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Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 13, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to ITT's 2014 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Results and 2015 Outlook Conference Call. Today is Friday, February 13, 2015 and starting the call from ITT today is Melissa Trombetta, Vice President, Investor Relations. She is joined by Denise Ramos, Chief Executive Officer and President; and Tom Scalera, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning at 12:00 p.m. Eastern. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. And the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Melissa Trombetta. You may begin.

Melissa Trombetta

Analyst

Thank you, Laurie. I'd like to highlight that this morning's presentation, press release and reconciliations of GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures can be found on our website at www.itt.com/ir. During the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. No forward-looking statements can be guaranteed, and actual results may differ materially from those projected. We undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Forward-looking statements made on this call should be evaluated together with the risks and uncertainties that affect our business, particularly those disclosed in our SEC filings. So let's now turn to Slide number 3, where Denise will discuss our results.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us as we announce our financial results for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2014 which is a record year for ITT. The combination of our focused execution and balanced portfolio drove our extraordinary result in Q4, 2014. So let me share some of the 2014 execution highlights. Organic revenue up 7%, adjusted segment operating margin up 130 basis points, marking the second year in a row that we delivered over 100 basis points of margin improvement. Adjusted segment operating income up 17%. And adjusted EPS of $2.47 per share, up 22% on top of the 20% growth we delivered in 2013. Our comprehensive growth directly reflects the power of our diversified and balanced portfolio. As all three of our market segment performed well in 2014. Our transportation and industrial market when combined grew 5%, led by our aerospace, automotive and rail businesses. The strength in these two segments representing nearly 80% of our portfolio was further enhanced by the 20% growth in our oil and gas segment. I am very pleased with our performance this year which reflects the efforts of our thousands of dedicated ITT employees all around the world. From enhancing our brake pad and pump capabilities to turning around our connectors and shock absorber businesses to advancing our LEAN journey, they have all used their bold thinking and collective know how to build on a multiyear track record of performance. As we move into 2015 and continue to face a difficult external environment with global oil and gas market and foreign exchange headwinds, we will proactively drive internal initiatives that will focus on optimizing execution, expanding our global transportation and industrial markets and deploying capital effectively. Through our collective focus in these areas, we will effectively drive…

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Thanks, Denise. Now let's turn to Slide 9, where we will start with our adjusted 2015 segment operating margin guidance. In 2015, we are expecting adjusted segment operating margins to expand 60 to 80 basis points to approximately 15%. This growth will be fueled by entity wide productivity driven by a LEAN transformation. Also included in our margin expansion will be 100 basis points of incremental benefits from restructuring actions. We plan to leverage these operational gains to offset inflation and the pricing headwinds anticipated in the automotive and oil and gas markets. In addition, we plan to fund 50 basis points a long- term strategic investment that are consistent with those that are powered our track record of strong organic growth. The 2015 organic investments will include investments in our motion technologies, Wuxi facility as we continue to ramp up production on 10 of Top 20 platforms in China by the end of 2015. Other investments include expanding our aerospace after market portfolio offerings, accelerating our LEAN transformation and upgrading our IT capabilities. So now let's turn to Slide 10, where we have summarized our 2015 revenue expectations in the oil and gas market. Just to provide context before we get into the details. Total oil and gas represent 18% of our revenue with 10% in the upstream and 8% in the mid and downstream. In order to better asses how dramatic changes in the oil and gas market would impact our business, we undertook the following activities. We retained a leading third party research firm to assess regional impacts across all sectors. We contacted key global customers and we evaluated our backlog and opportunity pipeline on a project by project basis. As a result of this analysis, we estimate that our 2015 oil and gas revenues will decline…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Mike Halloran of Robert W. Baird.

Mike Halloran

Analyst

Good morning everyone. So one real quick one. The plus 9% transport, plus 4% industrial, minus 11% oil and gas. are those organic or do those include FX?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

They are organic, they exclude FX and the --

Denise Ramos

Analyst

They do include the acquisition in there, that 9% transportation which would be 6% without that.

