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Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Jun 13, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Shannon and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the H&R Block Fiscal 2017 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. It is now my pleasure to turn today's conference over to Mr. Colby Brown, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Mr. Brown, you may begin your conference.

Colby Brown

Analyst

Thank you, Shannon. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us. On the call today are Bill Cobb, our President and CEO; and Tony Bowen, our CFO. Today, we will discuss our fiscal 2017 results and our thoughts on the next tax season. We have posted today's press release on the Investor Relations website at hrblock.com. Some of the figures that we'll discuss today are presented on a non-GAAP basis. We've reconciled the comparable GAAP and non-GAAP figures in the next -- in the schedules attached to our press release. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I will remind everyone that this call will include forward-looking statements as defined under the securities laws. Such statements are based on current information and management's expectations as of this date and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements involve certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. As a result, our actual outcomes and results could differ materially. You can learn more about these risks in our Form 10-K for fiscal 2016 and our other SEC filings. H&R Block undertakes no obligation to publicly update these risk factors or forward-looking statements. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will have a Q&A session. [Operator Instructions]. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Bill.

William Cobb

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Colby, and good afternoon. We came into this season with a comprehensive and aggressive plan to change our planned trajectory and we delivered. I'm extremely pleased with our performance. We took market share in DIY and improved our assisted client trajectory and as a result, we outperformed the overall market. We accomplished this through promotions that were compelling, a new assisted client experience that resonated well and an enhanced DIY product that made filing easier than ever. And we achieved all of this while delivering outstanding financial results. Our EBITDA increased 11% or $92 million to $904 million. The resulting EBITDA margin of 29.8% represents an over-300 basis point improvement from last year and our earnings per share was the highest in over a decade, increasing 28% to $1.96 per share. I'm proud of what we have achieved which has given us great momentum heading into fiscal 2018. Our planning process is underway and we're laser-focused on our plan for next tax season. So with that brief overview, here's what we'll cover today, first, I'll provide our perspectives on the industry in this unique tax season; next, we'll review our performance; then Tony will review our fiscal year financial results; and finally, I will speak in more detail about the leadership transition announced in May. First, let's start by looking back at tax season 2017. Consistent with the past few years, the season started very slowly. What was different about this season, however, is that the industry never reached its expected growth with an IRS decline in returns of approximately 50 basis points compared to last year. This was unexpected as there have only been 4 times in the past 60-plus years in which overall tax returns declined following the year with employment growth. While we don't yet…

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks, Bill and good afternoon. Today, I'd like to talk about our fiscal 2017 results and how we performed against our expectations. I'll also discuss our approach to capital structure and provide some thoughts around our outlook for fiscal 2018. Let me start with how we performed against the objectives that we outlined prior to the tax season. First, with respect to volume and price in our assisted business, we expected a significant improvement in client losses, along with a flat to slightly lower net average charge. We achieved our plan to change the client trajectory and delivered better-than-expected net average charge growth of approximately 2% due to better discounting discipline and improved franchise pricing. In DIY, we anticipated an increase in client volumes due to H&R Block More Zero promotion and we achieved just that, increasing DIY online clients 6.8% and outpacing the industry. And while we anticipate a decline in our net average charge, it actually came in better than expected due to favorable mix and product attach. From a bottom line perspective, we indicated in December that we anticipated a fiscal year EBITDA margin at the low end of the long term guidance range of 27% to 30%. More recently, we indicated an expected margin of approximately 28%. Given the significant changes we made to our core business this tax season, it is difficult to predict their ultimate impact on our results. That, combined with diligent expense management throughout the fiscal year, especially in the final months of the tax season which is when we see a significant amount of the fiscal year's expenses, helped us achieve a better-than-expected EBITDA margin at 29.8%. I'll provide more details on the drivers of this in a moment. In summary, we achieved or exceeded all of our primary objectives. With…

