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Ingredion Incorporated (INGR)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Tue, May 5, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Quarter One 2020 Ingredion Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Ms. Tiffany Willis, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Tiffany Willis

Analyst

Good morning and welcome to Ingredion’s first quarter 2020 earnings call. I’m Tiffany Willis, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications Officer. And I’m happy to be with you today. With me today at safe social distances are Jim Zallie, our President and CEO; and Jim Gray, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our results were issued this morning in a press release that can be found on our website, ingredion.com, in the Investors section. The slides accompanying this presentation can also be found on the website and were posted a few hours ago for your convenience. As a reminder, our comments within this presentation may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties. These statements include expectations and assumptions regarding the Company’s future operation and financial performance including the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. Actual results could differ materially from those predicted in the forward-looking statements, and Ingredion assumes no obligation to update them in the future, as, or if circumstances change. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed during today’s conference call or in this morning’s press release, can be found in the Company’s most recently filed Annual Report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports on Forms 10-Q and 8-K. During this call, we also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted earnings per share, adjusted operating income, and adjusted effective tax rate, which are reconciled to U.S. GAAP measures in Note 2 non-GAAP information included in our press release and in today’s presentation’s appendix. And with that, I’m pleased to turn the call over to Jim Zallie.

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Thank you, Tiffany. I want to open by saying that I hope every one of you that is joining us today, your families and your loved ones are staying safe and healthy. For anyone who has been directly affected by illness as a result of the virus, our heartfelt thoughts are with you. This is an extraordinary moment in time for all of us. The Corona virus has affected every business in the world. Together, we are navigating a global health crisis that is bigger and more widespread than anything we have witnessed in our lifetime. I would like to take a moment to pay tribute and express our thanks to all the healthcare professionals, first care -- first responders and other essential services workers on the front lines for all they are doing. Also, I want to expressly thank our Ingredion employees for keeping our operations running smoothly and continuing to deliver ingredients and solutions to our customers. The challenges presented by the pandemic are bringing out the best in many people, and it has been motivating to witness the leadership being displayed both inside and outside of our Company. Today, our objective on this call is to provide a picture and a perspective of what we have been seeing since the pandemic hit. The current dynamics in our business and the actions we have been taking to not only manage through but to quickly adapt and make sure we are well positioned to emerge stronger. Beginning in January, we started to see disruptions from COVID-19 in China and we activated our global crisis management team on January 11th. By early March, we had transitioned this into a global pandemic response team, directing all activities through a project management office that immediately began coordinating, tracking and planning business impact…

Jim Gray

Analyst

Thank you. Jim. Net sales of $1,543 million were flat for the quarter versus prior year. Gross profit margin was up 30 basis points. Reported and adjusted operating incomes were $153 million and $167 million, respectively. Reported operating income was lower than adjusted operating income due to asset closures and restructuring costs related to Cost Smart. Our reported and adjusted earnings per share were $1.11 and $1.59, respectively. First quarter net sales of $1,543 million were flat versus prior year. We experienced unfavorable foreign currency impacts of $40 million. Although volume was flat, favorable price mix contributed $43 million to the net sales increase, offsetting currency weakness. In North America, net sales were up slightly versus prior year. Price mix was up 2%, offset by lower volumes. South America net sales were up 4% with price mix up 9% and volume of 6%, more than offsetting foreign currency weakness. In APAC, net sales were down 7% due to the early impact of COVID-19 in the quarter, which impacted volume. Price mix was lower due to pass-through of lower tapioca raw material costs. EMEA net sales were flat as favorable price mix and volume growth were offset by foreign exchange. For the quarter, reported operating income decreased $8 million while adjusted operating income increased by $1 million. The decrease in reported operating income was driven by asset closures and restructuring costs related to Cost Smart. Region operating income growth was offset by the corporate costs which increased by $10 million due to higher legal and IT project costs and continued investments to drive innovation and streamline global processes. Turning to our earnings bridge. On the left side of the page, you can see the reconciliation from reported to adjusted. On the right side, operationally, we saw an increase of $0.03 per…

