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James Hardie Industries plc (JHX)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 11, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the James Hardie Q1 FY20 results briefing conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation, there will be a question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to our first speaker today, Dr. Jack Truong, Chief Executive Officer of James Hardie. Thank you, please go ahead.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Good morning, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I will start with key business and operational highlights on our first-quarter performance. Then, Matt Marsh, our CFO, will cover the financial details of the quarter. Finally, I will come back and update you on where we are with our three-year strategic plan. Let me begin by putting our first-quarter results in the context of our three-year strategic plan. We are an organic growth company. We're built to drive growth above market, our PDG growth in all regions of the world that we operate in, and with good returns. In North America, we are on a commercial transformation journey, to be a more focused-on-customer company, by continuing to invest significantly in demand creation, where our end users, the builders, installers, and R&R contractors. We are building a more robust account management capability to serve our customers, the builders, lumber yards, and distributors much better. This is aimed at driving a sustainable growth above market in the 6% range for the long term. We also drive lean manufacturing across all our plants in North America, to take advantage of our scale, to reduce variability, and to improve productivity. We target to generate $100 million in cumulative savings over a three-year period, due to lean. In Asia-Pacific, our goal is to make a good business better, hence, to continue to deliver growth above market, even in the contracted market that we currently have in Australia, and at good returns. In Europe, it's all about accelerating fiber cement growth, based on a growing fiber gypsum business, while improving our EBIT margin. Now, let's turn to page 7, on group results. I'm pleased to note that we delivered very good performance in all three regions that we operate in. North America had a…

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Thank you, Jack. Good morning, and good afternoon to everybody. Thank you for joining the call. I'm going to take you through the financial results at a deeper level, as we would typically do. So, on page 13, results for the first quarter for the group, we had net sales increased up 1%, which, in the context of the markets and the market conditions, both in North America and in Australia, we think is a good performance. The exteriors growth above the market at 5% in North America, fiber cement represents an improvement from the previous quarter. The Asia Pacific fiber cement business was impacted by the continued softening of the Australian market, so we've seen that now for several quarters, and our adjustable markets in Australia are definitely contracting. In Europe, as Jack mentioned, we had a higher net sales, largely driven by the fiber cement business, driving a 37% increase in revenue. Gross profits were up 5%, net sales up 1%. Gross margins increased 150 basis points. Adjusted net operating profit for the quarter was $90.2 million, up 13%. We had a 6% increase in EBIT in North America, a 272% increase in our European buildings segment, and Asia Pacific in U.S. dollars was down 12%. On page 14, we'll go into the North America results a bit more. We reported net sales in North America of $452.3 million. They were up 4%. On volume, exteriors was up 5%, compared to a year ago, and interiors was down 3%, an improvement from the fourth-quarter performance. Price of 1% in the quarter. We're on track for our 2% price increase for the year. We implemented our annual change in strategic pricing on April 1st, as we expected we would, and there was a little bit of mix and some…

Jack Truong

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. So, six months ago I share with you the strategic plan that our global team is executing on, and just to remind you that this global strategic plan was built with the following value creation in mind. So, if you go to page 29, this strategic plan is all about making sure that our North American business will deliver the growth, with the 35/90 at strong returns, which is 20%-25% EBIT margin, for the long term. And for Europe, it's about creating a €1 billion business, with the Hardie-like returns, with about 20% EBIT margin. And for Asia Pacific business, it's about deliver a growth above market with strong returns, 20% to 25% EBIT range. Turn over to page 30, and what does that mean for our strategic priorities for the fiscal year '20 and '22. For North America, it's all about accelerating our exterior business growth. It's about providing the total James Hardie solution for the exterior of the home. And this is really the key part about commercial transformation that we have discussed. And second, it's about driving lean transformation across all of our 10 plants. We are, currently, we are the world's best fiber cement producer, sung lean transformations that will turn U.S. into a world-class manufacture that really leverages on our economy of scale. And third is to reestablish interior as a growth business for us, not only in North America, also around the world. For Europe, the priorities are about gaining market traction, with current fiber cement products that we've been commercializing in Europe, as well as about developing new fiber cement products for the European fiber cement market. Second, it's about continuing to drive growth of fiber gypsum and gaining market penetration for this product line. And third for European business is…

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Your first question today comes from the line of Peter Stein from Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Peter Stein