Mike Halloran

Analyst

Right, which you said would have been plus 6%, yes, that’s right, great. So on the oil and gas side you guys talked about -- two questions there. One, when you look at the backlog today, how much did the backlog represent of your 2015 outlook and how does that compare to normal trends?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes. Mike, we’re about 65% of our business in backlog, it’s a much higher weighting of project business that we currently have in backlog right now so obviously we have space line activity in the oil and gas markets, aftermarket activity which is a much shorter backlog window. But we have a higher weighting of our project activity nearly 80% of that is in backlog right now, and again we did go through and look on a project by project basis at the opportunities in our pipeline as well to see how we would best assess to realize ability of those projects coming through. So we do have solid backlog visibility in projects, we’re always cautious of potential delays which are hard to predict in this kind of environment, but we did try to build the pretty solid bottoms up view of the demand in oil and gas for us.

Mike Halloran

Analyst

All right, now that makes sense. And then also just want to ask a question on the pricing side. I'm assuming the pricing commentary that you had for the Motion Tech business is just the standard bleed downs that you have as part of your five-year contracts. Is that fair?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

Right. That's exactly what we have built into this for 2015.

Mike Halloran

Analyst

And then so on the oil and gas side, when you guys talk about pricing pressure, is that things that you're seeing already in the quoting activity? Or are these things you're anticipating because of where the environment is?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

It is what we are seeing in the activities that are taking place in our conversation that we are having with our customers right now. We are seeing that there is just more pricing pressure that's being applied to this. So we anticipate that there is going to be some pricing pressure that comes through in 2015 for IP.

Mike Halloran

Analyst

Makes sense. And then last one for me on the Wuxi facility side, could you just talk about what kind of step change you guys are seeing on the -- on boarding of new capacity there? Is it comparable to what we would have been talking about over the last quarter or two? And how is that shaking out?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

It has been very nice, that's a great example of how motion tech is really performing well in China. We talked about China being up over 20% this year. We expect to have continued 20% growth for them next year and we're gradually ramping up the capacity there. We currently have capacity there of $20 million brake pad. And so this additional investment that we are making in 2015 is to take it up to $30 million brake pad. So we will see that facility continue to ramp up throughout the year. And so that we will end up at around $25 million to $30 million brake pad run rate when we get to the end of the year. It is important to note that we've been doing this build out in a very modular fashion. And we've done it based on platforms that we've won. So when you look at winning the platform, you basically have 18 to 24 months or so before there was actual production that starts with that. So we've looked at the platform that we've won and said that we need to ramp up Wuxi to this $30 million brake pad based on what we know today. And a nice thing about with the platform that we are winning is today we are on the top five of the Top 20 platforms and by the end of 2015, we are going to be on 10 of the Top 20 platforms. So just a nice progression and a nice story for motion technologies and how they are able to really capture market share in China.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Inch of Deutsche Bank.

John Inch

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Can I ask about cash flow and CapEx and working capital? I think just if I'm clear, Tom, so CapEx this year was $119 million, you think it goes to kind of $103 million, is that about the number? So that's going to give you a bit of a source of cash. And I think weren't these IP projects, weren't they also a drag to working capital? So are you assuming kind of a source there? I guess where I'm going with this is that you did a little aerospace acquisition, you've increase the dividend. Are all of these bucket placeholders that shift from one side to the other, right? You do a little bit more share repurchase -- you're probably not raising debt. So I still want to kind of understand how you're thinking about the balance sheet because it seems like you're just moving things around a little bit which is fine. But how are you thinking about the balance sheet, financial leverage and just the fact that -- you seem to be very over capitalized still?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes. John, we are gaining some momentum here from the working capital perspective. To your point projects are fairly working capital intensive so as we go into 2015 we would expect to see some fairly significant working capital improvement across, not only the IP platform but across ITT, it is one of our primary focus is going in 2015. And it is kind of what we think make sense given where we are in our LEAN transformation to really focus on working capital efficiencies. Now and we've been banded in this range between 18% and 20% of sales. It kind of really varies based on what's happening in the project business. So we do expect some favorable trends in working capital. As you pointed out we are lowering CapEx. Some of the 2015 number of projects that were started in 2014 that would bleed into 2015. So if you really look at the CapEx run rate as far as new, new in 2015 and it is even down more than the amount of cash we are going to deploy in 2015. So some good positive cash generating activities which are behind our view to increase the dividend to fund the additional repurchases and obviously as we've mentioned this pending aerospace acquisition is another source for us to deploy capital. Another thing I would just kind of add to the cash flow strength is a lot of our repositioning activities and transformation activities that were tied to the spin. As you can see are now beyond us in 2015. So there is another category where we are going to provide some additional cash flow and the focus as you move into 2015 and beyond is to continue to invest in organic initiatives, and then prioritize more M&A pipeline build out so that we can deploy this excess capacity and balance sheet strength that we have. We don't see a need to leverage up at this point, but we are working our balance sheet and the pipeline to make sure that we have opportunities for inorganic growth that fit with our core business. And if all those things don't materialize just like we are saying here, we would do additional share repurchases just to maintain kind of the current levels we are at today.

