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Independent Bank Corp. (INDB)

Q2 2012 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 20, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Independent Bank Corp second quarter 2012 earnings call and webcast. All participants will be in listen only mode. (Operator Instructions) After today’s presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded. Before proceeding let me mention that this call may contain forward-looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operations, and business of Independent Bank Corp actual results may be different. Independent Bank Corp cautions you against unduly relying upon any forward-looking statements and disclaims any intent to update publicly any forward-looking statements whether in response to new information, future events, or otherwise. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Christopher Oddleifson, President and CEO. Mr. Oddleifson, please go ahead, sir.

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

With me is Denis Sheahan our Chief Financial Officer who will elaborate on our financial results and the outlook following my comments. Now our business momentum continues to build nicely and operating fundamentals are as strong as ever. However, second quarter results were a real disappointment due to an unforeseen occurrence. As a result, core net income came in at $9.3 million or $0.43 a share and there’s no getting around it, this is well below your and our performance expectations. Earlier this month we were hit with an unpleasant surprise. We uncovered a potential borrower fraud on a $5.3 million credit in our commercial loan portfolio. While the situation is still in an early stage, we felt compelled to take an early action to put it behind us. Consequently, we charged off $4 million of the loan which we recognized in the second quarter. This served to depress EPS by $0.11 a share. Denis will be covering this in more detail but let me offer several observations. Now, I can assure you this is most definitely not a case of relaxed underwriting or deficit credit monitoring on our part. Our borrower had until very recently been performing. Their abrupt placement into a state court receivership came as a real surprise. Now material misstatements and invalid or altered borrower records have been uncovered and needless to say we’re more than a little perturbed by this turn of events and we will vigorously pursue any and all potential sources of recovery but wanted to be both aggressive and realistic in our loss recognition. Absent this occurrence, our original credit guidance for the full year would have been unchanged. Now, we consider this to be an isolated event and feel our Q2 performance was otherwise a good one. Beyond a credit issue,…

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

The $0.11 charge resulting from the $4 million charge off on the potential loan fraud that Chris mentioned on the part of one of our commercial borrowers has clearly clouded what was otherwise a really great quarter for the company. In the second quarter, Independent Bank Corp reported GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.41 as compared to $0.56 per share in the first quarter. Excluding merger costs related to the pending acquisition of Central Bancorp in the second quarter, diluted earnings per share on an operating basis were $0.43. I’ll first speak to the potential borrower fraud. Before I provide details, let me reiterate Chris’ earlier point that we strongly believe our underwriting and account management practices were absolutely appropriate here. The charge off is the result of an isolated incident of apparent fraud by the principles of a 30-year-old established firm. Our exposure to this borrower results from a working capital line of credit of $5.3 million and a separate real estate loan of about $500,000 entered into a little over a year ago. The real estate loan is currently well secured. The larger line was entered into following a field examine of collateral by a reputable third-party firm that was conducted as a condition to our making the loan. During the second quarter of this year, questions arose regarding the level of cooperation by the borrower even as the loan remained fully current. We hired another independent third-party firm to review collateral and uncovered serious issues. We met with the borrower to discuss these findings. Shortly afterward in late June, the company was unexpectedly placed into state court receivership. In July the receiver confirmed that our borrower maintained invalid or altered business records and materially overstated the amount of accounts receivable and inventory collateral. After learning the…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Damon Delmonte of Keefe, Bruyette & Woods.

Damon Del Monte

Analyst · Keefe, Bruyette & Woods

Could you just repeat what you were saying before about the analysis you performed on your home equity loans and the relation with the first position with another bank?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

As you probably know, Damon, the regulators came out with guidance associated with second position mortgages and you need to monitor what’s going on with the first position that’s held with another financial institution. So, there are ways that you can now do that through advanced credit scoring type processes. We went out on our $310 million roughly of second position mortgages and we did a very thorough analysis and based upon that analysis, we were able to determine that we needed to put $4.2 million of our home equity lines on non-accrual. They’re performing for us, they are paying us, but they are delinquent. There’s a level of delinquency with the first position lender.

Damon Del Monte

Analyst · Keefe, Bruyette & Woods

As far as the net charge offs for the quarter, $8.4 million with the $4 of it related to that one commercial credit, can you just repeat what you said the other difference was?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

There was a $600,000 charge off on a commercial loan that we thought would come in Q3 or maybe Q4 but the issue got resolved sooner than we anticipated so it pulled the charge off forward so that’s about $600,000 of my variance. The rest of it is in home equity. Home equity charge offs were a little higher than we anticipated. One of the things that it’s clearly happening now is the larger companies, their foreclosure pipeline is beginning to clear out. As that is getting cleared out if you’re in second position you’re going to see some increase loss and that’s what we saw in the second quarter.