Analyst

Good afternoon, Jack and Matt. Thanks very much for the time. Just was curious to get a little bit more flesh around the performance from a volume perspective in North America. Could you give us a bit of a sense of the fact of the difference to outcomes in the quarter, given what one's seen around the macro-environment? You know, is it regional performance or channel penetration, what's happened in interiors, and early impact on ColorPlus? Sorry, I'm giving you a few bullet points there, but I'm just curious on those perspectives.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Okay, well, good morning, Peter. So, let me address, first, the growth in exterior, and then we'll move into interior, and then we'll talk about the status of the color. So, with the exteriors, as we discussed during the past two conference calls, we are traditionally, and this is where Hardie's strength is all about creating demand in the marketplace with our end users, with the builders, with the contractor installers. And so, we have significantly increased the resource toward creating those demands, while at the same time, we have put a much bigger focus, in terms of manage our customers, the lumber yards and the dealers out there. And so, the execution of our team, from demand creation, connecting with our customers, that certainly helped increase our growth in the marketplace. And we also saw a lot of growth coming from our traditionally strong markets, which is the high-S. And we also saw very good growth in the low-S, particularly in the northeast and mid-Atlantic. And now, moving on to the interior business. This is what we also have shared with you in the last conference call, that is that we have shifted our focus from being calling on a lot of different stores about retailers, to really put more focus on calling in with our key customers at the headquarters, and then be a lot more proactively manage the business with our key retailers, so we can plan out the right promotion placement. And also, at the same time, we start to launch the James Hardie HydroDefense interior boards, and that's continued to gain traction, that we are pleased with the progress of that. And then, relative to our color programs, it is, right now, just the beginning of that launch, and we expect the momentum will build in the beginning of this quarter, and then will grow from here onward.

Peter Stein

Analyst

Thanks very much for that, Jack. And then, perhaps also a quick one around cash flows met. Could you talk to us to your expectations for CapEx for the full year? And also, just wanted to touch on your working capital performance, which was pretty good. What should one think about in terms of progression around working capital, as the year progresses?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Yeah, thanks, Peter. The CapEx guidance for the next three years remains consistent with the last couple of quarterly results, so we expect to spend $200 million in CapEx this year, which includes both the completion of the existing capacity projects that we've talked about in Tacoma, Prattville, and the ColorPlus product lines, and Carole Park, as well as kind of normal maintenance CapEx. And then, for fiscal '21 and for fiscal '22, $150 million in each of those two years. So, 200, 150, 150 is kind of the CapEx guidance that we are reaffirming. Regarding working capital, it was strong, as you note, as the result indicates. Keep in mind, it was a bit weaker in the fourth quarter, and we indicated that we felt pretty strongly that was the way some of the payables and receivables had come in at the end of March, in comparison to early April So, we were sort of expecting the result that we got in April, and that carried forward into the year. So, we do expect some working capital improvement in the year. WE don't think it'll be at the rate that you saw in the first quarter result. We are expecting strong cash flows overall, though, for the year.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brooke Campbell-Crawford from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Brooke Campbell-Crawford

Analyst

Yeah, good morning, thanks for taking my question, Jack and Matt. Just on the input costs for pulp, I guess, given the lags that should be there, between list prices and your actual cogs line, I would have thought that it would be a headwind, still, in the first quarter. I guess, is that correct, and if so, what was the impact to North America EBIT from that higher pulp?

Jack Truong

Analyst

Yeah, Brook, we actually had a headwind of raw materials within the quarter, and so, it is a lean savings that mitigates some of those. But we still have the headwinds of raw material in the first quarter. We expect that to ease, going forward, but we still see it, within the quarter.

Brooke Campbell-Crawford

Analyst

Yeah, no, that's fair. And I guess, given margins at 25% in the quarter despite those headwinds, which should abate as the year progresses, and you should get lean benefits building margins, I guess the outlook there is pretty promising. And so, you're telling us here that you're going to reinvest quite a bit in SG&A to get that top line down.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Yes. So, Brook, I think we had talked a lot during the last two conference calls, that the keys for long-term strategy, driving that sustainable growth is really about making sure that we invest into our market, particularly in demand creation, and also investing in our customers, while we ignite the innovation process within our company. And so, it's the investment that we need to invest in, to build and sustain our growth.