John Inch

Analyst

No, that's actually - that's very helpful. That's how I was thinking about it. I'm sorry for my multipart question. Denise, you talked historically -- or not that long ago really -- that if the right deal came along you'd be comfortable raising $200 million to $300 million possibly in debt to finance it. Are you still thinking that or may now -- you've got some cash flow strength tailwinds. You seem to be managing at least the oil and gas downturn with what appears to be sufficiently conservative guidance. But how are you thinking about the debt threshold and just the opportunity to buy companies?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

No. John, my thinking hasn't changed on that. It really depends on the opportunity that's out there. As we've said, we are aggressively going after acquisitions within our pipeline. Some of the key focus areas for us right now would be in aerospace, would be in industrial, and would be in rail and so we are looking at deals of all sizes to be honest. Anywhere from smaller ones, we are announcing the $30 million acquisition in aerospace today all the way up to some larger ones. So would we be willing to take on debt for the right kind of deal? Yes, we would. It is what's important to us we would like to maintain our investment grade rating.

John Inch

Analyst

Can I just ask one more follow-up? GE built all of these oil and gas businesses at great expense when oil was $100 plus and they basically have said, well, we don't put any more money into this. Now Denise, you've talked about the fact that you still like the oil and gas markets very much. With oil doing what it's done -- you didn't mention oil as one of the three buckets, aero, industrial, rail. Would you consider doing an oil and gas deal? It strikes me that you could potentially buy some properties at a discount.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

Our focus in IP right now is with optimizing what we currently have in there. We put in some of the new facilities and we did that thinking that we were going to utilize those to optimize our position in the engineered systems part of that business. And that is still the intent to do that. So we are restructuring that organization, we announced that in December. And we are focusing vertical on the engineered systems and industrial products and the aftermarket and we think that's going to produce for us a lot of benefit. We are still cultivating target in the IP space. There is variety of different types of cultivation activities in areas that we are looking at there. So while our activity level in oil and gas acquisitions for IP I would say is little bit lower than what it has been historically. We haven't shut the door on those opportunities. And if a compelling opportunity comes our way, we would absolutely consider it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Shannon O'Callaghan of UBS.

Shannon O'Callaghan

Analyst

Good morning. It sounds like you guys did a lot of detailed work around oil and gas. I'm just wondering as you came out of that were any of your ingoing assumptions changed in terms of things that you thought would hold up due to just sort of MRO activity-related things that -- once you talked to people and did the work, you said actually maybe that's going to be a little different than we thought or vice versa? Just wondering if anything came out of that that was different than what you might have thought going in?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Shannon, I think the one thing that we learned in this -- the last couple of months have really diving deep into these different factors is, there really isn't a pattern within the oil and gas industries that we really had to get very project specific, very regional and kind of go through each one of those categories because some things that we did anticipate were potential drivers of opportunity proved to be a little bit in a different risk category that we anticipated, and it wasn't until we really peeled back into the project and into the field, where we had a better appreciation for what the true puts and takes were. So I would think that's a major revelation and not really being able to apply broad generalities but really need to get inside the projects and specific.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

I'd agree with that. In general, our conclusion that we came to at a very high level, we are very consistent with what we have been thinking. But when you delved right into and looked at the details behind of this Tom said we could not really find a pattern to say that you can take that pattern and apply it across the globe for oil and gas activities. Some of these areas that we are involved in, they have different dynamics taking place. You've got the NOCs versus the IOCs. You've got different cost structures in these various applications that are out there. So everyone tends to be somewhat unique. Which is why we had to go to the level of detail that we did and look at it project by project in our backlog and really triangulated with what we are hearing in the market place?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

And just to kind of briefly, Shannon, you mentioned MRO; I think the MRO view is generally in line with what we thought going into the exercise as well.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

We do believe that focusing on our core from an IP perspective, we believe that we are going to be able to gain some opportunities there and to gain some market share and focusing in that area because that's we have historically been very, very strong. So we are going to take advantage of that in this market place. And we are going to aggressively go after those activities.