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Thanks, Jim. Before closing, I would like to spend a few minutes talking about how our strategy and our Driving Growth Roadmap are serving us well during these turbulent times. Our strategy is built upon four pillars: Number one, a purpose and performance-driven culture with an emphasis on people; two, commercial excellence with a commitment to our customers; three, Cost Smart with a focus on cash; and four, driving specialties growth with an alignment to markets and trends. Our entire organization is being guided by these four pillars, and we are committed to executing the key elements of our Driving Growth Roadmap to create value for all stakeholders. As you know, the centerpiece of our roadmap is our five specialty growth platforms, which are well-positioned to drive net sales growth. As evidence of our Company’s agility and commitment to execute our strategy, despite the challenges, I’m pleased that even during the pandemic, we reached an agreement on the strategic acquisition of PureCircle. PureCircle is an industry recognized leader and innovator with a proven track record for producing great tasting, naturally based stevia ingredients. The pending acquisition of PureCircle allows us to strengthen our business model, aligning with one of the most important food and beverage trends shaping the industry, sugar reduction. By leveraging Ingredion’s global footprint and customer lists, we will be able to bring great tasting, high-quality, non-GMO stevia ingredients to a more diverse and broader customer base. In addition to the commercial benefits, the acquisition presents opportunities for increased operating efficiency. We continue to progress the deal through applicable regulatory and shareholder approvals until closing, which is anticipated in the third quarter. We look forward to working with the Pure Circle team and updating you on the exciting prospects for this acquisition in future calls. We’re also proud that at a time when making a positive difference for the world is more important than ever. We advanced our vision for sustainability. On Earth Day, we launched our ninth annual sustainability report, putting forward 2030 sustainability goals aligned with the UN’s sustainable development goals and established the bold commitments to sustainably source 100% of our five leading raw material crops, corn, tapioca, peas, and stevia by 2025. With a clear strategy, a roadmap for growth, and a strong adaptable business model that has endured many tough as well as benign cycles, combined with a focused and committed team, I am confident in our future and our ability to create lasting value for our stakeholders. Thanks for your attention. And now, let’s open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Heather Jones is Heather Jones Research. Your line is now open.

Heather Jones

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for taking the questions.

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Hey, Heather.

Robert Moskow

Analyst

Hi. So, one is just a quick clarification. I didn’t catch all the outlook language for different regions. Did you say that EBIT for South America, you expect it to be down in Q2?

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Yes. So, let me take that first and just talk about how we view Q2. So, when we look at the forecast for quarter two, we’re taking into account, at what phase each region has been impacted and is being impacted by the rate of infection and how that is impacting consumer behavior and also government mandates for stay-at-home restrictions. And so, what I would say is that in three of the four regions, excluding South America, we’re taking a conservative view to quarter two that will be down in EBITDA in the low to mid -- EBIT, I’m sorry, EBIT, in the low to mid teens. Asia Pacific might actually do better than that based on how April was coming in where we’ve been pleasantly surprised. In South America, operating income is likely to be down much more significantly, based on the fact that that region is being hit hardest now. They are equally in the southern hemisphere and entering flu season right now and the number of cases there continues to increase. We have seen the foodservice sector in South America getting hit very hard starting in the third week, the last week in March throughout April, but we’re seeing a recovery in May, and the recovery is actually even stronger than we had anticipated just a few days ago. So, it’s somewhat hard to predict. But, we predict -- we anticipate that South America will be impacted worse than the other three regions in quarter two.

Heather Jones

Analyst

Okay. But, it sounds like it’s very much in rapid flux. Is that a fair characterization?

Jim Zallie

Analyst

It very much is, except for I would say Asia where the bounce back has been stronger than we had anticipated, especially in China. And April results for us in Asia have been above our expectations. And that’s why, I would say that we’re cautiously optimistic that we won’t be down in EBIT in the low to mid teens in Asia. We might actually outperform that. But, in North America and in EMEA, due to the impact in EMEA, for example of Pakistan and the shutdowns there and the impacts on the textile industry, that’s how we’re calling it right now.

Heather Jones

Analyst

Okay. That’s encouraging to hear. Corporate expense, you mentioned that the stay-at-home guidelines et cetera are trimming expenses. So, I think previous guidance had been for that to be up 15% to 20% year-on-year. How are you guys seeing that now? Because it came in higher than I was expecting for Q1.

