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Insteel Industries, Inc. (IIIN)

Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 17, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to your Insteel Industries’ First Quarter 2013 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call may be recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. H. O. Woltz III, President and CEO. Sir, you may begin.

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Thank you, Saeed. Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Insteel and welcome to our first quarter 2013 conference call, which will be conducted by Mike Gazmarian, our Vice President, CFO and Treasurer, and me. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made in our presentation are considered to be forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. I’ll now turn it over to Mike to review our first quarter financial results, and then I’ll follow up to comment more on market conditions and our business outlook.

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

Thank you, H. As we reported earlier this morning, Insteel posted improved results for the first quarter ended December 29, with net earnings rising to $2.4 million or $0.13 per diluted share, the highest level for Q1 since 2008, prior to the onset of the recessionary conditions in our construction end markets. Our results for the quarter were favorably impacted by widening spreads relative to the depressed levels we have experienced over the past year due to the consumption of higher-cost inventory purchased in prior periods coupled with declining selling prices. Net sales for the first quarter were up 1.3% from the prior year on a 5.5% increase in shipments, partially offset by a 4% reduction in average selling prices. On a sequential basis, net sales were down 12.2% from Q4 on a 12.6% decrease in shipments, reflecting the usual seasonal downturn related to winter weather and the drop-off in construction activity. Average selling prices for Q1 were up 0.5% from the fourth quarter, which marked the first time they have risen sequentially since the fourth quarter of 2012. Gross profit for the first quarter rose to $8.6 million from $4.7 million a year ago, with gross margins rising to 10% in net sales from 5.5% due to the widening in spreads together with higher shipments and lower unit conversion costs. On a sequential basis, gross profit was up $2.7 million from Q4 and gross margins rose 4% due to the increase in spreads, which more than offset higher unit conversion costs and lower shipments resulting from the seasonal downturn in demand. SG&A expense for the first quarter was up $0.3 million from the prior year, primarily due to the relative year-over-year changes in the cash surrender value of life insurance policies and higher compensation expense, partially offset by lower…

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. Our Q1 results reflect stronger market conditions than we had expected going into the quarter. Shipments exceeded our forecast, which favorably impacted revenues and unit conversion costs, as we found it necessary to schedule most plants at higher rates of capacity utilization than originally planned. Spreads between raw material costs and selling values widened due to a more muted price competition during the quarter and the consumption of lower-cost raw material that Mike alluded to in his comments. I should emphasize that the pricing environment continues to be highly competitive. There seems to have been, however, a slight but noticeable reduction in the number of competitive pricing situations raised by our customers. Although it’s too early to consider the uptick in shipments to be a sustainable trend, we can report that through the first half of January, activity has remained at an elevated level relative to prior expectations. Despite the welcome news on first quarter shipments, we expect only a modest increase in shipments for 2013 pending a broader-based economic recovery that would spur more robust job creation and construction activity. We continue to focus on cost reduction opportunities in our operations and additional opportunities to broaden our product offering and enhance our ability to capitalize on improving demand environment. Our ESM expansion projects are proceeding, which entailed the commissioning during this quarter of a new production line at the Texas facility and the startup of a relocated line at the Missouri facility. The new production line that will produce specialty ESM products at the North Carolina plant is now expected to be commissioned late in the third quarter due to delays from our equipment supplier. As we previously indicated, these projects are expected to have a beneficial impact on operating costs, enhance our customer responsiveness, and…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from Tyson Bauer from Kansas City Capital.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

H, you talked about some of the marketplace, the volume growth there. Are you able to really kind of in your opinion break that between the growth in the marketplace as opposed to just the benefit of some of your competitors or the competitive landscape not being quite so cutthroat as we have seen in previous quarters?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Well, as I emphasized, the pricing environment, Tyson, is still highly competitive. I would venture to say that underlying the improvement in our results is increased demand, probably to a greater degree than a lower level of competitive activity.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

Okay. In regards to preliminary budgets that you have seen at the state levels and municipality, are they still being very cautious as we enter into the next 12 months, or you are seeing some renewed activity of getting some projects in the planning stage?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

I think the constrictions at the state level continue to be a concern, although you are reading today about a number of states that are beginning to see positive results of the efficiency in cost curtailment activities that have been taken place over the last year, together with improved tax revenues that are driven by some level of economic recovery. But I would say that trend is good, but in terms of it really generating a lot of definitive kinds of leads and projects right now, I don’t see it.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

Okay. In the fourth quarter, we have seen rebar prices in China go up considerably relative to where they were. Does that have, at least if you isolate that, a benefit for you here domestically?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

No, I think the changes in hot-rolled products in China is really related to the significant increases in iron ore prices that we have seen since the second calendar quarter of 2012. Clearly, as you focus on the markets here, the competitiveness of our products, particularly ESM, is affected by the domestic pricing for rebar. And to the extent that the overwhelming majority of our product is certified under domestic content or Buy America rules, the offshore price is of less dramatic importance to us from a month-to-month point of view.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst

Okay. And just in summary, it does appear that you are pushing us toward favorable comparisons as we go through with the potential for second half being much better here than the first half, depending on how things rollout on the macro side?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Tyson, I’d have to say that’s one interpretation, but we are really still pretty cautious about what’s going on that we operate with minimal backlogs and visibility. And while we are glad to be in the position that we are now, we certainly aren’t taking anything for granted going forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Kelly from Sidoti.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

Had a question on spreads as we kind of move into the rest of fiscal ‘13. You’ve consumed a couple of months of low-cost raw material, and I am assuming you’ve seen a little bit of creep up in your raw material costs from where we were in 4Q. Are you able to price accordingly to maintain spreads at the rate they were in the fiscal first quarter?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Well, I mean, to the extent that we are carrying approximately 3 months of inventory, we know what our cost, the cost of sales are going to be over that amount of volume, Bob. But the volatility certainly hasn’t gone away. It’s been muted in the last 2 or 3 months. But I wouldn’t tell you that we would feel confident in having the ability to pass through a spike in raw material prices should it happen. I don’t expect that, for January or February, that be on a spike in raw material costs, but there is no saying that it won’t happen in March or April. And I don’t feel like we have the pricing flexibility just to pass that through.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

And then as far as your comments in the press release, the housing market recovery perhaps spurring a broader-based recovery in non-res markets you play in, what sort of lag should we expect between housing and non-res? I mean, how do you guys view that lag historically?

