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Intrepid Potash, Inc. (IPI)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, May 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Intrepid Potash, Inc. Q1 2022 Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Evan Mapes, Investor Relations. Please, go ahead.

Evan Mapes

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss Intrepid's first quarter 2022 results. With me on the call today are Intrepid's Co-Founder, Executive Chairman, and CEO, Bob Jornayvaz; and Intrepid's CFO, Matt Preston. Also available to answer questions during the Q&A session following our prepared remarks will be our President, Brian Stone; and our Vice President of Sales and Marketing, Zachry Adams. Please be advised that our remarks today, including answers to your questions, include forward-looking statements as defined by US Securities Laws. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from those currently anticipated. These statements are based on the information available to us today, and we assume no obligation to update them. These risks and uncertainties are described in our periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are incorporated here by reference. During today's call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial and operational measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in yesterday's press release. And our SEC filings and press releases are available on our website at intrepidpotash.com. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Bob.

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

Devin, thank you very much, and good morning to everyone for joining us, and we really appreciate the attendance on the call and interest in Intrepid. First, I want to apologize in advance for any coughing, sniffling or sneezing. It's just about everything is blooming in Denver, and we've all got allergies. So I apologize. I'd like to start with some commentary on the markets before diving into the first quarter and the outlook for Intrepid. As everyone is aware, we currently have a multitude of macro supply chain and geopolitical events, help driving commodity prices near decade’s highs, and even record high prices in certain cases. Spot West Texas intermediate started 2022, priced just over $75, but now is well above $100 a barrel. In mid-April, natural gas futures eclipsed $8 per MMBtu, which previously hadn't occurred since 2008. Looking at key crops in North America, corn is currently trading at roughly $8 a bushel, a price not seen since 2012. Wheat and soybean prices show similar trends, with wheat trading just over $10 a bushel, the highest price since 2008. While soybeans are at almost $17 a bushel, which is the highest price since 2012. Prices for all agricultural commodities still support extremely strong margins for farmers. The December corn contract is trading at just under $7.50, September wheat is just under $11 and November beans are at about $15. Further to that, key international commodities that also use significant amounts of potash are showing significant strength. Palm oil prices reached a record high of over $1,900 per ton in early March and currently remain close to all-time high levels. Coffee is at roughly $2.20 a pound, was at the highest level seen since 2011, while the price of cocoa of just over $2,600 per ton is towards…

Matt Preston

Analyst

Thanks, Bob. As Bob said, we had an outstanding quarter with $50 million of EBITDA and $31 million of net income or $2.31 per diluted share. For those modeling future results, I will note, our first quarter tax rate was a bit lower due to a couple of state tax adjustments, and we still expect quarterly tax rates of about 26% going forward. On the nutrient side, the pricing outlook remains very positive, and we expect to be sold down to minimal inventories by the end of the summer across our potash facilities. From now until August and September, when we restart potash production, we will have all the tons necessary to meet our historic customers' needs, but also the inventory space and flexibility to move tons into other markets if necessary. During the first quarter, we ran into some wet weather in the Midwest and East at extremely dry weather in Texas and the West. Despite the challenging spring, we expect to be close to 130,000 tons sold for the first half. Spot pricing moved up again in April with a $50 per ton increase, which we have realized on spot sales and restock tons so far in the quarter. Second quarter average net realized sales price for potash is expected to increase to $720 to $730 per ton. We wrapped up our spring potash production season a couple of weeks ago, and we've seen a good start to the evaporation season, particularly at our HB facility as record dry weather continues to affect many parts of the Southwest. It remains early in the year, but we are encouraged by results so far, and we are on track to return to normal production rates with a much improved cost per ton in the second half of 2022. The Trio…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from Joel Jackson from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Alex Chen

Analyst

Hi. This is Alex Chen on for Joel Jackson. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question, given more cash on the balance sheet and a better liquidity position quarter-over-quarter. Can you elaborate on how that cash might be allocated? And if you can remind us of the expected pace of buyback and how that might have changed. For my second question, can you please, maybe provide us some color on how much of the Q3 potash order book where sales has been locked in? And how Intrepid might expect prices to move throughout 2022?