Brooke Campbell-Crawford

Analyst

Okay, and one more, just on pricing, a bit lower than I was expecting there, in North America. Can you provide some examples of the tactical price decisions that you made in the quarter?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Yeah, I think it's just normal tactical pricing variation. You know, we had guided to a 2% price increase for the year. We implemented that 2% for the year, and any given quarter, we'll have pricing, or sorry, mix and tactical pricing. Sometimes they offset, sometimes they both go one way. In this quarter, they happen to be a little bit stronger than the prior quarter, but very much the way we expected it to be. So, we've got line of sight to 2% for the year. We thought we'd kind a get off to a 1% first-quarter start that would build in the second and the third and the fourth quarter. Keep in mind, we're also coming off of a 5% pricing comp from a year ago. At that time, we also didn't over-emphasize the 5% last year. We said that it was a combination of the price increase, combine with mix and tactical pricing kind a going in a particular direction for that quarter. So, we like where we are on pricing. We think our strategic pricing is in a good place. We think our tactical pricing is appropriate. There's nothing sort of abnormal, you know, in the quarter. We just happened to see a one in the quarter, which is very much in line with how we planned and what we saw, and we're still guiding to the 2% plus for the year.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Chau from MST Marquee. Please go ahead.

Keith Chau

Analyst

Morning, Jack and Matt. Just a few quick questions. The first one is just on your distribution base. Quite clearly, the volume growth comp was strong, relative to peers, in particular. So, I'm just wondering if you can perhaps characterize how many distributors you've added, perhaps over the last six months, and whether there was a stocking benefit to those new distributors within this current result phase.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Hi, Keith. Remember, we are a PDG growth company, and our growth is the execution of the push-pull that our team have been embarking on. And we really didn't add any new distributors. This is really about us creating the demand, and then connect that with our customers to really drive better sales conversion. So, that's really what happened.

Keith Chau

Analyst

Okay, thanks, Jack. And then, I just want to touch on Europe very quickly. So, volumes are flat versus last year, fiber cement sales up, which implies the underlying fiber gypsum volumes were down for the period. I'm just wondering if you can give us a bit more color on the underlying dynamic there, please.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Actually, the volume for out fiber gypsum is slightly positive, in terms of volume. It is really, we have really good growth in Scandinavia, the UK, and France, and Switzerland. We're a little bit more challenged for growth of fiber gypsum in Germany, and it is a situation that we're correcting, but that is really what happened in the quarter.

Keith Chau

Analyst

Okay, and what's driving that challenge in Germany, please, Jack?

Jack Truong

Analyst

We very recently just opened up a new fiber gypsum plant in Germany, so it is a dynamic that's happening that we are just going -- that the market is going through that new capacity.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Scott from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Andrew Scott

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks for your time. Just a quick question, thanks for the data you provided on, I guess, the multi-year sort of timing of lean. Matt, I wonder if you can let us know what you delivered in this quarter, and how the sort of shape of that delivery of the 15 to 20 this year comes through, please.

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Yeah, so the way we've been describing lean over a three-year period, you can sort of think about that same cumulative framework within a 12-month period as well. So, lean is about getting 1% better every day, and that 1% improvement over a 90-day period, you know, obviously builds, then, for a 180-day period and a 27-day period, and the full year. So, you could expect, if we're guiding to kind of a $15 million to $20 million benefit in fiscal '20, that that would build in a very similar kind of cumulative profile, where first quarter would be the lowest, building on the second, building up to the third, and then building up to the fourth, for that total $15 million to $20 million. And then, that profile would sort of very much continue into the fiscal '21 and fiscal '22 targets. So, we've really got to lock in the month-one and the quarter-one savings, in order to deliver on the year-to-date savings target that we've put in place for each of the plants for the first half, and the first half we've got to deliver in order to get to those targets for the year. So, it's very much kind of about each week, each week, each month, and each quarter that builds to the year. So, hopefully, that gives you at least, sort of a framework maybe, to think about the 15-to-20. We're not going to provide specific numbers by quarter, but we're trying to provide a way of sort of thinking about it and continue to be transparent with how we're packing on that 15-to-20 on the half-year results.

Andrew Scott

Analyst

Got it, and I might be mistaken, but I think this is the first time you've talked about lean in Europe. Can you tell us, talk to us about the opportunity you see there? Is it quite similar, in terms of the improvement you think you can deliver?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Yeah, and Andrew, the situation we have in Europe is actually quite similar to our manufacturing plants in North America a year ago, and that is, we have five manufacturing plants of fiber gypsum and cement bonded, that pretty much run independently. And so, with the lean approach, it's really first that we have to make sure that those plants run to the standards, and then start to have the discipline of running through the standard operating procedure. And that's the first half, and second is to put in the first step of our Hardie Manufacturing Operating System. So, in many ways, it may be very similar to the opportunities that we have here in North America, and we're looking now to really turn that into value in Europe in the coming months.