William Cobb

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, thank you, Tony. I appreciate those kind words and have so enjoyed working with you during my time here. The company is in really good hands with you as a CFO. To recap, we delivered what we promised. We significantly changed the client trajectory. We came into the season with a comprehensive and aggressive plan and we executed. And we accomplished all of this while delivering extremely strong financials. I'm very proud of what we achieved this past season. As you know, I will be leaving the company on July 31. The timing is right given our strong performance this season, the excellent financial results and the outstanding management team we have in place that can lead this great company in the years ahead. As I mentioned before, the 2018 planning process is currently underway and I will see that process through during my remaining time at the company. We have great momentum coming out of fiscal 2017 and I'm genuinely excited about the plans we're developing for the upcoming tax season. The CEO search is in process and the board is considering both internal and external candidates. The board and I have developed a smooth transition plan. And regardless of the timing of a permanent CEO being named, I'm confident the company will continue its positive momentum with Tom Gerke as our leader. Tom has been my right-hand man for the last 6 years. He's a trusted adviser and a key member of my leadership team and has been instrumental in this -- developing our strategy. Tom proudly serves as our General Counsel and Chief Administrative Officer. Additionally, he has prior Fortune 500 CEO experience with Embarq Corporation and is Executive Vice Chairman of CenturyLink. On a personal note, I can truly say it has been an honor and a privilege to lead this great company. Over the past 6 years, we have refocused on our core tax business and built a culture of doing the right thing. And we've adapt to our promise of delivering value for our shareholders by repurchasing over 1/3 of shares outstanding and increasing the dividend 60% during my tenure. H&R Block is a strong company with an experienced, focused management team that I believe will deliver even better results in the future. It has also been my pleasure interacting with and getting to know those of you in the investment community. I truly appreciate your insights and the value of your input during my tenure. H&R Block is a great company and a great investment and I'm proud to be part of its legacy. With that, we're now ready to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Thomas Allen from Morgan Stanley.

Thomas Allen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

So I guess my first question, Bill, it's been fun working with you. Why are you leaving?

William Cobb

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, Tom, as you know, I came out of retirement 6 years ago and Block was not in great shape right then, obviously the fifth CEO in 5 years. I was coming off the Board. And at that time what I wanted to try to turn the company in the right direction and I think that's what we've done. It's been 6 years. This has been a great run. I love this company, but it's just time for me to turn it over. I left the company in good shape financially, et cetera. So it's just the right time for a new CEO to come and take it to the next level.

Thomas Allen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. Well, I wish you the best of luck. And moving on to the numbers. I think the biggest surprise for everyone is likely going to be the margins. So I estimate it's about a $60 million delta between what you had thought after tax season and the actual margins. And so can we just talk about kind of what the makeup of that $60 million delta?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, Tom, this is Tony. Thanks for the question. As I mentioned in my opening comments, there's obviously a bunch of factors that drove the year-over-year performance. And if you look across the P&L, really, every category on the expense side is favorable. It obviously was a little bit more favorable than we even thought. We expected to come in north of 28% and then we ended up coming in closer to 30%, 29.8% from an EBITDA margin perspective. But there was really every category across the P&L from comp and benefits. We knew about the marketing reduction, but the management of our labor during tax season was phenomenal. Really, just management of expenses across the board, when you think about things like T&E, consulting expenses, just really every department in the company just did a phenomenal job this year and really took to heart our goal at the beginning of the year which is we have to be diligent on the expense side to give us flexibility to be aggressive to try to turn around the business and that's exactly what we've done. So we're pleased with the results. It's a little bit better than we expected, but we think it puts us in a really good place in FY '18 and beyond.

Thomas Allen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Great. And then just my last question. In Bill's prepared remarks, you talked about in 2018, you're going to continue to aggressively go after client growth. I mean, I think you guys -- your messaging is that you had a pretty good tax season this year where you were able to increase EBITDA, I think, 11%, but you still had a 3.5% decline in -- or a 2.5% decline in assisted volumes. So how are you thinking -- like is next year going to be a success if -- would a repeat of this year be a success for next year? Or do you really want to start going back to client growth?

