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IBEX Limited (IBEX)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Sep 14, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the ibex Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today’s conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference to your host, Ms. Brinlea Johnson with The Blueshirt Group.

Brinlea Johnson

Analyst

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today. Before we begin, I want to remind you that the matters discussed on today’s call may include forward-looking statements related to our operating performance, financial goals and business outlook, which are based on management’s current beliefs and assumptions. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions as of the date of this call and we undertake no obligation to revise this information, as a result of new developments, which may occur. Forward-looking statements are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expected and described today. For a more detailed description of our risk factors, please review our annual report on Form 20-F filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I’ll turn it over to Bob Dechant, CEO.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Thanks Brinlea, and good afternoon, everyone. I’m incredibly proud and excited to share with you our fiscal 2021 results and outlook for the future. With our 16th consecutive quarter of organic revenue growth, I am pleased to announce that we achieved a record year of revenue, EBITDA and new client wins in both, quantity and in your bookings. And we did this in the face of a once-in-a-century global pandemic. COVID-19 forced companies to accelerate their digital transformation to thrive or survive. As a result, they looked aggressively to key partners to support their digital-first businesses. And I’m proud to say that ibex has won on a big stage with digital-first blue chip businesses, leading new economy companies, as well as hyper-growth, iconic FinTech and HealthTech. We had a record number of new logo wins that more than doubled our previous high for in-year revenue. And once again, we had 100% retention within our top 20 clients, which accounts for more than 90% of our revenues. Overall, we retained 99.5% of our clients on a revenue basis, comparing from FY20. Ibex is winning as a result of the many key attributes, we have built over the last six years. At the forefront is our tech-led solutions in our Wave X platform that drives innovation and performance. Equally important is the culture that we have built, our speed and flexibility, our unique and best client branding and the strength of our leadership. This, as you have heard me say multiple times, is BPO 2.0. It is differentiated. It is disruptive and it is very difficult to replicate. Our results are the proof points. As we walk through our results today, you will see our transformation as a company is clearly working. And while I’m extremely proud of our FY21 results, I…

Dan Bellehsen

Analyst

Thank you, Bob. It’s great to be here. I’ve been passionate about a more concentrated form of investing throughout my career, but joining ibex takes this to a whole different level, and truly a reflection of this, going all in with what I believe is a rare and exceptional opportunity. This business has done nothing but impressed me since my early work in pre-IPO meetings. I thought I could use this brief time to walk you through what excited me about ibex. The following is my personal view and not a reflection of my former employer. I try to understand the business from every angle, the way that a long-term business owner would, speaking to customers, competitors and employees, trying to understand how it delights its customers, competes with other businesses, why it’s grown in the past, what has to happen for it to thrive in the future, who are the people running it, how are they wired? What I found was a strong franchise punching high above its weight. I learned about expanding customer value propositions using technology at its core, leading the Company to now partner with some of the fastest growing and most tech savvy companies on the planet in an incredibly fragmented industry. I saw an unspoken obsession on operations. Perhaps most importantly, I found the tight knit group of managers that have a real hop in their step every day. It’s not often you get to wait patiently to make a high conviction bet like this, after a business has already been stress tested, and still has an attractive opportunity remaining. Typically, the great opportunities are long gone by then. But COVID has offered me exactly that. The business not only continues to remain incredibly resilient throughout the pandemic, given the mission-critical nature of its offerings, it’s actually put up record results with 16 straight quarters of revenue growth and widened its moat during this time. As Bob and Karl will share with you, the business is forced to be unusually capital and operationally intensive during this period, due to COVID requirement. Without these costs, I believe the profitability and cash flow profile would be significantly different than what it is today. And this is on top of double-digit growth and margins last year. As an investor, this type of under-earning and potential inflection always excited me. Now, the best part. The world is truly our oyster, as far as how we allocate capital from here. It’s rare enough to find a high-quality business with this type of growth profile, providing a sea of high-return reinvestment opportunities to widen its moat, yet at the same time, offering an ability to sit back opportunistically with a growing and large net cash balance and a stock, that’s trading at such a wide discount to its intrinsic value. This combination is truly hard to find and what convinced me to go all in. With that, Karl. I’ll turn it to you.