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

I don’t know that we could like state a definitive timeframe. I mean, there are just so many other variables involved as well that can impact non-res. I don’t know that we would want to...

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

I think historically you may be looking at 3 or 4 quarters, Bob. But I don’t know that, that would hold true this time around.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

Okay. And then just on cash flow, a really solid start to the year, but a lot of it is working capital that doesn’t come back to you. Why did the inventory drop off so much, and are you not seeing similar demand from --better-than-expected demand that you saw in 1Q spill into 2Q? It just seems like a big inventory drawdown. And then what does that mean for the balance of the year for free cash flow?

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

I think a large part of the inventory dropdown is just related -- is seasonal in nature. When you look at our quarter-end position, it represented slightly under 3 months of shipments, which I guess is -- well, I think we have been above that the past few quarters, but I’d say that’s generally right in the typical range, around 3 months on a forward-looking basis. Going forward, there will likely be a working capital build moving into Q2 and then into Q3 just due to the seasonal pickup in volume, where that would typically result in an increase in receivables and inventories as well and then turn back in the other direction later in the year. But typically in Q1, you see a large drop-off just with the reduction in volume and then the related reduction in receivables inventories.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

Great. And then you talked about CapEx being less than $12 million for 2012 -- I'm sorry, for fiscal ‘13?

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

Right.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

What would -- I mean, you did quite a bit last year. If you were to spend another $8 million or $9 million to get to that $12 million goal, what would it be targeted at?

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

Well, there is some remaining balances related to the ESM expansion. There have been progress payments made with some remaining balance there, and then really just a variety of other projects, primarily our just base maintenance level-type needs that are recurring.

Robert Kelly

Analyst

So maintenance CapEx is $8 million or $9 million a year?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

I think we have said prior that we view base CapEx to be in the $5 million to $6 million range at a maintenance level. And the way we got to $12 million for 2013 is that, in 2012, we expected about $20 million. Between $12 million and $13 million -- $8 million of that was spent in 2012, so the balance is $12 million. And it’s not a goal, necessarily. It’s -- I think we have typically said that it wouldn’t exceed that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Tim Hayes from Davenport & Company.

Timothy Hayes

Analyst

Just a couple of questions. I heard a CapEx number in the sort of $2.4 million range. Was that for the new production lines?

Michael Gazmarian

Analyst

The bulk of the CapEx for the quarter was related to the ESM expansion, you are correct.

Timothy Hayes

Analyst

Okay. And yes, on -- we have been hearing from sort of chatter about the potential wire rod case filed against China. Any thoughts on the likelihood that, that would occur? I guess our concern there is to -- if it would, then you perhaps get a spike in the domestic wire rod prices, and then you had to try to pass that through. Just was curious on your thoughts on that?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Keep it in mind that we really don’t have insight into the details of what’s going through the minds of the rod producers. I would say that the issue has arisen in our planning horizon, and we would expect that, if a case were filed, that it couldn’t be filed before late in the second calendar quarter or early in the third calendar quarter of 2013. And I think that the threshold for reaching an injury determination there is it's probably a long way away from them right now. With that said, the impact of a case on China, particularly a successful case, would be pretty interesting on our industry, because if you look back over time, a spike in wire rod prices hasn’t necessarily been a bad event for our industry if it comes along with tightening availability. So I think it is possible, but I would say it’s less than 50%, and then that the impact, if it were to happen, is it would be interesting.

Timothy Hayes

Analyst

Then my final question. Do you buy any offshore product for the non -- sort of the non-Buy America contracts or business that you have?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

We do, yes.

Timothy Hayes

Analyst

I mean, as a percentage of your purchases, what does offshore represent?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Now, it ranges from 5% to 20%. It’s probably somewhere in the middle right now, 10% to 15%.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Matthew Dodson from Edmunds White Partners.

Matthew Dodson

Analyst

Can you talk about kind of what you are seeing with the MAP-21 and the TIFIA bill that was just passed? The cement guys are really bullish on volume going forward and increasing price. I was hoping to kind of understand better what you are seeing there in Texas and Virginia, and can you kind of shine a little more color on that?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Well, we are certainly aware of it. And I think it has a prospect for improving the level of spending pretty significantly, but to tell you that we can point to specific projects which have grown out of the program would not be correct at this point in time. But we consider it a favorable underlying driver, but I would say that the result is yet to be known.

Matthew Dodson

Analyst

If these projects start in the spring or summer, when would you see those orders matriculate?

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Well, when you say start, if that implies design and engineering, it could be 12 to 18 months later that it translates into demand for our product. And as you know, a lot of these projects also include property acquisition, which can be fraught with all kinds of delays and problems. So I guess it goes back to the shovel-ready concept that we heard so much about a few years ago. There is really -- there is just really not such a thing in our industry, and these timelines can really be lengthy.

Operator

Operator

I am showing no one else in queue at this time.

H.O. Waltz

Analyst

Okay. Well, we appreciate your interest in Insteel, and feel free to call us back for follow-ups if something occurs to you. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This concludes our program. You may all disconnect, and have a wonderful day.