Jim Gray

Analyst

Sure. So, part of corporate expense though is also having to do with some of the longer term compensation, which is -- held at corporate, we reset from prior year. And so, we just -- we encountered that. But what we’re also seeing is that we had some legal expenses as we were going through the PureCircle transaction, which are impacting Q1. So, that’s related to timing. But generally, we should see discretionary expenses like T&E much, much lower. And we should also see some of the kind of third-party expenses much lower as we’re -- as the entire company from an administrative and from a managerial side is working remotely.

Heather Jones

Analyst

So, you would think consolidated corporate expense is going to be up less than the 15% to 20% you originally anticipated?

Jim Gray

Analyst

Yes.

Heather Jones

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And my final question is, wondering -- and I get the complexity of your different end markets and all. But, I was wondering if you could give us sort of like broad strokes, a sense of how your sales roughly break down by foodservice versus retail, specifically North America and South America, given the size of those regions, if you can give us a sense of that?

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Yes. It varies by region and it varies by country. And in North America, I would say, it’s in the 20% to 25% range is into foodservice. And in South America, depends on how you define foodservice, relative to the size of the brewing business that we have. But, brewing is how we categorize mainly in South America, specifically in Brazil and Colombia, the exposure to foodservice. But, I would say, it’s a little bit -- it’s a higher proportion in South America, which is just due to brewing.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Robert Moskow with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Robert Moskow

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

The plant-based investments that you’re making, do you see any risks to your sales outlook, because of that end market’s exposure to foodservice? Like, I would imagine that restaurant sales and plant-based burgers will be negatively impacted. And then, one clarification. Your brewery business in Mexico in North America, about how big is that as a percentage of your North American sales? Thanks.

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Yes. I’m going to let Jim Gray get to that question. Let me take the plant-based protein question first. And then, I’ll turn it over to Jim to talk about Mexico and brewing. The plant-based protein investment in South Sioux City continues to move ahead, scheduled for completion now in quarter three. As it relates to the outlook for plant-based foods, we’re still very bullish on it. The sales of the market leader in this particular case beyond meat, I believe has 50%, to your point, of their sales that go to foodservice, 50% at retail. Foodservice is obviously being impacted right now hard, but retail sales for their products in the first three months were up, I think 300%, so. And I believe they have their earnings today. So, we’ll see how they’re breaking that out. But, I don’t know if that’s going to more than compensate for the decline in foodservice. But, we anticipate the same sort of trends that quick service restaurants where a lot of those products are sold, will be picking up once the stay-at-home orders are relaxed. But also, what we’re seeing in relationship to foodservice is different sub-segments of foodservice getting impacted differentially. So, quick-service restaurants that are already set up for drive-thrus are going to weather this better than others and already have implemented contactless pickups when you pick-up your food from a drive-thru, it’s being presented to you on a tray, for example and not being touched. So, we anticipate foodservice and quick-service restaurants where a lot of those products are being sold to come back more quickly and retail to actually continue strong. But overall, this trend towards plant-based eatings, especially when you look at some of the concerns around the meat supply right now, I think it’s only going to bring heightened focus on plant-based diets. So, we’re very bullish on the long-term in relationship to this and comfortable with the fact that when our investment does commission and we qualify product for food grade sales, which takes a couple few months, that by that time we’ll be in a much more steady state where foodservice will have recovered to a large degree and food at retail will continue to benefit from the fact that people who eat plant-based diets have actually dependent upon them for their at-home consumption. And so, again, we’re very optimistic in relationship to the plant-based trend and how it will continue through this pandemic. Jim, on Mexico?

Jim Gray

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Rob, most of the brewing manufacturing sites in Mexico have been ordered close by the government, so significantly limiting kind of production and resupply. So, as a result, the demand for our adjuncts will likely be lower until that production resumes kind of later in the second quarter, we anticipate that kind of late May, early June. Sale of our brewing adjuncts in Mexico, so, it’s approximately 3% of our Company net sales. I think, you asked about North America, so it’d be about 6% of North America. And just as one final thought, the brew remains available on store shelves and convenience and grocery channels. It’s just that the inventories are being depleted. So, there’ll be a run to restock those shelves, once the government allows domestic brewing and domestic resupply.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ken Zaslow with Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

Ken Zaslow

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

So, a couple of questions. What do you think the lasting impact on your business will be when you come out of this? Do think there’ll be anything structurally that you’ll need to change or that will either be positive or negative?

