or earnings? Do you have that --?

Leroy Ball

Management

We don't have that quantified within our comments. I think we totaled that up in the neighborhood of the $8 million dollars in terms of a pretax impact. There is pieces that apply to different jurisdictions that would have different rates associated with them. I think if you just generally take somewhere in the neighborhood of 35% to 40% rate on that number, you can back into a rough EPS impact.

Chris Shaw - Monness Crespi

Analyst

Okay, and then in your coal tar cost for the quarter sequentially, have they improved at all in North America? Did they come down at all or you’re just hoping that they will just doing coming 2013?

Walt Turner

Management

Where? North America coal tar costs?

Chris Shaw - Monness Crespi

Analyst

Yes.

Walt Turner

Management

At this point we are still seeing some upward pressures but not dramatic but unfortunately there is still some upward pressures on tar costs.

Chris Shaw - Monness Crespi

Analyst

And when did you think that your old coke facility, when did you think that might online?

Walt Turner

Management

The earliest would be by the end of this year. So we are looking at it. The last I had read about the potential comeback was December of 2013. So it wouldn’t be much help this year but certainly would be going forward.

Chris Shaw - Monness Crespi

Analyst

And just a quick rail question, did you say that the crosstie volumes were down for the quarter and if it was then what was the moving parts there?

Walt Turner

Management

Well, when you look at for the year and probably the fourth quarter as well, crosstie lines were down a little bit but going back earlier in the year, with our margin improvement initiatives sometimes you have to give up a little bit of volume to get better pricing and better profits and that's pretty much what happened throughout the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you and the last question comes from Richard O'Reilly from Revere Associates. Please go ahead.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst

Two quick questions. On your railroad business in the first quarter, I would think your weather impact on your customers would depend how much they can do maintenance wise or need to do. How is weather for your customers in the first quarter?

Walt Turner

Management

Well as we're already midway into February you're right, exactly right on two fronts, one weather related, it has to do with when the railroads bring their construction crews back up from the south or back to work in the north but we've had what I'd call sort of a normal winter where we've had some slowdowns here and there. As far as I know at this point in time Richard that the northern construction business is pretty much on schedule as it typically is starting late February, early March. The other piece related to weather is getting the ties or the logs out of the woods into the sawmills and we had, it just depends what region you're looking at, Midwest, Kentucky, Missouri, there's been some concerns there but right now we don't see any major issues with getting the white ties from the sawmills that we’re getting. There's always interruptions, like there were two weeks ago, especially in the New York area. But yes, it's not been a real negative for us this year along the weather, thank goodness.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst

And a second question, I couldn't hear your last call because of Sandy, but seeing any, what type of carry over effect have you seen from Sandy?

Walt Turner

Management

Well we, I think in our call back in early November, we actually mentioned that we shipped over 10,000 utility poles up into New Jersey, New York. A lot of those were needed immediately. Some were put into distribution yards and so we continue to actually benefit a little bit from that by just replacing a lot of inventory that was diminished. In fact unfortunately even with the snow storm we're actually, now that the roads are open, we're actually moving additional utility poles north because of the unfortunate destruction that has taken place there with the snow storm last week.

Operator

Operator

Thank you ladies and gentlemen; there seems to be no further questions. I would like to return the conference over to your President and CEO, Walter Turner. Please go ahead.

Walt Turner

Management

Thank you Mark, and again we thank all of you for your participation in today’s call and appreciate your continued interest in our Company. We will continue to do the right things for our businesses, by pursuing prudent growth opportunities and looking for ways to enhancing our profitability with our existing business. We believe that the diversity of our businesses along with our margin improvement initiatives will continue to provide us with stability in both strong and weak economic climates, as we have experienced over these past three years. And finally we remain firmly committed to enhancing shareholder value by a maintaining our strategy, by providing our customers with the highest quality products and services while continuing to focus on safety, health and environmental issues throughout our global operations. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude the Koppers Holdings Inc. fourth quarter 2012 earnings conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.