Karl Gabel

Analyst

Thank you, Dan, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining the call today. I’ll start with a review of our full-year 2021 financial results, followed by fourth quarter 2021, and then our fiscal year 2022 guidance. I am happy to report we had exceptional results, ending a breakthrough year. As Bob mentioned, we had a record year of top-line revenue, adjusted EBITDA and continued our impressive addition of new client wins. The combination of digital-first blue chip new [ph] economy and strategic FinTech and HealthTech client awards has more than doubled our in-year bookings over last year. We remain very confident about the trajectory of the business and believe we will deliver strong results for our shareholders. Since our shift to the digital-first marketplace, in fiscal year 2016, the clients we have won now make up more than $230 million or 52% of our current revenue. That’s a five-year compounded annual growth rate of 84%. Our global operational excellence and client-first focus has yielded a 40% annual revenue growth rate over fiscal year 2020 for these clients alone. After 23 new clients won in fiscal year ‘21, 22 launched during the year contributing nearly $30 million of revenue in the year, and on average clients won in the current year typically contribute approximately 2 to 3 times in the subsequent year. In my discussion of financial results, references to revenue are on an IRFS basis while adjusted net income, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted pro forma earnings per share are on a non-GAAP basis. Reconciliations of our IFRS to non-GAAP measures are included in the tables attached to our earnings press release. Full-year revenue increased 9.5% to $443.7 million, compared to prior year. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted income was $23.6 million versus $17 million last year. Pro forma adjusted…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tobey Sommer of Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Jasper Bibb

Analyst

Hey. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Jasper Bibb on for Tobey. My first question was just on the capacity, you’ve been adding in Nearshore recently. What’s been the experience ramping those sites? And is there going to be kind of any associated margin drag in the first half of next year as you start bringing those sites online?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Sure, Jasper. So, this is Bob. Hey, thanks for joining us, and great to hear your voice again. So, look, we’ve been growing proportionately with what we were doing -- what we did late last year and this year, in the first half of this coming year, really in ‘19, ‘20, and ‘21. And we saw no margin degradation as we brought the capacity online. And so, we feel really good about that, that this business, as you saw that we were going into Honduras, with an enabling client at about 400 agents worth of business. So, we feel very good about our trajectory to filling those sites, which is the key or, getting them, full in this social distancing world. We feel very good about that, around our business. Now, when I think about though, the first half with the Delta variant and things like that, there’s always going to be risk on some of the hiring. And clients quite often sometimes want to travel down to Jamaica, as the program gets started, or training get started. And with the variant and some of the travel restrictions, we’ve seen just a little deal slide. And so, kind of the path to revenue is just shifting a little bit. But I think, overall, we feel very good that what we’ve done in ‘19, ‘20, ‘21, will play out for us in ‘22.

Jasper Bibb

Analyst

That makes sense. And then, could you just comment on kind of the big step-down in large account concentration during the fourth quarter, and what was driving that decline? It just seemed like a fairly significant sequential growth.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Yes, sure. Sure is. And so, I guess first, let me just start with the strength outside of those three legacy clients is just off the charts, both with what we’ve closed in the past that’s growing, and then, big wins in the year that puts substantial revenue into our business. Now, I think, we have what I’ll describe as to what I’ll say onetime events that impacted us in let’s say, the second half of FY21. One of our largest clients emerged from bankruptcy with a new CEO that was focused on driving costs out of the business and kind of reinventing themselves. And then, the other one was again one of our top clients, these folks were in the telco world, that was doing a spin out divestiture of their video and streaming business to a PE firm. And when those two events happened, enterprise volumes basically went down fairly sizably, much more than they thought, much more than we had thought. And so -- and interestingly to know, as our market share with those clients, as the revenue has gone down has actually expanded. So, the good news is, as I see it is where that curve is flattened out, because those kind of onetime events has taken place. Now, it’s just kind of the -- kind of what has been the historical trajectory of the telco clients. And I guess, more importantly is, we’ve been able to hit these numbers, absolutely fantastic numbers for the year for Q3 and Q4 in spite of that, which I just look and say that’s really the strength of what we’ve built here and feel proud about that.

Jasper Bibb

Analyst

Yes, got it. So, last question for me, just following up on your prepared remarks. Is there any way to better quantify, how much these kind of remote working costs have been weighing on your operating margins? And what that kind of delta is between where you are now and what kind of earnings potential might be in a normalized environment?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Sure. So, how I would think about this, look, there is obviously operating costs that we’re incurring. Our centers have 50% usable capacity from prior. Now, we as a business are running at about 37%, 38%, 39% work-at-home. So, we’re able to complement some of that lost capacity, significant of that with work-at-home. But the COVID testing, what I’ll call this agent shrinkage from COVID and now the Delta variant impacts your numbers. So, there is a lot on the cost side that are significantly higher, and we’ve outlined several of those. On the other side, there are some advantages. The two biggest P&L gains, I guess, one is, our T&E, not a lot of our people are traveling these days. So, that’s down significantly. And then, our U.S. business, the work-at-home model in the U.S. business has really made a big impact into kind of that margins. And I think we’re going to stay work-at-home for a long time in the U.S. So, I think that’s going to be kind of a go-forward game. I think, when you put all of that -- when you put all of those factors in, Jasper, I think we have clear upside as we look into kind of whenever we get out of this. And I think it’s -- and when that is, I don’t know, none of us know. But we think there is a lot of upside in this business, as we do that, upside in margin and clearly upside on revenue as what we are building to is really another $200 million of once we get past or into a pre-pandemic environment, operating environment, we have a lot of revenue that’s out there with limited CapEx. And so, I think there’ll be a great flow-through there. So, that’s kind of how I think about this.