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

Well, I think, one of the first lasting impacts is going to be the way we work internally, first of all, as an organization. We have been maintaining very close contact with our employees. We have implemented two pulse surveys, since the pandemic started where we’re soliciting feedback and learning and understanding the ways of working, for example. And I’ll just give you one example. Obviously, most businesses, us included, 90% probably of our office workers, are working remotely on a global basis throughout this pandemic, as this is unfolded. And what we’ve learned is that a very large percentage of them can be very productive working remotely. We had already implemented flexible remote work policy where people could work remotely, with supervisor approval, one or two days a week, prior to this. So, we moved into this pretty seamlessly, when we went to full time remote. But, an example would be customer service. We have metrics in relationship to how we measure customer closeout responses. And those have actually increased, and the quality of those has actually increased. And the feedback we’ve gotten from our customer service people that have been equipped to work remotely is that -- the fact that they’re uninterrupted and they’re just totally focused, they can actually be that much more productive and efficient. So, that’s something that’s unique, that’s going to come out of this. I think, the way that we have -- we’re going to be organized in the workplace and more mindful of the way things were prior to in open seated office areas, for example, we’ll maybe go back to a little bit more of cubicles and some barriers to give people some privacy and some physical distancing that makes them feel comfortable. And certainly, we’ve implemented that in our factories. And also, I think you’re going to see the use of technology continuing to allow us to help protect the health and safety of our employees as things go forward. And then, just in relationship to business in general, I think that there’s going to be certain trends that are going to endure through this that will be consumer trends that we’ll need to pivot towards. And some of these are already manifesting themselves right now, and we’re going to be following those very, very closely. And they’ll create opportunities for us as well. Jim?

Jim Gray

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

And Ken, I’d add that not all of your customers are equally prepared for this type of disruption. And so, you find that you can share best practices with those customers that are extremely well prepared. But, the bottom end of the performance chart, you’re actually able to work more with and help along, right, and really support, so that things like inventory is available and can be shipped at a moment’s notice. And so, I think that the supply chain overall strengthens. And then, Jim has talked about, and we’ve talked about a while in terms of the face of foodservice is probably going to change, but orders that are going to be delivered to home or on the go where there’s certain aspects of our functional ingredients that can help to innovate with regard to heat retention and stability, those are going to be even kind of more exciting opportunities for us as we go forward.

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

And just lastly, I do think you’re going to see more of an emphasis on person’s personal health. And so, for example, everyone has heard the term comorbidity in relationship to COVID-19 and being at a higher risk with diabetes and high blood pressure. So, health and wellness will I think take an even larger place in priorities of consumers. So, for us, the acquisition of PureCircle and sugar reduction to cater to people that want to control their sugar intake, which is a very, very large percentage in North America, with 85% of North Americans reduced their sugar intake over the last few years. So, I think that bodes really well for us as we’re positioned now with PureCircle.

Ken Zaslow

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

Thank you. My second question is, with the reduction of foodservice in the U.S., I’m assuming carbonated soft drinks has kind of come down. How is that either probably stressing the supply chain on the corn processing, obviously led by the [indiscernible], but how is that hurting the supply chain in corn processing? Is there going to be a backup? Can you get through the materials? Are you swinging capacity? How does that all play out and how does that kind of lead to 2021 and beyond?

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

Yes. I think for us right now, it’s really, I think too early to tell. I think that, again, if the same kind of consumption patterns follow that we’re seeing in Asia, transition to Europe, transition to North America and then South America, and this is a six to eight-week decline and then a slow steady recovery. I think that the industry will be able to transition through this. But, we’re monitoring. It’s very early days right now. We’re feeling that we’re not as exposed to foodservice on the sweetener side, as much as maybe we had in prior years the way we’ve optimized our network and the customer base that we sell to. So, we feel that for us it’s just too early to predict exactly how this is going to play out.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Adam Samuelson with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. So, I was hoping, Jim to get a little bit more color on it. I know you don’t give guidance per se. But kind of the low to mid teens decline in operating profit in the second quarter. And I guess, I’m really thinking about North America and just any framework you could provide on deconstructing that between volume, kind of mix costs under absorption and net corn cost. I’m just trying to think about the interplay of those, understanding it’s a very volatile environment. And then, I got follow-up.