Andrew Scott

Analyst

Got it. And then, Matt, finally, the last one from me. I'm sure you're aware, there was an asbestos case here that got quite a bit of attention. I know it's the AICF that settles that, rather than yourselves, but is there anything you're aware of, from a third-wave case there, that set any precedents, or was there anything that's inconsistent with what the actuary's actually thinking?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

No, I'm not aware of anything, and I would just sort of remind everyone that asbestos is best looked at over a long term and a long period of time, and I think we'll have an assessment from the actuary at the end of this fiscal year, that'll obviously consider that case and the impact. But I'm certainly not aware of anything specific to that case that would have an adverse or favorable impact, for that matter, on the actuarial estimate.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sophie Spartalis from Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Sophie Spartalis

Analyst

Good morning, team, just a few questions from me. Just in terms of volumes, we've talked about it already quite a bit, but just in terms of the sales force, can you provide an update as to how much that has now been bedded down, in terms of the hunter and gatherer sort of strategy that you had. And also, of that volume uplift that we've seen coming through in the quarter, how much of that is coming from these priority non-metro areas in the US? And then, just in terms of the FY'20 guidance assumptions, if you could just run thought what your R&R outlook is, please. Thank you.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Good morning Sophie. As far as our sales force, our hunters are getting close to being where we want it to be. And in terms of the farmers, it is the new capability within James Hardie that we have been building. Of course, that started with, we onboarded and hired a new head of sales, which we shared with you before, and also, we have just hired a new VP of sales for the interior business, to also have the capability of being very good farmers with the big retailers. So, this is the area that we're more at the beginning of the journey, rather than the middle or the end, as far as account management's concerned. And then, so, what's your second question, Sophie?

Sophie Spartalis

Analyst

Just in terms of how much of that volume uplift came from the new strategy around targeting those priority non-metro areas.

Jack Truong

Analyst

You know, Sophie, the way we approach the market now is very driven through our customers, and then with our end users. And we just don't differentiate a lot in terms of non-metro versus metro like we used to. And then, so relative to your question on R&R, we are making the assumption that the R&R market will be between maybe 3% and 4% growth for the year.

Sophie Spartalis

Analyst

Great, just to clarify, that's for the U.S.

Jack Truong

Analyst

For North America, for the U.S., yeah.

Sophie Spartalis

Analyst

Yeah, great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Wilson from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Peter Wilson

Analyst

Thank you, morning. Another question on the North American volume results. So, a very strong result. Is there anything that you'd call out that maybe is not a reference point, so any short-term factors which might have inflated sales this quarter, such as a strategic price increase, or anything like that which would mean that we shouldn't use it as a reference point for the rest of this year?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

No, there's nothing sort of artificial in there. We're still guiding to kind of a 3% to 5% PDG for the full year. We think the market in the first quarter was roughly flat, and will be up just slightly for the full year, that's got new construction down slightly, and repair and remodel, we think, will be up about 3%. So, there's going to be some normal quarter-to-quarter variation, the 5%, as you said, is a good result for the quarter, but we're still kind of thinking that it's a 3% to 5% kind of primary demand growth year. So, we've tried not to stay very focused, in the last several quarters, on the quarter, and we think it's much more about a rolling 12 months, and the results for the year, and we still think we're in this 3% to 5%. That obviously implies that, with a 5% coming out of the first quarter, that you could have some normal variation within the 3% to 5% and still be within that range for the year. So, we certainly are pleased with the result in the first quarter, but I would just reaffirm the 3% to 5% is the assumption that is the one that we want you to hear, primary demand growth for the full year.

Peter Wilson

Analyst

Yeah, Okay, because I accept that there is quarterly variation, and probably because you've built expectations that things would build, I guess, throughout the year, so the benefits of your sales strategy would build throughout the year. And, in closed call, you've talked about color momentum building throughout the year, and also, reinvestment of some of those raw material savings. So, I'm just wondering why we might not see an improvement during the year, and why you might not be looking to exceed that 3% to 5%.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Well, Peter, I think, you know, it is now that we get to this critical mass of the size now, that every day, every week, we have to execute our game plan correctly, and we have to earn that business every day. So, it's not something that we have a good first quarter and think that the rest will be like that. So, it is a daily execution in our business now, so that we can earn that business.