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

Alex, thanks for the question. I'll address the pace of buyback. As you know, as soon as we announced that buyback program, the market pretty much took off ahead of us. So, we're in the stages of formalizing our policy and how we're going to start to act on that and put that in place. So literally within days of our last earnings call, the market took off and is where it is. I can only tell you that we've got a committee that's put together a formal process, and we hope to continue updating as that goes on. As to the balance of your question, I'll let Matt take that.

Matt Preston

Analyst

Sure. As far as the Q3 order book, I'll flip back to Zach for any additional color, but we haven't taken any orders for Q3 at this point and really expect prices to remain relatively in line with first half as we look towards the back half of the year. Zach, anything else to add?

Zachry Adams

Analyst

Yes, I would just add that kind of what Matt is saying, we expect crop prices to remain strong, and we expect that to support a good application through the second half of the year.

Matt Preston

Analyst

Did that answer your question?

Alex Chen

Analyst

Yes. Just a quick follow-up. So do you expect the current prices in this environment to kind of flow into Q3, because you mentioned pricing staying relatively flat similar to first half? So I would assume in the $720 million, $730 million range?

Matt Preston

Analyst

Yes. We don't see a situation where prices lighten up or come down. We think that there's a tremendous amount of strength in this market for at least a couple of quarters. We assume that prices will remain pretty darn stable. There's just nothing out there on the, say, 12 to 18-month horizon, it would give rise to prices coming back down. So happy to continue to discuss that if you like our thoughts on that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thanks, Bob for answering my questions.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Vincent Andrews from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Will Tang

Analyst

Hi, guys. This is Will Tang on for Vincent. Thanks for taking my question. I guess, just as a follow-up to Alex's question, I mean, how are you guys thinking about kind of your summer fill program, I guess, particularly given the high prices that we're seeing right now and possibly some inventory risk for distributors if they decide to hold any potash over the summer?

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

We don't really see a need for a fill program. Obviously, we don't drive the market, but we're basically selling as much as we can or need to. So, there's really no reason for a typical fill program. I'll let Zach elaborate, but I'd be surprised to see a fill program this year. Zach, I don't know if you see it differently.

Zachry Adams

Analyst

Yes. I would kind of echo what Bob said. I think if you look over the last several quarters, we really haven't seen what I would call a traditional fill program be pushed by the producers here in North America. So people just continue to kind of layer in times as they need them, and that's what we expect kind of going into the second half of the year.

Will Tang

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then I guess…

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

Going back, Will, I just don't think we've seen a situation where you've got such a widely used commodity globally that is used by so many different people around the globe where approximately 30% to 40% of the capacity has been removed from the market. So there's really nothing on the horizon that would cause anyone to utilize a fill program because of the capacity that's just actually come off the market. I mean, I can't think of another commodity that is so widely used, where we've seen 30% to 40%. I mean, most commodities are priced around the margin with 3% to 5% of potential markets coming off. I can't think of a commodity like potash, where we -- where it's in such wide usage globally or such a significant percentage has been removed from the market.

Will Tang

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then I guess just on the potash cost side, I mean, it looks like you guys have kind of begun to work through some of that higher costs inventory leftover from last year. How quickly could we return to, I guess, the cost level comparable to 2019 and 2020? Is that like a feasible goal for the second half of this year, or would that be more of like a 2023 [ph] type story there?

Matt Preston

Analyst

Yes. Good question. Kind of the late 2019, 2020 cost levels, misses sort of all in what you see in the segments we show. Really, we're in the $230 to $240 per ton on potash, which has obviously grown here in the low 300s given the poor evaporation from 2021. We'll see that come down pretty quickly as we start harvesting tons from the 2022 summer evaporation season. So I think we'll see a pretty big step down for Q4 and then into Q1, we expect to be back at those normalized levels. Obviously, inflation has impacted us a touch, but it will be pretty quick for Q4 and Q1 of next year.

Will Tang

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Josh Spector from UBS. Please go ahead.

Josh Spector

Analyst

Yeah. Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just you've got a few projects underway across potash and Trio to expand production and some of that goes to the previous question about reducing the cost to produce. Just curious if there's a way to give an early thought about where production could be based on the projects you have underway for potash and Trio in 2023.