Jasper Bibb

Analyst

Got it. Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dave Koning of Baird. Your line is open.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Yes. Hey guys. Great job on the year.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Thanks, David.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Yes. And I guess, my first question, it sounds like you’re going to bring on 3,200 workstations in the first half of next year. I think that adds something like 15% to the base. Is the reason revenue growth only -- it’s only going to be 7% to 9%, maybe there’s a little conservatism in there, but also just the geo mix is the yield a little lower. Is that the right way to think about it?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Sure. So, that capacity is coming online and it will -- we’ll be phasing in revenue of that. And so, I think, if you do the math, you have the ability to kind of grow that. Remember, your capacity is about half that, your usable capacity is about half of that. And our work-at-home complement, in the U.S. our work-at-home is 80%. In these other markets, it’s kind of in the 30s, and call it 30%, 35%, 40% work-at-home. And so, you put those two elements in there. And that’s kind of where we’re getting into our top line growth. And I’ll just say for 1 minute, the business we built -- and as you know, we built this business, and it has been performing consistently at a 10% revenue growth. And now, we’re at 15% -- right at that 15% margin threshold, and we’ve continually been improving. And so, I think structurally, this business is built for that. And we’ll continue that out over the next two or three years. When we look though, just with the Delta variant, with potential impact in the supply chain, and the supply chain perhaps of people, supply chain of computers, things like that, and then we’re investing back, now that we will accelerate, and we’re investing back into the business. We’re putting several million dollars into sales and marketing side of the business to continue to drive future growth. And then, we’re putting -- I think we’re putting, several million dollars then into investing in IT systems to let’s say, run our business more efficient and effectively. Put all of those things together, we kind of look and say, hey, let’s be cautiously -- let’s be cautious about our expectations for the year, hence, the 7% to 9% and the EBITDA in the $69 million to $71 million range. I will remind you, Dave, last year, we did the exact same thing. And we started the year at 59 and 61, and the business kept building momentum, in those big potential impacting. We were able to avoid those and operate our business really sound, really no shutdowns, limited shrinkage. And so, we’re able to attain fantastic numbers for the year. Our goal was to do that in ‘22. But it’s -- each day keeps getting harder and harder with the Delta variant.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Yes, got you. Yes. I mean, you had a great year relative expectations, for sure. And maybe another thing, I mean, I thought that’s such an interesting data point that you’re now going to have capacity for about $200 million of revenue without extending the footprint. It always seems to us like, if all you have to do is add people and you’ve got all the capacity in place, you can often get 25%, 30% incremental margins. Is that about the right math? And does that imply over the next few years? If this is the formula, you should have really nice margin trajectory though.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Your thesis is spot on. It really is safe, and that’s how we’re thinking of the business. And so, again, when that happens, who knows? But, look, even without it, this businesses is pointed up into the right, both from a revenue and margin standpoint, and we’re hopeful. And as even Dan highlighted in kind of his thesis of ibex, he sees that, coming in -- really coming in from the outside. And that’s a really exciting potential.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. And maybe just one quick last one, D&A kind of ramped through the year, and I know that’s just a function of CapEx growing and capacity coming on. It was about $7.5 million in Q4. How does that ramp through 2022? I mean, can we leave it around $7.5 million to $8 million a year? How should we think about that?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Hey Karl, I’ll bounce that over to you.

Karl Gabel

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. And Dave, I can follow up with you on that point. But as we’re growing, remember, the D&A has two components. One is, with the PP&E, but you also have the -- under IFRS, you have the lease part of the depreciation that goes through there. So, that’s stuff that I can follow with you. I don’t have an answer for you right now on this call.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Got you. All right. Thanks, guys. Great year.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