Damon Del Monte

Analyst · Keefe, Bruyette & Woods

I guess quickly my last question on the margin you said it’s going to continue to drift lower from the 3.80 level here in the second quarter. Did you say that it would get down to 3.70 or it would be just in the lower 3.70s?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

It will be in the 3.70s. If this helps, 3.80 for the quarter, the month of June was 3.78 so we’d expect to see it in the mid to lower 3.70s by the end of the third quarter. You look again at what happened - look at the swap curve what happened here recently. There’s a big change in rates down, that’s logical it’s going to have an impact on earning asset yields. We expect the margins to come in. I think you recognize there’s not a lot we can do on the funding side so yes, we will be, save a miracle, we will be in the 3.70s in the third quarter.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from David Darst of Guggenheim Securities, LLC.

David Darst

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities, LLC

Could you run through some more details on the CRE pipeline and any color we can derive on the stability of the derivative income from that?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

First of all on the pipeline, as I said earlier, it’s third highest in the last 12 months. It’s slightly better than we were at March and that comes on the back of pretty significant growth in the second quarter. While we’re still seeing a lot of business from competitors and its more stealing market share, our senior lender would tell you now that economic activity is absolutely improving. There’s more new construction, prospects of new construction, office buildings, medical office space to name a few so the new economic activity is improving. Chris mentioned unemployment in Massachusetts at 6% very good, so the economy is reasonably robust in Massachusetts. As far as the stability of the derivatives pipeline, it depends and I hate to say that, but it depends on what borrowers are looking for and what we need to do in terms of swapping the loans back to variable. If it’s five years and in, David, we’re likely not going to swap it. Anything over five with any scale to it and it’s rare that we would go over five without a derivative. We think even though rates continue to go down it’s unwise to go beyond five years without somehow getting that loan to variable and that’s what we use the derivatives for. So, based upon the pipeline, I’d like to think that we will have continued good fee revenue there. Perhaps not at the level we had in the second quarter but hopefully continued good revenue.

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

Just one more thing, this is Chris, the unemployment rate for the Boston/Cambridge/Quincy market is 5.4%. You can argue that if that’s not full employment it’s very near full employment.

David Darst

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities, LLC

I guess you’ve had this dynamic for several years now with your residential mortgage portfolio declining and the growth in HELOC. Are we at a stability point where you think you can maintain or is there more runoff to occur in the residential portfolio?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

There is absolutely room on our balance sheet for our residential portfolio to grow. I think one thing just to be clear, our first position home equity is really residential and maybe we should just call it that. It’s originated differently, it’s not originated through commissioned loan officers. It’s a much lower cost origination with typically lower balance fees and mortgages that are taking advantage of a good rate, they’re trying to get a lower rate.

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

They’re all refis.

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, they’re all refis; there’s no purchase. We look at that really as part of our residential portfolio. The second position is clearly a different business but that said, there is room for more residential on our balance sheet. We’re just not enamored with holding term 30-year product, 20-year product on the balance sheet at these rates. I keep hoping rates will go up and we’ll have an opportunity to hold some residential product but we’re just not enamored at these rates.

David Darst

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities, LLC

How much of this first position product that you’re adding is variable rate?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Most of it is fixed. It’s 10 and 15 year fixed typically.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Collyn Gilbert of Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

Just a question, how are you guys thinking about your own TRUP issuance? Would you consider redeeming that at all or refinancing that at all?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Not at this point, Collyn. We understand that with the new [Basel] rules it’s essentially going to fall into, over a 10-year period, it’s going to fall out from tier 1 into tier 2. We do need tier 2 capital. We like the cost of that capital. It’s a very effective after-tax cost, so at this point we have no plans to call it, but we’ll see how things evolve over time.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

Then just kind of a big picture on how you’re thinking about the balance sheet and sort of funding of future loan growth, should we think about the securities portfolio shrinking and just utilizing sort of the deposit growth to fund that? Or, how should we think about the dynamics of the all in balance sheet?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

I would not think the securities portfolio is going to reduce any further, it’s 10% of assets. We need that and maybe a little higher than that frankly, for collateral purposes for some of our deposit collateral, and repurchase agreements, and home loan bank borrowings, etc. So I wouldn’t expect to see the securities portfolio drop further. It may grow somewhat. So the funding for the loan portfolio is either deposits or borrowings. We happen to think that we should fund our loan growth with core deposits and lay off the borrowing line as much as possible. You may see borrowings tick up short term until we have time to raise deposits if there’s a spurt of loan growth, but strategically, we’ve got a lot of branches in our footprint, we’ve got a lot of distribution. We think we can turn on the deposit engine when we need to. And so we would look over time to do what we’ve done and that is to fund loan growth with core deposits.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

Then just following on that, the great growth that you guys saw this quarter on non-interest bearing deposits, was there anything in particular that was driving that either seasonality or one large relationship?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

No, it’s not a single large relationship. It’s just a commitment both in our consumer and commercial business to go after core deposits. Our commercial business has transitioned from being just a lending business to being a banking business. It’s about getting the whole relationship and our commercial team does a great job. Our branches, our small business officers, are calling on core deposits.