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

Yeah. Still very early, Josh. I mean, I appreciate the question. Certainly, we've done caverns in Moab before. And so you drill that cavern, we'll start to put some very strong, very high-grade brine into our ponds and really start to see that benefit towards the back half of 2023. For HB and Wendover, we'll start to see that a little bit sooner. As to overall production increases, I don't have specific numbers for you right now, but I certainly think we'll do two things. One, we'll get back up towards kind of the numbers we saw a little earlier for the HB facility when we first came online. And then they'll also help limit the downside of any four evaporation seasons we have, because we'll have additional brine and additional high-grade K. So it does two things for us. One, there's higher production potential, but two, it really limits the downside of a bad evaporation year overall in our system.

Josh Spector

Analyst

Okay. That makes sense. I appreciate that. And I guess, Bob, earlier, you offered to opine a bit on some of your thoughts about the potash outlook. I'd be curious on hearing that just from the stance of you kind of continue to mention that there's nothing that could really change the near-term outlook or medium-term outlook in your view. I guess we get the question a lot about this. Globally, we've become more concerned about food supply and food costs, if there's going to be some intervention or change in approach to how the world views fertilizers and perhaps help separate those from other sanctions and concerns still. I guess do you think that's something that could play out, or what are your thoughts at this point?

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

I guess I would compare it to -- and I apologize for my terminology when I look at the Energy business. I think there's a lot of people that would like to go to, what I call energy Disneyland, but they haven't shown you the bridge to get there. And so, it's the same way with the fertilizer market. When you look at the nitrogen products, phosphate and potash, we've all seen the potash holidays of 2009 and 2010, but we also saw yield destruction. And given our current supply situation, in all these major commodities, agricultural commodities, it's very hard to see that if you reduce your fertilizer usage that you're going to be able to stay on the same yield trajectory. So when you look at Tech Brazil, for example, a 20% decrease or a 15% decrease in potash consumption is going to definitely reduce soybean yields and yields on other commodities, which keep farmer economics extremely strong. I get your question of how does that affect consumers at the grocery store. I think there is a point at which consumers have become so used to extremely plentiful cheap food at the grocery store, and we're now part of the national discussion, if you will. We spent a couple of days in D.C. last week. And we're beginning gas -- we're asked questions that we've never been asked before about food security and how people should think about it. I think what we're going to see is just very strong, call them inflationary markets. If you choose to use that word. I would say, strong markets for several quarters ahead of us. I keep telling our group around here that, we believe this situation will last at least 18 months to 2 years after the Russian-Ukrainian situation is completed. And let's be honest, there's sort of a forgive and forget mentality around the world, so this won't go on forever. The hand of Adam Smith will come back to work at some place. We just don't know when that's going to be. We've got really good clarity on the next 12, 18 months, call it 24 months, and that's what we're focused on. I do think that even after that, it's going to be hard to get back to normal. So once again, that's just one man's opinion. I don't know if I answered your question or if that was helpful or not?

Josh Spector

Analyst

No, that's helpful. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Jason Ursaner from Bumbershoot Holdings. Please go ahead.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Just kind of following up on the last one. There were a lot of questions you focus on price and I guess not the length of the cycle. And I think the term you used was demand thoughtfulness and I think nutrient on their call this morning, the demand rationalization rather than the idea of destruction. I guess, just can you walk through a little more of the underlying crop economics? And how do you see the length of the cycle playing out in terms of being multiyear and when some of this could get resolved over the next two, three, four years?

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

I think the good news is, I would suggest that history repeats itself. And if we go back and we look at 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, we didn't have the overall entire agricultural sector trading at the kind of margins that it was trading at. But much more importantly, we had the Canadians that still felt like they had the old build oil potash style and they could dial up the tonnage. I would suggest that we're right back where we were in ’08, that if the Canadians have the tons, they're out there selling them as we speak. We do know that the Eastern European tons, the Belarusian tons, those mines are actually shutdown. And we do know that EuroChem has put a hold on every expansion project that was ongoing and that the EuroChem production has been redirected to different parts of the world. So, what is different this time, and I hate using those words because as soon as you say, it's different this time, it turns out to be the same. But I would suggest that the, Russian and Ukrainian situation has changed things for some period of time. While in the midst of extremely strong farmer margins on everything from palm oil, to coffee, to cocoa, to corn, to cotton we didn't see that in '08 and '09. People in ’09 and ’10 could afford to call – we've never heard before, pick a potash holiday and they did. Let's be honest, the price of potash should have come down because we had more capacity come on the market in 2009. And it was available. But prices did not come down, and that led to the new concept of a holiday. But where we are today is just about everyone that we're aware of, is really tapped out. I mean, we've talked to several customers, that can't physically get potash. That wasn't the case in 2008 and 2009. And -- they were making very specific choices, not to buy. They are making a specific choice, to take a holiday. So, I don't know if we use rationing, destruction, thoughtfulness, I don't know what the word is, but when you take 30% to 40% of such a widely used commodity, off the market, it has impacts. And we're seeing it today. So Jason, I don't know if that maybe more sense -- that's how we're looking at it.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