Shannon O'Callaghan

Analyst

And it does sound like you came out still feeling okay about the mid and downstream here. So you mentioned some share gains. Is that more specific to you or do you just generally feel good about that activity holding up?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

I would say on the general chemical side of thing. Or on the petrochemical side, it is relatively okay the market place. We do think we are going to outpace the market with it, again going back to the core that we've got. And with our core of brand of Gould here and we think that we are going to be able to take back some lost share because of -- okay how we operate with gold and also because of these new organizational structure we put in place an IP, we are going to have team laser focused on these very specific areas.

Shannon O'Callaghan

Analyst

And just last one for me is how does this all play out in IP in terms of margins? As you have the lower margin stuff declining and your non oil business is doing reasonably well, can margins actually go up or can you hold margins? Maybe a little just thought of how to think about that.

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes, absolutely, Shannon. Our plan is to move the margins up nicely probably above what we are targeting for ITT as a whole. It is a source of opportunity not only from improved deficiency operations; we do have a lot of the restructuring actions focused in that segment this year. So those factors will give us some nice margin lift. We will be also enhanced by mix as the project mix shifts a little bit from its weight that we had historically. The big headwind is pricing that we are watching as well but net, net we do expect a nice margin performance in 2015.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

It is important to note in that respect. We are somewhat different than other companies in our IP business. Its acts are -- how we have been evolving that business. So they were really two dynamics taking place. We were growing and maturing in the engineered systems part of this business which we've said that as we've gotten the facilities in place and the teams in place and a new organizational structure in place. If that enough itself, would drive efficiency and productivity. So we would -- so that is what's going to drive the IP margins to be better than what they have been in the past. Now you couple that with now what's happening in the oil and gas market. But we still believe that even when that comes into play, and we focus on our core and we develop more efficiency in our manufacturing operations with our engineered systems business that we are going to be able to have some margin improvement.

Tom Scalera

Analyst

And, Shannon, just to clarify, the margin expansion in IP we expect to be ahead of the IT margin expansion level, just to put a final point on the comment that I made previously.

Shannon O'Callaghan

Analyst

So you are not going above 1t% this year time, Tom.

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Correct, correct. Some day but not --

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst

Good morning. Maybe just a little bit more on the pricing dynamics and IP, when you talk about this increasing pressure, are you having customers approaching to re-price orders already won or is it discussion on what is going forward? I am just curious what's the risk potentially in the backlog?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

Yes. We are really seeing the pricing pressure on projects going forward and that is really where the focus is. What we have seen in the feed stage is that the level of activity in the feed stage is down about 10% or 15%, and so along it was being down is continuing pricing pressures getting applied in that whole dynamic and that at the front end of those projects. So it is really there that we expect to see the price pressure slowing through in 2015.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst

Right, Okay. And just coming back to the assumptions on the mid and downstream, so you said you anticipate you're taking share gains. But I guess -- what are the assumptions on the core markets? Are both of those markets down in 2015 and you're just outpacing the headwinds? Or is it kind of flattish and you're going to do a little better? Can you give a little more just granularity on what the base of those markets really are?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes, so Brian we are expecting to outperform in general chemical and the industrial markets primarily being driven by strength in North America where Denise mentioned it is our core stronghold if you will for the gold business, we have a tremendous distribution capability and we are seeing with some targeted activities and opportunity for us outgrow fairly flattish type of markets in those categories. So we are going to opportunistically go after some share gain and that compounding what we currently in have backlog for those categories.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then on the Interconnect business, when do you anticipate the disinvestment phase to come to an end? Is that a 2015 event? Not that it's --stop

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes, we are getting closer -- the bulk of the restructuring this year is not really in ICS, there will be some continuation of the activities that we have started, the big move that is taking place in the first half of this year at ICS as we move more production into our new Nogales, Mexico facility that is going to cause a little bit of first half disruption. We have been parts of those operations and that activity will continue in the first half of this but the bulk of the major kind of restructuring and investments in ICS have already played through in 2014 and 2013, and the focus is to kind of get the new operating capabilities and run rate totally online in 2015 and start moving forward from there.