I appreciate it. Thanks, Dave, for joining.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar of Citi. Your line is open.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Thank you. Bob, a quick question -- actually, the first question is clarification, I think. When I think of the -- I think you mentioned the percentage of people that are working from home. If all of a sudden tomorrow everything returned to normal and they all could come back in, I guess, the question is, what would your capacity be then, right? Because I think you put a couple of different numbers out there, but I’m not necessarily triangulating to the additional capacity for $200 million.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Sure. So, our capacity today, so, let’s look at what we believe is going to happen post -- when we return to normalcy, okay, kind of a pre-pandemic environment. When that occurs, we are going to still keep significant work-at-home in play. So, the light switch won’t go on and then everything goes fully back into centers. We’ve been with our clients. We talk with our clients. And every one of our clients is committed to keeping some element of work-at-home with us as part of their portfolio. So, today, as Karl touched on it, he said, our current capacity utilization is at 70% -- for the year is at 77%. So, if all you did would just take and moved everything from work-at-home and you’d be at the 77% utilization. However, our clients in the U.S. were going to stay at least 50%, maybe even up to 75% work-at-home going forward. And in the, what I’ll call, the emerging market regions, nearshore, Philippines, I believe this is probably going to be in that 15% range, maybe as much as 20%. So, when you look at that, our utilization, when we can use all of those centers is going to be at that point significantly lower. It’s going to be because we have this work-at-home component. So, you do that math, it’s probably going to be in maybe the 55% to 60% effective utilization of the in-center seats, which gives an enormous flow upside of being able to sell into, seats to sell into. And then, don’t forget, actually that we have the incremental 3,000, 3,200 seats that’s coming off board kind of as we speak right now, that then will each have a trajectory for revenue growth in those that you’ll see full in, certainly in the first in the first half of next year, if not by Q4 of this year. Put all that in, we think we have this couple of million dollars that’s sitting in this footprint?

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

I got it. So, you’re essentially saying that even in a normal situation, work-from-home is a permanent option that many customers want?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

That’s correct. Yes. Why? Because it gives you amazing flex capacity. You can just ramp up PCs. You’re not building brick and mortar time to ramp. And it gives you built-in resiliency for BCP, etcetera, where 18 months ago, everybody got flat -- caught flatfooted, because they had very, very little work-at-home, if any of your enterprise.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Right. I also have a question about sort of the cadence of revenues through the course of ‘22, and you kind of mentioned Q2 onwards is when you expect to see the pickup. So, I guess, part of it is in your comps. But from a visibility perspective, are there any specific things you’re seeing, like particular client ramps, things like that that would affect that also?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

So, we have many of the new logos that we won last year and especially several that were one in the second half of the year or late year, and then in -- that then may have started launching in Q1 are very, very high volume ramps with clients that are just experiencing explosive growth. So, when I look at the business that I think we have structurally built, Ashwin, it is a -- Q2 for us is always a big corner, because of all the retail work, the e-commerce work, the seasonality, for the holiday season, Black Friday, et cetera. But I believe that what we’ve done -- and what we did last year, if we didn’t have those two events, is that the second half the year, once -- as strong as our Q2, and this year, we would have been there, had it not been for kind of the two events that I talked about, structurally, our business is built like that, the pipeline that we’ve built. So, I think, you’re going to see a little bit of an inflection point on our -- call it, our -- what our historical quarterly flows were and what that might look like.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Got it. If I can squeeze the third one in. When I look at your solutions, ibex Connect, ibex Digital, ibex CX, does any of them have higher or lower visibility, perhaps than the others? And the reason I’m asking the question is because of primarily 4Q, the middle of 4Q, you provided full year outlook. Obviously, there was a couple of million dollar delta between your expectations and what you delivered. So, my understanding is this primarily came from the traditional outsourcing business. So, are you seeing this very different trajectory or different visibility as you look across your solutions?

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Sure. And that’s a fantastic question. And I would say, in the Connect part of the business -- and you’re right, some of the gap, large portion of that was attributed to these two kind of one-off one-time events. I think, we have great visibility to the revenue there. And short of those two events, which again are, we’re not even perceived by the clients that we’re dealing with at that time that meets inflection points would occur. So, we have I think repeatable business, very -- month-over-month, quarter-over-quarter with a good track record of seeing where the revenues are going. And as said, our revenue retention with our clients is off the charts, right? We continue to you -- we don’t lose clients here. And as said, our revenue retention is 99.5% from last year. Okay? That’s unheard of in this industry. So, I feel that that engine there is very, very predictable on revenue. Our digital marketing business is, I’d say, a little less predictable. Why? Because you have -- it’s marketing spend, it’s ad campaigns, digital marketing that’s out there that can be slightly based on promotions that certain clients have for the quarter. And so, there is less predictability there. That’s about 15% of our business. But, it’s our high margin business, our highest margin business. So, when I think about those two businesses, I feel good about our overall predictability, because you have the largest part of your business is very predictable.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I’m showing no further questions at this time. I’ll turn the call back over to Bob Dechant for any further remarks.

Bob Dechant

Analyst

Valerie, thank you very much. And again, for everybody, I appreciate everyone staying on the call and your attendance on the call. And we really appreciate your continued confidence in ibex. And we are looking forward to a fantastic FY22. So, with that, thank you so much and everybody have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.