William Cobb

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Let me go first, Tom and then, Tony, if you want to add anything. I mean, I think Tony will comment more in December on -- as the team works through their plan for the year. I wouldn't hasten to add again, the industry decline here of really about 200 basis point difference. We were very surprised that the IRS declined 50 basis points. We all anticipated it was going to be 150 up or in that range. So that contributed also, the industry dynamics to the client decline. But I think one of the hardest things in any business is to change the client trajectory and that's what I'm most pleased about. We said coming into the year, for assisted, our goal was to change the client trajectory. We did that. And our goal was in DIY to grow share and we did that. And so I'm not going to comment on what the goals for next year are, but that'll come in December. But what I'm pleased about is we did exactly what we said we would do.

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, the only thing I would add, Bill, is in December, we talked about our expectations for both assisted and DIY. And at that time, we said we expected assisted to decline. Our goal for the year was to change the client trajectory. Obviously, coming off of 2016 where we had significant loss in assisted clients, we knew it would take a couple of years to turn that around. We made significant progress this year. But as I said from a guidance perspective, we didn't expect to basically be positive in assisted. And then you layer on what Bill said about the industry being really slow this year. I think overall, we're pleased with the results. We expect that could get even better next year. But as Bill said, we'll provide more clarity in December.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer.

Scott Schneeberger

Analyst · Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer

Bill, best wishes. The -- I guess, I'm curious for both of you guys, what do you anticipate with opportunity for expense savings going forward since, obviously, you were very effective in trimming this year? And the follow-on on that is what did the -- from the last question, what did the timing of the season allow for you to do at the end of the season to really be, I think, Tony you said, efficient with labor?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer

Yes. As far as expectation, obviously, this year, Scott, was a significant reset for us. If I take us back to what we started last March and April which was looking across the company for ways to reduce expense, give us flexibility to invest in turning the business around, that was really the start of it. And that being said, when you have a year when you take out as much expense as we did, that's obviously not going to recur every year. We do believe that most of the expense savings we took out this year, the vast majority is essentially run rate, so we're going to continue to get the benefit. And we're going to continue to look for opportunities to run more efficient, look for opportunities to reduce expense, but it clearly won't be at the level that we had in FY '17. It's just -- it's not possible. We went after things very aggressively and really did a phenomenal job of managing expenses. As far as the timing, our business is so seasonal. We do about 75% of our revenue in the fourth quarter. We do a little bit of less than 1/2 of our expense comes in the fourth quarter. And our biggest day of the year is April 18 which was the last day of tax season this year. So any time it comes in that quickly, not only from a revenue perspective, but obviously, a lot of our expenses, especially on the compensation side, frankly, I wish we would've done a little bit better job of being able to forecast that. But at the end of the day, we're extremely pleased and we're just pleasantly surprised that we were able to manage the P&L as tightly as we were all season long.

Scott Schneeberger

Analyst · Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer

Great. And then just -- I'm curious. Lessons learned with this first year of the Refund Advance loan. Obviously, it had some benefit to you, particularly given the PATH Act. What are some things, [indiscernible] which can be improved and thoughts for the coming year?

William Cobb

Analyst · Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer

I'll go first and then, Tony, if you want to add anything. And I'm not going to go into specifics. But I think we did learn more about this client. I think we learned some things when it comes to the messaging side that I think we can improve as we go forward and we plan on doing. I think what we're very pleased about is that the pull for the product was very strong. The -- operationally, it worked really well. And this was a really nice year of one program of $700 million and almost 1 million people getting the loan. So I think we're pretty pleased with the start we're off to. And there are some lessons we'll apply around messaging and -- but operationally, it really was smooth. So I think we're very pleased about that. Tony, if there's anything else.

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer

No. I mean, yes. I mean, it worked really well. I think there's always more upside and as our tax grows and as well as our clients see the product, if we decide to do it again for a second year, I think that will give us additional upside. But I think it just takes a little bit of soak time for a product like this to -- for our 70,000 tax professionals to get used to offering it. We had clients saying, wow, this seems too good to be true which it is not. And I think having it for a second year will -- we expect the take rate to go up.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Anj Singh from Crédit Suisse.