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

This is Chris. Our whole investment in our marketing campaign is really increasing our awareness of Rockland Trust and putting Rockland Trust into sort of the choice set of more consumers. So being in the choice set and then experiencing it we’re able to generate way above population growth numbers. We’d love to continue that growth, it’s a hard slog to grow DDA so we grew a little over 5% on a linked quarter basis and if you look on a year-over-year it’s up 17%. So the point being it’s consistent.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

Then just two credit questions, and I think you guys may have covered it but I just want to confirm. The $19 million that you saw this quarter in new non-performers, obviously $5 million of that or so was related to this fraud issue, you said $4.2 million was on the home equity program, and then what was the remainder that led to that? Was there anything in particular or was there just a lot of little things?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Nothing in particular, you hit the two big ones. It’s actually $6 million -- it's $5.8 on the loan fraud. It was a $5.3 million line and a $500,000 commercial mortgage so $5.8 that’s in, then $4.2 in home equity and the rest is nothing in particular.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

Just one final question, on the fraud relationship how long had that relationship been with the bank?

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

About a year and a quarter, a year and a half, something like that.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Inc

So a fairly new relationship to the bank?

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

Fairly new and interestingly they had been - their business had been in existence for 29 years, they had been at two banks that are large reputable banks before and we actually knew - some of our relationship managers knew of them when they were working at these other banks. This is sort of a known established business.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Analyst for Mark Fitzgibbon of Sandler O’Neill & Partners, LP.

Matthew Kelly

Analyst

This is actually Matt filling in for Mark. A quick question here on home equity, I think it’s 20% of gross loan balances on a combined basis. How high could we see that coming in coming quarters?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Again, we lump the first position home equity and the residential portfolio together so if you look at our loan portfolio, roughly 70% is in commercial and the other 30% is in consumer real estate. There is room for that to grow in the future to be a more meaningful part of the loan portfolio. What I mean by that is, if it’s 30% today maybe it gets to 35% or 40% in a different environment. For the rest of the year we don’t see a lot of growth in the first position home equity portfolio. We certainly don’t see it in the residential portfolio. But where we are right now is that 70/30 split. We’re very comfortable with it. Roughly a third being in the consumer real estate portfolio, we’re fine with that.

Matthew Kelly

Analyst

If you could, I know the monthly margin for June was 3.78, can you share with us the monthly margins for April and May as well?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

I don’t have that with me, Matt, but if you go back, the margin for the first quarter was 3.82. So there wasn’t a lot of compression. It was steady into the second quarter so it didn’t change a whole lot. It wasn’t a big leap downwards, in other words.

Matthew Kelly

Analyst

Finally, I’m sorry I missed this, but just with regards to evaluating your junior liens, how often does that take place?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

Aside from this new study, we rescore all of our consumer real estate portfolio not just the junior liens, but we rescore on a quarterly basis and we typically revalue twice a year. So, the most recent score data is Q2 for credit score. The most recent value data I believe is as of year-end. This new analysis we will now be doing quarterly. I mean, that’s the new guidance from the regulators that came out that you need to continually evaluate what’s happening with the first position that’s held by another bank. So it’s complicated, it takes a lot of work but that’s what we’ve got to do. Our analysis showed that of a $310 million portfolio we only had to put $4.2 in non-accrual. Yes, non-accruals are up but I guess I look at it and feel it’s a pretty small number. It’s about roughly 1.5% we put on non-accrual. They are still performing for us, they’re paying us but the facts are, they’re not paying on the first position or at least they have a measure of delinquency on the first position so it is prudent to put them on non-accrual. So we’ll be doing that every quarter now going forward.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Bryce Rowe of Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.

Bryce Rowe

Analyst · Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc

I wanted to just ask about the incentive accrual reversal. Can you tell us what that was or quantify it for us?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

It was about $700,000 pre-tax.

Bryce Rowe

Analyst · Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc

That would account for both first and second quarter or just first quarter?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

It gets to where the year-to-date needs to be. So yes, it would affect the first quarter. It’s a year-to-date adjustment.

Bryce Rowe

Analyst · Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc

Second question, just on the building cash position on the balance sheet, and I guess your answer to a previous question I assume that we’ll see some of that cash to pull it into the securities portfolio in third and fourth quarter?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

No, not particularly, Bryce. If it is, it will be modest. That cash position there is some volatility on the deposit side right at the end of the quarter in our government banking business. So that will pay down over the quarter and will hopefully get used, much of it, in the loan portfolio. I wouldn’t expect securities to grow a whole lot in the quarter.

Bryce Rowe

Analyst · Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc

How big is that government deposit book now?

Denis Sheahan

Chief Financial Officer

It ranges between $350 and $500 million or so, depending on the time of the quarter. So say, an average of $400 million.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Oddleifson for any closing remarks.

Christopher Oddleifson

President and CEO

Thank you everybody for joining us this morning and we look forward to talking to you again at the post third quarter. Have a good weekend.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded and we thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your line and have a wonderful weekend.