Peter Wilson

Analyst

Okay, and lastly, your comments in regards to your farmers strategy is still at the beginning of that. In the one-quarter result, can you give us an estimate of how much base business erosion you lost during the quarter?

Jack Truong

Analyst

It is roughly, it's less than what we used to. But in terms of the exact percentage, we will make that as confidential in our company.

Peter Wilson

Analyst

Okay, but you are still, by your estimate, losing business, still a negative drag.

Jack Truong

Analyst

We still have some erosion, yes, so there's room for improvement, going forward.

Peter Wilson

Analyst

Okay, perfect. That's all from me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Grant Slade from Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Grant Slade

Analyst

Good Morning, Jack and Matt, and thanks for taking the question. I just had one follow-up on the PDG performance in North America. You increased sales resources and focused on lumberyards. Do you have a sense of whether that's driving mostly fiber cement category share gains, or are you taking greater market share? Thanks.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Grant, good question. It is a combination of both.

Grant Slade

Analyst

And, okay, great. And do you have any sense of, I guess, sort of the proportion there, or difficult to say?

Jack Truong

Analyst

It is too early to tell, yet, Grant, but it is something that we would focus on to really have a better quantification going forward.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel King from Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Daniel King

Analyst

Good morning everyone. Jack, I just wanted to get your thoughts on the marketplace. I guess in terms of overall U.S. market, clearly a tough quarter for the start. But your guidance for the full year of slightly up, suggests improvements through the course of the year. Are you seeing much evidence as we move into the second quarter, at this point? Maybe a second question for Matt, in terms of cost. Pulp prices are clearly down on a year-on-year basis, I work out something like down 11% or something like that. Are we starting to see the benefits feeding through into the second quarter?

Jack Truong

Analyst

Let me answer the question on the markets. Certainly, everyone saw the data, certainly, in the first six months of the calendar year have been quite choppy. Depends on where the source you use, can be anywhere from down 4% to 6%. We see slight improvements in this quarter, and then a little bit for the rest of the year. But we're still, for the whole year, still pretty much flat for the red residential starts. And then, like Matt said, our R&R is roughly about 3% growth, for the market.

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Yeah, and on the pulp question, we're seeing kind of double-digit decrease in parts of the pulp market, but overall, we see that the pulp market's down closer to six, in comparison to the fourth quarter peak. And just, we sort of look at the contract market and the spot rate market as different markets. We also look at the U.S. and China markets as different markets. So, there are parts of those four markets that are down more than others, and in total, we think it's down about six. You're correct that we will, and we are expecting to see, as the year goes on, the pulp headwind on a year-on-year basis decrease. But for the total year, we still have pulp and commodities in totality, out input costs still going up slightly.

Grant Slade

Analyst

Great, thanks, Matt. And just, I know you don't like to talk about the rain affecting the market. Do you see dry conditions in the fall as a benefit for the rest of the year?

Matt Marsh

Analyst

We won't talk about rain, but we'll talk about drought.

Jack Truong

Analyst

I mean, I'd just like to reinforce that we are a PDG growth company, and our focus so really about how do we create more value, at the end-user and for our customers, so that we can really gain more and more share to the category to the market. So, that's really our key focus, and that will continue to be our focus going forward.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the ling of James Brennan-Chong from UBS. Please go ahead.

James Brennan-Chong

Analyst

Hi, Jack, hi, Matt. Congratulations on a very strong result. Just articulating a little bit more the PDG and the volumes. Are you able to split out where you're getting that PDG, in terms of whether it's again, new housing or R&R? Are you winning more, say, into one category, compared to the other? Thank you.

Jack Truong

Analyst

It's really difficult to say, James, but I think, based on these graphic spreads, we tend to have more of the road to new construction, through the south and southeast, and south-central mid-Atlantic. And we also saw a lot of growth in the northeast, which is primarily an R&R market for us.

James Brennan-Chong

Analyst

Right, so no real change in the relative exposure, then, to new housing versus R&R. You're getting consistent PDG in both segments.

Jack Truong

Analyst

Correct.

James Brennan-Chong

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you.

Matt Marsh

Analyst

Jason, maybe one last question, or we can end the call.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time.

Jack Truong

Analyst

So really, we're pleased with the good execution of our strategic plan for all of our employees around the world. We saw more at the beginning of the journey, rather than at the end. We still have a lot of work to do to accomplish our long-term goals, but we're encouraged that we're on the right path. Thank you all very much for dialing in, and have a good morning and goodnight.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and Gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.