Anjaneya Singh

Analyst

And I also wanted to congratulate Bill on the retirement. I wish you my best. So nice -- it's nice to see the good results for the fiscal year. And I think your results were largely above expectations on all metrics. So not to sound nitpicky, but Bill, you've spoken to weaker execution last tax season. I'm curious how you would rank your execution this year in light of [indiscernible] strong performance. Were there any areas that you would have liked to improve on this tax season? And how should we think about your approach in 2018? Would it be right to assume that you guys have now sort of found your rhythm?

William Cobb

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. I think on -- and thank you for your comments. I think -- and Carolyn Roscoe who leads our sales and service team. We instituted a big cultural change in the field around a sales culture and going out and we're a great operational company. We manage -- we do accurate tax returns. We do them efficiently. But bringing on the sales culture, we knew it was going to be a multi-year initiative. I think we've got off to a good start. Carolyn and her team spent a lot of time this time last season just trying to figure this thing out. She's off to a great start this off-season in terms of getting ahead of the curve on sales. So I hope for the sales and service team next year, in year two of the sales culture, if you will, to really do a nice job on that. I think our franchisees had a very good year this year. And as Tony remarked, I think we've got a great culture here of expense savings that are going to recur. So a lot of things are hitting. I think we can always do better certainly on -- in terms of gaining clients and servicing them. So we're a long way from satisfied, but this was important for us to get the trajectory change, get on firm financial footing and be able to grow from here.

Anjaneya Singh

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful color. And then as a follow-up, one for Tony. The question on your margin performance. I guess, how should we be thinking about the sustainability of these in light of them being at the top end of your long term margin goals despite still seeing volume declines? I realize you're not going to give guidance at this juncture, but hoping you can give us any thoughts on whether anything was under-invested in. Did you under-spend anywhere that would cause margins to, say, perhaps revert back to the lower end or mid-end of that range going forward? Or is that range perhaps conservative?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, you're right, we're not going to provide the changing outlook on the guidance range. I would say there's a couple of things that occurred this year that were onetime in nature. Those are fairly minor relative to the performance we had year-over-year, kind of in the $10 million to $15 million range. So there was a little bit of year-over-year headwind, but I think the vast majority are essentially in our baseline. We're still going through our FY '18 planning process. And as we kind of figure out what that looks like, we'll provide more clarity in December. But there was just, I hate to say -- keep saying the exact same thing over and over, but just phenomenal performance across the P&L. And frankly, you assume some things are going to go your way and some things maybe not. And this year, we just, from top to bottom, did a phenomenal job managing it. So we'll provide more clarity in December. But for the most part, this is essentially a new run rate for us from an expense perspective.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research.

Kartik Mehta

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

Bill, I wanted to get your thoughts on why you think the shift from assisted to DIY this year was what it was and so much less than it has been the previous tax season.

William Cobb

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

Well, I think -- Kartik, I think this still has to be played out, but I'll give you my thoughts. I think the reduction in fraudulent returns that was a combination of the PATH Act being delayed and also all the work we've done on the industry really -- I think there were a lot of parts in the returns that were all coming through the digital channel and I think that, that slowdown was a major factor. I think the other thing was, frankly, some of the things that we did and some other independents and other branded assisted players did in terms of free -- our free EZ offering, certainly the Refund Advance, I think, slowed down the shift in that regard. So I think with the combination of good programming, good marketing and also the fraud controls kicking in and really taking a lot of fraudulent returns out of the system.

Kartik Mehta

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

And then, Bill, just staying on the DIY side a little bit. You had a good season this year on the DIY side. Do you think you need to get more aggressive next year to kind of maintain that shared momentum? Or do you think the programs you have in place will allow you to continue to get share?