Denise Ramos

Analyst

So we knew when we undertook the ICS turnaround. We knew that we needed to focus on the operational pieces first and the restructuring and getting the cost structure in line there. So we have aggressively gone after that and as Tom side this is the year that was going now have to make that all work with some -- one of the major facilities being moving from Santa Ana California down in Nogales Mexico which is underway right now and should be completed by midyear this year. So now we need to make sure we operate and do things the right way, that's really what has been strength behind some of the margin improvement that we have seen in ICS. We also looked at some product lines and decided that we needed to reduce some of our focus on certain product line, so we have been resetting the front end of the business also, we put the new organizational structure in place and so now it is going to be all about innovation and working on the front end. But we don’t expect the top line to have improvement this year, that's going to be later but we need to get the cost structure and the operations working in the right way first.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst

I guess my question is more around exiting some of these non-strategic lines. Just curious when the headwind from that -- those actions start to abate. Are we going to continue to see those disinvestments in 2015 where we have more headwinds because you're just exiting more businesses? Or -- I guess that was more my question.

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes, from that prospective Brian we are still cycling through the end of life platforms and that will continue to be the reason -- part of the reason why we don’t see lot of top-line growth from ICS prospective in 2015. So those end of life programs are going to probably cycle down over 2015 and in the 2016 as well, but we're starting to see the accelerated ramp out of those activities.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst

If I could just sneak one more in. So of the restructuring savings you have baked into the number, how much of that is coming from the actions taken in 2014 versus the actions taken in 2015? And what do you anticipate at this point from the actions announced will be carried over into 2016?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Right now Brian it's about 50-50 between the 2014 actions we did some more at the end of Q4 proactively getting some momentum there. So the splits about 50-50. And you could assume a good chunk then of the 2015 actions are going to carry into 2016 about 40% to 50% obviously that we will carry into 2016. It's usually about year -- a little over around a year payback in general.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joe -- of Goldman Sachs.

Joe Ritchie

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. So my first question is on IP margins. Tom, just going back to your point on margins improving this year, can you just talk a little bit about the puts and takes? I know that you had some elevated investment in 2014 and clearly we've talked about the pricing pressure in 2015. If it's possible for you guys to quantify what's embedded in your expectation from a pricing standpoint that would be helpful as well.

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes. So, Joe, from a pricing perspective we don't want to get to overly specific but I would say that we're expecting pressures that are probably significantly how about what we've seen in the past. So that is one of the factors that we're putting on the IP business assumptions at this stage. But the goal is really to drive the productivity. That's where we're getting the offsets to some of these top line headwinds if you will. And the reason why we feel good about the productivity is our industrial process business is making very solid gains in the way that we operate as we brought out new capabilities online in Korea and Seneca Falls, that's enabled us to eliminate a lot of waste, a lot of scrap, a lot of rework that we are experiencing over the last couple of years as we are really starting to ramp up our capabilities in engineering systems business. So we are reaching a level of maturity where we're starting to reduce a lot of those types of headwind, and we would expect those approved manufacturing efficiencies to start to flow through for us in 2015. So that's probably one of the biggest drivers. This kind of margin expansion wouldn't have been available to us without bringing up these new capabilities. We were incurring a lot of third party cost for example to do testing because we didn't have the internal capabilities and a lot of that -- those kind of challenges now are ones that we can address very effectively internally. So 2015 margins for industrial process is really about productivity efficiency, the benefits of the lower cost structure from the restructuring actions we're taking. And all of that more than offsetting the headwinds we do expect to be more pronounced from a price perspective.