It answers. I guess, it seems like people are very focused on the price in the short-term versus the length that it could last with -- I mean, everyone's saying, global men, I guess, will be down this year, which was -- you're talking about less demand, less fertilizers, less yield higher crop prices that kind of lengthens it. Yeah. I think I guess what I'm asking. I guess with that, is there any strategic or regulatory encouragement or maybe even financial incentives to try to reopen West? Is there like a cash level you'd get to, where you feel maybe more comfortable to take a swing on opening it where obviously, with the risk of supply coming back online at some point from Russia that it would still make sense financially to try to reopen it?

Zachry Adams

Analyst

It's a great question. We've got a small team looking at it. I don't want to give any false hope. I think it's a long shot for us to reopen that in the short-term. I think we're going to see how some of this plays out a little bit more.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Okay.

Zachry Adams

Analyst

It's nice to have it. It's a great ore zone. And it's an ore zone that is definitely available for solution mining. So we've looked at it in a variety of ways. I'll just put that out there. It was mined in the first ore zone, which was one of the best ore zones at, Carlsbad, New Mexico. So…

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Right.

Zachry Adams

Analyst

… it's a great question. It shows your knowledge of our company. So thank you for that, Jason. All I say is we're looking at it in a lot of different ways.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Okay. And on the HB mine, in terms of the cost per ton, I guess, how are you looking at the cost in terms of the charges that you took when you sort of knew there was a weather issue. I think that was in Q4 versus what actually got expensed or just can't get spread around as well that you would have taken the hit on now as you're actually selling this because I guess the charge you took was to get into like a reasonable level of price, but it's still -- I'm assuming elevated relative to getting on track for normal production and that's without the new injector system and anything. I'm not sure if that question makes sense, but I'm trying to get what -- how elevator are prices at HB that are coming through now even with the charges you took?

Matt Preston

Analyst

Yes. So certainly, a little more elevated compared to normal and kind of goes back to one of the previous questions. Just looking at our cost of goods sold to buy sales tons, we're at 3.19% for Q1. And like I said, we expect that to come down pretty significantly here once we start production back up and kind of stair-step down Q4 and Q1 back into the range of that 2019 and 2020 when we -- when we were -- our cost of goods sold was in the $230 to $240 range pretty consistently.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Okay. And then--

Matt Preston

Analyst

So, it's still having a significant impact, I guess, is maybe the quick answer to your question, sorry, Jason.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

No, no problem. And then the HB Green project, it had been set for, I guess, to start trial but how the phrase you used in the second half from last quarter, I didn't see any update or hear any update on that so far? Is that still tracking on progress--?

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

Jason, Brian sitting here next to me. I apologize, we basically covered as many things as we could, but I'll have Brian give you an update on some of the things that they're actually ongoing and boxes that are getting checked. Brian?

Brian Stone

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Jason, for asking that question. So, we're progressing towards a pilot project. I think that's the word you were looking for, which is being overseen by the New Mexico Environmental Department in the produced water consortium. We're in the process of doing design work, laboratory tests on produced water. So, we're on track with what we told you in the last earnings call. It's an interesting project, and it's moving towards a pilot project.

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

And don't forget, we're doing that in conjunction with the state, if you will, the New Mexico produced water consortium, which is part of the NMED in the state. So, we don't get to run on Intrepid time. We have to run on the state's time.

Jason Ursaner

Analyst

Got you. Okay. Appreciate the answers. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bob Jornayvaz for any closing remarks.

Bob Jornayvaz

Analyst

I want to thank everyone for their time this morning, and their interested in Intrepid. I wish everybody a great day and look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.