William Cobb

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

It's a very clever way of asking me what we're going to do next year, Kartik, so I'm -- even on my last earnings call, I'm proud of you. But I think, obviously, we'll talk more about this in December as a company. Look, I'm really pleased with what we did last year. I'm not only pleased with the promotions, the pricing piece, but really Heather Watts and her team did a terrific job on the product. We talked about it in the script, the prior year imports, the increase in retention was really due to client experience enhancements. So I think in a highly competitive category where you have a dominant #1 who's obviously a very formidable competitor, we're pleased to be the clear #2 now. We're pleased with our efforts. We're going to have to do better if -- we all realize that. But again, specifically, we're not going to talk about what we're going to do. But knowing that TurboTax is always going to be formidable and we've got to be on our A game.

Kartik Mehta

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

And then just finally, Bill, you achieved about 2% of pricing this year. Do you think -- as we go forward, does this industry -- will it allow you to continue to get modest pricing like that? Or do you think there's anything changing that would make it difficult to get even that minimal amount of pricing?

William Cobb

Analyst · Kartik Mehta from Northcoast Research

Yes and I'll let Tony weigh in also. But I think, again, the pricing question always comes down to the mix and the mix of low-end offers. This is a very unique industry in the sense of you go from free returns all the way up to multiple thousand dollars’ worth of returns for complex situations. I think, as Tony mentioned, we're very strategic in our pricing. We look at it at a really granular level, geography, client segment and the like. So I think we still believe that we have to be aggressive in marketing. I think free is here to stay. But I think that there are some smart moves that we can make certainly on product attach and other areas that will still enable us to get some yield out of the pricing side. It's always tough. I think it will not be any easier next year. But I feel confident that our overall revenue mix, that there will be some benefit that we'll get, if you will, from the pricing line. It's probably not the right word that we should use, but it's something, obviously, we spend a lot of time on.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie.

Kayvan Rahbar

Analyst · Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie

This is Kayvan Rahbar, filling in for Hamzah. I have a question on capital allocation. Can you just remind us again on what you guys are thinking in regards to your capital allocation, especially in regards to buybacks and then the current leverage on the balance sheet versus your target range?

William Cobb

Analyst · Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie

Yes. So last year, we repurchased about 300 million -- $320 million worth of shares. If you look over the last couple of years, it's north of $2 billion. So obviously, we've been very focused on share repurchase over the last couple of years. We don't provide guidance on specific plans to the upcoming year. But obviously, we're committed to returning capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchase and that will remain constant in the long term as well. As far as from a leverage perspective, we're happy with where the balance sheet sits today. We aren’t planning to issue any additional long term debt at this point. We're pleased -- we think, given the performance we had this year from an EBITDA perspective, it gives us some additional flexibility, but we have no plans of issuing an additional benefit soon.

Kayvan Rahbar

Analyst · Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie

And then, if I could just give one more follow-up question. On the digital side, can you talk about what inning we're in terms of artificial intelligence and other machine learning from a technology side positively impacting your product? Are we beginning in the mills?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie

Yes. I'll let Bill add on. I think we're at the early innings. I know TurboTax has talked about they're using artificial intelligence in their product. I think artificial intelligence just broadly is still in the early innings and obviously has a long way to go. So we're trying to think about ways we can provide the best tax outcome for our customers, in our DIY products. Obviously, all of our competitors are trying to do the same. But specifically, I think we're definitely in the early innings.