Joe Ritchie

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful, Tom. I guess maybe a follow-up just in general on the guidance and the cadence of the guidance with the first quarter being down $0.10. Clearly there's an expectation for a ramp as the year progresses. I guess I'm just trying to parse out like how much of it do you think is within your control today versus reliance on the demand environment and exogenous factors?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes, it's great question, Joe. One of the factors in Q1 is again this re-phasing of motion technologies; one of our customers is changing their patterns. So that's just a calendar shift if you will. We then have this backlog visibility that we've been talking about in the industrial process business. And really nice visibility into our aerospace. So when you take a lot of these factors and you kind a laying the progression of the year. We do have a pretty good visibility into the flow out of the top line which we said is fairly evenly balanced as the year progresses. What are going to accumulate as the year goes on are the benefits of restructuring, the benefits of the productivity actions we have. The foreign exchange on a year-over-year basis does moderate as time goes on. And then share repurchase as we think will be another factor that will give us some lift to our EPS as we progress through the year. So Q1 is definitely at the lower end of the spectrum with more FX headwinds and not fully realizing these benefits yet. But as the year progresses, I would say the bulk of the assumed improvement we are making in EPS on sequential basis is based on us driving the restructuring plans we have, driving the execution plans we have. And progressing through this difficult environment with real focus on our optimization. So I would say it is largely within our control.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from the line Joe Radigan of KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Joe Radigan

Analyst

Good morning, thanks. First on Industrial Process, I think it makes sense to take a conservative view of end markets there. But how do you reconcile that with the order growth that you saw in Q4 with organic orders up 26% and really strong orders in oil and gas and mining?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

Those orders that we saw coming through in the fourth quarter were really on committed projects. And one that will be orders we are just flowing there. We do expect that as we get into the 2015 that you are going to see the order rate decline. We have factored that in to the analysis that we pulled together here. And so based on that and based on looking at the pipeline and what's out there this is what -- this is our best guess at this point so what it will look like.

Joe Radigan

Analyst

Okay. And then how much did the aftermarket business grow in IP last year and what are your expectations for 2015? And may be part two do that, you've had pretty significant organic growth in years past in this business. Have you started to see aftermarket volume pull through from some of the project installs that you had that occurred two or three years ago yet?

Tom Scalera

Analyst

Yes. Great question, Joe. I'll take a slightly different approach on it. If you look at our non oil and gas business in 2014 that business grew about 5%. And it is pretty similar to the expectations we have lining up for the non oil and gas business at IP in 2015. So there are lot puts and takes within that. But it is a fairly similar trajectory as we go through that but to your point and I'd say in mining and in chemical and other parts of our portfolio, we are seeing some nice progress in the aftermarket business based on the installed applications we have. Little slower ramp up on the oil and gas side of the aftermarket. Lot of the big projects we put on in the last four to five years is just now getting into that aftermarket phase. So the growth that we have seen in aftermarket has continued to accelerate in our non oil and gas businesses. But we are getting into the phase where I would expect to see continued build in the growth rates of our oil and gas related aftermarket.

Joe Radigan

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Tom. And then maybe one last question. You guys have been good at getting at least $100 million a year of productivity really since you spun. You're several years in now. How much runway is left there? And I'm assuming some of the low hanging stuff has already been picked off. So how long can you continue to get this sort of significant productivity run rate going forward?

Denise Ramos

Analyst

We started from a low point in terms of our LEAN activities. So we have a long runway, a very long runway in front of us here. And we still believe when we look at the facilities that we have, and we look at across the board, our LEAN activities, we think they are just right for continued improvement with it. So we are going to continue to drive it. It is one of our key goals as an organization to continue drives LEAN. When you think about where we are for 2015, we've got IP and all the works that's being done there to optimize these new facilities that we've got. In motion technologies, we've got LEAN, we are looking at press efficiencies in our Barge facility, and we've got our new Wuxi facility and building that out. We are getting LEAN associated with that. We are getting LEAN in KONI. We have been leaning out those facilities. In ICS, you see the benefits that we've got there. Control technologies, even with as well run as they are and as LEAN as they are continue to find opportunities. So this is a journey that just doesn't end. We are going to continue to drive productivity. We are going to continue to focus on and I think we've got a good runway ahead of us still.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. Please disconnect your line at this time. And have a wonderful day.