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Yes. Jim, do you want to take that?

Jim Gray

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Yes, sure. Adam, I’d break the problem down first in just in terms of Mexico and the fact that with the shipment of adjuncts into brewing, just stopping for a period of time. That’s a significant kind of Q2, one-off impact to the business. And then, what we’re seeing is a mixture within either of the U.S.-Canada business or the Mexico business between falloff in foodservice, whether that be fountain, carbonated soft drinks or in terms of some of the ingredients that we would offer in to kind of savory solutions in foodservice. But, we also see the counterbalance really in terms of center-of-store packaged foods take-up. And so, I kind of say that yes, there’s a bit of a softer, in terms of syrup, demand into beverages, CSDs, which is generally impacting us across both, U.S.-Canada as well as Mexico. And then also just the brewing is probably the bigger one…

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

So, Jim, is it fair to say this that if you break out North America, to your point, the brewing industry, most brewing manufacturers in Mexico had been ordered to close by the government, and are -- we’re taking a conservative view that they will not come back on stream until the end of May to early June. So, that’s in that guidance that we provided. So, that’s the view we have. If they come up sooner, that could change that outlook. In U.S.-Canada, the view is all the puts and takes, the positives on the net corn side -- on the recovery rates on corn as well as on the cost side with TD, et cetera, along with the reductions in volume that we’re seeing, foodservice, et cetera are less impactful, but it’s more Mexico being down and U.S.-Canada being less down. And we provided you the perspective, we have one when that recovery in Mexico brewery will take place. That’s fair to say, right?

Jim Gray

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Yes.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

That was helpful. And then, just South America, just want to -- so one, just as you think about the declines in the economy and the issues, the slower entry into some of the slowdowns from a volume perspective, I mean, maybe any similar thoughts in terms of how you’re thinking of the shape of the demand curve? And also, just -- I noticed, in Argentina, you’ve moved to hyperinflationary accounting and it was accounted for in U.S dollars this quarter, which is a change versus prior. Just making sure if there was any below-the-line adjustments there as an offset, now that the segment was actually in U.S. dollars?

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Let me let Jim answer the question on Argentina and I’d just like to comment on the demand curve.

Jim Gray

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Yes. So, Argentina, on the hyperinflationary, we moved last year. And so, that’s not been, what we’re doing is we’re just -- we’re taking it out and clarifying the adjusted, when we’re talking about adjusted op income, the impact for hyperinflation is down in financing costs.

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Yes. And then, just one, demand in South America -- and let me talk specifically about brewing volumes in both, Brazil and in Colombia, but from the end of March through April due to the stay-at-home orders, approximately 70% -- there’s been a 70% reduction in brewing volumes in that period of time, that five, six-week period of time, and confectionary volumes as well being down very similar. That’s something that we also saw in Asia during the early parts of this crisis. A lot of those were impulse purchases made at small locations, certainly kiosks, think about airports, et cetera. So, they have been down. What I will say is that we are seeing brewing recovering strongly, and we’re cautiously optimistic. Again, it started to ramp back up here in May very strongly, which indicates that there’s a pent-up need to fill pipelines and the channels. So, we’re optimistic that things will continue throughout the second quarter with that recovery. I think confectionary is going to be a little bit of a slower recovery, just due to the nature of how those products are purchased.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Ben Bienvenu with Stephens. Your line is now open.

Ben Bienvenu

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks. Good morning, everyone. I want to ask on the corn side. Obviously, we’ve seen corn prices come down a lot, basis has come down a lot. We’ve seen the co-products, corn oil in particular with all the ethanol production capacity coming offline. Corn oil is a lot tighter. I’m curious, you’re starting now getting into the period where you might start to think about hedging out some of the rest of the year as we’re into planting season. Can you talk about what ability or window you have to lock in for some of these lower net corn costs, and how you think that might contribute to potentially alleviating some of the operating profit pressure in the back half of the year at all?