William Cobb

Analyst · Hamzah Mazari from Macquarie

Yes. And I think we're very pleased with our partnership with IBM Watson which we have in the assisted channel. I think what it -- the excitement it brought to the retail experience for our clients, what it did for the tax pros, the combination of our really well-trained experienced tax pros, in combination with Watson and it's only going to get better. We're committed to this. Most companies are committed to this in the long term. So I think we see it as a weapon as we go forward to try to get the best outcome for our clients. That's why our marketing line is Get Your Taxes Won and that's what we want to continue to promise to our clients.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Just wanted to get back to the discussion about EBITDA margins again. I'm not sure if it was last December or the December beforehand when you reduced your long term margin target. What would it take for you to see or be comfortable enough to raise that back again either where it was before and I think it was 28% to 32% or some other number? Are there any strategic or secular changes in the business that would prevent you from doing that?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Yes. And I think, Jeff, one of the key drivers is we pull our plan together for this year, what our expectations, not only from an expense perspective, but obviously, revenue and client volume is a key driver in that. We did reduce it to 27% to 30% this last fall. So you're right in this -- for most -- right before the most recent tax season. It was 20% to 32% before that. If you go back to last year's performance, we were slightly below 28%. So we were kind of outside of the range, if you will. In FY '16, I think it was high 27s. That's why I felt it was appropriate to change it to 27% to 30%. And obviously, we did better than we thought we were going to do this year. But as far as longer term, I mean, it's really going to be driven by client volume and then just identifying additional opportunities to reduce spend to become more efficient and we'll try to provide additional clarity to that question in December.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Okay, fair enough. And I missed some of the beginning comments when you talked about the Refund Advance program. Did the costs from your perspective -- I think you had guided initially to $32 to $36 per loan. Did it come in line with that range?

Tony Bowen

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

It did. We ended up doing less than we originally thought, though. Based on the amount of capacity that we had, we did about $700 million in loans. And I think that was just year 1 of the program, it was difficult to predict the ultimate volume. And that was a benefit to us from an EBITDA perspective. Obviously, that was an expense we didn't have to pay. But yet, we still drove in a lot of clients and overall, really successful program for us. So that was part of the benefit, if you will, from an EBITDA margin perspective, but still got a lot of the benefit on the client side as far as offering a valuable product that drove in volume in their offices.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Great. And just a quick follow-up, did you talk at all about what type of clients took this? Were these new clients, existing clients, what kind of combination?

William Cobb

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Took the Refund Advance?

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Yes, please.

William Cobb

Analyst · Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets

Yes. This is our strongest new client performance in a lot of years and I think what we're especially pleased by was the amount of EITC returns we did which has been a problem area for us in the last few years and that we were able to regain our footing with EITC clients. So it was the early-season client, obviously, that's when we had it out there, but it was a combination of new clients and EITC clients. And as I said earlier, our retention rates improved by almost 2 points on the assisted side. So that was a help, too.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Millman from Millman Research.

Michael Millman

Analyst · Michael Millman from Millman Research

So following up on a theme here is this year's fiscal '17 was helped by, as you pointed out, very heavy promotions with the cost of that basically seems offset by cost savings. So related to that, typically, you see diminishing returns from promotions as they continue. So kind of interested in whether you expect additional promotions. And if so how are you really likely to fund it? And secondly, I mean, this is probably going to sound kind of negative, but I kind of wonder why, with the upward momentum that you're leaving before the end of your contract, just when you may be breaking through the positive territory, I'm kind of curious as to why also Greg and Jason have left recently.

William Cobb

Analyst · Michael Millman from Millman Research

Yes. So let me start with the -- on the promotional side. I think, Mike, I think your comment is very fair that the task with promotions is always to either introduce new ones or certainly refresh the ones that you used. And that -- we're well aware of the challenges associated with that. And our plans are underway and we're very mindful of that. But our goal every tax season is to be impactful and that will be the same for this year. I'm not going to comment whether there are going to be new ones or not. We'll talk more about that, as Tony indicated a couple of times, more in December. So that's with regard to that. With regard to me, I think the contract was really just an employment agreement that really was about -- to me, it's kind of one of those things you put in the drawer. I came here six years ago when the company really was kind of going sideways and really needed, I think, a jolt of leadership and came out of retirement at that time as I've been with eBay for a number of years. And I fell in love with the company. I thought it was great. I really enjoyed the job, enjoyed the associates, enjoyed the tax pros, all the elements of it. And -- but it's a grind. It's a lot of work. So I just thought it was time to leave it. There was going to be a certain point where it was time to go. My youngest just graduated from high school. He's headed off to Notre Dame and it was just one of those -- it was a very personal decision for me. But I will -- also wanted -- I was not going…

Operator

Operator

As there are no further questions at this time, I would return the call to Mr. Colby Brown.

Colby Brown

Analyst

Okay. Thanks again, everyone, for joining us. This concludes today's call.