Jim Gray

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

Sure, I’ll take that. So, Ben, one of the things that we highlighted in Q1’s performance for North America was that the segment operating income was relatively flat. We actually did experience some significant corn hedge mark to market in Q1 that’ll come back to us the balance of the year. So, as we’re seeing lower corn futures and we’ve laid in some of those futures relative to our production needs, so we’ll benefit for that for the balance of the year. Plus also, as we highlighted, you’re seeing basically generally higher co-product values. And to remind everybody that it really benefits us more in North America in the second half and more towards the fourth quarter, if we look at our LAP versus prior year. When we look forward and we get more news about plantings and acreage, and we look at the kind of lower gross corn costs that’s either delivered to us as we go through summer and/or as we’re looking at the futures for 2021, we have an ability to go forward and secure those futures such that we can kind of meet any type of revenue or pricing expectations for our customers. So, we’re kind of always looking at what we have in front of us, usually looking out probably two to three quarters in front of us, and then also then thinking about how as we roll that calendar forward, how we’re thinking about what the first half of ‘21 looks like.

Ben Bienvenu

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

Okay. On the operational continuity side, what, if any, have you seen with additional expenses that might linger and allowing you all to have business operational continuity in facilities? I recognize that these facilities don’t have a ton of people on them. But, what incremental expenses are there at all that could linger through the duration of this year and potentially into next year, and are they material?

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

Yes. I would say that the cost of incremental PP&E as well as the efforts for increased sanitization, those are costs that will likely continue. But for the most part, they’ve been relatively modest. Our procurement team has done a phenomenal job of making sure that all of our sites around the world have the required and ample PPE. So, that’s been coordinated again through this project management office that I talked about. And that will be an incremental expense, but again it’s modest in the overall scheme of things.

Jim Gray

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

Maybe, Ben, I’d say the one unknown is to what degree each community around our facilities as well as around our offices either have a return of flash outbreaks and we need to do testing. And so, right now, the frequency of testing or that is still kind of an unknown cost to us.

Jim Zallie

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is now open.

And we have that as a separate work stream that we’re looking at as part of our project management office to determine whether and if and how we would provide testing. And that’s something that we’re working on. It’s just too early to tell exactly how we’re going to approach that. But, it is a separate work stream that we’re looking at.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next question is a follow-up from Heather Jones with Heather Jones Research. Your line is now open.

Heather Jones

Analyst

Thank you for follow-up. I just had a quick question. You mentioned pipeline replenishment once brewers start brewing again in Mexico. But, I was wondering if you could give us a sense of -- like you had mentioned QSR in North America has recovered fairly nicely. And could you give us a sense of like what’s the normal lag between their recovery pattern, and when you would start to see it in your order patterns?

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Yes. So, let me go back and clarify what I did say in relationship to foodservice. And the question is, specifically talk about North America. So, what I would say is that in North America foodservice impacts to us started to be felt more in the second half of April. And they are continuing into May. The impact overall that we anticipate from foodservice will be varied, depending on the sub-segment of foodservice. And what I was trying to highlight is that I believe that quick-service restaurants where we do sell products, either directly to or indirectly to, to other manufacturers that produce for quick-service restaurants will be less impacted in comparison to casual dining, certainly fine dining. And so, we see that recovering, if it follows the same pattern as what happened in China, in probably four to six weeks is what we anticipate.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have a follow-up from Robert Moskow from Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Robert Moskow

Analyst

Just one clarity thing. Your interest expense in the quarter being down versus a year ago, but you’re also including the hyperinflation impact in Argentina in that number. Can you quantify what that impact was, and so we could look at the true interest expense run rate?

Jim Gray

Analyst

Yes. I want to say that the hyperinflation included in that was about a $2 million impact year-over-year, Rob.

Robert Moskow

Analyst

Oka. So, that means your normal interest expense was about 16?

Jim Gray

Analyst

And then, we have -- I’d have also some gains, some -- also the various hedging gains losses in that as well, right, just from normal -- we’re having good [Technical Difficulty] shipping there, little bit lower than 16 on my net interest cost, yes, per quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I’m showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I’d like to turn the call back to Jim Zallie for any closing remarks.

Jim Zallie

Analyst

Okay. Thank you everybody for your time and attention today. We look forward to discussing our business further with you on May 13th when we will participate in the BMO Farm to Market conference. In addition, we will also hold our annual meeting of stockholders virtually on May 20th at 9:00 a.m. Central Time. Again, thank you for your time today. And I hope everyone stays safe and healthy as we navigate this pandemic together.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation on today’s conference. This does conclude your program and you may now disconnect.